John Bolton’s Best Friend in Senate Will be Declared Loser to Al Franken

…probably true, but let’s not pretend this potty-mouthed carpetbagger with even less experience than Caroline Kennedy is a good deal for MN or for Dems. He’s in the finest tradition of the O: lots of $$, no resume’.

I wouldn’t let my dog hang out with Franken. He is a dirty gross man. I am ashamed of the Democrats. Thank
goodness I voted Republican this year.

As a Minnesotan, I concur. This Obama-phile was all for the Iraq war as a gift to Israel, until it became obvious it wasn’t going to be cheap or easy. Then he jumped on the anti-war bandwagon to setup this Senate run.
He is a nasty , unpleasant littel ogre. He thinks he’s going to be Wellstone jr., but he doesn’t even have what little charm the real Wellstone had, and none of the integrity.

Al’s ok. Read some of his books– he sees right and wrong, unlike the morally ambiguous Mr. Obama. I think he is probably considerably brighter than Ms. Kennedy and certainly communicates better. But you are right too complain about a thin resume. But keep in mind that some truly evil tyrants had nice, thick resumes.

The bottom line? It’s new blood. I wish my two senators could be voted out of office and replaced with new blood.

Hey, if Al turns out to be a bad senator you can always vote him out in six years.

Remember he’s good enough, he’s smart enough and doggone it people like him.

Jeez, you Minnesotans voted in Jesse Ventura as governor!

Btw, I live in Massachusetts. ‘Nuff said.

AL FRANKEN* will always have an asterick next to his name as far as I am concerned. Like Barry Bonds* he accomplished something with an unfair advantage. Franken* stole the election and hopefully Coleman will prevail in court. All of the irregularities, miscounts, double counts shows the recount was skewed in Franken’s* favor. In the year of the Democrats Franken* should have shown winning percentages similar to Obama’s and he didn’t. One bright side is KARMA seems to move much quicker around Obama, and FRANKEN* undoubtly will suffer his. Just for the record FRANKEN* is a louse, a thief, and a poor excuse for a politician and he is the JOKE!

There are no specific types of experiences that make for a good or a bad senator. It is BS to say that either Franken or Kennedy are not qualified.

Many Senators have historically entered with absolutely no government experience and only business experience. Why would business experience be any better than fund raising, or education, or entertainment experience?

In my books the country would be better served with more politicians with a wider variety of life experience. At the end of the day, I would like to see smart and successful people with a drive to move the country forward in the job. No matter where they come from.

thank you….well said. If anything, a person should have leadership ability and some type of business experience. And character…well that goes without saying.

At the risk of being redundant, I think candidates for higher office (Mayor, Gov, Sen, Rep, POTUS) should have had a previous experience in elective office. Serving the electorate, governing, public life and public service is/are not the same as leadership, corporate management, popularity or authorship.
And to be honest (and give *Franken a chance), Jesse Ventura, the Gov/former wrestler in MN, ran a good ship. Admittedly, some of his stuff was wacko. but generally he ran a good ship, hired competent people.
BTW, there were some really good possibilities among elected Dem women for the seat *Franken won.

Term limits for both houses of Congress.

Does this mean finally the contribution calls will stop?

Congrats Al. Good to have another Clinton Democrat in the Senate.

Steve, make sure you take a trip down the lakefront through Vevey, Montreux….just GORGEOUS. Nice pastries in Lausanne, too.

I don’t want to rain on your parade, but Al has not yet won anything. Phase three of the vote counting will start when Colemen files suit to have a judicial panel rule on which ballots to toss out. The first to go will probably be the 133 votes found in one precinct which now has 133 more votes than it has people that voted! So the winner will not be known for several more weeks. Too bad we can’t have both of them tossed out and have a new election.

Al Franken is a nasty, gross person, but MN seems to like that type.(Jesse Ventura).

Since when does a candidate come from behind 250 votes to ahead 250 votes on a recount? Since when is it possible to have more votes counted than there are people registered to vote? This has happened in at least 2 Minnesota counties. I call it thievery to a maximum degree. And he is getting away with it because of the dishonest Dems in power. Shame on you, Minnesotans. I always thought better of you.

“The recount resulted in a number of anomalies that cast serious doubt on Franken’s victory. Among these are:

* 133 missing ballots from a heavily Democratic Minneapolis precinct that were nevertheless included in the recount.

* Other ballots that mysteriously appeared after election night in a heavily Democratic suburban St. Paul precinct that were also included in the recount.

* 130 absentee ballots that appear to have been double-counted in Franken’s favor.

* And 650 additional improperly rejected absentee ballots identified by the Coleman campaign that were excluded in the recount.

The issues raised by the Coleman campaign are legitimate. Resolving them has been expressly reserved by the board and the state Supreme Court for the election contest – the final stage of Minnesota’s election process. They do not constitute the complaints of a sore loser.”

Well, the new Senate may be far from ideal, but maybe we will get more laughs out of it anyway.

just to add here congress refused burris’s credentials this morning. hey congress, how about getting about the people’s work instead of making asxes out of yourselves. we didn’t elect you to play games. just seat the guy already.

You are wrong. There is no precinct where there were 133 more votes than voters.

Stodgie…They won’t let Burris take his seat, but they will let a FRAUD usurp the White House. It just gets sillier, more random, and insane daily.

You quoted a New York Post editorial. Not a news article- an editorial. The editorial itself simply quotes Coleman’s campaign. Further, all of these points are demonstrably false.

now we a comedian in the senate, wonderful! al-frankin bought his seat by millions sent to him after the electio was over. With the help of many lawyers he bought, he counted, re-counted, and recounted again and again till he got the result he wanted. If the elctio was today, he would loose with bif margin.

now we a comedian in the senate, wonderful! al-frankin bought his seat by millions sent to him after the electio was over. With the help of many lawyers he bought, he counted, re-counted, and recounted again and again till he got the result he wanted. If the elctio was today, he would loose with big margin.

I detest Franken, but when the alternative is Norm Coleman, I’ll take him.
Also, as re- vote theft, check this out: (this is a link from Cannonfire.blogspot.com, mid-November) http://www.opednews.com/articles/Evidence-of-Republican-Fra-by-E-Nelson-081110-788.html

WEll, I’m sorry to see Al Franken win this seat I don’t think he’s senator material, the guy is a comic for Pete sake. But if Norm Coleman is John Bolton’s best friend, I don’t think the people of MN need that either.

Too bad all the votes didn’t get counted down there in FL in 2000 when the candidates were only divided by a few hundred votes. Bush got away with that because of the dishonest Republicans who certified an illegitimate vote count and handed down a political opinion in Bush v. Gore.

This is the precedent Dubya set for the country. Not a pretty thing when the shoe is on the other foot.

Colorado’s appointed senator who will take Salazar’s seat had never run for or held any public office. It’s the new Democrats.

As a resident of a state who voted in Jesse Ventura for governor and Norm Coleman a refugee of NY and Woodstock how can you complain about Franken. He is obliviously intelligent, an early supporter of Hillary, a true liberal in the FDR sense, a political commentator and author and much more qualified for office than either Obama or Carolyn Kennedy. Franken traveled to Iraq every Christmas to entertain and support the troops. He has been antiwar since before Kerry ran for president. Your criticism of him is far off target.

I like Al Franken. He is a very intelligent reasoned man, who actually studied to be an actuary. He’s a genius with numbers. Unfortunately, my support for him died when he supported the Obama.

But its very interesting to me how 2 people with no experience in government whatsoever can be considered valid senators and 1 because of controversy that he is tangentially related is not.

Well if your point of view were the norm and taken to its logical conclusion, then any 30 year old who hiked across the country and did odd jobs during the process should become senator or president.

Well, you know that your opinion is worth zero, right?
Going by your “theory”, take a look at North Carolina. The people of that state dumped GOPer Elizabeth Dole for Dem Kay Hagan by a very healthy margin (more than 8 percentage points; a Libertarian candidate took 3% of the vote). By whole numbers, Hagan beat Dole by more than 360,000 votes, out of more than 4,270,000 votes cast. Looking at the Presidential contest, Obama beat McCain by less than one-third of a percent of the total vote, and Bob Barr and write-in votes amounted to less than 1 percent of the total vote. Looking at the whole numbers, Obama got 2,142,651 votes compared to McCain’s 2,128,474 (Barr and the write-ins received a grand total of 39,664 votes). Perhaps you see where this is going. There were 38,819 fewer votes cast in the Senate race, but even if Dole had won all of those votes plus the votes that went to the Libertarian candidate, she would have still been dumped from the Senate and her opponent would still have achieved an outright majority (by more than 187,000 votes!), yet Obama would still have just squeaked by with a plurality of 0.32%.
Did Obama help Hagan? Perhaps, but I really don’t think so. It’s possible, of course, but Hagan, in her Senate race, won MORE votes than Obama did (107,000+ more), while fewer people voted in the Senate race (38,819 fewer). I think that the Dems would’ve won the NC Senate seat regardless of who was at the top of the Democratic ticket (OTOH, if all the Barr voters had voted for McCain, McCain would’ve won the state–even 3/5 of the Barr voters going for McCain would’ve flipped the state’s electoral votes in McCain’s favor).

That’s okay. Obama will get the Senator he wants. He’s gotten everything else.

But it’s odd. No one, even if this guy Burris is a jerk, is crying racism now. I wonder why?

Just to contrast the lack of any real “Obama factor”, my own state–Alabama–saw Obama receive 813,479 votes while Democrat Vivian Figures (an African-American woman) only received 752,391 votes. Just under 40,000 more people voted in the Presidential contest than in the Senate race, but Figures received 61,000 fewer votes than Obama–even if all those who didn’t vote in the Senate race HAD voted, and voted for Figures and we add in the 2400+ write-in votes for the Senate race, she would have still received 19,000 fewer votes than Obama. Where did all those Obama votes go? (GOP incumbent Sen Jeff Sessions beat McCain’s vote total by more than 39,000 votes, but there were also nearly 20,000 write-in votes cast for President. Could some of those “liberal” Obama-for-Prez voters have voted for the conservative Sessions? That’s the only thing I can think of because it’s the only thing that makes any sense after looking at the numbers. Of course, this state also showed that a good number of Democrats opposed same-sex marriage, or any state-approved equivalent, since more people voted for an amendment to ban same-sex marriage than voted for the GOP governor. GOP Bob Riley got less than 60% of the total vote; the same-sex marriage ban passed with 80% of the total vote.)

With all due respect:
My opinion is worth something to me.

Rather than state information that is not relevant (North Carolina) look at the Minnesota general election numbers (fact):

Barack Obama won 54% of the votes to John McCain’s 43% (fact).
Most voters vote along party lines and with this simple math Al Franken* should have won by a margin not to be contested. That did not happen (fact). Coleman initially won, and the recount went to Franken* by 225 votes (fact).

That is why I believe the recount was stolen by the democrats for Franken*(opinion)

How does the saying go

“Your welcome to your own opinion, but not your own facts”

Own it

Franken was never for Obama. Neither was he for the Iraq War.
Quite the opposite on both counts.

But your remarks about Israel and about the great Paul
Wellstone, show the ugly place you’re coming from.

From C.P. Snow:

“Comment is free but facts are sacred.”