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Avi Shlaim is Israel’s preeminent historian and a few years ago published a tour de force history of Israel titled, The Iron Wall.

Shlaim writes that he now believes Israel is a “rogue state.”

How Israel brought Gaza to the brink of humanitarian catastrophe

Oxford professor of international relations Avi Shlaim served in the Israeli army and has never questioned the state’s legitimacy. But its merciless assault on Gaza has led him to devastating conclusions

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/07/gaza-israel-palestine

The truth is, that Israeli policies create more dangers for Israel; indiscriminately slaughtering civilians is a war crime. Many Israelis reject these polices, even those who have served in the IDF. Many Israelis now refuse to serve, because of it.

Avi Shlaim is Israel’s preeminent historian and a few years ago published a tour de force history of Israel titled, The Iron Wall.

Shlaim writes that he now believes Israel is a “rogue state.”

How Israel brought Gaza to the brink of humanitarian catastrophe

Oxford professor of international relations Avi Shlaim served in the Israeli army and has never questioned the state’s legitimacy. But its merciless assault on Gaza has led him to devastating conclusions

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/07/gaza-israel-palestine

Just imagine if people can not distinguish the spelling of our names, such a simple task, how would you expect them to know any distinction of what are the issues in this serious conflict?

If people hate Jews, Palestinians, blacks, Indians and other subjugated people, it certainly affect opinions.. However admitting or denying you hate anyone will not help make the situation better. It is easy for people to explain other people’s point of view by accusing them of hating the group they are criticizing. I do not fall for this argument because it is called clouding your mind. As I said, I will say it as I see it.. I see human suffering, I see walled in human beings without adequate water, fuel, shelter (their dwelling bombed out), no food, no medicine and hating them makes another human being inhuman. Meanwhile those inflicting this human suffering have to be called upon to stop and calling them to stop is not equivalent to hating them.. Even if they become so arrogant and belligerent, other people still continue to find excuses for their inhuman treatment of others.. It so happen that other people like me see it as it is and will say it.. Other people choose to scream at us as haters for our opinions…I came here to state my own opinion and I expect and I assume differences in opinion. I respect differences in opinion as Larry Johnson keeps reminding people who post their comments here. You can’t change mine and I won’t change other people’s opinion either.

Elsie and not Elise

Do you have evidence otherwise?

and

“I believe THAT is what you are confusing with support of Hamas.”

No…people keep stating that others support Hamas when they express concern for Palestinians because their bigoted minds cannot make a distinction. It isn’t their confusion, its their bias. There’s a difference and one is more willful and immoral than the other.
Confusion I forgive…

The Bloodbath In Gaza

Separating the Truth from the Hype

By Mike Whitney

It wouldn’t make a bit of difference if Hamas surrendered tomorrow and handed-over all its weapons to Israel, because the problem isn’t Hamas; it’s Zionism, the deeply-flawed ideology which leads to bombing children in their homes while clinging to victim-hood. Ideas have consequences. Gaza proves it.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21663.htm

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U.N. official says Gaza school was clearly marked:

A U.N. official in Gaza said a school where dozens of Palestinians were killed by tank shells on Tuesday was clearly marked with a U.N. flag and its location had been reported to Israeli authorities.
http://tinyurl.com/86rhca

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Medics ‘unable to reach Gaza wounded’:

“Wounded people have died while waiting for Palestinian Red Crescent ambulances. “In some other cases, ambulances cannot reach the wounded at all because of the ongoing fighting and shelling.” At least two hospitals were out of fuel for their generators, the only source of power available.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24878578-5005961,00.html

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At Gaza Hospital, Chaos and Desperation:

Doctors are working day and night on floors soaked with blood to help the rapidly mounting numbers of wounded. In the halls and corridors, screams and uncontrolled sobbing, along with the sounds of bombs and mortars, punctuate conversations.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/05/AR2009010503053_pf.html

And now you are bringing Guatemala into the mix – and telling me I resort to red herrings.

Additionally you are requiring history to stop – where- 1954? 1963? I still don’t see where the CIA created the age old resentments between the Alawi and the Sunni. The Islamic world’s history doesn’t stop at any arbitrary point that is convenient to bloggers.

I managed to reply to you without impugning your integrity. You tell me I “look like a mockery” when you reference allegations.

Where did she mention 13th Century? or anything of the sort?

last I read she said read some history….she didn’t say go back to the dawn of time.

Allegations of these coups include:
1. CIA helped to install Baath Party in 1963
2. CIA helped topple Mossadegh in Iran 1953 to restore a monarchy.
3. Sept 11 1973, CIA helps topple Salvador Allende
4. 1954 coup in Guatemala

now I say Allegations, because I haven’t gone through the all the documents that Michael Hayden released over a year ago, aka the dirty laundry.

But she is making the point that these little despots have backing that comes right back to D.C.

Now, if you want to counter that, fine. But jumping back to the 13th Century only makes you look like a mockery. It would serve you better if you’d just refute what she said.

That is…if you are capable of doing any research and sticking to the facts.

It seems you are more interested in your right to have your version of “fatass”…truly a sign of your integrity.

it is a non-issue and no biggie…

signed,
fat ass

(my dear loves my ass and she squeezes it often)

They can’t handle your frustration because it isn’t in line with their pathology.

In fact, he trivializes the Holocaust by responding to it this way.
He fails to see that a very small man with big ambitions riled a nation to war against Jews by telling the Germans that the Jews were out to kill them, and therefore were justified in any response they could muster.

He doesn’t realize that a people who have been beaten down will turn to whatever tactics they must to counter their perceived or real oppressors.

He doesn’t care if Palestinians are treated inhumanely so long as Israel is right.

So instead of dealing with your points, he’ll swash red herrings on the path about with:

“if you don’t like jews, have the guts to say so”…and the like

fortunately for you, some of us are capable of keeping two seemingly different thoughts in one head.
(the thought…I love people on both sides and both sides deserve to be treated with humanity first)

But…don’t let it rattle ya, call it as you see it.

Then she can provide me the documentation for how the CIA planted bad blood between the Alawi Muslims and the Sunni – in the 13th century.