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	<title>Comments on: Open Mouth, Insert Foot &#8211; Joe Biden is Free at last</title>
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		<title>By: Gary McGowan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary McGowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Butch, (Sorry, the way these comments are nested I failed to notice you seem to be addressing my comment.)

It&#039;s not irritating or annoying TO ME that you point out the facts of American neocon involvement. However, it&#039;s light years &lt;em&gt;beyond&lt;/em&gt; annoying that Americans have somehow come to allow it. One aspect of this complex mess is my hope that if enough Americans learn more, they won&#039;t allow it... a perhaps gratingly simplistic statement.

Anyway, it&#039;s a fair question you asked, because millions of Americans are so lightly informed. I can&#039;t imagine getting anywhere here with a comment including references to Jabotinsky, the Sykes-Picot agreement, or this being an Anglo-Saudi operation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Butch, (Sorry, the way these comments are nested I failed to notice you seem to be addressing my comment.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not irritating or annoying TO ME that you point out the facts of American neocon involvement. However, it&#8217;s light years <em>beyond</em> annoying that Americans have somehow come to allow it. One aspect of this complex mess is my hope that if enough Americans learn more, they won&#8217;t allow it&#8230; a perhaps gratingly simplistic statement.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s a fair question you asked, because millions of Americans are so lightly informed. I can&#8217;t imagine getting anywhere here with a comment including references to Jabotinsky, the Sykes-Picot agreement, or this being an Anglo-Saudi operation.</p>
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		<title>By: ipotter</title>
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		<dc:creator>ipotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!  Didn&#039;t think anyone could take that title from Quayle.  Considering the considerable dumbing down of America, do wonder how low the future IQs will go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!  Didn&#8217;t think anyone could take that title from Quayle.  Considering the considerable dumbing down of America, do wonder how low the future IQs will go.</p>
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		<title>By: hedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>hedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 110% Snickers I tried in Ma to get Frank and Kerry out but the people here are so dense. they can&#039;t see these people for what they are and until they do we are in trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 110% Snickers I tried in Ma to get Frank and Kerry out but the people here are so dense. they can&#8217;t see these people for what they are and until they do we are in trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Masha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Masha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  It&#039;s going to be very interesting.  Biden&#039;s gaffes could become very &quot;convenient&quot; for BO.  He might actually use his partner&#039;s &quot;gift&quot;  to test some of the unpopular ideas he wants to ram down our throats like the overhaul of SS and Medicare.  Biden can always be made to look like a fool.   Let&#039;s keep an eye on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  It&#8217;s going to be very interesting.  Biden&#8217;s gaffes could become very &#8220;convenient&#8221; for BO.  He might actually use his partner&#8217;s &#8220;gift&#8221;  to test some of the unpopular ideas he wants to ram down our throats like the overhaul of SS and Medicare.  Biden can always be made to look like a fool.   Let&#8217;s keep an eye on him.</p>
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		<title>By: Tricia Spiegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tricia Spiegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the implications for flip-flopping and contradicting each other were not so scary, it would be really funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the implications for flip-flopping and contradicting each other were not so scary, it would be really funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Butch Zero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Butch Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to wonder if the person directing Israel&#039;s war effort is even aware of its true position, how much trouble they are in, world wide. Even from a military standpoint.

He or she seems to be making decisions without a true or realistic anchor, sort of like trying to direct a ship without a compass, deliberately obtuse to the truth.

Or maybe the truth is too difficult to acknowledge and incorporate, (though denial is not desirable in a time of war, in the heat of battle).  

And for a nation that in part seems to predicate it&#039;s ability to thrive on PR, a nation who seems to think its war is PR, and PR control, I find that fact ironic. 

(Or given Pat Lang&#039;s essay, yesterday, not surprising). 

Seems as if Israel is fighting a PR war against the world public -- strange way to direct severely limited Israeli resources,  at a false flag.

BTW, no nation is ever faultless, or perfect, esp. in a time of war. Part of winning is having those around you who will speak truth to power. Denial is fatal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder if the person directing Israel&#8217;s war effort is even aware of its true position, how much trouble they are in, world wide. Even from a military standpoint.</p>
<p>He or she seems to be making decisions without a true or realistic anchor, sort of like trying to direct a ship without a compass, deliberately obtuse to the truth.</p>
<p>Or maybe the truth is too difficult to acknowledge and incorporate, (though denial is not desirable in a time of war, in the heat of battle).  </p>
<p>And for a nation that in part seems to predicate it&#8217;s ability to thrive on PR, a nation who seems to think its war is PR, and PR control, I find that fact ironic. </p>
<p>(Or given Pat Lang&#8217;s essay, yesterday, not surprising). </p>
<p>Seems as if Israel is fighting a PR war against the world public &#8212; strange way to direct severely limited Israeli resources,  at a false flag.</p>
<p>BTW, no nation is ever faultless, or perfect, esp. in a time of war. Part of winning is having those around you who will speak truth to power. Denial is fatal.</p>
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		<title>By: kgirl1028</title>
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		<dc:creator>kgirl1028</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahhhh universal justice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahhhh universal justice</p>
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		<title>By: Butch Zero</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/10202/open-mouth-insert-foot-joe-biden-is-free-at-last/#comment-1109471</link>
		<dc:creator>Butch Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are aware of the American neocon posiiton on the ME and how it relates to the American military actions, there, including Iraq, and Afghanistan? 

(Think Richard Perle, say, or Henry Kissinger). 

AS well as admisntration aid to Israel? 

Many of Cheney&#039;s staff also have questionable relationships to the Israeli government, think Doug Feith. 

I understand this subject is grating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are aware of the American neocon posiiton on the ME and how it relates to the American military actions, there, including Iraq, and Afghanistan? </p>
<p>(Think Richard Perle, say, or Henry Kissinger). </p>
<p>AS well as admisntration aid to Israel? </p>
<p>Many of Cheney&#8217;s staff also have questionable relationships to the Israeli government, think Doug Feith. </p>
<p>I understand this subject is grating.</p>
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		<title>By: Alibe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alibe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are correct.  This is not war.  This is the equivalent of The Germans clearing out the Warsaw Ghetto.  Gaza has been a ghetto.  Israel has treated the people of gaza as less than human.  They have tried to control every aspect of life in Gaza.  Just as the Nazis tried to control the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto, the Israelis have morphed into the Nazis and now use the same thinking the Nazis did.  It is so ironic. To become what you have hated the most...but not that unusual. (The Democrats have morphed into the Repubicans) We have a corrupt facist President elect who is like the reincarnation of Bush/Cheney.  He has taken over the Democratic Party and destroyed its principles and will do the same with the country. BHO...scary stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct.  This is not war.  This is the equivalent of The Germans clearing out the Warsaw Ghetto.  Gaza has been a ghetto.  Israel has treated the people of gaza as less than human.  They have tried to control every aspect of life in Gaza.  Just as the Nazis tried to control the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto, the Israelis have morphed into the Nazis and now use the same thinking the Nazis did.  It is so ironic. To become what you have hated the most&#8230;but not that unusual. (The Democrats have morphed into the Repubicans) We have a corrupt facist President elect who is like the reincarnation of Bush/Cheney.  He has taken over the Democratic Party and destroyed its principles and will do the same with the country. BHO&#8230;scary stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Gary McGowan</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/10202/open-mouth-insert-foot-joe-biden-is-free-at-last/#comment-1109467</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary McGowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And yes, I’m sure the casualties are grisly. That’s the problem with war.&quot;

This is not a war. This is an inhuman occupation with massacre splattered on as a sort of macabre icing, with fellow human beings being subjected to a hell beyond most of our ability to comprehend.

For a stunning film on the situation in Palestine, see this on-line film (roughly 90 minutes long):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2451908450811690589&amp;hl=en</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And yes, I’m sure the casualties are grisly. That’s the problem with war.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is not a war. This is an inhuman occupation with massacre splattered on as a sort of macabre icing, with fellow human beings being subjected to a hell beyond most of our ability to comprehend.</p>
<p>For a stunning film on the situation in Palestine, see this on-line film (roughly 90 minutes long):</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2451908450811690589&#038;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2451908450811690589&#038;hl=en</a></p>
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		<title>By: Phishmelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phishmelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if no one reports it, did it still happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if no one reports it, did it still happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Sassy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe will extract part of our revenge on the media!
When he really gets going and showing his pearly whites, their eyes start glazing over! 
I hope he holds a press conference as often as possible!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe will extract part of our revenge on the media!<br />
When he really gets going and showing his pearly whites, their eyes start glazing over!<br />
I hope he holds a press conference as often as possible!</p>
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		<title>By: ACPD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Biden is a terribly misunderstood individual, but that is intentional.  Like BO he is not what he appears to be. He is, like BO, charming and has a long record of being every one&#039;s friend.  But under all that hale-fellow-well-meant affect is a very sharp and dangerous guy--also like BO.  

Remember Clarence Thomas would not be on the Supreme Court, if it weren&#039;t for Biden&#039;s screwing up the  Senate hearings.  It was Biden who called off the hearings before other women, who were prepared to corroborate Anita Hill&#039;s testimony, could speak.  Read &lt;em&gt;Strange Justice&lt;/em&gt; for the details.

Also, there is a reason so many corporations and especially credit card companies choose DE as their corporate headquarters.  They are protected in DE.  It is a state that has a long history of supporting anything corporate over the welfare of consumers and employees.  And yet, after years of supporting this system in DE and these big money companies, Biden ran on the imagine of being a &quot;regular Joe.&quot;  There is nothing about him that is middle-class or ever was.  (Even his family was very wealthy before his father lost their money.)

DE is one of the most corrupt states in the country.  I have family that used to live there.  Nothing gets done except for lots of unnecessary road construction.  The health care system is deadly. The schools are dreadful.  They have the highest number per capita of middle class kids on drugs.  It is polluted and a mess.  The Bidens (father and son) are a big part of the power structure that runs that state....Being such a small state everyone knows everyone else; they all hang out at the same country clubs and go to the same parties.  It is very inbred.

Biden may also be a &quot;drinker.&quot;  I don&#039;t know, but he acts like one.  It may be that he is just drunk on power and high on the fact that he can charm anyone--it seems--out of anything.  I think he and BO are perfectly matched.  Neither knows what he is doing and both are now at the top of their incompetence and game....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Biden is a terribly misunderstood individual, but that is intentional.  Like BO he is not what he appears to be. He is, like BO, charming and has a long record of being every one&#8217;s friend.  But under all that hale-fellow-well-meant affect is a very sharp and dangerous guy&#8211;also like BO.  </p>
<p>Remember Clarence Thomas would not be on the Supreme Court, if it weren&#8217;t for Biden&#8217;s screwing up the  Senate hearings.  It was Biden who called off the hearings before other women, who were prepared to corroborate Anita Hill&#8217;s testimony, could speak.  Read <em>Strange Justice</em> for the details.</p>
<p>Also, there is a reason so many corporations and especially credit card companies choose DE as their corporate headquarters.  They are protected in DE.  It is a state that has a long history of supporting anything corporate over the welfare of consumers and employees.  And yet, after years of supporting this system in DE and these big money companies, Biden ran on the imagine of being a &#8220;regular Joe.&#8221;  There is nothing about him that is middle-class or ever was.  (Even his family was very wealthy before his father lost their money.)</p>
<p>DE is one of the most corrupt states in the country.  I have family that used to live there.  Nothing gets done except for lots of unnecessary road construction.  The health care system is deadly. The schools are dreadful.  They have the highest number per capita of middle class kids on drugs.  It is polluted and a mess.  The Bidens (father and son) are a big part of the power structure that runs that state&#8230;.Being such a small state everyone knows everyone else; they all hang out at the same country clubs and go to the same parties.  It is very inbred.</p>
<p>Biden may also be a &#8220;drinker.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t know, but he acts like one.  It may be that he is just drunk on power and high on the fact that he can charm anyone&#8211;it seems&#8211;out of anything.  I think he and BO are perfectly matched.  Neither knows what he is doing and both are now at the top of their incompetence and game&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: BernieO</title>
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		<dc:creator>BernieO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be fine if he were not in such a position of prominence. He can cause a lot of turmoil with his mouth. That remark about Obama being tested because of his inexperience was a good example. Yes, he was probably right, but it was wildly irresponsible to say it.
What if he pops off like that about a country we are trying to negotiate with? He could undermine our diplomatic efforts shooting off his mouth like that. Bet Hillary is worried about that.

One thing, I have a feeling he will undo Cheney&#039;s  legacy of a too-powerful VP. The Obama people seem to be keeping Biden out of the public eye. They have to be suffering buyers&#039; remorse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be fine if he were not in such a position of prominence. He can cause a lot of turmoil with his mouth. That remark about Obama being tested because of his inexperience was a good example. Yes, he was probably right, but it was wildly irresponsible to say it.<br />
What if he pops off like that about a country we are trying to negotiate with? He could undermine our diplomatic efforts shooting off his mouth like that. Bet Hillary is worried about that.</p>
<p>One thing, I have a feeling he will undo Cheney&#8217;s  legacy of a too-powerful VP. The Obama people seem to be keeping Biden out of the public eye. They have to be suffering buyers&#8217; remorse.</p>
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		<title>By: somerset</title>
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		<dc:creator>somerset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry for those of you that missed Joe during the time he was chairman of the clarence thomas hearings.  We learned so much about erotomania...that is when a woman is being sexually harassed and complains, then is blamed for seeking sex all the time, drooling with lust and psychotic mania.  It was sooooo informative.  Joe kept the other three women, probably also suffering from deadly erotomania, locked in their hotel room so they couldn&#039;t testify about clarence&#039;s sexual harassment of them.  He and that entire MALE committee plus clarence the porn king are asshats.  But thank God we have no woman in the White House.  They are such c****.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry for those of you that missed Joe during the time he was chairman of the clarence thomas hearings.  We learned so much about erotomania&#8230;that is when a woman is being sexually harassed and complains, then is blamed for seeking sex all the time, drooling with lust and psychotic mania.  It was sooooo informative.  Joe kept the other three women, probably also suffering from deadly erotomania, locked in their hotel room so they couldn&#8217;t testify about clarence&#8217;s sexual harassment of them.  He and that entire MALE committee plus clarence the porn king are asshats.  But thank God we have no woman in the White House.  They are such c****.</p>
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