as was said…like an eye for an eyelash…

name callers like you are part of the problem…cannot manage their own anger, let alone try to understand there are two sides to every story…

does israel have any responsibility at all in this war or do you blame the other side for everything…if so, you are part of the problem, not the solution…

Digging For The Dead

Israeli Attack on 4-storey Building in Gaza Kills 25

3 Minute Raw Video

Israeli F-16 planes hit a 4-storey apartment building belonging to civilians in Gaza on Tuesday. While the building was razed to the ground, 25 people were killed in the building.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21678.htm

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The lying silence of those who know

By John Pilger

When the truth is replaced by silence,” the Soviet dissident Yevgeny Yevtushenko said, “the silence is a lie.” It may appear the silence is broken on Gaza. The cocoons of murdered children, wrapped in green, together with boxes containing their dismembered parents and the cries of grief and rage of everyone in that death camp by the sea, can be viewed on al-Jazeera and YouTube, even glimpsed on the BBC.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21680.htm

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The Courage To Resist: Woman Faces Down Armed Israeli Soldiers.

Please watch this 2 minute video

53 seconds into the video an unknown woman stands in front of Israeli soldiers and prevents them from firing on unarmed protesters.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21676.htm

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Why Do They Hate The West So Much, We Will Ask

By Robert Fisk

So once again, Israel has opened the gates of hell to the Palestinians. Forty civilian refugees dead in a United Nations school, three more in another. Not bad for a night’s work in Gaza by the army that believes in “purity of arms”. But why should we be surprised?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21675.htm

How do we go from “overwhelming” support to:
“at least a little bit representative of the people”? and
“one can hardly act like they don’t have anything whatsoever to do with the will of the average Palestinian”.

All or nothing? There’s a pretty big difference in my mind between “overwhelming” and “a little bit”, then to the completely reduced, “don’t have anything whatsoever to do with”.

It seems you’re trying to cast that net as wide as possible to make Hamas=All Palestinians, no matter what facts are available.

440,000 out of 1.3Mil for Hamas. 550,000 who voted other than Hamas…not the majority of voters even. A majority would be 550,000 over 440,000.

To me, an overwhelming support in US politics would be a victory of say…55% or so. Above half plus some. Again, in US politics if you earn less than 45 percent of the vote your “mandate” is questioned.

Did we forget how quickly people skewered presidents who thought they had a mandate when they won less than half the vote?
So why is Hamas so different?

They have a different system, but the percentages didn’t change.
110,00 more people voted for someone other than Hamas.

and they won 44% to Fatah’s 41.9 percent…

If it were in Minnesota, they’d be in an automatic runoff.

“will of the average palestinian”
NBNW, we went over this before…you say average all the time, yet told me you base your sense of average on internet posts and such.

I really don’t like discounting you, and I thought we were getting pretty real with each other the other day. I hope we don’t have to say it was a waste.

I’d like to know why you think out of 1.3 million voters, 440,000 is overwhelming, when 550,000 voted another way? (divided between Fatah and others)

So please explain to me, seriously, now if…out of 1.3 million voters…less than 1/3 of them voted for Hamas, and you say, “overwhelming” support. Please.

and, I’m done calling you a bigot or any such thing because people are dying and I would like to know where you get the idea that Hamas has “overwhelming” support with these numbers.

Do I have to spend my night denying things that you are concerned with? That is a bit ridiculous.

“What you want to see is Israel allowing this gigantic beast to whack”

See, you’re problem Zeke, is you’re so busy trying to assert things on people, you have no honesty to this conversation.

“And your argument is that since it only hurts to be whacked with said tentacle and that it isn’t fatal that it is wrong to amputate the tentacle.”

Nope, never made that argument. You are confusing yourself again. Pay attention.

Here’s what’s funny…You say Hamas wants to destroy Israel, and I agree. Someone says, Hamas can’t destroy Israel, and I agree…and yet…you want to insert more denials instead of acknowledging agreement.

You aren’t doing so well at keeping up with what people are saying, and you might want to back off your projection stuff.

This is very sweet and gives me tingles up my frikken leg. Is that Jesse Colin Young singing in the background?
All we are sayyyying…. is give peace a chance

That’s not what I said.

You either misunderstood, or are not capable of understanding. Perhaps you are so entrenched in your POV, you can no longer function, rationally. Those who do not recognize the tactic lose the war, whether it’s the IDF, or Cheney’s Pentagon.

Scary, isn’t it?

And this is why the Israeli neocons will fail.

Good luck.