Comments on: Tracking Americans by Cell Phone + Friday Open Thread http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/ Thu, 24 May 2012 05:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: BigMIke http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-1227654 BigMIke Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:31:20 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-1227654 <strong>BigMIke...</strong> I am So Lucky That I found your blog and great articles. I will come to your blog often for finding new great articles from your blog.I am adding your rss feed in my reader Thank you... BigMIke…

I am So Lucky That I found your blog and great articles. I will come to your blog often for finding new great articles from your blog.I am adding your rss feed in my reader Thank you…

]]> By: Patrick http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-1216234 Patrick Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:59:38 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-1216234 <strong>Physical Security Risk Assessment...</strong> Intriguing idea, but I don't know if I believe you one hundred percent.... Physical Security Risk Assessment…

Intriguing idea, but I don’t know if I believe you one hundred percent….

]]> By: MM675 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-233314 MM675 Fri, 09 May 2008 04:53:00 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-233314 <strong>MM675</strong> Thanks for your input. Keep it up. MM675

Thanks for your input. Keep it up.

]]> By: covert gps tracking vehicle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-133526 covert gps tracking vehicle Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:45:03 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-133526 <strong>covert gps tracking vehicle...</strong> haha gotta love it...... covert gps tracking vehicle…

haha gotta love it……

]]> By: HoosierHoops http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65875 HoosierHoops Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:36:42 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65875 good one fred....707 good one fred….707

]]> By: Fred C. Dobbs http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65705 Fred C. Dobbs Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:56:28 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65705 They can take away my CYMBALTA when they pry ot from my cold, dead fingers... They can take away my CYMBALTA when they pry ot from my cold, dead fingers…

]]> By: Shirin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65609 Shirin Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:25:52 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65609 Gide'on Levy is a great person! Amira Hass is another one. She lived for seven years with Palestinians in Gaza during the first Intifada, and since then she has lived in Ram Allah. Her point of view was that if she was supposed to write about the occupation and events in the Occupied Palestinian Territories she had a responsibility as a journalist to live in the place she wrote about. Gide’on Levy is a great person!

Amira Hass is another one. She lived for seven years with Palestinians in Gaza during the first Intifada, and since then she has lived in Ram Allah. Her point of view was that if she was supposed to write about the occupation and events in the Occupied Palestinian Territories she had a responsibility as a journalist to live in the place she wrote about.

]]> By: G Hazeltine http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65601 G Hazeltine Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:16:41 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65601 Gideon Levy in Haaretz: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=927531 Gideon Levy in Haaretz:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=927531

]]> By: hoosierhoops http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65571 hoosierhoops Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:38:52 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65571 shirin: You are right, I really don't have a clear understanding..But i think there will need to be some kind of comprise if diplomacy is to work... Other than that..I'll just back away on this subject and not make a fool of myself or my subject knowledge.. shirin: You are right, I really don’t have a clear understanding..But i think there will need to be some kind of comprise if diplomacy is to work…

Other than that..I’ll just back away on this subject and not make a fool of myself or my subject knowledge..

]]> By: Shirin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65564 Shirin Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:31:58 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65564 Kathleen, for some very, very high level and very knowledgeable discussion of Israel-Palestine and other Middle Eastern issues including some very well qualified people, may I recommend that you check out http://justworldnews.com/. The owner of this blog, and many of the people who post comments are very well educated on the issues there. And yes, we do have a regular bunch of hasbaristas of various qualities who show up there every time the subject turns to Israel/Palestine to repeat their tired, stale, easily-dismantled nonsense, but one can either ignore them (as I do most of the time), or have a little fun tearing down their propaganda house of cards. Kathleen, for some very, very high level and very knowledgeable discussion of Israel-Palestine and other Middle Eastern issues including some very well qualified people, may I recommend that you check out http://justworldnews.com/. The owner of this blog, and many of the people who post comments are very well educated on the issues there. And yes, we do have a regular bunch of hasbaristas of various qualities who show up there every time the subject turns to Israel/Palestine to repeat their tired, stale, easily-dismantled nonsense, but one can either ignore them (as I do most of the time), or have a little fun tearing down their propaganda house of cards.

]]> By: Shirin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65556 Shirin Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:20:58 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65556 Kathleen, I have never understood why the Palestinians need to compromise with Israel. Is the victim of theft required to compromise with the theif? Are the children of a murder victim required to compromise with the murderers? I don't get it. Kathleen, I have never understood why the Palestinians need to compromise with Israel. Is the victim of theft required to compromise with the theif? Are the children of a murder victim required to compromise with the murderers? I don’t get it.

]]> By: Shirin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65555 Shirin Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:18:55 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65555 Hoopster, with respect, I don't think you really have a clear understanding of the situation or the issues involved. Hoopster, with respect, I don’t think you really have a clear understanding of the situation or the issues involved.

]]> By: Shirin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65553 Shirin Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:15:40 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65553 Kathleen, I cannot understand for the life of me how a website - or a person - can consider itself progressive and not acknowledge Israel's criminal behaviour. It openly flouts international law and its government and military thumb their noses at the principles of decent human behaviour, and it has done so for most of its existence under the protection of the United States. Kathleen, I cannot understand for the life of me how a website – or a person – can consider itself progressive and not acknowledge Israel’s criminal behaviour. It openly flouts international law and its government and military thumb their noses at the principles of decent human behaviour, and it has done so for most of its existence under the protection of the United States.

]]> By: Shirin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65539 Shirin Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:03:27 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65539 Yup! I really don't know why I held out as long as I did before getting a cell phone. I have had one since the late '90's, and don't use it a lot (I don't like talking on the phone), and always have lots of minutes left over, but it is one of the most useful items I own. (I also would not want to be without an iPod. I use it mainly for podcasts, and it allows me to keep up with information while commuting, working out, doing chores around the house and garden - time that would otherwise be wasted in terms of information gathering. I also have a gadget in my car that will play the iPod over the car speakers via an FM signal - it isn't perfect, but it is very useful. Oh yes - and I have also used it to learn some Urdu, and to accustom my ear to different Arabic dialects.) Yup! I really don’t know why I held out as long as I did before getting a cell phone. I have had one since the late ’90′s, and don’t use it a lot (I don’t like talking on the phone), and always have lots of minutes left over, but it is one of the most useful items I own.

(I also would not want to be without an iPod. I use it mainly for podcasts, and it allows me to keep up with information while commuting, working out, doing chores around the house and garden – time that would otherwise be wasted in terms of information gathering. I also have a gadget in my car that will play the iPod over the car speakers via an FM signal – it isn’t perfect, but it is very useful. Oh yes – and I have also used it to learn some Urdu, and to accustom my ear to different Arabic dialects.)

]]> By: Shirin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1098/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65512 Shirin Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:38:29 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/23/tracking-americans-by-cell-phone-friday-open-thread/#comment-65512 Well, Kathleen, I don't know the reason the "progressive" blogosphere is not discussing it unless they undrestand it as it certainly is - a non-event run by the inept, unprepared, and desperate, and bringing together the unready, unwilling, and unable. (Hamas, the party the Palestinians chose in a free and fair election to lead and represent them is not invited because the Bush regime and the Israelis did not choose them. Instead, the Palestinians' "representatives" will be the corrupt and brutal puppets and quislings chosen by the Israelis and the Bush regime - so much for bringing democracy to the Middle East.) The Annapolis charade doesn't have a chance in hell of accomplishing anything. This is Condi's show - her last gasp at having something she hopes she can call a "legacy". Not surprisingly, the Israeli press <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=927235&contrassID=2&subContrassID=4" rel="nofollow">has it about right</a>: "<i>They discovered that her intellectual world was narrow, and that her management style was characterized by authoritarianism and arrogance.</i>" "<i>Rice showed herself in all her intellectual frailty and character weakness...She had no cohesive worldview about international relations or the modes of action required by the state... "Lacking an intellectual compass, Rice drifted with the prevailing winds and became, effectively, the minister of information for the war in Iraq.</i>" "<i>In time, Rice realized that Iraq was a bleeding quagmire that would not cover her in glory. She desperately needed an achievement, and so turned to the never-ending Israeli-Palestinian conflict. "This is the real story of Annapolis: a story of fierce personal emotions, disappointment, affront and desperation. "But what action did Rice set in motion, and to what end? The action is not based on an American assessment that the conflict is ripe for resolution and/or that there are leaders in the region capable of deciding. In Annapolis we will see no more than an extravagant media gimmick; an orchestrated performance whose Middle Eastern actors are taking part in it halfheartedly because 'the president expects it.' "Rice, the proprietor, is pushing, because less than a year remains until the elections...</i>" And that's what it's really all about. Israel will not be ready to make peace with its neighbors (or declare that it has borders) until either it is satisfied that it has acquired all the territory it wants, or it is forced by the international community, or simple exhaustion to comply with international law. And neither of those events is likely to happen any time soon. Well, Kathleen, I don’t know the reason the “progressive” blogosphere is not discussing it unless they undrestand it as it certainly is – a non-event run by the inept, unprepared, and desperate, and bringing together the unready, unwilling, and unable. (Hamas, the party the Palestinians chose in a free and fair election to lead and represent them is not invited because the Bush regime and the Israelis did not choose them. Instead, the Palestinians’ “representatives” will be the corrupt and brutal puppets and quislings chosen by the Israelis and the Bush regime – so much for bringing democracy to the Middle East.)

The Annapolis charade doesn’t have a chance in hell of accomplishing anything. This is Condi’s show – her last gasp at having something she hopes she can call a “legacy”.

Not surprisingly, the Israeli press has it about right:

“They discovered that her intellectual world was narrow, and that her management style was characterized by authoritarianism and arrogance.”

“Rice showed herself in all her intellectual frailty and character weakness…She had no cohesive worldview about international relations or the modes of action required by the state…

“Lacking an intellectual compass, Rice drifted with the prevailing winds and became, effectively, the minister of information for the war in Iraq.”

“In time, Rice realized that Iraq was a bleeding quagmire that would not cover her in glory. She desperately needed an achievement, and so turned to the never-ending Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

“This is the real story of Annapolis: a story of fierce personal emotions, disappointment, affront and desperation.

“But what action did Rice set in motion, and to what end? The action is not based on an American assessment that the conflict is ripe for resolution and/or that there are leaders in the region capable of deciding. In Annapolis we will see no more than an extravagant media gimmick; an orchestrated performance whose Middle Eastern actors are taking part in it halfheartedly because ‘the president expects it.’

“Rice, the proprietor, is pushing, because less than a year remains until the elections…”

And that’s what it’s really all about.

Israel will not be ready to make peace with its neighbors (or declare that it has borders) until either it is satisfied that it has acquired all the territory it wants, or it is forced by the international community, or simple exhaustion to comply with international law. And neither of those events is likely to happen any time soon.

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