Comments on: Four Days in Iraq: And this Means the Surge is Working? http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/ Thu, 24 May 2012 05:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Jessie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-1168957 Jessie Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:11:45 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-1168957 <strong>south beach diet work...</strong> I usually agree with your article content, but in this case I am sorry to say that I do not share your views.... south beach diet work…

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]]> By: Shirin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-68486 Shirin Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:04:25 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-68486 Thanks Cee. And isn't it interesting how this declaration, which Hamas made repeatedly and clearly after the election, has been studiously ignored in favour of the lie that they refuse to recognize Israel. Thanks Cee.

And isn’t it interesting how this declaration, which Hamas made repeatedly and clearly after the election, has been studiously ignored in favour of the lie that they refuse to recognize Israel.

]]> By: mudkitty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-68398 mudkitty Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:47:08 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-68398 A big factor in reduced violence is ethnic cleansing. A big factor in reduced violence is ethnic cleansing.

]]> By: Cee http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-68346 Cee Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:06:03 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-68346 http://www.counterpunch.org/loewenstein06122006.html Setting the Record Straight on Hamas II. Hamas accepts a two-state solution. When asked by Newsweek-Washington Post correspondent Lally Weymouth on 26 February 2006 what agreements Hamas was prepared to honor, the new Hamas Prime Minister, Ismail Haniyeh answered, "the ones that will guarantee the establishment of a Palestinian State with Jerusalem as its capital with 1967 borders." Weymouth went on, "Will you recognize Israel?" to which Haniyeh responded, "If Israel declares that it will give the Palestinian people a state and give them back all their rights then we are ready to recognize them." (5) This view encapsulates the Hamas demand for reciprocity." http://www.counterpunch.org/loewenstein06122006.html

Setting the Record Straight on Hamas

II. Hamas accepts a two-state solution. When asked by Newsweek-Washington Post correspondent Lally Weymouth on 26 February 2006 what agreements Hamas was prepared to honor, the new Hamas Prime Minister, Ismail Haniyeh answered, “the ones that will guarantee the establishment of a Palestinian State with Jerusalem as its capital with 1967 borders.” Weymouth went on, “Will you recognize Israel?” to which Haniyeh responded, “If Israel declares that it will give the Palestinian people a state and give them back all their rights then we are ready to recognize them.” (5) This view encapsulates the Hamas demand for reciprocity.”

]]> By: bob h http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-68265 bob h Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:25:59 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-68265 A big factor in the "reduced" violence is that the Shiite militias have been told to cool it. It is not the surge but the sufferance of the Shiite leaders that is responsible. When they turn the switch to "on" again, the surge triumphalism will collapse. A big factor in the “reduced” violence is that the Shiite militias have been told to cool it. It is not the surge but the sufferance of the Shiite leaders that is responsible. When they turn the switch to “on” again, the surge triumphalism will collapse.

]]> By: Shirin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67977 Shirin Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:31:28 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67977 The abject cluelessness of Condi Rice: "<i>Ms. Rice, who had heralded the election as a symbol of the new stirrings of democracy in the Middle East, was so blindsided by the victory that she was startled when she saw a crawl of words on her television screen while exercising on her elliptical trainer the morning after the election: 'In wake of Hamas victory, Palestinian cabinet resigns.' “I thought, ‘Well, that’s not right,’' Ms. Rice recalled. When the crawl continued, she got off the elliptical trainer and called the State Department. “'I said, ‘What happened in the Palestinian elections?’ Ms. Rice recalled. “And they said, ‘Oh, Hamas won.’ And I thought, ‘Oh my goodness, Hamas won?’</i>" The abject cluelessness of Condi Rice:

“Ms. Rice, who had heralded the election as a symbol of the new stirrings of democracy in the Middle East, was so blindsided by the victory that she was startled when she saw a crawl of words on her television screen while exercising on her elliptical trainer the morning after the election: ‘In wake of Hamas victory, Palestinian cabinet resigns.’

“I thought, ‘Well, that’s not right,’’ Ms. Rice recalled. When the crawl continued, she got off the elliptical trainer and called the State Department.

“’I said, ‘What happened in the Palestinian elections?’ Ms. Rice recalled. “And they said, ‘Oh, Hamas won.’ And I thought, ‘Oh my goodness, Hamas won?’“

]]> By: Fred C. Dobbs http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67658 Fred C. Dobbs Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:53:21 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67658 Interesting. The 235,000 BBL lift is the exact capacity of a T-5, and the 147,000 BBL could be the MV MONTAUK, which usually provides POL to Diego Garcia, Wake and Kwajalein. In 2003 we were using the T-5's for short-haul and back-haul loads, Intra-Gulf, that might normally be done by big barges or smaller, local tankers on regional spot charter market. Hopefully they are beyond that now, as it was grinding work... The "bump" in total tender can also be caused when one particular ship is in the yard for its biannual yard period," or when one T-5 is supplying McMurdo or Thule. Some of this is seasonal shifting in prices and demand due to refinery ops. They use heating oil in other places, for instance, and most refiners crack that in preparation for the heating season. The JP products would be right after that, along with DFM-76 (Diesel Fuel, Marine), which most USN Diesel powered ships use. So, nothing definitive there, but a good place to look! Thanks for the tip. Interesting. The 235,000 BBL lift is the exact capacity of a T-5, and the 147,000 BBL could be the MV MONTAUK, which usually provides POL to Diego Garcia, Wake and Kwajalein.

In 2003 we were using the T-5′s for short-haul and back-haul loads, Intra-Gulf, that might normally be done by big barges or smaller, local tankers on regional spot charter market. Hopefully they are beyond that now, as it was grinding work…

The “bump” in total tender can also be caused when one particular ship is in the yard for its biannual yard period,” or when one T-5 is supplying McMurdo or Thule.

Some of this is seasonal shifting in prices and demand due to refinery ops. They use heating oil in other places, for instance, and most refiners crack that in preparation for the heating season. The JP products would be right after that, along with DFM-76 (Diesel Fuel, Marine), which most USN Diesel powered ships use.

So, nothing definitive there, but a good place to look! Thanks for the tip.

]]> By: Shirin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67634 Shirin Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:32:24 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67634 Well, Montag, I have enormous respect for Rashid Khalidi. However... Hamas may not have explicitly stated "Hamas regognizes Israel", but saying it recognizes Israel is relatively meaningless. What is far more valuable is that Hamas has stated clearly the terms on which it will make peace with Israel, and the terms are no less reasonable than the terms demanded by international law - an end to the occupation of Palestinian land, withdrawal to the pre-1967 boundaries (with minor adjustments to make the boundary more manageable for both sides, and a free, independent, and sovereign Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem. Clearly, that is still, as it has been for many decades, far too much to ask for peace. Well, Montag, I have enormous respect for Rashid Khalidi. However…

Hamas may not have explicitly stated “Hamas regognizes Israel”, but saying it recognizes Israel is relatively meaningless. What is far more valuable is that Hamas has stated clearly the terms on which it will make peace with Israel, and the terms are no less reasonable than the terms demanded by international law – an end to the occupation of Palestinian land, withdrawal to the pre-1967 boundaries (with minor adjustments to make the boundary more manageable for both sides, and a free, independent, and sovereign Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem.

Clearly, that is still, as it has been for many decades, far too much to ask for peace.

]]> By: Teaeopy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67556 Teaeopy Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:18:05 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67556 Hypocrites, for sure. He'd look closely at how others were done unto. Hypocrites, for sure. He’d look closely at how others were done unto.

]]> By: Donovan Fraser http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67473 Donovan Fraser Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:05:16 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67473 they can sign anything they like. it isn't worth the paper it is written on. much like our treaties with the Native american Indians. pure theater, nothing more. The next president is going to spend his or her whole first term fixing what this numbnut has sewn. note to president Bush:Eat bigger and herder pretzels next time! they can sign anything they like. it isn’t worth the paper it is written on.
much like our treaties with the Native american Indians. pure theater, nothing more.
The next president is going to spend his or her whole first term fixing what this numbnut has sewn.

note to president Bush:Eat bigger and herder pretzels next time!

]]> By: Teaeopy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67416 Teaeopy Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:20:38 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67416 And there'll be no reason not to bring the laptop, since no one will have the least interest in intercepting wireless traffic, or in stealing/confiscating the laptop. And there’ll be no reason not to bring the laptop, since no one will have the least interest in intercepting wireless traffic, or in stealing/confiscating the laptop.

]]> By: Teaeopy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67386 Teaeopy Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:02:47 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67386 I'd like to see Romney's statements about Muslims get all the attention they should, but, given the bizarre and contradictory positions taken toward Islam by the Bush administration and by many Republicans and Democrats, I don't know how much his remarks will stand out. On one hand, we get various versions of “‘they’ attacked ‘us’”. On the other hand, US blood, treasure, and honor are put on the line to uphold the Coalition-fostered Islamic Republic of Iraq, the Constitution of which establishes Islam as a foundation of law. There's religious, cultural, ethnocentric, xenophobic bias underlying it all, that's for sure, and it's so sweet to those who crave it that no amount of harm is enough to make them let go of it. The harm that's done falls heavily on Islamic populations, but the harm done to the USA and some Coalition partners is also immeasurable and unjustified. I’d like to see Romney’s statements about Muslims get all the attention they should, but, given the bizarre and contradictory positions taken toward Islam by the Bush administration and by many Republicans and Democrats, I don’t know how much his remarks will stand out.

On one hand, we get various versions of “‘they’ attacked ‘us’”. On the other hand, US blood, treasure, and honor are put on the line to uphold the Coalition-fostered Islamic Republic of Iraq, the Constitution of which establishes Islam as a foundation of law. There’s religious, cultural, ethnocentric, xenophobic bias underlying it all, that’s for sure, and it’s so sweet to those who crave it that no amount of harm is enough to make them let go of it. The harm that’s done falls heavily on Islamic populations, but the harm done to the USA and some Coalition partners is also immeasurable and unjustified.

]]> By: Montag http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67359 Montag Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:44:46 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67359 Shirin, Rashid Khalidi has been very critical of Hamas for running in the elections (a major concession by them to begin with!) without being willing to recognize Israel (not that they'd get a damn thing for this concession). They insisted on falling between two stools and taking the Palestinian people with them. To be fair to Hamas, I don't think they were counting on actually WINNING the election, just getting a respectable number of seats and serving as "the loyal opposition" in Parliament. The problem is that the result was 100% predictable. Of course this criticism doesn't justify the reaction to the victory by Hamas, just that Hamas shouldn't be shocked, shocked, that the U.S. and Israel weren't delighted by the result and chose to vent their displeasure upon the Palestinians as a whole. The hypocrisy of the Israelis in condemning Fatah as a hopelessly corrupt organization and then dropping dead from surprise when the Palestinians refused to vote for them beggars the imagination. Don't they even listen to their own propaganda anymore? Oh right, it's intended purely for foreign consumption. Shirin,
Rashid Khalidi has been very critical of Hamas for running in the elections (a major concession by them to begin with!) without being willing to recognize Israel (not that they’d get a damn thing for this concession). They insisted on falling between two stools and taking the Palestinian people with them. To be fair to Hamas, I don’t think they were counting on actually WINNING the election, just getting a respectable number of seats and serving as “the loyal opposition” in Parliament. The problem is that the result was 100% predictable.

Of course this criticism doesn’t justify the reaction to the victory by Hamas, just that Hamas shouldn’t be shocked, shocked, that the U.S. and Israel weren’t delighted by the result and chose to vent their displeasure upon the Palestinians as a whole.

The hypocrisy of the Israelis in condemning Fatah as a hopelessly corrupt organization and then dropping dead from surprise when the Palestinians refused to vote for them beggars the imagination. Don’t they even listen to their own propaganda anymore? Oh right, it’s intended purely for foreign consumption.

]]> By: PrchrLady http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67337 PrchrLady Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:27:22 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67337 Very wise words, Oldtree. We do need to got back to those days, days when people still used 'common sense' in their lives. These days, so few seem to look beyond the immediate gratification of whatever they want to do, or are doing, to even understand the world around them. Very wise words, Oldtree. We do need to got back to those days, days when people still used ‘common sense’ in their lives. These days, so few seem to look beyond the immediate gratification of whatever they want to do, or are doing, to even understand the world around them.

]]> By: Cee http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1113/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67285 Cee Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:47:57 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/26/four-days-in-iraq-and-this-means-the-surge-is-working/#comment-67285 We all need to pray for their babies and others like them. No electricity means no clean water. I watched a special on the Science Channel (Surviving Urban Disasters) the other evening that showed how to sterilize water. Collect the water, cover the top and use a straw or whatever to allow steam to escape as the water is heated over a fire or candle. Collect the steam that drips from the straw into a container. Clean water. Pass this on to your friends. I had no idea how to do this. We all need to pray for their babies and others like them. No electricity means no clean water.

I watched a special on the Science Channel (Surviving Urban Disasters) the other evening that showed how to sterilize water. Collect the water, cover the top and use a straw or whatever to allow steam to escape as the water is heated over a fire or candle. Collect the steam that drips from the straw into a container. Clean water.

Pass this on to your friends. I had no idea how to do this.

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