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Signals: What Will an Obama Presidency Be Like?

Ed. Note: Bumped up by Susan so everyone can read it this morning. This is a guest post by a valued friend of PatRacimora, our great cartoonist.
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One of my favorite episodes of Seinfeld is the pilot. If you haven’t seen the episode, it is about George and Jerry trying to interpret the mixed signals from one of Jerry’s lady friends. I won’t spoil the end, but this clip gives you a flavor of what the episode is about:

Every time I’m asked about what an Obama presidency will be like, I think of this episode.

Why? Since the media–which led us into an ill conceived, unjustified war in Iraq (amongst other things)–has failed to critically examine Obama’s record or force clarity from him, we are really only left with a series of mixed signals.

Unlike many people, I have little interest in predicting what an Obama presidency will be like; to me, he could be anything from the best president in the history of the entire universe or he could be worse than Bush.

When I evaluate an Obama presidency in its infancy, it’s all about the signals. Rather than analyze every single act Obama has done, this post will focus on a handful of signals I noticed before Obama even won the general election. These signals largely determine the lens with which I will be evaluating the upcoming Obama presidency.

The very first signal for me came very early on, and it was the general sentiment of hostility toward Hillary Clinton and non-Obama supporters generally. (Remember the Hillary Nutcrackers showing up at Democratic events?) A candidate speaking of hope and change fostering such hostility in so many others was not a good sign. Then, after a media reluctant to attack Hillary’s character avoided doing so throughout the summer, Barack Obama and John Edwards opened the floodgates of hate by rehashing some of the early Hillary hate themes: she is “polarizing” and will “say or do anything to win.”

After giving the media the go-ahead to go after Hillary and her character, Obama and a few others, including his eventual running mate Joe Biden, attempted to thwart the primary process by trying to silence two states and 2.5 million voters.

The caucus fraud and intimidation, the bullying of Democratic leadership to prevent Hillary from even taking her case to the voters, and the RBC giving delegates earned by Hillary to Barack Obama were similarly ominous. I am very skeptical of a politician and a Party willing to engage in such undemocratic behavior. To me, it speaks to their willingness to ignore fundamental tenants of democracy in order to gain, or retain power.

Upon receiving the nomination by illegitimate means, one of the first acts of the Democratic nominee was also a bad sign.

First, Obama states that he will fight against FISA reform that gives immunity to telecom law breakers. A few days later, the Democratic nominee votes for a bill granting immunity to the telecom industry. I’ll let others debate the pros and cons of granting immunity as it is secondary to the say-one-thing-do-another approach this demonstrates.

These early signals suggest a temperament that I am personally uncomfortable with, and too similar to the worst in George W. Bush.

First, he seems content to allow hateful bigotry to be used as a weapon to defeat foes. (Let’s face it, the sexism we saw was nothing other than bigotry. See this interview with Kathleen Hall Jamieson that explains how the frames used by Obama and Edwards were clearly based on a sexist narrative. Scroll past the initial segment to get to the interview.)

Second, he seems content to throw out fundamental tenets of democracy to further his career/agenda. Finally, the soon-to-be president has demonstrated the ability to say one thing one day and do something completely different just days later.

As I discuss Obama’s steps since his November election and going forward, my commentary will be shaped by the temperament these signals suggest and the skepticism that they warrant, even of positive steps taken by Obama.

As a final note, I’ve spent a decent amount of time studying the rise of Movement Conservatives, so many of my thoughts are on how Obama’s inexperience and temperament fit into the plans of the conservative movement, even if Obama does not share their convictions or intentions. In other words, even a well-intentioned person with poor leadership can lead to disaster.

  • I’m a Linda too

    lmao

    Oh no, please tell me he’s not going to use the “I didn’t know” response. Or, “it wasn’t in the ‘Complete Idiot’s Guide to being President’” .

    • nancy sabet

      I also ” have little interest in predicting what an Obama presidency will be like; to me, he could be anything from the best president in the history of the entire universe or he could be worse than Bush.” He is and was a FRAUD. He did not win the primary, is not eligible, and media selected him and not the people.

  • I’m a Linda too

    lmao

    Oh no, please tell me he’s not going to use the “I didn’t know” defense, Or, “it wasn’t in the ‘Complete Idiot’s Guide to being President’” .

  • Tricia Spiegel

    Signals–not that strong yet! I hope he shapes up!
    The Seinfeld video is funny!!!
    Thanks Chris.

    • FranSC

      Signals? What signals? I haven’t seen anything but MIXED signals. How can you send signals when you have no agenda. His agenda will come from his appointees’ agendas. Then he looks successful inspite of himself and gets the credit for these appointees carrying out HIS agenda. Thank goodness, for our country’s sake, he has had help (I have no doubt!) in choosing these people who will be running our government.

  • mountainaires

    A very good, thoughtful essay on how we will judge the success of an Obama Administration. But there were so many signals of “danger, danger Will Robinson” that I can hardly, even now, recall all of them in an instant. His deal on the house with Rezko; his wife getting a job doubling her salary within days of his winning a Senate seat–which, suddenly, by the way, she has lost; her job has quietly been cut, within days of Obama assuming the Presidency. Obama’s pick of Tim Geithner–a man who sat at the right hand of Hanky Paulson, who is the architect of the relaxed banking regulations which led us to this economic disaster. Obama’s ties to Blagojevich, suddenly obscure.

    Tonite, As George W. Bush pleads his case before the American people in a “final farewell” [and I celebrate his departure] I remember the past 8 years, but mostly I remember my warnings in both 2001 and 2004 when the American people elected that bastard. I warned people I knew that he would prove to be a disaster; that his “christianism” would prove to be anything but “Christian.” And, that Americans would rue the day they ever believed his masquerade.

    I now say the same thing about Barack Obama. He will prove to be a disaster. His particularly odious brand of con-artistry is written on his “charm.” Just like Bush.

    But he has a record. Just like Bush. People won’t see it and will ignore it. Just like with Bush. But we will rue the day we ever believed his masquerade.

    • Clara Barton

      Obama the Odious. Yep-that is he.

      Great article, Chris Martin. Thanks for the this and for pointing out some of the truly egregious signals from way back. It didn’t take many of these signals for us to know he’s a lowlife man. For example, can anyone beat the signal of him brushing “the dirt” off his shoulders then flipping off Hillary?

      • Kat5

        All the signals sane people have received from Obama have pointed straight towards ‘has absolutely no moral compass’. Very hard to imagine anything good coming of this. I have great trepidation about masses of unhealthy fallout resulting from his presidency. We’ve already witnessed plenty of this from his candidacy. Here’s hoping I’m wrong. But I don’t think I am, unfortunately.

        • Ani

          That is the problem — no moral compass.

          Witness the flip flops on Gitmo just this week. His idea of policy is run it up a flagpole and see if he can get away with it.

          Thanks for this article, Chris. Looking forward to reading more.

    • BernieO

      Are you saying Michelle’s old position has been eliminated? That would speak volumes.

      I have one minor disagreement with this post. From what I saw (and I watch the media closely) the media laid off at first Hillary because she was so flawless in the debates and was clearly superior to all the other candidates. After she made that “enormous” blunder in one debate about her stand on licenses for illegals, the gloves came off. It was clear the media had been waiting for any chance to pounce so they blew a complicated answer up into a supposed huge blunder. It’s like all those jerks in high school who were struggling to get C’s rejoicing that the smart kid got an A- instead of the usual A+. That they did not really believe her answer was a big deal was made crystal clear a couple of weeks later when Obama, having had two weeks to prepare, fumbled the exact same question. The media mentioned it, but then shrugged it off. From that time on, CDS was in full force and the gloves came off. It was as if they had all suddenly gone off their meds.

      One more point, of course the sexism we saw was bigotry. It is time we stopped focusing so narrowly on racism and get back to fighting bigotry/prejudice in all its manifestations. Not only is it wrong, it exacts a huge toll in loss of talent, creativity, etc. Who knows how many potential Mozarts, Einsteins, Salks, MLK’s, etc. were never given a chance to develop? It amazes me how rarely this loss is pointed out by liberals.

  • Rich

    I liked this article. Good points.

  • I’m a Linda too

    I did post a comment, but it’s lost under spam. I’ll go email susan now.

  • Chas

    Right on target Chris.

  • HelenS

    Barack Obama will be as bad as george Bush and will not do any better for the country. He is not as smart as people think he is or he thinks he is. Without a speech writer he is lost, he has no ability to think fast on his feet.
    I don’t think that he really wants to be like Lincoln, personally I think he wants to be more like Bill Clinton. I do not see a very happy four years for the country. He is not even President and I am sick of I am already

    • DawnellesTIREDoFpolitics

      I can’t watch him on tv or hear anything about him with out changing the channel in disgust

      almost from the beginning of the primaries he turned sour in my mind and never tried to improve his demeanor

      he’s a nasty hater with many axes to grind
      between his wife and himself
      I think it will be a bumpy 4 yrs (but that will be it)

      I don’t see this fool getting re-elected
      (or course I didn’t see W getting re-elected either, that shocked me)
      Obambi shocks me (all the dirt surrounding him) he’s like that kid on Peanuts

      • http://baddemocrat08.wordpress.com/ obamastolemyboyfriend

        pigpen! I’ll be using thta nickname. It fits for him!

  • politicsIsdirty

    One serious crisis our country faces and you will know what Obama is all about.

    • DawnellesTIREDoFpolitics

      yep

      I see Hillary STILL getting that 3am call

      not Odrama

      (there is some safety in knowing that for me)

  • http://baddemocrat08.wordpress.com obamastolemyboyfriend

    I had bad vibes about Obama from very early on. My first clue to something not right was, what’s the dude’s hurry? Why not back Clinton and vie for VP to get that much needed experience? If there is no good explanation for a sudden rise to power, and there was nothing there to explain it, then there can only be a bad reason. Then the more I checked, the more wrong I found. As things went by and I watched with horror as the Democratic party trampled all over democracy. I am still scared shitless. When something doesn’t seem right, it isn’t right. There is not a chance in hell that Obama is a good guy or cares about this country! Remember he didn’t like flag pins, he doesn’t place his hand over his heart for the star spangled banner, he looks down on people who don’t know how expensive arugala is and he has never served our country militarily or had to worry about his children who are serving! We are screwed. Obama gave signals for the last year, at least, what he is made of and many did not see, but will sadly see in the end. Rue the day, indeed! I pray if we make it through this that people start to vote on character and experience and what really makes a good leader. As I told many an Obot, the country is not in the state it is in today because of Republican issues, it is in the state because of the man, George W. Bush. A democratic platform is only as good as the man behind the action involved. It still makes me ill to think that we had two people’s candidates, Clinton and McCain, 3 if you count Palin. We had 2 do-er candidates, Clinton and McCain, 3 if you count Palin. Yet the voters chose the talker instead!

    Tell the Obots to think about a situation at work. You need a task to get done. It is an important task. One guy just starts talking about what should be done, who should do it and why, etc., without being very specific. Another guy just grabs what he needs to do it, sits down and does it without alot of fanfare. Who do you think will really get it done for you?

    Yep. We should have picked the worker bee, not the party bee!

    I’ll be trying not to say I told you so too much!

    • oowawa

      Yep. We should have picked the worker bee, not the party bee!

      “the party bee.” I believe this little creature is known as the “drone.” Never has to work a day in his life.

      • http://baddemocrat08.wordpress.com obamastolemyboyfriend

        LOL! That’s Odrama. I seriously doubt he can even fake it for 4 years! Even faking it involves going before his adoring fans and having to be watched by Secret Service every minute! If you are as corrupt as I think Odrama is, you probably don’t like being watched!

        • DawnellesTIREDoFpolitics

          ooo good point! ;-)

    • PKJayne

      well said…………if I remember correctly your name was curez something. Kudos to you.

      • http://baddemocrat08.wordpress.com obamastolemyboyfriend

        csuzeq I was. I am thinking of now going with political identity crisis because Obama can have my boyfriend.

    • ipotter

      Love your name! Obama stole my boyfriend too.

      • http://baddemocrat08.wordpress.com/ obamastolemyboyfriend

        Really? I’m sorry! We should go scratch his eyes out. It’s like some fake hussy came by and seduced my man!

        Was your boyfriend a smart guy, too, prior to Obama? I just could not believe my boyfriend fell under the spell. He is usually better at reading people than that!

        • ipotter

          Thought he was intelligent, but it was like he was brainwashed. Sad thing is, there are more of of us out there. It would be interesting to know just how many lost their boyfriends over the election.

          The eye-scratching idea sounds great! Count me in.

  • oowawa

    Signs? For me the most foreboding signs were in the messianic signals he sent to his fans, who responded with adulation akin to religious enthusiasm. “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.” Picture after picture that display him haloed in radiance. Hope! Yes We Can! Huge adoring crowds. Chanting.

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    woooo LOVE it! Great piece! We are in trouble if Obama’s presidency is anything like his candidacy.

    not that the ends justify the means, but i at least hope he pulled all that crap to win, and once in office, will be a good president. BUT i am way too skeptical to think that anyone that can be that dirty will all of a sudden change his tune.

    I look forward to your next article.

  • Karen

    I still wonder how and why all of this happened! I just don’t understand the adulation of all things Obama. Can’t people see how empty and hollow this man is? Can’t they understand that he has no experience for the most difficult job in the world? This should not be some popularity contest. Do his followers really believe he can solve the horrible problems our country faces? Why? Because he spouts off, with a teleprompter, about hope and change? They in for a rude awakening.

    Although I wish Hillary had not take the SOS position, mostly because I don’t trust Obama, watching her this morning I felt incredible pride that this remarkable woman will be the next SOS. She should have been President, but at least we will have her in this powerful position.

    I don’t know what the future will bring, but having Obama does not give me confidence. Having Hillary as SOS does.

    I hope the hope and change veil is lifted soon and people see what a sham Obama is.

  • nationalert

    I’m afraid your comments are much too generous. You have highlighted important signals, but truly it only takes one good one to see the character of the man, just like you only have to verify one malignant cell to verify a tumour.

    We have not yet seen the worst of it, never mind a kinder change from the primaries. Stay tuned.

  • Don X

    Interesting analysis, Chris. Let’s hope he is proves to be a president whose deeds are consistent with his rhetoric. As Bush has shown, you have to have more going for you than charm to be an effective president. Though I was never a fan of Bush, at least he was consistent and predictable. However, my guess is historians will judge his acompishments harshly. Obama has a lot on his plate with the legacy of Bush to deal with, a crashing ecomomy, the mideast situation, Iraq, Afghanistan, national security issues, our bad reputation in much of the world, etc, I am glad we will have Hillary as Sec of State. She has the experience, the intelligence, and the command of the critical isues to help our country regain some international respect. I hope Obama will respect her judgement and not block her diplomtic efforts in the area of international relstions

  • http://www.wegoted.com/dailytake/ trixta

    Excellent piece, Chris Martin! That about sums it up. I too see the rightward tendencies and strategies of Obama–and his similarities to GWB.

  • Patience

    Obama is proving to me on a near-daily basis that he has no abiding principle whatsoever, except for maintaining his political viability.

    One thing I was hoping for was just scuttled by his administrative agenda — he’s hardly proposing anything to improve public transit in this country. So much for all the rhetoric about weaning us from foreign oil dependency.

    AND I’ve had it UP TO HERE with his cheeky invocation of Pres. Lincoln — it’s absolutely galling. I was trying to relax and accept the mother f-er but he’s making it impossible. God help us.

  • AF catfish

    I was for him generally but remembered a profile I read on him in which the journalist noted Barack doodling during the interview, and his doodle was a picture of himself. That nagged at me.

    I wanted him to win Iowa. But after about the third time I saw his victory speech, I was creeped out. Messiah complex, it was visible from that point forward.

    That he’d never been to Europe and never held a subcommittee hearing, that he bought his house with help from Rezko in 2005, laid the foundation even thicker.

  • somerset

    I expect a continued suppression of women, suppression of dissent, and an enormous propaganda machine, glorifying his non-achievements and covering up his lies and fraud. His face will continue to be everywhere, like Hitler and Mao, as he runs for his second and third term now. He is an inadequate malignant narcissist with insatiable needs for attention. He will make all decisions based on dirty politics and slick playing of the game. He will get away with it thanks to his noise machine, larger than anyone can imagine. Watch for monuments, gooey speeches, national holiday, school and airport namings, new head on Mt. Rushmore, “cute Kennedy-like moments” with a kid interrupting a news conference, months spent on the dog…enough to gag a maggot.

    • Patience

      Amen! Given the narcissistic zeitgeist, I suppose we’ve gotten a president for the times.

      Here I go again for yet another 4 more years, having to tune out the POTUS or else suffer nausea.

    • Annie Oakley

      Sad but true. Who brought us Obama and why? What do they want? If Obama gets bad press, it will just be his chain being yanked.

      When I looked at Obama’s record, the post-racial candidate was all about race. He makes speeches about poor people in order to get bigger slices of government pie for his fellow system workers. Whether it was Rev. Wright or Rezko, those who got the new contracts, based on not being white, then kicked backed to Obama’s campaigns, and the whole cycle repeated. There was absolutely nothing new or transformational about it. Just old-school influence peddling.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    This is a sharply written, cogent analysis of the man’s character.

    I’m repeating myself here, because I’ve used this example in other comment threads, but it is a continuation of the say-one-thing-do-another that Chris discusses. It is also an example of his ability to deflect blame and pin it on others.

    Obama came out against seating Burris in the U.S. Senate, and Harry Reid helpfully said more. Once reactions turned negative, Obama did an about-face, but paid no price while Harry Reid was left hanging, and looking rather ridiculous. Further, Harry couldn’t say, “Hell, PEBO told me to do that.”

    Now, if the media were hostile to Obama, as they eventually were to Bush (after giving him a pass for, what, four-plus years), they would have skipped over Harry (or Bush’s Senate leader), and gone straight for Bush’s throat. But Obama gets a pass because the media are so fond of him.

    I wonder if the media will continue to give Obama a pass. What they might do is find ways to criticize him for minor problems — with the intention of feigning honest reporting — while giving him a pass on major errors. I wonder what he’d have to do to cause them to pivot.

    • HARP

      Bingo……You have him pegged perfectly.

      • lark

        “Perfectly” the destruction of our country has begun (Yoda). By 1930 very little will remain.

    • TeakwoodKite

      I wonder what he’d have to do to cause them to pivot..

      A Shield Law?
      AG nominee Holder said to Leahy that he “supported the concept”…

      This answer question is crucial.
      I might rephase it to how does one get a pack of wolves to turn on themselves when there prey is pre-determined?

      • lark

        I’m interested in knowing more about that. Curiosity.

    • FranSC

      Susan, perhaps since this was Chicago shananigans, Harry Reid possibly ‘listened’ to O’s take on it, but I think you are giving BO way too much credit here. What in God’s name could BO ‘tell’ Harry Reid or any of the rest of them? He has no idea what he is doing here and is quite dependent on Reid and Pelosi in particular to navigate him through this landmine.

      And as far as him changing his mind on Burris, he was convinced by those around him that kept saying, “we should be basking in the glorious inauguration of this fabulous man, but instead THIS is what we are talking about?” I think he finally decided he would rather not have a say in the senate seat and have his worshipers back on their knees.

  • Texas Playwright

    Those are not “signals.” Those are FACTS–caucus fraud, DNC corruption, lying about issues, abusing Hillary nonstop, bumbling around in debates, spineless Misogynistic Sexist Media using bho the male chauvinist as an excuse to further abuse Hillary, Wall Street/lobbyists/foreigners pouring multimillions of dirty money into his campaign, etc, etc, etc.

    bho is a ruthless, corrupt, misogynistic FASCIST. He will lie publicly to America and take even more rights from us privately as he bankrupts our country.

    I’m still horrified by the millions of people who didn’t research this fraud before voting.

    • FranSC

      You are so right, Texas Playwright! When you know all of this, how can you ever accept, respect or support a person who is guilty of the fraud, corruption, lying, abuse and endless sexism or stood by while it happened. Hillary decided to accept and support him and has been rewarded with the SoS position. I suppose that is better than being on the outside looking in. But, it is very hard to take as one of her ardent supporters.

      • somerset

        Watch the signals of what they are doing to Sarah Palin, who wouldn’t bend, like Hillary Clinton. She is not invited to the McCain dinner, isolating her in Alaska, the bots are trashing her everywhere on all blogs and on MSM. There is a bipartisan misogynistic crusade to destroy her completely as she poses a real threat politically for 2012. I love the twisted logic: an all-American girl from a modest family of no name and no means, puts herself through school and rises up the ladder through hard work, combining job and family. Huge success: youngest, first female AL governor with highest approval ratings in the country. How dare she run for high office? She is a “dumb c***, stupid, ignorant, ruined McCain’s chances”. If a man did the bootstrap number we would have a statue of his penis in the Washington Mall…oh wait, we are going to get one.

        • Juneaux

          Somerset,

          AL is ALABAMA

          AK is Alaska

        • lark

          combining job and family

          job to Sarah Palin = joy

          So I would edit your statement by inserting in its place, “combining joy and family…”

          Sarah Palin is the only hope we have of saving our country from the destructive force that has just begun to operate; (Bush was THE PREAMBLE) but I think we will prefer destructing it since it is much more exciting, interesting, easy and simple to do.

    • http://ksclematis ksclematis

      “I’m still horrified by the millions of people who didn’t research this fraud before voting.”……

      because they were spellbound by the media and the minions that “mooned” over him! His rhetoric was/is
      basicaly devoid of particular meaning. He’s arrogant by the way he holds his head and his nose is pointing down at all the “little” people, which was very noticible during his and Hillary’s debates, and by the manner in which he treats people according to his agenda. He wasn’t my candidate, and I can’t stand him on TV or anything about him.

  • TeakwoodKite

    Chris Martin, so much signet ignored…

    I recall the issue of impeachment being “off the table” preceding the primaries and a conversation I heard between Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida’s 20th) and Ed Schultz, where Ed was for arguing for impeachment and the Congresswoman was arguing for political expediency stating that there was no time to do this.

    In November of ’07, Senator Leahy had a similar conversation with the talk show host. Out of this faction came BO, and it is no secret that, historically, each new administration is dis-inclined to prosecute the criminal acts of their predecessor.

    That said, I see ZERO chance that BO has the commitment to principles and the Constitution when contrasting “Just words” with his actions and indifference.

    Some folks think this election is “historic” because a “black man” is being elected president. In my opinion it will be historic because of the massive string of fraudulent illeagalities that got BO to the dais.

    Today, someone who was in the “anyone but Clinton” crowd said in response to me asking if he had seen Senator Clintons confirmation testimony, he was disappointed that BO had so many former Clinton people; that he had a hard time seeing that was the change BO was “talking about”.

    Stay tuned…. is all. I am curious if US attorney Patrick Fitzgerald will have a job next week.

    I look forward to your next article.

    • lark

      it will be historic because

      It will be historic because of the way we will be ‘required’ to change. Change into robotic behavior, drone/droid like. ALDI shop smart like.

  • Fairyman

    Obama panders to everyone, there is no there, there.

    But he is telling people he will reform social security.

    And with his Rezko history, I can’t tell you how happy this makes me.

    Oh, brother.

  • CMartin

    There are many, many things to look at WRT Obama. I am primarily interested in the signals from the primary and how that influenced the way I have viewed him since.

    The three things I focused on here are how he is willing to spread lies and use bigotry to trash his opponents and critics. I didn’t even mention that his supporters were spreading the lie about Krugman’s son working for the Clinton campaign (Krugman has no son). That says we should worry about blowback from our criticisms of him. His thwarting of democracy in the primaries suggests that fundamental principles of democracy are not necessarily guiding principles. This ties in to FISA and Gitmo as well as holding Bush accountable. His flip-flopping *within DAYS* on FISA is more ominous than anything I’ve seen so far. I expect changes in views over time, but to do so within days is extraordinary. This suggests what we may see in Obama’s policy positions, and in fact, we already see some of this.

    I wanted to focus here on specific and major issues that provide me a baseline to evaluate Obama. They are not the only signs or maybe even not the most memorable to many. The do speak volumes to what we can expect. As Sam Copeland discussed recently, Obama has been more than willing to throw allies aside when convenient. Who his allies (and appointments) are now does not necessarily give us insight into how he will govern and what he may pursue.

    • FranSC

      Excellent analysis, CMartin. When you speak of his flip-flopping on statements within days is what I was referring to as “what signals?”, meaning, how can you send signals when you have such an erratic history of not sticking with much of what you’ve ever said. As pointed out here, even GWB has been predictable! BO is all over the place. This is not how you become a “Lincoln” or even a Bush.

      • lark

        Even a family of four cannot be managed that way. It will make chaos seem normal.

  • Ted

    The current SCOTUS threshold for a MUST STAY of BHO’s inauguration is not whether he is ultimately determined constitutionally ineligible to be POTUS, merely whether there now is SERIOUS QUESTION on his constitutional eligibility, since any determination of inelligibility AFTER inauguration would pose unnecessary civil and military difficulties.

    • lark

      Definitely a mountain of problems.

      No wonder 12 and a half thousand soldiers will be posted throughout Washington and 60 thousand strong security policy force will patrol the area. I say is the beginning of enforcement of disciplinary citizenry.

      I wonder how all in the far left, left and centrist middle radicals will feel after the show of police force in Washington during the ceremonies. It is me, and I feel like I will be watch 24/7 from now on, and I am only a free-leftover libertarian like eclectic. What about all of those who are ‘left’ free radicals?

  • CG

    Succinct and true… Bravo, Chris Martin.

    Honestly I don’t understand why, after years of Dubya, wouldn’t everyone be just a little more curious, be just a little more skeptical, and not so intellectually lazy, to evaluate the man? Charm simply isn’t enough for thoughtful people, but apparently enough for the masses.

    • CG

      sorry, it should read:

      Charm simply isn’t enough for thoughtful people, but apparently enough for the masses and the media.

      • Strawberrybitch

        Obama is charming?….wasn’t Hannibal Lecter rather charming as well?

    • FranSC

      Charm? I just don’t see it.

      • lark

        He meant ‘charismatic.’ On the verge of being seen as racist, I would say, ‘charismatic to the fact that he seem neither black nor white;’ that seems charismatic enough right now.

  • GBS

    Politics is a messy game and no one has clean hands. The question is how much and what type of dirt we can live with.

    • lark

      Dirt is one thing, intentionally pushing malaise is another.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    I tried to watch Obama on Couric’s interview the other night. I tried, but my slime o meter just kept going off on red level alert.

    Charming? Hardly. The arrogance and slime were just too much to take. Having worked in conjunction with mental health facillities Obama just struck me as of one the those personality disordered hustlers that go through the system.

    How he got through any mental health filters is just amazing..

    • lark

      How he got through any mental health filters is just amazing

      I second that. I cannot understand what just happened and how transparently our system has raised such a ‘personality’ to be ‘preferable’ to any other that does need constant adjustment and justifying.

  • DisenfranchisedVoter

    As a final note, I’ve spent a decent amount of time studying the rise of Movement Conservatives, so many of my thoughts are on how Obama’s inexperience and temperament fit into the plans of the conservative movement, even if Obama does not share their convictions or intentions. In other words, even a well-intentioned person with poor leadership can lead to disaster.

    Well said. I don’t know what the Republicans intentions were in this election but not even the leadership rallied around McCain/Palin the way they usually do around their candidate. My take is that they knew it would be an uphill battle to begin with, the nation is in a mess after 8 years of Bush, and they weren’t looking for a “maverick” like McCain who wouldn’t further their agenda – whatever that might be.

    Honestly, some Republicans might even see Obama as more willing to cave into the right-wing agenda and getting away with it because his supporters won’t hold his feet to the fire. Rick Warren is the ultimate example. If McCain had done such a thing, the left wing would still be up in arms about it and McCain might have ultimately decided not to invite him. However, with Obama, even some of teh gays are getting used to the idea of Warren at the inauguration. The Republicans see this and know that Obama is extraordinary in that he is a ruthless, morally corrupt politician who has fooled his supporters and the media into believing that he is one of most righteous and honest politicians ever to have graced national politics.

    The Republicans are holed up re-branding their image and deciding what they need to do to win in 2012. Never believe that the Republicans have given up. They have been weakened by Bush but as the economy weakens, more people lose their jobs, and Obama betrays his supporters, the Republicans only become stronger. It will be an interesting 4 years both with Obama and how he handles all of these problems as well as what the Republicans do to attack the Democrats and what they will try to do to win in ’10 and ’12.

    • Magic Puzzle Box

      I noticed something odd on the CNN election map on Nov 5th. It showed each state’s vote breakdown, and most states were fairly close, fifty-something to fifty-something or sixty-something to forty-something, by Washington DC was 97 to 3 for Obama! I thought that seemed really strange. As for the “right-wing” hopes for Obama, let me tell you that is so off base that no one paying attention ought to get that idea. Most of them loathe Obama even more than PUMAs do. Maybe so-called “moderate” Republicans see hope in him, but no one aligned with Warren does. Not by any longshot, and the dislike is not feigned by any means.

      • http://baddemocrat08.wordpress.com/ obamastolemyboyfriend

        That map should really be rechecked because there were close states that were called for Obama, but McCain had more votes! I noticed this even a week after the election! I guess once Mccain conceded though, it was over. The grand party in Chicago should have been a signal to us that it was over weeks before it began! They would have never risked that embarrassment if Obama had lost!

        I do have a problem with Obama, other than everything that happened prior to the election. He has been acting like POTUS from day one and I don’t recall ever seeing this before. Suddenly, it is Obama is trying to get those stimulus checks out, Obama is trying to get the rest of the bailout money released, etc. I am not comfortable with him doing these things before he has been sworn in as POTUS! Truly we should be concerned about anything he does now. He has not sworn to uphold the constitution of the US or to protect America and the citizens thereof. It’s not that I really trust his word anyway, of course, but why are we throwing away all of the ceremonies and traditions over this piece of crap??? What then happens when we have a great President someday and they want him pushed out for the new guy! The date of the inauguration is what it is and there is a reason why we don’t swear the new guy in on election night. Why is Obama allowed to break the rules? I just don’t recall having seen this behavior ever! He can turn around and say he never promised to do what was best for the country now, he was not the POTUS yet. i am concerned about this. He is pushing his way, will he ever get out on his own? This is like interviewing someone for a job and then before you’ve hired him, he just sits down at the desk and goes to it, delves into all your company’s business and isn’t even on the payroll yet! That would not be good. Why is it ok for Obama? Why?

  • Clara Barton

    As for the dog, that’s actually another signal. You know darned well he’s going to pick the Portuguese Water Dog cause that’s the same breed that Teddy has. Can you say suck up to be like the Kennedy’s? He has no intention of trying to find one from a shelter or rescue group but says this because it looks good. This man couldn’t think up an idea of his own if his life depended on it. Poor dog.

    • lark

      Sully would have had to pry open the toilet stall to get him out of the toilet before he could assure himself that no one else remained in the cabin of his floating airplane.

  • Cahil

    A good article, but like so many in the msm you don’t mention his use of racism to silence any criticism and critics.

    Also, anyone paying attention would notice that the man lies at the drop of a hat. It’s one thing to embellish as a matter of politics, distasteful though that may be, but it’s another to just flat out lie.

    His moral compass fogged up a long time ago.

  • FembotsForObama

    “The caucus fraud and intimidation, the bullying of Democratic leadership to prevent Hillary from even taking her case to the voters, and the RBC giving delegates earned by Hillary to Barack Obama were similarly ominous. I am very skeptical of a politician and a Party willing to engage in such undemocratic behavior. To me, it speaks to their willingness to ignore fundamental tenants of democracy in order to gain, or retain power.”

    Chris, this is the signal I have the biggest problem with. And not because it was election fraud, which whether we like to admit it or not, occurs in every election and is kind of par for the course (i.e., ballot stuffing), but because it was a lack of democracy done to ITS OWN PARTY MEMBERS. The people who are relied upon to do the work to get the candidate into office, and then to consistently defend said candidate after obtaining the office. There was no way I could do either for Obama knowing what they did to the party just because they wanted the appearance of unity at the convention.

    They shunned democracy for something else, and that concerns me the most, because it IS a precursor to the undermining of democracy when they get power, as you stated. That is what Obama and the democrats represent now, and their proposed banning of the 22nd Amendment, Nancy’s getting rid of the fairness rules which ensure among other things that debate occurs in Congress (enacted by of all people, Newt Gingrich, to ensure minority participation), the attempt to rid closed voting to decide union rep, and the reinstitution of the Fairness Doctrine (which under these DEmocrats scare the pants off me as to how they will use it).

    These aren’t conspiracy theories or presuppositions, this is what they are doing NOW.

    In short, it’s not that I just don’t trust Obama, I don’t trust these Democrats as a whole!!!!! The only few who merit any sense of doing good for US and ensuring Democracy down the road are very few — Kucinich and Feingold come to mind here.

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    there is only one saving grace here.Hillary as S.O.S.
    also he has chosen some good Clinton
    people in the cabinet..

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    Obama is the most arrogant, narcissistic person to ever enter the White House. This will be his downfall ultimately.

    We face bigger problems in America than at any time since the Great Depression – bigger, probably, because if the house of cards completely collapse the country may go bankrupt and split apart.

    Obama, in his arrogance, actually believes that he, with his zero executive experience, can fix this.

    He will not be able to. If anything, he’ll make it worse.

    Many of America’s problems now were not caused by Bush – they were caused by a Wall Street system that has simply become unsustainable and may have become that way regardless of what government had done to regulate it.

    The country will pay for Obama. While I believe most Americans will be somewhat OK, I do think it’s possible we will start seeing bread lines again and massive disruption in our cities before this is through.

    • Annie Oakley

      I loath Bush, but I agree with you that many of our problems were not caused by him. He only represented an apex of a Wall Street-Washington system – one that Washington didn’t try to regulate but rather participated in. The Republicans can take a bow for the Reagan Revolution’s insistence of freeing the market from regulation and freeing the congress from any pretense of being above bribery. The ideal that government serves the people got left out in the cold as Washington congratulated itself on redefining corruption as pragmatism.

      • lark

        Washington congratulated itself on redefining corruption as pragmatism

        Yeap.

  • Sassy

    In hindsight, I felt very uneasy when BO won the caucus in Iowa.
    Bill Clinton always received a roaring reception at the Harkin picnics, and Mrs. Harkin was a dear friend of Hillarys.
    Was that the signal that Hillary would be pushed into the background?
    The Kennedy endorsement was blatant, and I’m sure she knew she was in trouble with the Democratic Party.

  • Jade

    “Unlike many people, I have little interest in predicting what an Obama presidency will be like;”

    It’s funny. Immediately after this sentence, you go on to try to predict what an Obama presidency will be like. Even your title: Signals: What Will an Obama Presidency Be Like? shows how disingenuous your lack of interest is.

    • Tricia Spiegel

      No–He will be watching. He like the rest of us is nervous.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    David Icke, who is by many considered a crackpot because he believes the Illuminati is run by people with reptile blood, dose often get things right. Here’s his searing take on Obama and the plans to use Obama to try to create a one world government (dictatorship):

    http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/18281

    • skinny malinky

      This guy’s website is pretty funny. What on Earth has he gotten right that makes you think he’s remotely credible?

      • http://baddemocrat08.wordpress.com/ obamastolemyboyfriend

        Skinny brain is back. Let’s all ignore her.

        God trolls are so boring!

        • skinny malinky

          Yes, becasue anyone who offers a differing opinion is a troll. God forbid the NQ Party Line isn’t followed.

          • http://baddemocrat08.wordpress.com obamastolemyboyfriend

            Honey bunch, you have identitfied yourself as a troll before so stop trying to pull an Obama!

  • skinny malinky

    (Let’s face it, the sexism we saw was nothing other than bigotry. See this interview with Kathleen Hall Jamieson that explains how the frames used by Obama and Edwards were clearly based on a sexist narrative. Scroll past the initial segment to get to the interview.)

    Wow, what a willful misintepretation of that interview. I read it, and it’s talking about what people on the internet, specifically Facebook, were saying about Clinton. Obama & Edwards’ campaigns aren’t mentioned one time, at least not in the portion discussing the misogyny directed towards Clinton. If you’re going to lie, next time don’t link to something that shows you’re lying. Let me know if you need any more helpful advice.

  • Judy L. NC

    Great article, Chris. Our slide down that slippery slope has begun.

    Susan will be posting sign-up sheets for the NQ I-Told-You-So Choir immediately after the coronation, I mean inauguration…..no, I think I was right the first time.

  • lark

    Nice conversation. I enjoyed it.

  • Patrick Henry

    Well..I Hope its not like a BOX OF CHOCOLATES..!!

    Or liKe The bi Polar ups and downs I have being seeing on Wall.. Street All Moring..

    Kind of Like a Politician on Cyrstal Meth..

    Oh well..hollywood should relate to that.. and god knows fantsy Sells in The United states..

    or as I CALL..Now…THE ALTERED STATES…

    • lark

      or as I CALL..Now…THE ALTERED STATES

      Perfect.

  • Patrick Henry

    However..

    Since all our National fate is in your Hands Barack Obama..We Wish You well…and Hope You do a good Job.. Sincerely..

    • lark

      I tend to shy from that. I wished Bush well but not Obama. Why? Because I believe Obama’s intentions are neither sound nor healthy. So wishing him well from my stand point means wishing his ‘schedule of events and feats’ a landing similar to Sully’s Miracle in the Hudson. I rather wish well those who arise as ‘flaggers.’

  • Beener

    A couple of points on your post:

    1) there has been plenty of critical media stories on Obama. I think it is unfair to say the media clearly favored Obama over Hillary or McCain. Christ, entire talk radio was viciously against Obama. I think Limbaugh even supported Hillary. See these stories on this issue.

    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3612

    http://www.buzzle.com/articles/medias-treatment-of-obama.html

    Blaming the media is a scapegoat and actually bad strategy. It almost always backfires on the one complaining, whether it was Hillary or McCain. If you run a bad campaign, then it is way too easy to say it is the media’s fault.

    2) Obama had little control or little to do with anti-Hillary protestors, just like McCain or Hillary has little to do with the anti-Obama people on this website. Larry Johnson said that Obama basically faked his mother’s illness for political gain. Nice. Should we blame Hillary or McCain for this absolute insane insult. You cite a Bill Moyers interview with Kathleen Hall Jamieson, as some kind of proof that Obama and Edwards were somehow driving a sexist narrative on the Internet. What a joke. Actually Jamieson says nothing in the interview that blames Obama or Edwards for what goes on on the Internet. Obama and Edwards have very little to do with what all kinds of people put on their individual Facebook pages and websites. Here again should we blame Hillary and McCain for all the Obama hatred that has been on No Quarter for the last couple of years. There is no proof that either Obama or Edward’s people were directly involved in putting any BS on Hillary on the web. In fact, Obama made if very clear that he wanted to stay out of the gutter. Obama was compared to Hitler, was called a racist, sexist, a communist…. You name it. There was a much much larger push on the Internet to push conspiracies, hatred, bigotry and falsehoods on the Internet (including on this website) against Obama than there ever was against Hillary and McCain. In fact, it was Clinton campaign that leaked a photo of Obama wearing traditional garb during a visit to Africa. They were the first to try and falsely paint him as a Muslim. Sad. I don’t think there was anything close to this BS that the Obama campaign did to Hillary. In fact, McCain’s people took many of the attacks that originated from Hillary’s people and used it against Obama. A mistake by Hillary to go so negative on Obama, as there was a backlash in the Democratic party of people feeling Hillary went too far and was beginning to hurt not only Obama, but the party.

    “John Norris, who ran Senator John Kerry’s Iowa campaign in 2004 and now serves as an adviser to Obama’s campaign, said that’s what they were banking on. “Barack positioned himself as drawing distinctions with Hillary,” Norris said in an interview. “You don’t want to get too negative — he’s come close to the line but I don’t think he’s gone over it with Iowa voters.” Clinton is “the one who made it personal by calling him naﶥ — that was the first personal attack in the campaign,” Norris said. “It’s not a good position to be in — being forced to go negative in the last month.”

    “The attack will backfire in two ways: it will reinforce the negative stereotype of Mrs. Clinton as a cold and calculating person who will do whatever it takes to win,” said Stephen J. Wayne, a government professor at Georgetown University and author of The Road to the White House. “And two, it will make Mr. Obama seem to be the less shrill and more emotionally mature candidate.”

    Clinton’s harsh new rhetoric has not won much support, either from pundits or other Democrats. “I could see the desire to raise the salience of personal traits — because her strengths are experience and strength of character,” said Stephen Ansolabehere, a political science professor at MIT and author of the book Going Negative. “But her choice surprised me — she might be emphasizing the wrong thing. Given how close this is in the polls, especially a month out, this might be a very risky strategy for her.”

    “This series of slurs doesn’t serve HRC well,” said Robert Reich, former Labor Secretary under Bill Clinton, in a blog post. “It will turn off voters in Iowa, as in the rest of the country. If she’s worried her polls are dropping, this is not the way to build them back up.”

    Perhaps the biggest downside to Clinton’s negative attacks is that the press seems to be focusing on nothing else, at least for the moment. “What’s tough about the stories from this weekend is that they’re telegraphing — they’re more about going negative than the substance of the attacks,” Simmons said. “It underlines the case that Edwards and Obama have been making that she’s practicing politics as usual.” And for Clinton, that kind of an association could be the costliest negative of all.”

    See this: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1690519,00.html

    By the way can you give me an example of a direct quote from either Obama or Edwards where they say that Hillary was “polarizing” and will “say or do anything to win.”??? And if this is all you got, then dude develop a thicker skin as this is politics at the highest level.

    3) No one tried to silence the votes of 2.5 million people in two states. If you are referring to Florida and Michigan those results were hardly fair, as Hillary was the only one with her name on the ballot in one state and Obama did not even campaign in either (while Hillary did campaign in these states). Hardly accurate or fair votes or results. Even if you include both states, Obama would have still won based on delegates or at the very least it would have been close, so you cannot completely say that it was unfair that Obama won. Clearly, Hillary did not get an overwhelming delegate vote that says she was or would have been the clear winner over Obama.

    4) Another sore loser tactic of blaming the loss on fraud or intimidation, as you say. Come on, Hillary had all the cards. She had the Democratic establishment backing her, she had all the money, she had the name recognition, she had a powerful and well liked husband, and this is all you got as to why she lost to Obama. Give us an example of some of this undemocratic behavior that you say that Obama did? What a joke? Hillary had everything and the platform to make her case, and you are saying she lost because of some supposive undemocratic behavior or conspiracy by Obama? She was expected to win in a landslide and had tied up the democratic nomination years ahead of time. So you believe that there was some kind of conspiracy that Obama took all that away from Hillary? Seems like a big stretch.

    5) FISA. I will give you that one, but you know people and politicians are entitled to change their mind and if that is all you got, one example, than you basing your entire view on Obama and his presidency on that is complete BS. I bet we can find a number of times Hillary and McCain had changed their view and action on issues. It is a very long list for McCain. Politicians always have to make choices and they cannot always win everywhere and have to pick the battles. I think Obama was looking at the bigger picture of the national election and not just catering to the left in the primaries. A political calculation that all politicians, including Hillary make. Not the best, but I am not going to discount everything Obama stands for based on just this. Telecom immunity was an iffy issue at best. Is it fair to prosecute the telecom companies for something the Bush administration did? More important to legally challenge the Bush admin directly rather than through the telecos.

    6) If you think “These early signals suggest a temperament that I am personally uncomfortable with, and too similar to the worst in George W. Bush.” then I do not know what world you have been living in the last 8 years. The Bush administration “temperament” was unbelievable. Karl Rove probably more than most has singlehandly been responsible for cheapening our democracy and dividing this country like no other. Bush and his administration were actually responsible for crimes, both in terms of torture, wiretapping and frankly what he has done to the Iraqi people. If you think anything that Obama has done even comes close to Bush then you have just completely discredited yourself. Obama will have to invade a country or two for no reason, lie to the American people about why we are in that war, shred the constitution, fail to help the people in a very large city in a natural disaster, etc. etc. etc before he could even be compared to Bush and his “temperament”.

    7) “he seems content to throw out fundamental tenets of democracy to further his career/agenda”. What kind of ridiculous unsubstantiated generality is that? A powerful statement with no proof.

    8) “even a well-intentioned person with poor leadership can lead to disaster.” I think you are being a little harsh here. Why do you assume Obama has poor leadership and it is pretty hard to create a bigger disaster than this Bush presidency has. I think if Obama has half a brain, as I believe he does, then he will make a hell of a lot better decisions than Bush ever made. However, Obama is handicapped by now having to face the worst economic downturn since the great depression, so his moving the country forward on many of the issues he campaigned on will be much more difficult. If he can keep you and me in a job, that might be just enough to consider his presidency a success.

    You are making judgment based on very little. You are obviously not even going to give Obama a chance, as you have a lot of hatred toward him. Fair. I don’t particularly like McCain, so I am sure I would have been hard on him too if he was elected. Hillary would have been a fine president, but the Clintons already had their 8 years and it was time for a complete change. 20 years of the country being run by only two families was enough. I think Hillary will make a fine Secretary of State.

    I only hope you hold all your politicians, including Hillary and McCain, to the same level of scrutiny that you are holding Obama. I do not think you do, as I can poke a lot of holes in both McCain and Hillary using your same type of Obama scrutiny and logic.

    “Post-election polls consistently show high approval ratings for Obama. In a survey released yesterday by the Washington-based Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, 79 percent of Americans, including 59 percent of Republicans, said they have a favorable impression of the president-elect. Bush’s personal favorability just before he took office in 2001 was 60 percent, and Clinton’s was 69 percent shortly before he was inaugurated in 1993, said Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center.”

  • Patrick Henry

    Wow…Thats the longest list of “A few points” Iever saw..Did you help Write the tax Code..?

  • Patrick Henry

    I think you Qualify for a Job in the Obama Administray BEENER..

    Justice department lawyer..perhaps…

    • Wisewoman

      BEEMER. That is why we know we are in trouble because we have people like you who truly believe your own BS and try to support it by citing other people who have the CDS. I stopped reading about the second paragraph. I don’t know her age but she has no wisdom. I am sorry for the following long post but you can click on the links to see the sources. It is conclusive evidence that Obama is a pathological liar. Please note #s 76, 42, 31, 28, & 18. You might want to copy, paste it to a word file, and save it for future reference.

      Obama’s list of 77 Documented LIES …and still growing
      · 77 Obama’s “Changing World” ad claims he’ll fast-track alternatives to oil to stop us spending money with hostile nations; “fast track” is totally misleading
      · 76 Obama tells Israeli media that he’s a member of the Senate Banking Committee; CNN confirms he’s delusional
      · 75 Obama claims Lou Dobbs has caused hate crimes against Latinos to double; the FBI and CNN prove he’s lying
      · 74 Obama claims the Military Brass think like him; US commanders say Obama’s plan for Iraq is unworkable.
      · 73 Obama promised to filibust FISA; lated voter for it AND now denies changing position
      · 72 Obama belittles Americans claiming we can’t speak European languages; he’s talking merde; mierda; Scheiße
      · 71 Obama denied he accused President Bush of starting the War for political reasons; Russert transcript proves Obama made that false claim
      · 70 Obama claims there has been substantial job losses from NAFTA; Independent studies show its at least” job neutral”
      · 69 Claimed in Feb 08 he got 90% of funds from donors giving $25, $50; fed filings show he got only about a third from donors below $200
      · 68 Obama rewrites history about what specifically he had said during his October 2002 anti-war speech
      · 67 Obama claimed in 04 that he had never supported bringing troops out of Iraq; rare video of 03 Teamsters rally shows he’s lying
      · 66 Obama lied about the softness of the Stock Market to support his false claim the War was being used to distract the public
      · 65 To justify his move to private funds, Obama claims that McCains campaign is” fuelled” by PACs and Lobbyists; its less than 2% of McCains money
      · 64 Obama’s “Dignity” ad claims he “worked his way” thru college and law school; campaign admits only two summer jobs
      · 63 Obama’s “Dignity” ad gives him credit for reducing Welfare rolls by 80%: he’s deceptive as he was opposed to Fed Welfare Reform in ’96
      · 62 In Obama’s The Country I love ad, he takes credit for passing a healthcare bill he did NOT vote for
      · 61 Claims he first ran in Chicago as an unendorsed candidate; his ’96 election questionnaire proves he had several
      · 60 Obama claims he wants a vigorous and open debate on the issues: then goes out of his way to avoid it
      · 59 Obama omits key details about a false rumor re video of Michelle’s “whitey” rant to justify breaking his public funding promise
      · 58 Obama tries to deceive about why he voted “present” more than 100 times in the Illinois Senate; Chicago paper reveals the truth
      · 57 Trying to claim patriotism Obama says his grandad signed up the day after Pearl Harbor; army records disagree
      · 56 Claims race and party not important to how people vote as they put America first; 93% block vote disproves
      · 55 On June 5, Obama stated that Israel must remain undivided; June 6 on CNN he reversed his position
      · 54 To further his own agenda, Obama grossly overstates the number of potential African-American votes in MS, GA, SC
      · 53 Promise of $2500 reduction in Healthcare premiums needs billions in Admin cost savings by 2012: not possible
      · 52 Obama omits to mention his 3 week trip to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan until it slips out trying to out-do Clinton
      · 51 Obama claims McCain wants to wage a lengthy war in Iraq: Video proves Obama’s lying
      · 50 Obama claimed he never prayed in a mosque; his campaign had to retract that statement
      · 49 Obama dishonestly used endorsements in ads to pump up his healthcare plan
      · 48 Claims he never discussed politics with Pastor; rebutted by photo of Obama with team of lobbyists led by Wright
      · 47 Obama, an expert at parsing words, claimed he wasn’t familiar with the word “Clintonian”; then changed his story
      · 46 Despite reeking of cigarettes, Obama denied smoking to ABC; now admits smoking on MSNBC
      · 45 Obama said he’d meet unconditionally with Leader of Iran: now claims he “didn’t have Ahmadinejad in mind”
      · 44 Obama claims he is using public financing to avoid special interests: WSJ nails his switcheroo
      · 43 Obama’s rhetoric claims more young black men in jail than college: BoJ Stats disprove
      · 42 Claims he never said he was a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare; Video proves he did
      · 41 Obama claims remarks to industrialists were greeted with silence, shows he can deliver tough message: video of ovation
      · 40 Obamas claim you dont rip opponents & leave on roadside:he did to Alice Palmer
      · 39 Obama denies saying Indiana could be tie-breaker: he did
      · 38 Obama omits that Pastor Wright led divestiture campaign from Israel
      · 37 Obama claims Church not controversial; he lied since 86
      · 36 Lied about intention of taking US out of NAFTA
      · 35 Obamas claim poverty growing up: both distort reality
      · 34 Obama denies meeting Saddam’s Auchi; sworn Fed. witness places Obama at undisclosed party for Auchi at Rezkos
      · 33 Obama lies about not attacking Clinton over her Bosnia lies
      · 32 Obama claims he passed ethics reform; ABC News shows he lied
      · 31 Obama says he’s consistently opposed NAFTA; in October 2007 he supported expansion to Peru
      · 30 Obama claims he’s above dirty political tricks; Clinton proves he lies
      · 29 Obama claims his “bitter” remarks were mangled; then repeats attacks on guns religion and angry people
      · 28 Obama claims never said he wouldn’t wear US flag-pin; video shows he did
      · 27 Obama says he did no favors for Rezko;untrue; he lobbied for him
      · 26 Changes story repeatedly re Rezko’s help in buying mansion
      · 25 Obama claims he never supported a ban on handguns; he has twice
      · 24 Obama claims stays at UCC as Pastor acknowledged comments were inappropriate; Wright never made this statement
      · 23 Campaign is beholden to “only the people” as unlike McCain/Clinton he does not take lobbyist /PAC money; LIES!
      · 22 Claims campaign never called Canada to say Obama not truthful re wanting leave NAFTA; smoking gun memo proves lied
      · 21 Mrs Obama admits she’s never been proud of America; Video disproves Sen. Obama’s later claim she was misquoted
      · 20 Claimed would not run for President, as he would not be qualified by 2008: confirmed 3 times to Tim Russert in one 2006 interview
      · 19 Claims famous in Il. for not letting lobbyists even buy him lunch; took from teachers, trial lawyers, hospital admins
      · 18 Claims his parents met at Selma civil rights march; Washington Post noted it occurred 4 yrs after Obama’s birth
      · 17 BO claims courageously opposed war in 2002 during US Senate campaign; He did not announce his senate bid until 2003
      · 16 Claims he passes tough Nuclear Law; NYT uncovers he took Nuclear Industry pay-off and watered down the bill
      · 15 Claimed he didn’t know Rezko was corrupt when did a real estate deal with him; Chicago papers prove he lied
      · 14 Claims does not accept money from Big Oil: Real Clear Politics proves he lied
      · 13 Denies using his Hopefund PAC to influence endorsers; but the Washington Post reviewed the record and disagreed
      · 12 Claims his State Chair is not a drug company lobbyist; Time magazine cries Bullshit
      · 11 Lies about how much he received in campaign funds from Rezko; forced to significantly increase the amount twice
      · 10 Claims he did not fill out the 1996 candidate questionaire; Politico proves he lied
      · 9 Took credit for achievement of others in Chicago; resume puffing exposed by LA Times
      · 8 Claims he kept no State Senate records; now he changes his story
      · 7 Denies doubling wife’s salary was due to becoming US Senator; omits within months he earmarked $1 million for hospital
      · 6 Denied meeting Saddam bagman Auchi; now admits he was at his dinner but does not remember talking to him
      · 5 Denies using his church for politics: IRS disagree
      · 4 Claims he was unaware of Pastor Wrights 911 comments: NYT proves he lied
      · 3 Claims his father was a goat-herd; actually he was a man of privilige
      · 2 Claims not an active muslim as child; Indonesian paper proves he lied
      · 1 Claims father linked to Kennedys; Washington Post proves he lied

      • Beener

        Not going to spend my time looking up every single one of these to make sure Obama exactly said as you claim and to make sure stuff is in the proper context, but a lot of these supposive lies sound like a bunch of BS.

        But, I would also like to put both Hillary and McCain under the same exact scrutiny. I am sure we could have a very long list of stuff too. Probably a hell of a lot longer for McCain.

        • Ferd Berfle

          Not going to spend my time looking up every single one of these to make sure Obama exactly said as you claim and to make sure stuff is in the proper context, but a lot of these supposive lies sound like a bunch of BS.

          So you are intellectually lazy and just make stuff up when you post. Just another Obamabot.

          But, I would also like to put both Hillary and McCain under the same exact scrutiny. I am sure we could have a very long list of stuff too. Probably a hell of a lot longer for McCain.

          Try putting your non-vetted False Messiah under the scrutiny HRC has undergone inthe last 18 years, Goober. *Really* just another obamabot.

          Go lower the collective IQ over at HuffPo, would you?

        • Ferd Berfle

          But, I would also like to put both Hillary and McCain under the same exact scrutiny.

          Same exact. LMAO

          Would you like a big large Kool-Aide, too.

        • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

          Perhaps if more people who voted for Obama actually took the time to read about all of his lies, they wouldn’t have voted for him.

          http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/05/documented-lie-50-obama-claimed-he-had.html

          http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/

          http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1996491/posts

  • Wisewoman

    WILLTRY WITH A FEW TO SEE IF EACH WILL POST AS LINKS.

    · 77 Obama’s “Changing World” ad claims he’ll fast-track alternatives to oil to stop us spending money with hostile nations; “fast track” is totally misleading

    · 76 Obama tells Israeli media that he’s a member of the Senate Banking Committee; CNN confirms he’s delusional

    · 75 Obama claims Lou Dobbs has caused hate crimes against Latinos to double; the FBI and CNN prove he’s lying

    · 74 Obama claims the Military Brass think like him; US commanders say Obama’s plan for Iraq is unworkable.

    · 73 Obama promised to filibust FISA; lated voter for it AND now denies changing position

    · 72 Obama belittles Americans claiming we can’t speak European languages; he’s talking merde; mierda; Scheiße

    ·

  • Wisewoman

    SORRY NO CAN DO. I WOULD HAVE TO COPY EACH LINK INDIVIDUALLY.

  • Wisewoman

    Those interested click on or type in the following link, then click on documented lies. I think they are up to 158 at this time.

    http://www.obamawtf.blogspot.com

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