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Hamas and Iran

(bumped up from Thursday early afternoon)

From Pat Lang’s blog, Sic Semper Tyrannis. Pat’s bio is below. UPDATE: Corrected to include full text.
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flag-symbolI have been asked to explain for the general public how it is that Hamas ("The Movement for Islamic Resistance"), A Sunni Muslim organization has come to be supported by the Shia theocracy in Iran.  How this happened will be well known to many readers here, but not to others.  Naturally the comments and interventions of Muslims and specialists will be welcome.

Some thoughts:

- The bar between Sunni and Shia Islam has never been as high as it seems to outsiders unfamiliar with Islamic history and the religious sciences.  These two forms of the faith have existed in uneasy but endurable coexistence since the rise of Shiism as a different understanding of the meaning of the Quranic revelation.

In the first centuries of Islam there were many possible interpretations of Islam.  Sufism, Kharaji separatism, Mu'tazilism, etc.  These and many more contesting forms of Islam existed then and somehow managed to survive in mutual but not terminal animosity.

  As I have often insisted, Islam is an endlessly fractious religio-political conception.  This is inherent in the faith because of the very way in which Sharia law is derived from scripture, practice and tradition and then accepted by bodies of believers through the process of religiousus consensus called in Arabic Ijma'.  This process continues today with every large or small consensus group believing itself to be practicing true Islam.  I will restrain myself from discussing Sufism here in the interest of general readability.

- Nearly all these consensus groups share the notion that it is the duty of true Muslims to defend the world-wide community of believers (Muslims) against the attacks of outsiders.  Islam aspires to an end of days scenario in which all people will be Muslims. 

Many of the Islamic consensus groups that I have mentioned above have believed that it is their particular destiny as true Muslims to be the rulers of this  community of believers.  The community is called the 'Umma in Arabic. 

Such ambition has usually been wildly fantasist in the clear inability of the groups to achieve a consensus of Muslims regarding leadership, but the groups aspire to this leadership nononetheless. 

This aspiration on the part of the takfiri jihadis networked together into what is "shorthanded" as al-Qa'ida enabled the egregious neocon propaganda concerning the imminent and threatening rise of a new Islamic state called "The Caliphate." 

The pseudo threat posed by "The Caliphate" was claimed to be as great as that posed by the Soviet Union in the Cold War or Nazi Germany.  A passing knowledge of Islamic history would reveal to all who cared to know that Islamic unity has been an unattainable goal for many, many centuries.  Regrettably, many honest but uninformed people were deceived by this propaganda ploy on the part of the Bush Administration and their neocon friends.

- Nevertheless, in defense of the shining image of the 'Umma and the belief in a spiritual duty to defend this supposed manifestation of God's will on earth, Muslims and predominatly Muslim states feel a deep obligation to defend fellow Muslims against non-Muslim enemies who can be seen as equivalent to the gathering of enemies who attacked the early community of Muslims in the time of the Prophet. 

In that spirit, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the "Supreme Guide" of Iran made a speech in December in which he firmly associated the Iranian Islamic Republic with Hamas.  The bottom line on the Shia/Sunni thing in the context of external attack – Muslims must be defended against non-Muslim and presumably anti-Muslim enemies.  Sectarian difference does not matter in this context.

- Against these religious considerations, Iran must weigh its state interests in a world in which there is no 'Umma except as an abstraction.  Iran wants an improvement in relations with the United States.  The Saudis do not want this any more than the Israelis do.  Any such rapprochment would diminish the ability of Saudi Arabia and Israel to manipulate public opinion and politicians in the United States to their continuing benefit. 

If there were such an improvement in US/Iranian relations, Iran would have a profound conflict of interests to deal with.  This is a problem for Hamas and indeed for Hizbullah which lurks below the horizon in the future of a possibly, but improbably changed US foreign policy in the Middle East, i.e., one that treats Israel as a foreign country like all other foreign countries.

- The recent "statement" by someone claiming to be Usama bin Laden is an interesting phenomenon.  As the cognoscenti know, the particular views of his "brand" of Muslims do not permit the acceptance of national, ethnic or other such distinctions among God's subjects.  Nevertheless, Usama seems to have chosen to back this PALESTINIAN Islamic movement.  Hamas should be wary of this lest a takfiri presence and influence lead to the attempt at imposition of norms that occurred in western Iraq.

I bid you all welcome, let the comments begin—  pl

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Ed. Note: As Larry Johnson wrote about Pat Lang’s other recent post on “Israel’s Gaza Misadventure,” “Pat Lang is a dear friend and a brilliant scholar. He established the Arabic program at West Point, he headed up the Defense Intelligence Agency’s Middle East Division in the 1989-1991 timeframe, and he fought in combat in Vietnam. He is steeped in both politics and military strategies and tactics. When he writes (or speaks) one ought to listen.” Pat’s thought-provoking blog is Sic Semper Tyrannis, and includes his biography.

  • HARP

    Until Islam discovers that you can not shake hands with a clenched fist, nothing will change.

  • IndyRobin

    Thanks so much for your on-going effort to educate this community.

    If true, this is good News … its a start

    The Pentagon has suspended the delivery of a shipload of munitions to Israel after international concern that it could be used by Israeli forces in Gaza.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/15/pentagon-munitions-israel-gaza

    • Kanga Jin

      Thanks for the update, Indy.

      • IndyRobin

        Welcome :)

    • mountainaires

      Now, that is good news. It proves that international condemnation can actually work–maybe.

      As to the Sunni-Shia/Iran-Hamas connection, I always figured it was just a situation of “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” kind of a thing. So, many thanks to Pat Lang for his expertise.

      I’m so glad NQ has continued to address the Middle East, and in particular the Israeli/Palestinian issue. I feel passionately about it, and have for decades.

      Thanks IndyRobin, for that good news.

  • Kanga Jin

    If there were such an improvement in US/Iranian relations, Iran would have a profound conflict of interests to deal with. This is a problem for Hamas and indeed for Hizbullah which lurks below the horizon in the future of a possibly, but improbably changed US foreign policy in the Middle East, i.e., one that treats Israel as a foreign country like all other foreign countries.

    What would the greater implications be, then, if this in fact were to happen, the US diplomatically engaged with Iran?

  • Mercedes

    I am not familiar with Islam in an academic sense, but I have worked with a number of Muslims from the Middle East, Pakistan, Bangledesh, and Indonesia. As far as I could tell these people did not conduct themselves in a way that would suggest that they were obsesssed or even remotely influenced by the religious notions described here. Being in this country, they were certainly not typical Muslims. But their very rational, adaptable behavior leads me to conclude that Islamic fundamentalists are motivated along the same lines as Christian fundamentalists and Zionist Jews. How can anyone expect any kind of peace with these groups mixing it up? My big question is…what are these fanatics doing running the world? And my HOPE is that if Obama’s supporters’ real intentions are to neutralize the extremists with the Great multi-racial, multi-religious Barack Obama, then I would HOPE (again) that they lay their cards on the table and don’t go sneaking around trying to manipulate everybody.

    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      What do you mean, Mercedes, by asking Obama’s supporters to lay their cards on the table and the part about manipulating? (I’m asking purely out of curiosity.)

      Btw, I found this part of Pat’s explanation especially important:

      Against these religious considerations, Iran must weigh its state interests in a world in which there is no ‘Umma except as an abstraction. Iran wants an improvement in relations with the United States. The Saudis do not want this any more than the Israelis do. Any such rapprochment would diminish the ability of Saudi Arabia and Israel to manipulate public opinion and politicians in the United States to their continuing benefit. If there were such an improvement in US/Iranian relations, Iran would have a profound conflict of interests to deal with.

      This is why, best I can discern, there has never been any true success at resolving the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.

      It is NOT in the interests of the Saudis et al. to have a peaceful resolution.

      What is Israel’s motive? This I do not understand. Could it be something so cold as to wish for worldwide sympathy and aid from foreign countries and Jews? Is it to keep getting the huge largesse from the U.S. government? I just don’t get it.

      • IndyRobin

        Susan … have you ever considered this? Not sure if it is completly true but wouln’t be surprised.

        So what is the endgame in Gaza?
        Two factors that are not being talked about much, but have figured prominently in the Israeli calculus are: natural gas and the upcoming elections to the Israeli Knesset, their parliament.

        Gaza is a small strip of land on the Mediterranean Sea. Its territorial waters extend to about 35km off the coast. In 1999, the oil firm BG International discovered a huge deposit of natural gas 32km from the Gaza coast. The Gaza Marine gas field contains 1.2 trillion cubic feet of gas valued at over $4 billion. As per the Oslo peace accords, which created Gaza, Israel has security control over air and water around Gaza. So, it wrangled a deal with BG to get access to Gaza Marine gas at cheap rates.

        But before the deal could go through, Hamas won the elections to the Palestinian Legislative Council in 2006. This sparked off a bitter power struggle between Hamas and the pro-west Fatah. Ultimately, the Palestinian Authority split in 2007, with Hamas taking control of Gaza and Fatah taking control of West Bank. One of the first things that Hamas did after getting elected was to declare that the natural gas deal would have to be renegotiated.

        Then began the Israeli blockade of Gaza, which prevented much required food and medicines from reaching the hapless Gazans. Crammed into about 360 sq km, 1.5 million Gazans saw their lives crumble into dust. To get food and medicines, Gazans built tunnels under the Israeli barriers, and once even broke through on the Egyptian side. But the Israeli and Egyptian army tamped them down.

        It appears that the current Israeli move is to try and turn the Gazans against Hamas, paving the way for a more pliable administration, so that the gas deal will go through. Reports from Israel indicate that preparations for this attack were underway since several months ago, with the ceasefire offered by Israel being just a ploy to lull Hamas.

        via:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Gas_deal_coming_polls_behind_military_operations_in_Gaza/articleshow/3935036.cms

      • mountainaires

        Some analysts have posited the theory that the Israelis weighed their options and decided to do this to send a strong message to Barack Obama–just in case he may have some idea of coming in with justice and fairness on his mind.

        I have no idea WHY Israel did this. But very credible and knowledgeable journalists–who live in the Palestinian Territories–have said that Israel planned this for 18 months.

        So, I tend to think that IndyRobin’s suggestion that it has something to do with the gas resources is a more bankable bet.

      • Kanga Jin

        What is Israel’s motive?

        That might reveal some very ugly truths about some of those who govern Israel.

        And that doesn’t in anyway to excuse those who deliberately WANT to harm Jewish people, just as their behavior doesn’t excuse Israeli hate.

        Maybe we need to take a look at it.

        Rscism, too, maybe…

    • Mercedes

      I meant basically that Obama is a front man for somebody…I don’t know who. I read Webster Tarpley’s book on Obama, the Manchurian Candidate, which is the best explanation I have come across so far of the forces behind his candidacy. I haven’t seen any good explanations anywhere for why the Democratic leadership supported this man over Hillary or what influenced Obama to name Hillary SOS. All of this is probably politics as usual, but unless these power brokers have some clear agenda we’re not going anywhere. And if they have an agenda, they had better spell it out clearly if they expect any popular support. That, in my opinion, constitutes REAL CHANGE. I am not optimistic about the Obama administration’s ability to do any of this because of the illegitimate, fraudulent, manipulative, surley manner in which Obama conducted his campaign and captured the Democratic nomination.

  • BARB

    From:www.theNation.com:

    Grieving Over Gaza
    Comment

    By Anat Biletzki

    January 14, 2009

    Anat Biletzki: Some of us, as Israelis, are grieving over what we have become. Blaming the other side with a roster of rehearsed clichés cannot mitigate the grief.

    In the past two-and-a-half weeks Israeli forces have killed over 900 people in Gaza; Palestinian rockets have killed four Israelis and Palestinian fighters have killed six soldiers. As the assault began, Bibi Netanyahu, the leader of Israel’s definitive right-wing party, Likud, said that talk of comparative numbers is not pertinent to the validity of Operation Cast Lead. That might be true, but the grotesque proportions of one to one hundred in counting the dead should give us pause, should make us reflect on the mantras of the conventional wisdom.

    • Kanga Jin

      You know, I will gladly donate money to those groups who see this as an issue of human rights.

      Because it is, and I’m hoping the REST of Israeli, as well as the rest of the American Jewish people are heard, loud and clear, able to reclaim their government.

    • pete kneeland

      Anat…The ratio of 1 to 100 is only the result. It was not planned. Hamas could have stopped the rockets, but chose not to so as to bait an Israeli response. The continued “education” of Gaza youth of hatred of the Jews will foment this violence for eternity. Education should not be used to bring death and destruction to innocent people.

  • http://Godhelpusall lee M

    IMO, one reason Bush preached “Islamic Unity” had to do with the influence of Henry Paulson and Neel Kashkari. Their desire to bring the Saudi oil money to the U.S. banks is so rabid that they had a seminar in the Treasury Dept. entitled “Islamic Finance 101″. Their plan would introduce Sharia law in America. We’ve seen what that little exercise has done in the U.K., do we want that in America?

    Saudi Arabia investment in America is very much desired by Bush and Co. and the fact that he is now out of office doesn’t change things that much. The long arm of Henry Paulson will still reach into treasury through Timothy Geithner.

    The Archbishop of Canterbury has condoned the archaic practices of Sharia Law in Britain and innocent muslims who immigrated to Britain for freedom now are under the rule of the Imams in regards to family crimes.

    If U.S. banks accepted Saudi oil money, any loan or financial transaction that involved that money would be subject to Sharia Law. This is one avenue to all this global money monkeyshines that we had better well aware of.

    Treasury has a web site “Islamic Finance 101″. Go there and see what I mean. They cover up the real danger of Sharia law, but ask the innocent muslims in Britain who are subjected to Sharia family courts.

    This plan by Bush, Paulson and Kashkari opens the back door to Sharia Law in the U.S. If Obama is swept along with this tide we could see the same thing in America. It is an insidious way to give Sharia Law an entry into American life.

    • http://Godhelpusall lee M

      It seems they have already opened up one such Islamic bank in Ann Arbor Michigan. The University Islamic Financial. Sharia compliant deposit accts.
      I haven’t read the whole blurb yet, but Sharia Law says that if you deal with these banks your transactions are subject to Sharia Law. This means any transaction. Be it a loan or whatever. I would hope any person would research Sharia Finance Law befor getting involved with this bank.

      Students at the University of Michigan – Ann Arbor -are likely targets of this undertaking.

      This whole movement scares me to death.

  • stodgie

    i was just at my bank and a young muslim lady helped me. i found her to be pleasant, smart and very concerned about doing a good job. we have the extremeist among us for sure but i think the great majority want to live happy useful lives like most of our neighbors.

    • mountainaires

      Stodgie, thanks so much for sharing your experience that Muslims are ‘pleasant’ and ‘smart.’

      That’s so great to hear~ ;-)

  • MG

    Be aware of wolf in sheep’s clothing? I think that is how it goes.
    We have laws in this country and we have The Constitution.
    Why are we allowing Islamics to impose their way of life on us.
    If we were to live in Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc… we would be subjected to their laws (watch out women their goes your rights), The freedom of worship in whatever form would be punishable by Death (The B’hai’s Faithful are being prosecuted as well as the Christians.
    Honor killings are ramped and… I could go on but…
    I went for a run with a friend from Pakistan and asked her opinion. She said she had left her country to be free and not have it chase her here. She added if she believed in sharia and wanted that life style she would have stayed home in Pakistan.

    • JulieD

      Insightful woman – your running partner. Of course, she has first hand experience and knowledge.

      I typically side with the people who
      DON’T
      treat their women and children like chattel.

      The 5th Century – not my favorite. Veils, burqas- blow.

      • MG

        she told me one more thing that left me cold:
        If the America falls where do we run to?
        Needless to say, we stop running and walked home.
        We talked some more and she ended with saying we must all fight now to prevent this country from falling.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    Iran backs Hamas because backing any group that is virulently anti-israel and anti-america is a popular thing to do over there. if their support was going to cause them problems among the iranian people, do you think they’d do it? probably not. Mr. Lang finally got something right when he said that sectarian differences are set aside when it comes to muslims fighting “the enemy,” i.e. israel and america.

    • Kanga Jin

      Actually, I think he’s been right all along.

      But then, he has the chops, right?

  • BernieO

    The vast majority of Muslims around the world – and there are millions of them – are not radical or bent on controlling the world. The fact that they are obligated to “defend the faith” is not odd. While fundmentalists may interpret that to mean using violence, the vast majority interpret it the way Christians who deem themselves “defenders of the faith do”. (The Catholic fraternity the Knights of Columbus are often referred to as “defenders of the faith” but I have never known them to try to overthrow anyone. The obnoxious, but non-violent, William Donohue is often referred to that way.)

    As for Islam having a problem reaching consensus this is also true of Christianity, which also had many sects in the early years. Thought it was then consolidated for centuries it was under the umbrella of one church, but since the Reformation there has no consensus about the religion. For centuries Christians engaged in horrific violence and repression against other Christian groups as well as Jews and Muslims, just as radical Muslims do today. Yet most people do not condemn all Christians.

    When Islam was first established it was very progressive for its time. Mohammed was a champion of women, even granting them rights such as the right to divorce, own and inherit property. He strongly condemned the common practice of female infanticide.

    After the fall of the Roman Empire, Muslims created a vast, highly civilized empire that lasted hundreds of years, something few of us were ever taught in school. This was at the same time the Christian world was languishing in the Dark Ages. Anyone who has visited the Al Hambra in Spain has seen the beautiful architecture they created. The Moors, as they were called, practiced religious tolerance and had a diverse, vibrant society. In addition they studied and preserved the knowledge of classical cultures such as the Greeks and Romans. They made important contributions to mathematics, giving us arabic numerals (vastly superior to those used by the Roman empire), algebra, and trigonometry. Science and medicine were emphasized. Moorish cities had running water, paved streets and streetlights.

    The revival of Europe during the Renaissance owed a lot to the rediscovery of the knowledge that had been preserved and developed in the Muslim world. (I was always told the Europeans rediscovered the knowledge of the classical world, but was never told how.)

    http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/religion/2008/04/07/the-short-lived-romance-of-muslim-spain.html

    http://www.pbs.org/empires/islam/innoalgebra.html

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,971592,00.html

    The radical fundamentalists that most of us equate with Islam is extremely misleading. Just like Christianity, at its best it is a very complex, sophisticated religion.

    • Kanga Jin

      Of all this, how much is due to poverty?

      None of the nations fermenting this extremism offer alternatives or opportunity– the wealthy rule with an iron fist, religion a method of control, corruption a way of life.

    • IndyRobin

      Thanks so much for the history lesson BernieO. It is the primary reason that Larry and Susan’s site stands out. This wonderful ability for people to actually share their knowledge and learn something when you come here,

    • MG

      Your right Islam at one time was very progressive but you forgot to mention it stop being progressive and fell into their own dark age (Just like the Christians).
      When religion dictates all reason and science were thrown out in the name of G-d.
      Radicalism stop progressive growth b/c it was seen as evil. Hence, why women are being treated with such disdain/indifference and intolerance grew b/c of this radicalism. The prosecution of those in Iran that no one cares about (B’ahi, Christians and Yes, Jewish Iranian Folk). How about the Gays! You know President of Iran said there were no Gays in Iran and if they were, pls tell him where they could find them. What about the gay men that were rounded up in Saudi Arabia?

    • stodgie

      the problem along with the great majority of muslims wanting to just live their lives there are enough extremeists to ruin it for everyone. and that is where our influence and might must apply. bush really screwed up there with iraq. police actions and not the use of military would have been more appropriate. i am sure larry can speak to that with more authority than me.

  • http://theheraclitanfire.blogspot.com/ Craig Della Penna

    Pat:

    Thank you for this information on Islam, the positions of the various sects regarding the Caliphate is interesting vis a vis the positions of the various Christin=an sects regarding their proximity to the throne after the Second Coming.

    But…

    While valiantly describing the requirements of Muslims to defend the faith, you have not said a word about the instructions of Muslims in how to deal with Jews and ‘infidels’, which appears to mean anyone who in not a Muslim.

    I think you that, in order to present a complete picture, you will have to visit the dark side of Islam as well.

    • stodgie

      yes the thing that bothers me often is the lack of presenting both sides of the picture. thanks craig for pointing that out.

  • Mawm

    Most of the Muslim countries in the Middle East are just plain evil. Iran regularly murders gay people in public executions. For all the supposed support they have for the Palestinians, the real purpose of Hamas and Hezbollah is to fight Israel, the only Democracy in the Middle East, and our only real ally there. Ask Egyptians or Jordanians what they really think about the Palestinians, and they will tell you they hate them. Neither one wants to even open their borders to them, even when Israeli rockets are raining down on Gaza.
    Treating Israel as just “another foreign country” would be the biggest mistake. It amounts to appeasing the enemy, and would send a signal of weakness to all the other Muslim countries that are just waiting to drive a wedge between Israel and the US.
    We will never and should never legitimize regimes such as Iran until they make fundmental changes to their Human rights and Foreign policies, and until that happens anyone trying to make Israel into the culprit in this continuing assault on its existence is a traitor in my mind.

  • Doc99

    Hamas Iran Unit wiped out.

    Palestinian sources reported Thursday that the “Iranian Unit” of Hamas, members of the group’s military wing trained by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, had been destroyed.

    The hatred in Gaza is such that even Snake Plisken couldn’t win there. As Golda Meier once said, “Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children
    more than they hate us.”

    • MG

      Amen to that!

  • jack macy

    Sharia banking has been in this country for some time. Freddie Mac had a program for Muslims back in 2001:

    http://www.ired.com/news/2001/0109/muslim.htm

  • MG

    I wonder if I could open just a regular bank in the middles east like… lets say in Iran or Saudi Arabia? ;-]

  • Cahil

    So, in other words, sectarian violence is put aside to defeat the infidels but it’s back on, as in Iraq, when it comes to power and money grubbing.

  • IndyRobin

    “Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children
    more than they hate us.”

    No …peace will come when Israel recognizes that they are no more “the chosen ones” than any other “Child of God” including Muslim children.

    Ethnocentrism is the breeding ground for all hate.

    • stodgie

      and a one sided view blaming just one side won’t bring peace either. i don’t say israel is right here, i just say that hamas is wrong ALSO. and they were elected. who elected them? doesn’t some responsiblity belong with them. when the people of israel elect the right wingers, we blame them so likewise so do the people of gaza should some blame here. the blame needs to be spread around. if you try and just blame one side, there will never be peace based on that.

    • MG

      Aaaaah, I think extremist Muslims also believe that the only way to G-d is thru Islam. All must convert to Islam. By the way the Christians believe the same thing. The Jews, Buddhists, B’ahai, Hindu, etc…don’t believe you have to belong to their exclusive club to make it to heaven or find enlightenment.

  • Steven

    MG – I’m glad my religion is entering the stream of comments – but let’s get the spelling right. It’s not “B’hai” or “B’ahai”. It’s “the Baha’i Faith” or “Baha’is”.

    B a h a ‘ i

    There are accents but outside of wikipedia they are rarely seen on the internet. The full form, if it renders in your browsers, would “Bahá’í Faith” or “Bahá’ís” and so on for various names of the Central Figures of our religion.

    As for the general thrust of the discussion… First I’ll throw out a “me too” for BernieO’s comments about the gifts Islam has given us. Then I’d say there are several books covering this kind of material. The oldest one I know of was written circa 1963 when Stanwood Cobb wrote Islamic Contributions to Civilization There is an earlier work The Real Turk, ISBN B000NUP6SI, but it’s harder to find and more particular to Turkey but written 1914.