Comments on: Hamas and Iran

By: Steven

Steven — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:51:50 +0000

MG – I’m glad my religion is entering the stream of comments – but let’s get the spelling right. It’s not “B’hai” or “B’ahai”. It’s “the Baha’i Faith” or “Baha’is”.

B a h a ‘ i

There are accents but outside of wikipedia they are rarely seen on the internet. The full form, if it renders in your browsers, would “Bahá’í Faith” or “Bahá’ís” and so on for various names of the Central Figures of our religion.

As for the general thrust of the discussion… First I’ll throw out a “me too” for BernieO’s comments about the gifts Islam has given us. Then I’d say there are several books covering this kind of material. The oldest one I know of was written circa 1963 when Stanwood Cobb wrote Islamic Contributions to Civilization There is an earlier work The Real Turk, ISBN B000NUP6SI, but it’s harder to find and more particular to Turkey but written 1914.

By: MG

MG — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:48:58 +0000

Aaaaah, I think extremist Muslims also believe that the only way to G-d is thru Islam. All must convert to Islam. By the way the Christians believe the same thing. The Jews, Buddhists, B’ahai, Hindu, etc…don’t believe you have to belong to their exclusive club to make it to heaven or find enlightenment.

By: stodgie

stodgie — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:37:30 +0000

and a one sided view blaming just one side won’t bring peace either. i don’t say israel is right here, i just say that hamas is wrong ALSO. and they were elected. who elected them? doesn’t some responsiblity belong with them. when the people of israel elect the right wingers, we blame them so likewise so do the people of gaza should some blame here. the blame needs to be spread around. if you try and just blame one side, there will never be peace based on that.

By: stodgie

stodgie — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:31:23 +0000

yes the thing that bothers me often is the lack of presenting both sides of the picture. thanks craig for pointing that out.

By: stodgie

stodgie — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:29:57 +0000

the problem along with the great majority of muslims wanting to just live their lives there are enough extremeists to ruin it for everyone. and that is where our influence and might must apply. bush really screwed up there with iraq. police actions and not the use of military would have been more appropriate. i am sure larry can speak to that with more authority than me.

By: IndyRobin

IndyRobin — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:14:46 +0000

“Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children
more than they hate us.”

No …peace will come when Israel recognizes that they are no more “the chosen ones” than any other “Child of God” including Muslim children.

Ethnocentrism is the breeding ground for all hate.

By: pete kneeland

pete kneeland — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:59:11 +0000

Anat…The ratio of 1 to 100 is only the result. It was not planned. Hamas could have stopped the rockets, but chose not to so as to bait an Israeli response. The continued “education” of Gaza youth of hatred of the Jews will foment this violence for eternity. Education should not be used to bring death and destruction to innocent people.

By: Cahil

Cahil — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:52:15 +0000

So, in other words, sectarian violence is put aside to defeat the infidels but it’s back on, as in Iraq, when it comes to power and money grubbing.

By: MG

MG — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:32:05 +0000

I wonder if I could open just a regular bank in the middles east like… lets say in Iran or Saudi Arabia? ;-]

By: MG

MG — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:16:10 +0000

Amen to that!

By: MG

MG — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:13:11 +0000

she told me one more thing that left me cold:
If the America falls where do we run to?
Needless to say, we stop running and walked home.
We talked some more and she ended with saying we must all fight now to prevent this country from falling.

By: MG

MG — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:06:57 +0000

Your right Islam at one time was very progressive but you forgot to mention it stop being progressive and fell into their own dark age (Just like the Christians).
When religion dictates all reason and science were thrown out in the name of G-d.
Radicalism stop progressive growth b/c it was seen as evil. Hence, why women are being treated with such disdain/indifference and intolerance grew b/c of this radicalism. The prosecution of those in Iran that no one cares about (B’ahi, Christians and Yes, Jewish Iranian Folk). How about the Gays! You know President of Iran said there were no Gays in Iran and if they were, pls tell him where they could find them. What about the gay men that were rounded up in Saudi Arabia?

By: jack macy

jack macy — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:59:42 +0000

Sharia banking has been in this country for some time. Freddie Mac had a program for Muslims back in 2001:

http://www.ired.com/news/2001/0109/muslim.htm

By: Mercedes

Mercedes — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:04:54 +0000

I meant basically that Obama is a front man for somebody…I don’t know who. I read Webster Tarpley’s book on Obama, the Manchurian Candidate, which is the best explanation I have come across so far of the forces behind his candidacy. I haven’t seen any good explanations anywhere for why the Democratic leadership supported this man over Hillary or what influenced Obama to name Hillary SOS. All of this is probably politics as usual, but unless these power brokers have some clear agenda we’re not going anywhere. And if they have an agenda, they had better spell it out clearly if they expect any popular support. That, in my opinion, constitutes REAL CHANGE. I am not optimistic about the Obama administration’s ability to do any of this because of the illegitimate, fraudulent, manipulative, surley manner in which Obama conducted his campaign and captured the Democratic nomination.

By: Doc99

Doc99 — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:03:50 +0000

Hamas Iran Unit wiped out.

Palestinian sources reported Thursday that the “Iranian Unit” of Hamas, members of the group’s military wing trained by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, had been destroyed.

The hatred in Gaza is such that even Snake Plisken couldn’t win there. As Golda Meier once said, “Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children
more than they hate us.”