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		<title>By: VinceP1974</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/11349/obama-favreau-and-hillary-at-state/#comment-1128436</link>
		<dc:creator>VinceP1974</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but when I was 27 I one thing is for sure..if I was one of the Presidential candidate&#039;s Rasputin, I wouldn&#039;t be molesting cardboard cutouts of a First Lady, and past challenger.

It just shows how much crassness and immaturity has taken root.  This is  a very reckless administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but when I was 27 I one thing is for sure..if I was one of the Presidential candidate&#8217;s Rasputin, I wouldn&#8217;t be molesting cardboard cutouts of a First Lady, and past challenger.</p>
<p>It just shows how much crassness and immaturity has taken root.  This is  a very reckless administration.</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/11349/obama-favreau-and-hillary-at-state/#comment-1128197</link>
		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Biden&#039;s spokesperson said he was never offered the position of SoS. Do you think it&#039;s possible this was a discussion which occurred only between Jill and Joe Biden. It seemed Obama&#039;s people were taken off guard, but when they responded they denied it ever happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Biden&#8217;s spokesperson said he was never offered the position of SoS. Do you think it&#8217;s possible this was a discussion which occurred only between Jill and Joe Biden. It seemed Obama&#8217;s people were taken off guard, but when they responded they denied it ever happened.</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try to picture this, concerned: There is a life sized cut out of Michele Obama. On one side a young man has a hand on the breast and on the other side another young man is kissing the cheek of the pretend Michele and has his hand in her hair. The young an on the left has a bottle of beer held to Michele&#039;s lips. What more would these two young men have to do for you to be offended or consider the tableau sexual abuse? If it were your mother, sister, girlfriend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try to picture this, concerned: There is a life sized cut out of Michele Obama. On one side a young man has a hand on the breast and on the other side another young man is kissing the cheek of the pretend Michele and has his hand in her hair. The young an on the left has a bottle of beer held to Michele&#8217;s lips. What more would these two young men have to do for you to be offended or consider the tableau sexual abuse? If it were your mother, sister, girlfriend?</p>
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		<title>By: lee M</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mess they left behind after the inauguration reminded me of the mess they left behind after the convention.  Both were examples of their messy minds.

I suppose we should be thankful that they didn&#039;t also leave discarded and trodden American Flags, the way they did in Denver.  Or did some patriotic group go around behind them and collect the flags before the pictures were taken?

Jon Favreau is just another example of the addlepated type of misogynist that permeated the primaries, only he is more disgraceful because according to Obama he is supposed to be intelligent.  If this is what passes for intelligence these days we are in a heap of trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mess they left behind after the inauguration reminded me of the mess they left behind after the convention.  Both were examples of their messy minds.</p>
<p>I suppose we should be thankful that they didn&#8217;t also leave discarded and trodden American Flags, the way they did in Denver.  Or did some patriotic group go around behind them and collect the flags before the pictures were taken?</p>
<p>Jon Favreau is just another example of the addlepated type of misogynist that permeated the primaries, only he is more disgraceful because according to Obama he is supposed to be intelligent.  If this is what passes for intelligence these days we are in a heap of trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: OBushMa</title>
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		<dc:creator>OBushMa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BO and Jon&#039;s bromance is so precious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BO and Jon&#8217;s bromance is so precious.</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot; The real problem is not Favvy boy, its the global view of Hillary fostered by the Obama campaign but started with the GOP in the 1990s.&lt;/i&gt;

This is a quote from one of the links you provided, Chris. May I suggest &quot;Favvy boy&quot; will disappear from the Obama administration and his name, if it appears at all in the history of the Obama campaign and administration, will be a footnote scholars will ignore. Not that anyone believes there is or will be any affection between the Clintons and Barack Obama, but there are forces of nature which can&#039;t be ignored or brushed aside. The Clinton&#039;s are such a force and their legacy separately and as a couple is deeply embedded in our consciousness and will be in the history of our country and no detractor will be able to erase the importance of her candidacy or his presidency. It should be pointed out yet again, how many times the Gallup Poll has listed Hillary as the Most Admired Woman In The World and the connections Bill Clinton has made from the period of his presidency and through the work of his foundation. Obama has yet to make a mark (outside of his election) which will place him in history as an admired or respected leader. When the Republicans attempted to remove Bill Clinton him from his office, they failed. Failure is not something which will be ignored by history and cannot be erased. Immediately following her nomination as SoS there were the usual naysayers along with attempts to demean and &quot;dehumanize&quot; her in the American press and among some of our politicians, but this didn&#039;t occur in other parts of the world where the view isn&#039;t partisan and the opinions aren&#039;t colored by an irrational hatred from of small group of people. The illusion painted by supporters of Barack Obama of anger in the Black community is only that and not a true representation of reality. Your post and some others which have appeared here at nq and other blogs tend to present Hillary as a helpless victim, thrown the bone of SoS and who is a dispensable component of a successful presidency for Obama. Please consider the possibility she is indispensable and her talents will be the only way our country can move forward toward peace. Further, allow the possibility there are some members of this administration who understand without her help he will fail. What Colin Powell and Condi Rice did with their terms as SoS was a result of their compromise of principle and independent thought and isn&#039;t a reflection of past SOSs. They will not be remembered in history as anything other than syncopates to a failed presidency. This is not something even Obama in his most arrogant, messianic moment would expect from Hillary Clinton. Obama has no demonstrated expertise in diplomacy or international experience outside his four years as a child in Indonesian and his Kenyan relatives with whom he has had little contact in his life. Certainly not enough to understand how other cultures differ from our own. It&#039;s useless to point out how this continued speculation about Hillary&#039;s strength is not helpful since one of the most amazing facts surrounding the Clintons is the mythic proportions of tall tales told and enormous devotion or hatred inspired by the simple fact of their continued existence and perseverance in public life in this country. It would help to remember the glowing praise from both sides of the isle during her confirmation and overwhelming approval of her nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8221; The real problem is not Favvy boy, its the global view of Hillary fostered by the Obama campaign but started with the GOP in the 1990s.</i></p>
<p>This is a quote from one of the links you provided, Chris. May I suggest &#8220;Favvy boy&#8221; will disappear from the Obama administration and his name, if it appears at all in the history of the Obama campaign and administration, will be a footnote scholars will ignore. Not that anyone believes there is or will be any affection between the Clintons and Barack Obama, but there are forces of nature which can&#8217;t be ignored or brushed aside. The Clinton&#8217;s are such a force and their legacy separately and as a couple is deeply embedded in our consciousness and will be in the history of our country and no detractor will be able to erase the importance of her candidacy or his presidency. It should be pointed out yet again, how many times the Gallup Poll has listed Hillary as the Most Admired Woman In The World and the connections Bill Clinton has made from the period of his presidency and through the work of his foundation. Obama has yet to make a mark (outside of his election) which will place him in history as an admired or respected leader. When the Republicans attempted to remove Bill Clinton him from his office, they failed. Failure is not something which will be ignored by history and cannot be erased. Immediately following her nomination as SoS there were the usual naysayers along with attempts to demean and &#8220;dehumanize&#8221; her in the American press and among some of our politicians, but this didn&#8217;t occur in other parts of the world where the view isn&#8217;t partisan and the opinions aren&#8217;t colored by an irrational hatred from of small group of people. The illusion painted by supporters of Barack Obama of anger in the Black community is only that and not a true representation of reality. Your post and some others which have appeared here at nq and other blogs tend to present Hillary as a helpless victim, thrown the bone of SoS and who is a dispensable component of a successful presidency for Obama. Please consider the possibility she is indispensable and her talents will be the only way our country can move forward toward peace. Further, allow the possibility there are some members of this administration who understand without her help he will fail. What Colin Powell and Condi Rice did with their terms as SoS was a result of their compromise of principle and independent thought and isn&#8217;t a reflection of past SOSs. They will not be remembered in history as anything other than syncopates to a failed presidency. This is not something even Obama in his most arrogant, messianic moment would expect from Hillary Clinton. Obama has no demonstrated expertise in diplomacy or international experience outside his four years as a child in Indonesian and his Kenyan relatives with whom he has had little contact in his life. Certainly not enough to understand how other cultures differ from our own. It&#8217;s useless to point out how this continued speculation about Hillary&#8217;s strength is not helpful since one of the most amazing facts surrounding the Clintons is the mythic proportions of tall tales told and enormous devotion or hatred inspired by the simple fact of their continued existence and perseverance in public life in this country. It would help to remember the glowing praise from both sides of the isle during her confirmation and overwhelming approval of her nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: comradebillyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>comradebillyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure Obama discards those who are no longer useful. I imagine he is keeping Favreau because he is a competent speech writer who will never again be seen in public if he knows what&#039;s good for him. If Favreau  embarrasses Obama a second time, I suspect he will join the crowd under the bus. 

While I have never been much of an Obama fan, I do not find his fundamental ruthlessness a negative.

What ever his other faults Obama is not stupid  (unlike his predecessor)and he appears to be giving Hillary quite a broad portfolio and nowadays treats her with great respect and consideration. I think they will be an effective team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure Obama discards those who are no longer useful. I imagine he is keeping Favreau because he is a competent speech writer who will never again be seen in public if he knows what&#8217;s good for him. If Favreau  embarrasses Obama a second time, I suspect he will join the crowd under the bus. </p>
<p>While I have never been much of an Obama fan, I do not find his fundamental ruthlessness a negative.</p>
<p>What ever his other faults Obama is not stupid  (unlike his predecessor)and he appears to be giving Hillary quite a broad portfolio and nowadays treats her with great respect and consideration. I think they will be an effective team.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc99</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Jon Favreau in &lt;i&gt;The Replacements.&lt;/i&gt; Oh, THAT Jon Favreau...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Jon Favreau in <i>The Replacements.</i> Oh, THAT Jon Favreau&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lizzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Combine his idiot speeches with the fact that we know every word from O&#039;s mouth is a LIE and it makes a grown person hurl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Combine his idiot speeches with the fact that we know every word from O&#8217;s mouth is a LIE and it makes a grown person hurl.</p>
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		<title>By: noproblama</title>
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		<dc:creator>noproblama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So what if Hillary was not his first choice.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, considering his first choice was the other guy in the photo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So what if Hillary was not his first choice.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, considering his first choice was the other guy in the photo.</p>
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		<title>By: sproutingly</title>
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		<dc:creator>sproutingly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think of the outrage if that had been a cut out of Michelle. Just substitute her image for Hillary&#039;s and imagine the cries of racism.  Or how about if it had been a picture of Obama himself. Hey, if it&#039;s just boys being boys and a case of &quot;fiddling while Rome burns&quot; then a cutout picture of Obama being disresepcted by those two would have been no big deal Right?? 

The behavior is only excused because it was a cutout of Hillary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think of the outrage if that had been a cut out of Michelle. Just substitute her image for Hillary&#8217;s and imagine the cries of racism.  Or how about if it had been a picture of Obama himself. Hey, if it&#8217;s just boys being boys and a case of &#8220;fiddling while Rome burns&#8221; then a cutout picture of Obama being disresepcted by those two would have been no big deal Right?? </p>
<p>The behavior is only excused because it was a cutout of Hillary.</p>
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		<title>By: Jude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point DAB.  I&#039;ve said a few times that Obama&#039;s rhetoric about responsibility is already embraced by so many who did not support him, yet it remains to be seen how his supporters will actualize that objective.

Looking at the disgusting pictures of the National Mall after all those litterbugs left doesn&#039;t bode well for the future.  If they can&#039;t do something as simple as taking their own garbage with them, where will they be for the heavy lifting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point DAB.  I&#8217;ve said a few times that Obama&#8217;s rhetoric about responsibility is already embraced by so many who did not support him, yet it remains to be seen how his supporters will actualize that objective.</p>
<p>Looking at the disgusting pictures of the National Mall after all those litterbugs left doesn&#8217;t bode well for the future.  If they can&#8217;t do something as simple as taking their own garbage with them, where will they be for the heavy lifting?</p>
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		<title>By: DAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it amusing to picture Mr. Favreau actually writing that line about &quot;putting aside your childish things&quot; in the Inauguration Address with a straight face?  

My first thought was &quot;You and the other Bots should take a piece of your own advice&quot;.  Easy to preach, but often harder to live the life...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it amusing to picture Mr. Favreau actually writing that line about &#8220;putting aside your childish things&#8221; in the Inauguration Address with a straight face?  </p>
<p>My first thought was &#8220;You and the other Bots should take a piece of your own advice&#8221;.  Easy to preach, but often harder to live the life&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cas Sammanasu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cas Sammanasu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether it happened at a private party or public bathroom, what Jon Favreau did with Hillary Clinton’s cut-out after the election was over should have been reported well, analyzed thoroughly, and severely condemned  by all people with even the least amount of common sense and reasonable amount of decency and even a  below-normal sense of morality. 

It is really sad that Obama’s supporters are still trying to justify Jon Favreau and sad also to see Obama’s public silence on this issue and his continued support (and reward) for Jon Favreau. We need to keep focusing on this issue to expose the stupidity of Jon Favreau and his supporters to the rest of the country and the world. We cannot ignore this by saying that this is inconsequential and hence needs to be forgotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether it happened at a private party or public bathroom, what Jon Favreau did with Hillary Clinton’s cut-out after the election was over should have been reported well, analyzed thoroughly, and severely condemned  by all people with even the least amount of common sense and reasonable amount of decency and even a  below-normal sense of morality. </p>
<p>It is really sad that Obama’s supporters are still trying to justify Jon Favreau and sad also to see Obama’s public silence on this issue and his continued support (and reward) for Jon Favreau. We need to keep focusing on this issue to expose the stupidity of Jon Favreau and his supporters to the rest of the country and the world. We cannot ignore this by saying that this is inconsequential and hence needs to be forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: Jude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor baby has to run away when confronted with some harsh truths. 

When one is the President&#039;s mouthpiece to the world, yes, I think the standard of conduct should be very high, even after hours.  Too bad the babies in the admin have had to temper tantrum about not being able to access their my space pages during taxpayer paid hours.

Images of degradation and violence toward women lead to real incidents.  So go ahead and disgrace your Maggie Thatcher cut out.  I&#039;m happy to see another Obot contributing such wonderful ideas of equality to society.  You really &#039;get the message&#039; of hope and change, I see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor baby has to run away when confronted with some harsh truths. </p>
<p>When one is the President&#8217;s mouthpiece to the world, yes, I think the standard of conduct should be very high, even after hours.  Too bad the babies in the admin have had to temper tantrum about not being able to access their my space pages during taxpayer paid hours.</p>
<p>Images of degradation and violence toward women lead to real incidents.  So go ahead and disgrace your Maggie Thatcher cut out.  I&#8217;m happy to see another Obot contributing such wonderful ideas of equality to society.  You really &#8216;get the message&#8217; of hope and change, I see.</p>
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