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	<title>Comments on: Gather &#8216;Round, You Devilworshippers (and Unleash the Jackals of the Open Thread)</title>
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		<title>By: mudkitty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1139/gather-round-you-devilworshipers-and-unleash-the-jackals-of-the-open-thread/#comment-80287</link>
		<dc:creator>mudkitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only good gold is during epidemic wars is as a border exchange.</description>
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		<title>By: mudkitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>mudkitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullshit.  You were saying that (that it is your business.)

Just making 200 grand a year is worth working for, especially if you have a family.  What the fuck could you even be talking about...?  (But it&#039;s still none of your business.) 

What is our business is the business of government.   

The Laffer Curve is a laugh.  

If you want a balanced budget, vote democratic.  Name one single solitary time any Republican any where in this previous century, ever balanced a budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullshit.  You were saying that (that it is your business.)</p>
<p>Just making 200 grand a year is worth working for, especially if you have a family.  What the fuck could you even be talking about&#8230;?  (But it&#8217;s still none of your business.) </p>
<p>What is our business is the business of government.   </p>
<p>The Laffer Curve is a laugh.  </p>
<p>If you want a balanced budget, vote democratic.  Name one single solitary time any Republican any where in this previous century, ever balanced a budget.</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thinker-  &quot;I am glad I bought gold!&quot;


hell yeah you are</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thinker-  &#8220;I am glad I bought gold!&#8221;</p>
<p>hell yeah you are</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Murder, on a side issue, I look at it like this. There is an inkling of a chance that America is going to have its first black president. He is now being &quot;groomed&quot;. We know Mrs Clinton is a safe pair of hands.

If I voted, I&#039;d vote for Paul, who actually seems to have integrity. However, perhaps that&#039;s because he&#039;s not going to be ellected.

I&#039;m afraid I am not sure it is just the males, Susan. The puritan zealot base can be found in man woman &amp; child. We have similar interest rate rise games being played here is Australia.

I am glad I bought gold!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Murder, on a side issue, I look at it like this. There is an inkling of a chance that America is going to have its first black president. He is now being &#8220;groomed&#8221;. We know Mrs Clinton is a safe pair of hands.</p>
<p>If I voted, I&#8217;d vote for Paul, who actually seems to have integrity. However, perhaps that&#8217;s because he&#8217;s not going to be ellected.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid I am not sure it is just the males, Susan. The puritan zealot base can be found in man woman &amp; child. We have similar interest rate rise games being played here is Australia.</p>
<p>I am glad I bought gold!</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mudkitty-  &quot;People’s “motivations to work” are none of your business.&quot;

that is nonsenical.  I wasn&#039;t saying I wanted to know anyones motivation.  I was saying that people are less inclined to want to work if they are going to be taxed at a unreasonably high rate.  So someone who is making 200,000 dollars a year and has an oppurtunity to start some business that will create jobs is not going to do it if yuo are going to tax him 70 or as we once had 90% for that.  That is the prediction that was proven by data in what is called the Laffer Curve.  if you were to tax that additional earnings at a regular rate the business would be more likely to exist.  get it?

justsomeone-   no we pay TONS of taxes, income tax is just one.  everytime you buy anything or do anything in this country it is taxed.  if you smokecigaretts you are taxed like 100 percent or more for it.  gasoline tax, etc.  We get like 1/3 of our revenue from income tax.  the idea that poor people aren&#039;t paying their share isn&#039;t true.  

we have a spending problem.  we have taxed, borrowed and debased the currecy to the absolute limit and the politicians still want more.


Mudkitty (again)-  the way I would describe it is we don&#039;t need a nutritionist, we need a dietician.  the democrats seem to think that if we spend money over here instead of over there everything will be okay.  at this moment that is not true.  there were times when it was relatively true but now is not one of them.    

we are 11 trillion pounds over weight</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mudkitty-  &#8220;People’s “motivations to work” are none of your business.&#8221;</p>
<p>that is nonsenical.  I wasn&#8217;t saying I wanted to know anyones motivation.  I was saying that people are less inclined to want to work if they are going to be taxed at a unreasonably high rate.  So someone who is making 200,000 dollars a year and has an oppurtunity to start some business that will create jobs is not going to do it if yuo are going to tax him 70 or as we once had 90% for that.  That is the prediction that was proven by data in what is called the Laffer Curve.  if you were to tax that additional earnings at a regular rate the business would be more likely to exist.  get it?</p>
<p>justsomeone-   no we pay TONS of taxes, income tax is just one.  everytime you buy anything or do anything in this country it is taxed.  if you smokecigaretts you are taxed like 100 percent or more for it.  gasoline tax, etc.  We get like 1/3 of our revenue from income tax.  the idea that poor people aren&#8217;t paying their share isn&#8217;t true.  </p>
<p>we have a spending problem.  we have taxed, borrowed and debased the currecy to the absolute limit and the politicians still want more.</p>
<p>Mudkitty (again)-  the way I would describe it is we don&#8217;t need a nutritionist, we need a dietician.  the democrats seem to think that if we spend money over here instead of over there everything will be okay.  at this moment that is not true.  there were times when it was relatively true but now is not one of them.    </p>
<p>we are 11 trillion pounds over weight</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
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		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lester, according to the Washington based Tax Foundation 41% of the US population pays no taxes to the IRS, none, zero, zip. The thing that scares me the most about Obama is Soros is backing him, aka Mr Mixed economy. Uncle George Soros knows what&#039;s best for the peeons now that his billions are protected. I&#039;m not an economist, however I&#039;m really concerned, how will we get out from under this hudge debt that keeps compounding? You can only cut or modify so many services until people who aren&#039;t criminals by nature will start doing desperate things. I guess it&#039;s going to get interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lester, according to the Washington based Tax Foundation 41% of the US population pays no taxes to the IRS, none, zero, zip. The thing that scares me the most about Obama is Soros is backing him, aka Mr Mixed economy. Uncle George Soros knows what&#8217;s best for the peeons now that his billions are protected. I&#8217;m not an economist, however I&#8217;m really concerned, how will we get out from under this hudge debt that keeps compounding? You can only cut or modify so many services until people who aren&#8217;t criminals by nature will start doing desperate things. I guess it&#8217;s going to get interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: mudkitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>mudkitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Lester.  That&#039;s just nutty, and knee jerk.  

People&#039;s &quot;motivations to work&quot; are none of your business.  

Big government, or small government isn&#039;t the issue...never was...it&#039;s about the right size government, and the right size government expands and contracts in order to meet the needs of it&#039;s people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Lester.  That&#8217;s just nutty, and knee jerk.  </p>
<p>People&#8217;s &#8220;motivations to work&#8221; are none of your business.  </p>
<p>Big government, or small government isn&#8217;t the issue&#8230;never was&#8230;it&#8217;s about the right size government, and the right size government expands and contracts in order to meet the needs of it&#8217;s people.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing published, I will see what I can do.</description>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have an audio?  Would love to hear you play.</description>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mr murder-  classic democratic stances?  bill clinton is the one who said &quot;the era of big government is over&quot;.

privitizing roads isn&#039;t a priority for most libertarians thuogh it is an interesting idea that could result in roads that are much better maintainted. There is some writing on the subject I doubt you have read.

   I don&#039;t know about disaster relief either. FEMA pretty much blew it when push came to shove did they not?  People give freely to the Red Cross and other charities.  I really doubt there is less beaurocracy in FEMA  or even the red cross than there is in, say, the Salvation army, the CEO of which makes i think barely 100,000 a year.  I have no problem with disaster relief at the governmetn level either, but most of our 3 trillion dollar a year budget doesn&#039;t go toward that or much of anything you or I care abuot.

   it goes to aid to countries that hate us, subsidizing things we don&#039;t want or use and the beaurocracy to run all that stuff.


   I agree on all the recession stuff.  tax cuts are pointless if they aren&#039;t met with spending cuts.  all it means is you are either borrowing or debasing the currencies, both of which BUsh has done to the hilt.  But if you look at the Laffer curve, there is a clear point at which people are simply not going to be motivated to work if they are taxed to high.  70-90 percent taxation.  how hard would you work if you knew you were going to keep 1/10 of what you earned?  

  and yes i am in favor of eliminating income tax.  we pay plenty of other taxes.  look at the word: tax.  it&#039;s taxing.  it&#039;s negative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mr murder-  classic democratic stances?  bill clinton is the one who said &#8220;the era of big government is over&#8221;.</p>
<p>privitizing roads isn&#8217;t a priority for most libertarians thuogh it is an interesting idea that could result in roads that are much better maintainted. There is some writing on the subject I doubt you have read.</p>
<p>   I don&#8217;t know about disaster relief either. FEMA pretty much blew it when push came to shove did they not?  People give freely to the Red Cross and other charities.  I really doubt there is less beaurocracy in FEMA  or even the red cross than there is in, say, the Salvation army, the CEO of which makes i think barely 100,000 a year.  I have no problem with disaster relief at the governmetn level either, but most of our 3 trillion dollar a year budget doesn&#8217;t go toward that or much of anything you or I care abuot.</p>
<p>   it goes to aid to countries that hate us, subsidizing things we don&#8217;t want or use and the beaurocracy to run all that stuff.</p>
<p>   I agree on all the recession stuff.  tax cuts are pointless if they aren&#8217;t met with spending cuts.  all it means is you are either borrowing or debasing the currencies, both of which BUsh has done to the hilt.  But if you look at the Laffer curve, there is a clear point at which people are simply not going to be motivated to work if they are taxed to high.  70-90 percent taxation.  how hard would you work if you knew you were going to keep 1/10 of what you earned?  </p>
<p>  and yes i am in favor of eliminating income tax.  we pay plenty of other taxes.  look at the word: tax.  it&#8217;s taxing.  it&#8217;s negative.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late in 2005 Randi Rhodes played a  &quot;books on tape&quot; of O&#039;Reilly reading a &quot;detective&quot; novel he wrote....I have never laughed so hard in years, as I listened to his &quot;detective&quot; share a crackpipe with some whores....and so much more. 
You could hear in his voice how bad he was jonesin....
Why he is still on the air speaks volumnes about how utterly bizarre the MSM topology has become..
The boy from Levittown is pure yellow snow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late in 2005 Randi Rhodes played a  &#8220;books on tape&#8221; of O&#8217;Reilly reading a &#8220;detective&#8221; novel he wrote&#8230;.I have never laughed so hard in years, as I listened to his &#8220;detective&#8221; share a crackpipe with some whores&#8230;.and so much more.<br />
You could hear in his voice how bad he was jonesin&#8230;.<br />
Why he is still on the air speaks volumnes about how utterly bizarre the MSM topology has become..<br />
The boy from Levittown is pure yellow snow.</p>
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		<title>By: mudkitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>mudkitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Libertarians are a joke.  

&quot;Civil Libertarianism&quot; is just liberalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Libertarians are a joke.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Civil Libertarianism&#8221; is just liberalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan Fraser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donovan Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pulled off isn&#039;t good enough for me...
I&#039;m waiting for them to find O’Reilly in a hotel with a gerbil in his ass praying to Mecca and swearing his allegiance to OBL while simultaneously snorting Cocaine off the bathroom floor.

did i mention i hate this fuck?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pulled off isn&#8217;t good enough for me&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m waiting for them to find O’Reilly in a hotel with a gerbil in his ass praying to Mecca and swearing his allegiance to OBL while simultaneously snorting Cocaine off the bathroom floor.</p>
<p>did i mention i hate this fuck?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Keyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Keyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote from Charley Reese...

The future grows dark for the United States. We have a bad administration that is corrupt, secretive, incompetent and disdainful of liberty. We have a press that for the most part cannot distinguish news from celebrity gossip. We have an education system that is manufacturing functional illiterates. We have a public that seemingly believes the only things worthwhile in life are entertainment and consumption.</description>
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<p>The future grows dark for the United States. We have a bad administration that is corrupt, secretive, incompetent and disdainful of liberty. We have a press that for the most part cannot distinguish news from celebrity gossip. We have an education system that is manufacturing functional illiterates. We have a public that seemingly believes the only things worthwhile in life are entertainment and consumption.</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
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		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 06:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&amp; remember really poor kids are already 100% covered under Medicaid. So what&#039;s up with the billions to the insurance giants for middle class kids? My cynical best guess--a bailout for the insurers, who I wouldn&#039;t be suprised are up to their ears in &quot;investing&quot; in the sub prime slime, like debt backed securities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&amp; remember really poor kids are already 100% covered under Medicaid. So what&#8217;s up with the billions to the insurance giants for middle class kids? My cynical best guess&#8211;a bailout for the insurers, who I wouldn&#8217;t be suprised are up to their ears in &#8220;investing&#8221; in the sub prime slime, like debt backed securities.</p>
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