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AG Mukasey Pens Op-Ed on FISA (+Open Thread)

Michael Mukasey, the recently confirmed attorney general, wrote “A FISA fix,” an op-ed for today’s Los Angeles Times. It’s worth reading in full, but includes these troubling statements:

… Until recently, our surveillance efforts were hampered by the unintended consequences of an outdated law, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, … [...]

[The Senate Intelligence Committee's bill] would provide protections from lawsuits for telecommunications companies that have been sued simply because they are believed to have assisted our intelligence agencies after the 9/11 attacks. The bill does not, as some have suggested, provide blanket immunity for those companies. Instead, a lawsuit would be dismissed only in cases in which the attorney general certified to the court either that a company did not provide assistance to the government or that a company had received a written request indicating that the activity was authorized by the president and determined to be lawful.

It is unfair to force such companies to face the possibility of massive judgments and litigation costs, and allowing these lawsuits to proceed also risks disclosure of our country’s intelligence capabilities to our enemies. Moreover, in the future we will need the full-hearted help of private companies in our intelligence activities; we cannot expect such cooperation to be forthcoming if we do not support companies that have helped us in the past.

The bill that came out of the Senate Intelligence Committee was carefully crafted and is a good starting point for legislation. Unfortunately, there are two other versions of the bill being considered that do not accomplish the two key objectives. The House of Representatives recently passed a version that would significantly weaken the Protect America Act by, among other things, requiring individual court orders to target people overseas in order to acquire certain types of foreign intelligence information. Similarly, the Senate Judiciary Committee made significant amendments to the Senate Intelligence Committee’s bill that would have the collective effect of weakening the government’s ability to effectively surveil intelligence targets abroad.

Moreover, neither the House bill nor the Senate Judiciary Committee’s version addresses protection for companies that face massive liability. Both the Senate Judiciary Committee amendments and the House bill passed largely on party lines, and the full Senate will be debating this issue shortly.

Congress must choose how to correct critical shortcomings in our foreign intelligence surveillance laws. It is a time for urgency: The Protect America Act expires in just two months, and we cannot afford to allow dangerous gaps in our intelligence capabilities to reopen. But this is also a time of opportunity, when we can set aside political differences to develop a long-term, bipartisan solution to widely recognized deficiencies in our national security laws. When Congress returns to this challenge, it should continue on the course charted by the Senate Intelligence Committee.

From “A FISA fix,” an op-ed for today’s Los Angeles Times by Attorney General Michael Mukasey.

  • reggie

    Maybe it’s time for a Protect America Better Act.

    A wide debate could be started and proposals submitted and, taking a leaf out of Venezuela’s book, a referendum could be called to vote on the proposals.

    No1 on the list could well be ‘no more wars of aggression’.

  • Cee

    It is unfair to force such companies to face the possibility of massive judgments and litigation costs

    This kind of thinking allowed IBM to get away with what they did

    http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/

    The same thing was done in Guatemala.

  • TeakwoodKite

    from the Op-ed by Mukasey. Is this a statement about “bucket warrents” ? I don’t understand the reference to “corresponding benefit to the privacy of people in the U.S”

    Anyone?

    However, revolutionary changes in communications technology in the intervening years have resulted in FISA applying more frequently to surveillance directed at targets overseas. The increased volume of applications for judicial orders under FISA impaired our ability to collect critical intelligence, with little if any corresponding benefit to the privacy of people in the U.S.

    Moreover, in the future we will need the full-hearted help of private companies in our intelligence activities;

    Which companies and who is going to provide the oversight and and and….one more outsourced constitutional responsibility.

    Where it the bill stands;

    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/only-few-saw-the-key-fisa-court-rulings-2007-12-11.html

  • Bill Keyes

    “….allowing these lawsuits to proceed also risks disclosure of our country’s intelligence capabilities to our enemies.”

    Who are our enemies?

    What gives us the right to spy on anyone in a foreign country?

    When I was growing up the fear machine (today it is faux news)had us believe there was a commie behind every bush. That turned out to be totally false and was only in place to keep us scared shitless so themil/indus complex could continue to spend our hard earned tax dollars on more useless weapons of mass destruction. Today it is the same with just a change of names and faces. Insted of commies it is now Islamofascist whatever that means or Al-quieda dejour.

    The only enemies we have are the imaginary ones our fearless leaders create in order to keep us scared shitless so they can continue to take away what few liberties we have left and continue on their march for coporate global denomination.

    At guess at the risk of pissing off Larry and getting kicked off this site I would have to ask for what purpose has the CIA and all these other so called intellengence agencies served all these years?

    What have they prevented from happening or is it I-guess-we-will-never-know-because-it-is-all-
    classified? So we should just believe our fearless leaders when they say we are safe because of all their work?

    Which leads me to my next point….

    If you believe that Osama Bin Forgotten and 18 Saudi nationals carried out the most successful terrorist act in the history of mankind then how can you justify the existence of the CIA and all these agencies whose sole purpose is to prevent these things from happening?

    Who didn’t do their job??

    Why has not a single government official in any of these branches of government or any of the other branches of government been fired or at least reprimanded for their complete incompetance in protecting this country and its citizens from the events of 9/11?

    Lets say you are a witness to a crime and have round the clock police protection, somebody screws up, there is a lapse in the protection, the bad guys you witnessed break into your house and kill you, who would you family be most angry at, the bad guys or the police?

    It would seem to me that all those affected either directly or indirectly by the events of 9/11 should be directing most of their anger at those who were supposed to protect us from kind of terrorist attacks not just at those who perpetrated the attacks.

    • http://OUTRAGEDBUTNOTSURPRISED bama_barrron

      Bill you make some excellent points … might i also add, as far as I know only one public offical has ever apologized for the failures of 9-11. Richard Clark and he was, not unsurpisingly, smeared by the right wing.

    • Cee

      Bill,

      I think (or want to) that the people in the FBI and CIA wanted to do their jobs but were prevented by their higher ups.
      I want the names of people who helped facilitate the attacks. What ever happened to Marion Bowman?
      I was surprised to see one of the 9-11 ommission members on Olbermann the other evening talking about all of the information that they were prevented from getting.
      I want the names of people who obstructed the commission. It wasn’t just Zelikow, was it?

      • TeakWoodKite

        I thought Zelikow just owned the pawn shop.

        • TeakWoodKite

          I make no inference about the regular folk but,
          we can’t even get Visa’s to US Citizens in a timely manner. What makes us think we can resource this?

          Do we have to worry about Chinese entering on a tourist VISA’s? Conseridering the level of espionage being conducted by the Chinese government the against the U.S., it makes you wonder if this aspect was even considered.

          On the other hand SF could enjoy getting our money back…Crazy isn’t? They loan us the money to wage wars and then we pay interest on that money so they can buy our weak dollar products. What the hell, what’s a little American contriband to the Chinese anyway.

        • Cee

          I don’t get it.

          • TeakWoodKite

            There is an change in Chinese tourism to the US and I was wondered about what espionage / security issues are presented by this change. My concern is that we are not looking at the downside when money is involved. Nothing against tourism per se.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    OT: I have the GOP debate on . I didn’t want to watch and may turn on NPR in a minute.

    But I have to ask this: What in the hell is Alan Keyes doing on the stage? He’s running too? He’s just as nuts as ever.

    • Delia

      The question is: who’s more nuts Alan Keyes or Mike Huckabee?

      • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

        The worrisome thing about Huckabee is that he comes across in a very appealing, down-to-earth way. And he sometimes says things that I really love — like his repeated statements about getting more of the arts and music back into school curricula. That kids don’t do well in school because they’re bored (which is true) and they need more total brain stimulation. (He can be so “winning” in his debate appearances that I have to remind myself of his scary views on AIDs, etc.)

        The scariest thing about Huckabee as a presidential candidate: His utter lack of experience and knowledge of world affairs. We have had seven years of an ignorant president. We need someone who’s traveled the world, met world leaders, and been a student of international affairs and diplomacy.

        • Retired

          So, what we have in Huckabee is a former Arkansas governor who comes across in a very appealing, down-to-earth way and makes winning populist comments. Hey, who knows? He might be another Bill Clinton. Except that Bill had Hillary–was she really the deciding factor in the quality of his presidency? (For those of you who haven’t picked it up yet, I’m kidding. I don’t want to start a blog war on my “support of Huck.”)

        • Mr.Murder

          Huckabee scrapped arts and music here.

          You have the choice of either/or if you take Band or Choir or enroll in art class, once every other day of the week.

          …that’s right, he halved arts classes.

    • http://www.food4humanity.org HoosierHoops

      Anybody that can sit through a GOP debate deserves the congressional metal of Honor..
      Just a guess but Rudy with his 24 ex wifes talking about social morals?
      Fred..Stumbling without a script memorized..
      Huckelberry Dog talking about..well who really cares.
      Alan Keyes? OMG..Is that guy still around?
      Mitt? I hope they nominate him..Isn’t he ultra religious and ultra everything else? He should carry Utah.
      Really..I can’t say much about the GOP.. I tend to ignore them..They lie all the time..Compassionate conserative, WOT, tax breaks..( but not for you )
      They support the troops enough to send them to payback countries they don’t want to talk or deal with..They dispise the poor, hate the gays, abhore any religion that isn’t ‘christian’ destroy our treasured institutions..( CIA, SC, WH, DOJ to name a few)

      • TeakWoodKite

        The debates theme music should be from “24″…like some ring tone on Chertoff’s cell. He was out there pushing his sweet cousin today. Guy sounds like a weatherman…

        http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071212/ts_nm/security_usa_dc

        Port security? who owns them? CSX rail security? They sold it to who? Airline security? I had a belt buckle that “went off” in JFK but not SFO.

        Some cohorts asked “So who you like?” (miller time) I’m still at a point were I don’t trust any of them, with all due respect to the candidates. It’s like watching a whole season of “Desprate Housewives” back to back…(it’s that or the senate on C-Span tivo’ed and at fast forward>>>)

        On the bright side things and somewhat and not unrelated;

        On Monday, Phaethon passed about 11 million miles (18 million kilometers) from Earth, its closest approach since its discovery in 1983.

        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22149504/?GT1=10645#storyContinued

    • Cee

      LOL! He must have bribed the police not to take him away like they did in Atlanta the last time he ran.

      • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

        Someone said this afternoon on one of the talk shows that, if you look up Keyes’ federal election filings, you’ll see that he runs for president to make money. He pays himself a salary out of his donations.

        Amazing.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    More OT: If you clicked on the book jacket for Charlie Wilson’s War last night, you got an error message. That’s because I copied the wrong URL when I set up the link. I will try to do better.

  • Retired

    You know, after reading this post, I find myself longing for at time when our leaders were worried about protecting the rights of individual Americans. Will such days ever return?

    So far, a free and open society has proven to be stronger than anything else that has been put on the table. When we went toe to toe with the Soviets, it was they who crumbled, even with all of their supposed military might (which turned out to be largely a facade).

    There is risk in living in a free and open society, though. From time to time, people are going to get unjustly injured and killed, and often out of proportion to the powers and numbers of the maimers and killers, at that.

    Is freedom worth that risk? I think that it is, and I think that the majority of people in the US, if not the rest of the world, think so, too.

    But how to get this message across to our political leadership? That is the question. If I had the answer, it wouldn’t matter how much money I could make off of it. I would post it on the internet free of charge and pass on to the next dimension satisfied.

    • TeakWoodKite

      “The plan only last until first contact” as said by Pogo.

      Refered to as getting inside a decision cycle…there was a link last topic to a piece about tryanny of the Roman Empire as it declined. I think we are in a phase of cultural entropy. Trust is key.

      There has to be some “critical nodes” and a point of critical mass in a political sense.

  • TeakWoodKite

    I sure hope they never half to pay these claims. If New Orleans is any example.

    http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/congress/12437476.html

  • Mr.Murder

    Bucket Warrants could of course have one terrorist in them and then thousands of USA citizens.

    The sins of the one justify the loss of rights for many.

    Throw one justified warrant in with a bunch that clearly don’t merit.

    Provides cover for some you would not want searched before certain judges, or the ability to spy on political opponents grouped with them in a Bucket for plausible use…

    • TeakWoodKite

      Why do I hear Karl Rove saying “Minimize This” during the last 3 election cycles?

  • Mr.Murder

    Someone said this afternoon on one of the talk shows that, if you look up Keyes’ federal election filings, you’ll see that he runs for president to make money. He pays himself a salary out of his donations.
    Amazing.

    Ditto Huckabee.

  • Kathleen

    Mukasey and others think that they are going to be able to repair the lack of confidence that people are feeling about the integrity of our country by shutting down sooting over these investigations. Not going to happen. The American people who are awake want answers to the depth of this wiretapping and datamining.

    Let’s hope Mukasey does not shut down the Aipac espionage trial. I have thought from the beginning that he was sent in by Schumer and Feinstein to shut this investigation and trial down.

  • Mr.Murder

    No bill can retroactively clear criminal behavior outside a pardon, which is itself an admission of guilt, and that cannot apply to compensatory damages.

    Corporations have more rights than people, none have ever been named to Pardons that I’m aware of, if they were to do so it would still make them party to Civil Damages and give millions the kind of Standing to see something done about when Disclosure occurs on the a Pardon is signed.

    It’s about time to get torches and pitchforks ready…

  • Mr.Murder

    Huckabee should go to jail for the Pardon of Wayne Dumond as well.

    Don’t even pretend he has any claim to be a leader.

    He also fought to have Arkansas’s Balanced Budget Amendment suspended so he could hook buddies up to long term road improvements deals extra judicially by suspending rules of the State Legislature in directing who won awards and could submit bids for highway maintenance and development.
    That’s right, he had a plan to fix roads, without paying for them, then by channeling any revenue gained from tax raises to contributors, with no authentic bid process involved, in Lieu of the State Constitution.

    He’s no conservative.
    He’s certainly no liberal either.

  • Kathleen

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22244282/
    Senate Judiciary votes Bolten, Rove in contempt
    Republicans may be able to block the citations with a procedural hurdle

    updated 1:07 p.m. ET, Thurs., Dec. 13, 2007

    WASHINGTON – The Senate Judiciary Committee voted on Thursday to hold two top aides to President George W. Bush in contempt of Congress for refusing to cooperate in its probe of fired federal p
    rosecutors.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Back to the courts for this one and appealing it John Roberts in the end will be a Pelican Brief. It will go no where. So if the Rebs “block” this contempt sitation are they accomplis to Obsrtuction of Justice for starters?

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