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Getting a Handle on Hate [UPDATE]

I realize that some of the regulars at No Quarter hate Barack Obama. That’s your choice but I think you are being foolish and churlish. Barack Obama appears to be a decent person with generally good intentions. It is not his fault that his mother and father were two dingbats. It is not his fault that he was raised by his grandparents. He played the hand he was dealt and took advantage of the opportunities that came his way. I don’t begrudge him that.

Has he been disingenuous about his past? Absolutely. His refusal to provide his academic records from college is telling. I do not know a single person who had 3.0 gpa or better and graduated with honors who does not list those accomplishments. Nothing wrong with bragging about that. But Barack is very silent on that point.

I don’t buy into the nonsense that he is “NOT A U.S. CITIZEN.” I am certain he is a U.S. citizen. But he does have an embarrassing political problem–when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, the Indonesian muslim and businessman, his name was changed. Barack, who for so many years went by the name “Barry,” has managed very effectively to keep that part of his bio hidden. When that story finally gets out into the mainstream and his known it will probably be met with a shrug of the shoulders and nothing else.

We tried to raise these issues in the primary and campaign but they did not get traction. So now, regardless of what you think, Barack will be the 44th President tomorrow at this time.

It does not matter whether you or I like it. It is a fact. You may not like the fact that the Sun rises in the East, but it does and your opinion cannot alter that reality.

I do not know how long it is going to take the media and glitterati to get over the Obama euphoria. He is not a deity. I am sorry that there are still people in this country so pained by the color of a person’s skin that they are either filled with hate or they use the advancement of someone based solely on the color of the skin as a sign of “progress.” I despise bigotry and affirmative action. I agree with Martin Luther King–it is about character, not color.

So what about Barack’s character? His two daughters tell an important story. They adore their father. That tells me a lot. Girls are tough to raise and easy to read. The warmth and affection they show their dad is genuine and indicates that Barack has been a loving, supportive father. Those two young ladies are not actors. At least on this count we can put a big check in the positive column noting that Barack’s character is sound.

I also would point out that Barack did not follow the Daley/Blagojevich level of corruption common to Chicago politics. He really did not become a millionaire until his books became best sellers. Look at Joe Biden, for heaven’s sake. That guy has never held a job in the private sector and became a millionaire while serving in the Senate. So let’s give Barack some credit. While he did try to enrich himself while a State legislator, compared to other politicians in Illinois, Barack was pretty restrained.

What still bothers me is Barack’s poor judgment in choosing associates. Hanging in the past with the likes of Bill Ayers, Louis Farrakhan, Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Rashid Khalidi and Reverend Pfleger is troubling. On the other hand, we have seen that Barack Obama acts like any other politician who readily disposes of troublesome people in order to save his own political status. Will Barack be better going forward in recognizing how certain relationships now could create big problems down the road? I do not know the answer to that. Jury is still out. I’ll be watching.

Barack’s handling of the transition process appears pretty typical. He has made some good Cabinet choices and he has had some stumbles. He is like every President we’ve had since Franklin Roosevelt in that regard. Touting what he has done so far as “genius” or “brilliance” is silly.

Here’s what I would like the readers of No Quarter to do–let’s analyze and comment on what he does now going forward. If he resorts to tactics or behaviors exhibited during the campaign–positive or negative–you should feel free to point it out and express your feelings and thoughts about the matter.

I do not want this site or its writers to soak in bitterness or hatred. Those emotions are destructive and can physically damage the people consumed by such thoughts.

I sincerely wish President-elect Obama well. I hope he succeeds in presiding over the revival of the nation’s economy, protecting us against new terror strikes, and bringing reconciliation between the Palestinians and Israelis. I particularly hope he restores a commitment to the rule of law and eschews the politics of fear. If he does these things America will be better off. If he does those things during the next four years and stands for reelection, they I will be ready to support his candidacy.

Until then, I do not care what he says or how eloquently he says it. I want to see what he does. I am from Missouri. Show me.

UPDATE: I am seriously concerned about some of you. Do you have trouble understanding the words written above? Does anyone understand nuance? I am fifty four years old. I have traveled extensively around the world. I have dealt first hand with some very bad people. I am not a fresh faced soul yearning for a spot in the Obama Administration. So spare me the nonsense that I am “drinking kool aid” or “taking leave of my senses.”

I do not think Barack Obama is the messiah. Nor do I think he is the anti-Christ. I think he is a smart, shrewd, old-style politician who has been quite deft in persuading folks that he offers a new approach to politics. For those who have been with this blog for more than a year you will know that I have long been concerned that he was a closet socialist with strong ties to marxist groups. But what are we seeing? What is he doing? He is going mainstream, down the middle. Anyone can talk like a moderate but when the actions match the speech then you have to reassess whether all of his promises to be “progressive” were nothing more than hot air.

If you are looking for a site that is going to start and end each day by pledging that we think Barack is an asshole, then this is not the place for you. I have said repeatedly and I WILL WRITE IT IN CAPS–WE WILL CRITICIZE BARACK AND HIS ADMINISTRATION WHEN WE DISAGREE AND WE WILL COMPLIMENT HIS WHEN THEY MAKE WHAT WE JUDGE AS GOOD DECISIONS.

We criticized Geithner and praised Panetta. Is that too much nuance for some of you? Sorry, but I am not changing.

Out of respect for Hillary I will also give Barack some leeway. Many of you support Hillary and believe she was done wrong. Okay. So if she can forgive Barack and if she can campaign for Barack and if she can agree to serve in his Administration then does it not follow that maybe, just maybe, she has accepted she got beat in a tough campaign and believes Barack will be able to do the job? I think so. You do not have to like Barack or bow at his altar to read or comment at No Quarter. You are entitled to your opinion.

Starting tomorrow Barack will have no place to hide. He will be the man. I intend to judge him by what he does. That seems a fair approach.

  • Oisafraud

    Well said Larry. But this being a free country and all, I’m not supporting this guy given his background. But, like you, I wish him well.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    Larry, with all due respect, your intentions are good, but please do not tell me what to think or feel.

    I do not in any way believe that Obama is “a decent man with good intentions.” What his daughters feel about him is in no way any indication of his true character or intentions when it comes to America. His daughters have no clue what that man does behind closed doors.

    I am reminded of wives who love their husbands and then find out that they man they thought they knew was actually a pedophile who was molesting the kids he was teaching. Loving someone does not prove he is a good man.

    I also think you need to allow for people here to express their feelings, as long as it’s not an assassination threat. This is where many of us come to vent. No, you may not like what we all have to say, but if I can’t express my disgust at Obama here I’ll go elsewhere. I need a place where I can have a haven from all the euphoria.

    You may have decided you want your site to go into a different direction, and that’s fine. But don’t tell us what to think or feel. I am not hurting myself with my clear view of Obama. I feel, on the contrary, that American democracy is being dangerous hurt by the euphoria over him.

    We need vocal opposition. It is an important to have checks and balances. Otherwise, we WILL end up like Nazi Germany.

    And BTW…my feeling isn’t even so much of a HATE as an extremely hardened stance of “if I have any say about it, I am not letting an American Hitler rise here.”

    I will never wish Obama well, I will never “get over it,” and I do not feel I am wrong for feeling this way.

    Should Americans start treating this man like just another politician then I will relax my vigilance and ignore him like I did Bush. Until then, I remain VOCAL AND VIGILANT.

  • colbertocrat

    Agree 100% and I wrote in Hillary/Elizabeth Edwards in the general election.

    There’s too much to do to right now (e.g. delouse the Justice Department, lobby for an investigation of the Bush/Cheney administration, etc.). We won’t forget the misogyny and other abuses, but it’s time to work together for the common good.

  • Kat5

    Sorry, Larry, I simply don’t believe that Obama is a “decent person”. Not after his attempts to tar Hillary and Bill Clinton as America’s First Racists. That was waaaay beyond the pale. Obama is out for himself and himself alone. His track record consists almost solely of promoting himself. What public good has he ever accomplished? What does he believe in beyond burnishing his own image? If he were truly a decent person, he would’ve left the field to Hillary Clinton this time around and bided his time until he actually had a record to run on. Far as I can tell, the man was born with no moral compass.

  • http://NoQuarterUSA.net Larry Johnson

    Are you an idiot? Do you have a reading disability? Mentally impaired perhaps? I AM NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO THINK OR FEEL. YOU THINK AND FEEL WHAT YOU WANT AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT PERSONALLY THREATEN SOME ONE OR ISSUE DEATH THREATS.

    The piece above tells you what I think. Understand?

    If I only wanted people who thought like me I would ban you. I have not. That’s why you got to post your piece with your view. Jesus!!

  • Cindy

    Larry,
    I love No Quarter and appreciate your hard work and respect your opinion…But, I do hate Obama and make no apologies for that.
    p.s. Josef Goebbels’ children worshipped him. ‘Nuff said.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    PS Larry, there is a documentary on the Nazis I was posting about last night and I suggest you watch it (it’s online):

    http://mediacondom.com/?p=670

    What I think is happened with a few folks here, you included, is that you are seeing all the hype and euphoria over Obama, and you are also possibly feeling a lot of fear over the economy, and so there’s this seepage into your brain that’s occuring…”Obama can’t be all that bad…Obama is a good man…Obama is good…”

    That’s because you are SURROUNDED by propaganda in the mainstream media.

    Don’t let that subtle chill voice make you lose your mind. It is very challenging to not get swept away in all this euphoria. This is why some of us are so vocal in our criticism. It takes a lot of strength to not get caught up.

    When you watch that documentary, and see the Hitler youth singing praises to Hitler, the cheering crowds, the rise of German nationalism, and the association of Hitler with a messiah, you will be reminded of a very charismatic leader we are now inaugurating here in America. And no, the Nazis didn’t start off with concentration camps either. It was a bit more “innocent” at first.

  • Helen with a T.

    I am from Missouri too. Your words are very helpful. I have been struggling with my feelings for sometime about this man. I hope he can be successful as we all know what troubles this country and the world face. I too am generally satisfied at the cabinet choices he has made to run the departments of the government. I am less happy about the Chicago influence on the inside of the White House. By and large I have transferred my bitterness re: Hillary to the Democratic Party . Perhaps it was time for me to recognize that there are good and bad people in both parties and that both are capable of despicable things. So I still get a lot of pleasure from telling Democratic solicitors that I am no longer a Democrat after sixty years. It gives me comfort that this country could elect a person of color. So now I am watching and hoping for something good. Lately I have told myself that even Huey Long did some good things for the people who elected him. But again thank you for your good words.

  • jdona

    I’m not sure what Larry Johnson was aiming for but I don’t think he is trying to silence voices of dissent, perhaps he is trying to lead it into a more constructive course of action. Face it, you will not find many Obamaphiles on this blog, so I would assume we are all welcome here. Maybe we could just turn down the volume of our voices that are raised in revulsion to a duller roar. but if we do that we might get lost in the Heavenly choruses of Obama the Magnificent raised in their mindless euphoria that comes from an overdose of kool-aid. I didn’t come here before the primary, what exactly was this forum about back then?

  • Thinker

    Here’s what I would like the readers of No Quarter to do–let’s analyze and comment on what he does now going forward.

    - That’s what I’m doing right now.

    Spending close to $170 million on an inauguration during a recession, when people don’t have jobs, when people don’t have healthcare, when soldiers are overseas dying is absolutely ridiculous.

    I understand he needs security but the pricetag on these balls is outrageous and in my opinion, it says a lot about what lies ahead. If he doesn’t have enough common sense to be frugal during trying times, to set an example for fellow Americans, then he is not a good leader. As President of the United States, you can’t tell your citizens to spend money wisely if you can’t do it yourself.

    The President is the head of the corporation. He sets the tone. How is this inauguration any different then those toga parties that those Enron executives had when the company was going down the toilet?

    I’m just saying.

    It’s not soaking in bitterness or hatred if it’s the truth.

    And so what if his daughters love him. They are children. They don’t have the wisdom and the knowledge to know when they are dealing with a crook, which is why we have laws to protect them.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    When you write a whole piece berating people and calling them “foolish and churlish” for thinking and feeling a certain way, you are telling them what to think and feel, even if you say in the piece “oh, I’m not telling you what to think.”

    And BTW, I believe I wrote a respectful response to your piece, I never called you names, I just disagreed with you, and here you are responding now with an extremely over-the-top flame calling me an idiot and insulting mentally impaired people in the process. Calm down! You say people can suffer from hatred, then maybe you need to stop being so angry at people not agreeing with you.

  • fiscalliberal

    Larry

    “let’s analyze and comment” – and be an honest broker.

    By way of example, your analysis of strategic stopping of the rockets to Isreal versus the blanket bomb bludgeon is what I am looking forward to from this blog.

    I find the finacial mess we are in to be facinating in terms of how poorly the Republicans and George Bush managed the economy from the Clinton surplus. We have so many economists and politicians. Having LD give us insight from the street really is different.

    Blogs of collective wisdom like this are the only counter to a corrupt main stream media.If your constant hammering does not make a difference, at least we have the solance of knowing that we are keeping them looking back over their shoulders.

    They shoud never have the comfort that we will be gone. Your getting second place solidifies that concept.

    Will we be hearing more from Joe and Valarie Wilson in the future?

  • Maria3

    Well said, Hillary or Bust. I do not trust Obama and never will. We must be VOCAL AND VIGILANT. This is still America, after all.

  • jwrjr

    I don’t hate Obama. I despise him. Totally different. That being said, I hope his administration works out better than it looks like it will. Not because I could care less about BHO, but rather because if his 4 years “crashes and burns” (remember, figuratively, hopefully not literally) the country will go down with him. I don’t know anybody who wants that.

  • Mercedes

    Disgust is the best way to describe how I feel toward Barack Obama as President of the US. It isn’t hatred; it’s disgust and that disgust is directed as much at the system as the man. I spent the last 8 years turning off the TV every time the voice or face of the Idiot Prince appeared. I will spend the coming years doing the same for the Chicago Fraud. The best I can say about Obama is that he is probably no worse than a long line of Presidents in the last 50 years or so. Anyone who thinks otherwise should check out Seymour Hersh’s “The Dark Side of Camelot” or Russ Baker’s “The Family of Secrets. The Bush Dynasty…”

    As for Obama and his adoring daughters…I can’t reconcile that with his behavior during the campaign, meaning the shoulder brushing, finger flipping arrogance he displayed and seemingly directed toward anyone with the AUDACITY to criticize him.

    We need to hold our leaders or our figureheads, as the case may be, feet to the fire much more than we have in the past.

    Finally, Obama and the Democrats can show their “good intentions” by moving to indict
    Bush/Cheney et al for war crimes. They can reopen the 9/11 Commission; they can open hearing on the origins of the financial crisis; and Obama can make public all of the “personal” records he has hidden up to now. He is not exactly starting with a clean slate.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    So have I been banned now?

  • Maria3

    Shameful!!

    What Recession? The $170 Million Inauguration
    Obama’s Inauguration Has Been Financed Partially by Bailed-Out Wall Street Executives

    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Inauguration/story?id=6665946&page=1

  • PaddyJ

    You’re a generous guy Larry.
    I don’t hate him. I don’t like him or his sleazy underhanded associates and tactics.
    Stealing votes and silencing your critics with lies and money is never to be admired in my book. Neither is vilifying good people for personal gain.
    Hasn’t he already shown you plenty?
    Do you really think he’s all of a sudden going to turn into a guy with real sand?

  • Teresaa

    I don’t despise Obama. We don’t know enough about him to even form an opinion! However, I despise the unearned adolation of the media. He is Pepsi, just a marketing campaign. His logo even looks like Pepsi. The marketing is a hundred times worse than anything we experienced with Bush, and it is frightening.

    I’m longing for the end of this 4 years. Obama won’t meet expections, since expectations are at a ridiculous high. He won’t be re-selected.

    Of course, what comes next may be even worse…

  • The Real HC

    I wish Barack Obama a long life and a speedy trip back to Chicago.

  • KintheNorthwest

    I dont hate Obama, I just do not trust him. I do not feel Obama gained his position legally, not do I feel that he is legally qualified.
    There are too many many holes in his stories, that seem to keep getting amended time and time again.
    I will admit when some of these stories where brought forward on the internet I thought that the hardcore Hillary supporters were really getting wacko.(Remember many of these stories where on your site too Larry. Sometimes your site was the first to even report them).
    However, I have yet to see Obama answer many of the questions brought forth by your site or other sites. Questions that other presidental candidates have openly presented documentation for.
    No Larry I do not hate Obama, but I do not feel that he is America’s President.
    I do hope and pray that the worse that has been predicted about him does not come true.
    God Bless America

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    I guess my other reply got caught in the spam filter. Just checking.

  • candymarl

    Not to mention Obama praised Reagan to the skies and trashed the Clinton presidency. Yet his cabinet consists of many people from the same administration he called racist.

    Amazing the attention span of the American public.

    I don’t believe Obama “has a good heart” either.

    A person with a good heart would have condemned the attacks on Hillary, Palin, and Joe the Plumber. Obama did not.

    A person with a good heart would have publicly called for the end of terrorizing elderly Blacks, Whites, and Latinos by Obama supporters.
    Obama did not.

    A truly good man, like MLK with all of his flaws, would have tried to right these wrongs. Obama never did. Good men don’t stand silent.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    I am with Hillary or Bust. I don’t HAVE to admire someone who I consider a con man, liar, cheat and someone who seems to have zero integrity or honor. He has not honored the words he used to buy votes already, and I feel compassion for the RIGHT people. Not the Obamas, who committed fraud, but the American voters who were subjected to this media bias, onslaught of lies and deception, and the creation of a person that Obama is not and never will be. I feel sadness for my fellow Americans. Period. I am not mired in hatred or bitterness. I hate what has happened to my country, and what is to come. I don’t support liars and won’t support Obama. If that’s what this site becomes, so be it. But I don’t agree and never will.

    Our forefathers founded this great country with DISSENT. They didn’t stand by and wish the King of England well, or give him a hall pass. We wouldn’t be here if that had happened. I’m going to stick with the morals, principles and foundation of America and pray to God that there will be one thing left of it after Obama thrashes us.

    How can I support someone who has already said “the Constitution is a flawed document?” Or that he “wants to immediately change the Declaration of Independence?” I’m sorry, but who does he think he is? Not my President and never will be. Ever. And I thank my fellow patriots who fight against this fraud every day with their tireless letters, lawsuits, etc. Truth is truth. In a year this man will be looking a lot different to the pathetic cult he created.

    PS On the Birth Certificate front…I will believe it when someone shows a REAL one and Obama stops hiding behind lawyers to prevent him from showing it. My GOD what a ridiculous thing. We can’t get our so-called “President” to show his medical records, birth certificate, Columbia or Harvard records, etc. COME ON. This is a joke.

  • Faulkner

    The man is a fraud.
    I am not pleased with his cabinet choices.
    He is going to set HRC up to take the fall if things go poorly internationally.
    I am not ready to let him get away with the crimes he has committed.

  • Lurker

    Thinker,

    “It’s not soaking in bitterness or hatred if it’s the truth.”

    This one line describes perfectly what I couldn’t say. Thank you.

  • Thinker

    I don’t think that he is a decent person either.

    Decent people don’t allow people working for their campaign, and therefore approve of, the attacks against Bill and Hillary Clinton, saying that they are racists. They might be many things, but racists they are not.

    Decent people don’t look the other way when their constituents are living in substandard housing, with no heat, garbage piling up, and then have the owner of that subhousing assist him in buying a mansion that he couldn’t afford on his own.

    Barack Obama is far from being a decent person. He’s always trying to compare himself to MLK, and MLK would have never done that. He would have been out there protesting the treatment of those people in those apartments, not making deals with the slumlord.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Well, you do make a point.

    My favorite example of that is all the Democrats I’ve known (including myself until two years ago) who say, “I hate Hillary.”

    Then, one day for some reason, I had this epiphany: Why did I say “I hate Hillary”? THEN it dawned on me. I said that because, although I had not consciously realized it, the rightwing piling on against HIllary throughout the 1990s and early 2000 years had worked on me unconsciously!

    Once it hit me that I’d let the hard-right unconsciously influence my thinking, I changed in a heartbeat. And i remembered all the times I’d seen Hillary speak with such incredible intelligence and knowledge — those appearances on Charlie Rose in which she knocked every question out of the ballpark. And when I saw her debate performances during the primaries, and she won most of the debates hands-down.

    Problem: Not enough people had that epiphany, and realized how the hard-right had insidiously affected their thinking.

    Lefties are too egotistical to realize that the right could ever influence them. But they’re wrong.

    ::::::

    BUT, as for Larry, you’ve got him pegged ALL wrong. Trust me, if Obama does something wrong or makes an egregious foreign policy decision, the first person who’ll write it up will be Larry. Count on it. So don’t worry about Larry getting influenced. He has a clear head.

  • Texas Playwright

    I’m sure BHO loves his daughters. I’m equally sure he and his handlers/DNC/MSM ran a corrupt, misogynist campaign, which shows a pattern of personal and political abuse of our democracy and of women. I don’t hate him personally; I despise much of what he says and does. He and his cabal are playing fast and loose with our Bill of Rights and our economy.

    Selections of Bush in 2000 and 2004 emboldened Brazile, Dean, Reid, Pelosi, Axelrod, Obama, etc. to commit and/or actively or passively support massive caucus fraud, buying of delegates and denying a fair convention in Denver. I care very much that he hasn’t produced his real BC, college records, IL State Senate records–the pattern of deceit is telling. Why not show the real BC and be done with it? This same deception exists in his associations with Wright, Ayers, Rezko, etc.

    We are creeping toward fascism and bho and his thugs in and out of office have a lot to do with it. Big Business, Big Media and Big Government are controlling the money, the news and the power. bho the fraud is very much part of this pattern. Blogs like this help educate WE the People so We the People can listen, learn and act in the best interests of our democracy.

  • KintheNorthwest

    His inauguration is expected to go higher than 200 million. News reports are already saying that the taxpayers portion is expected to be 100 million, probably more or double.

    Remember guys thats not counting the money that many private people on spending on balls and etc.

  • EWard

    Thinker

    Ditto to your comments!

    Larry,

    I am not an expert on Presidential politics. However, many of us that voted for both HC and JM are appalled at Obama because of his actions.

    It is hard for me to support someone that doesn’t seem to have core values. Let’s just look at Obama’s attempt to compare himself to Lincoln. He’s riding the same train as Lincoln or eating the same meal as Lincoln. What in the world is that suppose to prove?

    The 12 years before Lincoln became President, he was forming the Republican Party and running for the Senate. He debated Douglass, had a fantastic ability to laugh at himself, and understood the laws of this country. Does anyone see that in Obama?

    The most disturbing thing about his incoming administration is this “cult” of personality built around him. Journalists and news outlets in this nation have perpetuated the myths.

    How does a nation trust any leader when so much misinformation is represented as truth?

  • stodgie

    i have deep misgivings about president elect obama. i don’t hate him. i mistrust him and despise the actions he and his team took in the election. that doesn’t bode well for me to admire him during his presidency. i am subject to change as i was with clinton. my deepest dislike is for the obama supporters who attacked hillary, shouted racism, and continue to do so. larry you are to be commended for your forthright and willingness to open you mind and heart to this new administration. but please understand that we are deeply fearful. we have been called racists, bitters, and a number of unmentionable things. we are told to shut up and get over it. i for one don’t plan to do either. i agree ith showing respect on here while stating our views. i agree with the unwarranted calls for any attack on mr. obama. that being said, let’s hope we all can get along. first of all we are americans and we need to put our country first. if president elect obama doesn’t do that, i’ll be out front yelling, screaming, walking the streets and yelling from the rooftops about it. the remaining posters here who support obama can sometimes be rather rude and insulting so there is that.

  • Lurker

    I’m sorry that this is off topic, but this is wonderful news.

    Bush Commutes Sentences for Two Former Border Patrol Agents

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/19/bush-commutes-sentences-border-patrol-agents/

  • Anthony

    I’m don’t hate him (yet)

    I simply have no confidence in him, don’t believe a word he says, have connected the dots in all his nefarious doings as a Community Organizer in Chicago, have had posts published on SAVAGE POLITICS with clear links to really shady behavior, and still I stay my hand.

    Don’t despair. The latest directive from him to cut Bishop Robinson’s prayer from the HBO broadcast (and that was HBO’s official explanation) has a large part of his constituency hating him now.

    I guess a few more of these facts finding their way into the sunlight will give me the momentum to hate what he’s doing as much as I hated what the Bush administration did to our country.

    Hope springs eternal, I guess. I’ll catch up soon

  • IndyBoomer

    My anger and attitude toward The One will stay with me for years; it runs too deep. That fraud will never be my president. I do not trust him. I believe he is a liar, a cheat, a narcissist with a sense of entitlement and is setting a new standard for corruption in politics. He and his cronies paid his way to get on the gravy train for years – with our tax dollars. He set back women’s rights by decades, due to the way he and his campaign treated Hillary and Sarah and women in general. Most of all, I am angry that he deprived me of the opportunity to be HAPPY that a democrat is going to be in the White House. I plan to observe tomorrow as a National Day of Mourning.

    Thanks for providing a forum for open expression of our thoughts and ideas, Larry. It must be tough to manage and moderate a blog like this in such turbulent times.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    I hear you and do believe that Larry will be fair and act as a watchdog if necessary.

    I think it may have been upsetting to see some folks make threats here…but just remember, some of us are VERY upset about the inauguration.

    Actually, upset isn’t quite the word. For me, it is more about being deeply disturbed.

    I am not celebrating, I am in mourning right now for my country.

  • Elle

    It is strangly ironic from NQ to be on the protective measure side here when it comes to Obambis citizenship.
    This article here it quite opposite the many written here at NQ during the pre-election phase supporting the theory in detail that Obambi may not be an american citizen.I support and have been a NQ reader for some time now,but the statement here and the past articles written here about Obambi and his status of citizenship do contradict and confuse the previous standing a great deal.

  • candymarl

    Thank you. Well said.

  • RedWhiteAnd Blue

    You are correct. A good man does not do the things you listed.

    But a politically expedient man does.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    I am beyond mourning. And I can’t manufacture feelings of hopey dopey no matter whose words I hear or read. This is my pain and I am suffering so much it’s almost unbearable. I am only glad that my father and grandfather are in the ground, not watching this horror story.

    As for the threats, maybe those were from Obots trying to skew the perception of this site. I didn’t see the threats so I can’t speak to them. But I know there is a long way between wishing the President bodily harm, which of COURSE I don’t and would NEVER say, and embracing him.

  • Mandelay

    Sorry Larry, I have a lot of respect for you and for this site, but what you’ve written gives a very, very strong impression that supports what “HillaryorBust” has written. Truthfully, when I read you post I was very puzzled. But I’ve been seeing this stuff on other sites that were very critical of Barack Obama and I’m beginning to wonder if bloggers are being “leaned on” by the Secret Service or other agencies. Like you, I do not condone expressions of hatred or bigotry and I applaud you for calling it out. But what you’ve written — especially “Here’s what I would like the readers of No Quarter to do–let’s analyze and comment on what he does now going forward.” — well that doesn’t sound right to me. And I think that’s what might have pushed the button on some of the posts here. I for one cannot forget Obama’s context … his words and deeds throughout his academic and professional career. He created that context, not his parents or grandparents, etc. And I think the adoration his daughters have for him is irrelevant with regard to his political career. Many daughters, including John Gotti’s daughter, have express similar admiration for their dads as “good guys.” And that’s ok but I don’t see how that has any bearing on how we might view Mr. Obama.
    As for his “citizenship,” I also think he’s probably a legal citizen at this time. So is Governor Arnold S. of Calif. But Arnold cannot be POTUS. And I question, as do others, whether or not he’s in compliance with the Constitutional requirements for POTUS to be a “natural born” citizen. Like the questions about his academic background (which you raised) , he could have easily resolved all of this with a vault copy of his birth certificate, which is said to exist but which has never been produced for the public. I think all Presidents-Elect should produce that document. I don’t know why the courts have not insisted on this. In Obama’s case we are told to ignore this requirement and many feel the proper documentation has not been produced.
    Larry, I agree with just about everything you’ve written above, except for the “…now going forward” part. I think it’s very, very important to remember Obama’s recent and distant past … he has repeatedly exhibited all the behavior of a flim-flam man and I think he’d like nothing better than for us to forget what he said and did prior to January 20th, 2009. My conscience tells me to remember and never forget. And if you choose to call me an idiot as well, that’s ok.

  • DanNY

    Hillary or Bust is not an idiot Larry and she can read and write too. Crooks and Liars and Americablog got into big trouble when the owners of the site and monitors started asserting “leadership”, strong opinions against others who don’t agree and insisting everyone write only the things they deamed worthy of Obama. If you want us to only write worthy things in your opinion about the one, you had better start banning your loyal readers now.

    This is America and another blog will be happy to have dissenters.

    Larry – Don’t take it to personally. We will all be happy and write nice things about some of the things this new administration will do and other things they will do will dismay and bother us to no end and we’ll write about that too.

    I don’t believe any of your NQ regular readers are racist or bigotted!!!! the Obama administration on the other hand and most of his supporters including many pundits are going out of their way to make him into the FIRST AFRICAN PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES and that is insane. They must not like being American. They want us all to be Africans tomorrow. I say divided we fall. Obama should address this issue of “African Americans” VS Americans and let the world know that we are all Americans. I don’t go around insisting that people recognise me as an Irish Scottish, Welsh, Indian, ect. American.

    I see Obama only as a fallable and imperfect American President just like all the others. I’m not happy that he is President and I know HE IS PRESIDENT because I FIRMLY believe Hillary would have been the a better, the best American President ever. Now we have to suffer through mediocrity again!

    Good Luck Larry trying to get the class to shut up and behave.

    Call me an idiot – I just dislike everything about the Obama administration and the media hype they pour out on him is discusting.

  • Jan

    I dunno, when you hate someone you give them control of your head, allow them to feed your head.

    Why bother?

    As with the Obama “subset” of PR control, why bother with them, why become emotionally invested with someone who considers the word “cool” to be a thoughtful, in depth objective analysis?

    Why bother with someone grossly unlearned, who must use google to randomly generate a quote upon which he can build a speech?

    That’s sad, not worth the time, and not a threat.

    But mocking them when they’re stupid — well, that’s different.

  • KintheNorthwest

    Decent peoples’ resumes dont contain the list of friends that Obama’s resume does.
    ( I know this is off topic but one of Obama’s under the bus people was refused entry into Canada–http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/573462

  • MG

    well, we all knew GWB Jr was a C student at Yale. His service in Tx National Guard was questioned and scrutinzed. Everyone talked the Sub Abuse issues to death. And ex-gov of Tx warned everyone that W was born with a Silver foot in his mouth. Yeah and the Voters all ignored these warnings and look at what happen. Let’s not discussed the filthy polictics of Rove during the primaries (painting McCain unjustly with Falshoods). I could go on but….look at the results of the last 8 yrs. And YOU KNOW WHAT, he had experience!! He was the Gov of Tx.
    History has repeated it’s self! Except O has no experience. Oh Yes! He has proven to be a Master manipulator. He betray those who have helped him along. Do you remember the movie the Canidate?
    When you apply for a Job potential employers like to see your past achievements to see how well or what you could bring to the table. He hasn’t shown us any. But he has hiden a lot.

  • Oisafraud

    I despise Obama, his cult followers, associates, friends, if he has any. I stopped listening to NPR, my beloved news sources. At the stores, I don’t pickup any magazine with Obama’s picture on it. The image of him makes me sick. The fact that he’s going to be president starting tomorrow is disgusting. This whole show and production of him is a complete fraud. I’ll never never ever like or support this fraud. As an American, it’s my civic duty to oppose him and everything he stands for as long as he’s in the WH.

  • T-R

    Obama plays the foulest of methods to attain his desires, has no integrity or loyalty to anyone save himself – all the while playing the part of some “transcendent” force.

    He is an empty-shell, a narcissist, passive-aggressive, and I have absolutely no idea what his genuine point-of-view is, or if he even has one, on anything (though there are indications from his associates: Wright et al).

    But who know? Zero integrity and bamboozling could be just the thing for the job.

  • HARP

    Hate? I have never hated anyone, but to give Obama any credence is like going on a date with the guy that just raped you.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    LMAO Harp. Good one!

  • The Real HC

    Stalin loved his daughter – there are charming pictures of him hugging her with what appears to be genuine affection both ways.

    Hitler cared about animal welfare and the environment and was a vegetarian.

    Bad people can have good in them, so these are not things I use to judge performance.

    I will always judge Obama by his campaign, so I will never wish his presidency well. I wish America well. I wish Obama gone in 4.

  • stodgie

    gracios dios! thanks for the input, lurker. i thought he might do that. welcome news!

  • Oisafraud

    Tomorrow is “National Day of Mourning”.
    I agree with that 200%.

  • Mandelay

    LOL! No, you’re fine. But maybe I’ve been banned. Take care.

  • Thinker

    I agree with you and Hillary or Bust.

    Decent people who are on the “up&up” don’t hire a team of lawyers to block the release of their birth certificate, medical records, Occidental records, Columbia records, they aren’t on record saying that they were born in two different hospitals, his Kenyan grandmother is going around saying she witnessed his birth there, etc.

    Something is wrong!

    It’s as simple as that.

  • SPSUZEE

    Lately, I have been wistfully thinking that it would be nice to be a believer, like all of the Obots I know. Its hard not to be touched by their enthusiasm for hope and change. Their optimism appears to be contagious, but I can’t seem to catch it.
    When I look at the faces of the AA’s in the crowds on tv, especially the chidren, I almost wish I could have their blind faith. But I am much too old to believe in Santa Clause or the tooth fairy, and I simply cannot trust the charlatan and poser who will be sworn in tomorrow as our President. And because so many have caught the Obamamania, I believe it is up to those of us, who have educated ourselves about the dangers inherent in this insanity, to remain vigilant, and ready to defend our constitution against the attacks which are likely to come.

  • sowsear

    Obama is not a decent man, and he is a dangerous man, trying now to promote himself into a life position. Already his minions in Congress are trying to change the Constitution.
    He has lied, cheated, stolen, suppressed the truth, purged records, and associated with other corrupt and unAmerican individuals. His nomination and election were fraught with fraud. If the best thing you can say about him is that his daughters love him, I am not impressed. I would guess that most children, even of gangsters, love their fathers. Hitler’s mistress loved him too, right to the bitter end.

  • allimom99

    True. Actually hating someone means you care in some way. I don’t hate him personally; I don’t know him. But I am sad that so very many of my fellow citizens have been taken in by the marketing campaign.

    I must hope that he is successful, only because if he fails, it will mean disaster for us a a nation. We can’t afford another 4 years of Bush-style governing. We will all have to fight to try and get him to do the right thing, since what is right is often not politically expedient – unknown territory for this guy.

    I AM glad that Hillary is in the mix. If he has any brains at all, he will LISTEN to her. We will be watching!

  • cc

    exactly, I think after being conned and lied to so many times, folks should and have every right to feel any way they want about Obama. You can NEVER trust a pathological liar.

    sorry Larry, but your comment about two little girls adoring their father, that’s simply ridiculous! Children by nature at that age most all, and I mean ALL, love their dads. wait till they get to their teenage years and have countless years of being let down by BO, then you’ll start to see the real story.

    personally, I think Larry wants to work in the BO administration, back along with Hillary, which I can understand. However, I think larry’s worried that because so many of the posters here are negative towards BO this fact will become a problem.

  • Astra14

    Thank you, Thinker, my thoughts exactly!!

    It was a point I was trying to make this weekend to a relative (who may be losing his job and thinks the sun rises and sets in Obama) that Obama spends extravagantly while others end up on the unemployment line. If Obama wanted to show real leadership, he’d donate all these dollars he is supposedly raising for his inauguaration to organizations which will help those in need, because more and more people are losing their jobs. There is nothing wrong with a quiet, simple inauguaration! That would indeed show Change and the ability to really lead during these harsh economic times.

    Personally, I think if he gave himself a cut in pay and ensured Congress and the Senate also got a cut in pay, I’d be impressed and willing to give the guy a chance! I don’t see that happening.

    Also, I have to agree with you, also, Thinker, regarding his children. Just because children love and adore their parents doesn’t mean the parents are good people. I’ve known people who’ve worked in child services dealing with devastated children taken away from the parents they adored.

  • Jan

    The lack of ability to correctly read the situation, much less change course in mid stream is telling.

    They’re obtuse, or already involved in chaotic power struggles.

    I guess we will see how it plays out.

    Axelrod isn’t Leon Panetta, or John Podesta.

  • serena

    No he is not a good and decent man. If he was he would have played by the rules and won all of his races fair and square.He has never waged or won a fair election ever.He surrouds himself with crooks,terrorists and America hating radicals.

    He lies constantly and blatantly.The man has not one moral fiber in his body and is more than happy to pull out the race card when it suits his purpose. I will never be swayed by all the pretty speeches he reads from his teleprompter or his charisma and drop dead sexy and gorgeous looks that I have never seen but have been told he has.

    He is a corrupt politician as most all of them are. He just happens to be the master of the game having been taught all the tricks by the Chicago Daly machine.We are expected to believe that even though he lived and worked there so long and ran in all the pay for play cliques he some how stayed the only virgin in the whore house. This is nothing short of a miracle.But then this whole strange election has been nothing but a fairy tale.

    I can never forgive him for the treatment of Hillary Clinton and the disrespect for all women that he showed during the primary.That he allowed the DNC and the media to bash her too,says what kind of person he really is.

    The rigging of the caucuses and votes as well as the RBL fiasco that stole delegates and votes from Hillary were done knowingly with his approval.Yes everyone wants to win but there have to be limits in how low you are willing to stoop.

    I have no doubt that his children love him. Hell, even Hitler’s dog loved him,too.I don’t doubt that he is a good father to them.But that is no reason to say he is a decent man,especially after what he have seen him do to his long time friends and relatives that are of no more use to him.

    The flipping the bird,brushing off the shoulders along with the sexist dog whistles and woman hating rap music will never be forgotten or forgiven by this gun and religion clinging, bitter,typical white woman.

    I do wish him well because he must succeed for the good of the country.We have to bring every one together and get this country back on the right track. But just like G.W.Bush, he will never be my President and I will never like him.But I have to hope and pray that he will do a good job.

  • http://Godhelpusall lee M

    I don’t believe tis is the real Larry Johnson. He doesn’t talk to people this way. The real Larry could say the same thing in s more polite manner and I don’t think the real Larry would use caps.

  • Cindy

    Jan—-While you’re busy singing Kum-ba-yah, women are dying in this country because of men like Obama, who think rap and hip-hop songs that degrade women are “cool”.
    I own my emotions, thank you, and will love and hate whom I choose.

  • nationalert

    I understand your wish to be rooted in dealing with things as they are, rather than what you wish them to be, but is this really the point here?

    To extend Harp’s excellent analogy, you may be forced to go on the subsequent date, as one is forced into rape, but to do it ala Patricia Hearst style is asking a bit much. I’m stunned.

  • Thinker

    Brava!!

    :)

  • Bob

    Larry are you trying to pivot like Obama. Have you been manipulative like Obama? It is easy to pull for the side that is winning. What you don’t realize is that many people on your site have been Democrats their entire life when it was not cool to be a Democrat. Many of us have fought for civil rights our entire life and now we get stuck with what we consider a candidate that obtained the presidency through dishonesty and with absolutely no substance. Larry maybe you are fearful for what you created on this site. Character does have consequence.

  • PKJayne

    Yes, it is as simple as that.

  • cc

    larry, one question for you?? doesn’t the fact that bo couldn’t be bothered to attend his grandmother’s or his mother’s funerals, tell you ALOT about the man’s LACK of character? there’s only one word for bo’s actions – PATHETIC!

    his grandmother raised him, gave him a GREAT education, but he couldn’t work in flying back for one day after the election to attend her memorial? sorry, holding a moment of silence for her on christmas eve, 2 and half months after she died doesn’t cut it.

    Life doesn’t always happen around BO’s timetable. I’m sure BO thought it was very inconsiderate of her to die just days before the election.

    Following that point, when BO’s grandmother was dying, why didn’t meeeechelle and the two girls go say goodbye? EVERY GRANDMOTHER wants to see her grandchildren. again very telling into the lack of character on part of the obama family.

    Larry, i think you are conveniently overlooking these glaring lapses of character, just like the whacked out liberal media, simply because you care about Hillary Clinton and want to see her succeed and possibly even work with her or for her again.

    Not trusting, or NEVER trusting BO, has nothing to do with our support of Hillary. she may be working for him, but they are NOT the same.

    furthermore, what happened last year was blatant fraud and a complete injustice, we NEVER have to accept the american people being conned by the fraud, the primary being stolen from hillary, and our constitution trampled.

    lastly..your comment about the citizenship issue isn’t quite correct, while bo may be a citizen, the problem and you know it, is he was either born with dual citizenship or gave up his citizenship after being adopted by his stepfather when he attended an indonesian school. these facts, since he won’t prove his requested his citizenship back, or give us the truth about his birth records, are a PROBLEM.

  • Bob

    Has my comment been deleted— There was nothing wrong with the post other than it challenged your position

  • PKJayne

    It gets more vulgar daily.

  • http://baddemocrat08.wordpress.com/ obamastolemyboyfriend

    Hi Hillary or Bust,

    I was banned an am back. I had some ‘splainin’ to do and apologizing. I, too, like to air my opinions, but I just want to tell everyone that I behaved like an idiot and it puts Larry and everyone here on the spot when we post hateful things. I’m trying to fight to keep free speech, but that doesn’t mean we can say anything. So, anyway, I hear you H or B! Don’t be like me. The group here is like family and we don’t want to cause big headaches for these hard workers.

    I’m back and behaving. That sounds like a good blog name!

  • msliberal

    It will be A cold day in hell before I call him my president. All I have to do is remember May 30, 2008.

    And I will watch the weather channel before I will watch him.

    Hopefully, as I read this morning, the Supreme Court will step up to the plate and uphold our constitution.

  • sowsear

    Exactly, and I’m stunned that we would be asked to become part of the problem, rather than part of the solution.

  • JudyR

    At this point, it would be stupid not to wish Obama well because if he tanks, then it probably means the country will tank. As long as he treats Hillary well, I will try to give him the benefit of the doubt, for now. Our country needs a successful leader NOW. I am going into this with my eyes wide open, however, and certainly won’t be into blind adulation. Our country is in a big jam and everybody is going to have to pitch in with ideas and suggestions. Obama will actually need constructive criticism for the sake of the country because he doesn’t have a lot of time to learn on the job with the state the country is in. However, spiteful grousing isn’t going to help and will just distract from the important work at hand.

  • http://hillaryorbust.com/2009/01/thoughts-pre-inauguration/ Thoughts Pre-Inauguration | Hillary or Bust

    [...] Some well-meaning Hillary supporters are now asking for some reconciliation, but I do not agree with that. I wouldn’t have given Nixon a pass, nor would I give Obama one either. But I fear some of us are suffering from a Stockholm Syndrome of sorts. With all the gushing and concerts and feel good rhetoric, it’s hard not to get swept up a little. It takes strength to resist the brainwashing and remember the truth underneath the manufactured image. [...]

  • KintheNorthwest

    PS On the Birth Certificate front…I will believe it when someone shows a REAL one and Obama stops hiding behind lawyers to prevent him from showing it. My GOD what a ridiculous thing. We can’t get our so-called “President” to show his medical records, birth certificate, Columbia or Harvard records, etc. COME ON. This is a joke.

    Will Obama do what Bush did and use his powers to totally block any of these recods from the public

  • Jan

    To deliberately sabotage Obama is to sabotage America.

    Why would anyone wish to harm their country – it’s our house.

    It isn’t about EGO, (or personality disorders), it is about the welfare of the United States.

    Understood in that context, it makes sense.

    Hate is what forces any situation to denigrate into hapless chaos, but I guess it’s all we’ve seen over the past 30 years.

  • PKJayne

    I just can’t take seriously a guy who needs a placard on the front of a podium that reads “Office of the President Elect”

    600,000,000 dollars, the cost of Democracy.

  • Seattle Moss

    Thank you Larry,
    I may not have voted for Obama, but I wish him the best as this effects all of us in a big way.
    Moreover, because he picked Hillary and many others from the Clinton administration all I can do is hope for the best.
    In fact I have always supported Hillary and look forward to her tremendous success in her new position.

  • T-R

    Yours is pretty close to my view of things. I will hope that things go exceedingly well for Barack but will always know that he is a fraud.

    So what can I do? Pursue my life with full vigor and watch very little tv – I can’t stand to look at him.

  • sowsear

    It might be pertinent for me to ask, “How long do we have to wait for this sowsear to become a silk purse?”

  • politicsIsdirty

    Hate is quite a strong word.

    Most people don’t like how he made it into the presidency. Would you like you daughter to marry a spoiled brat like Barack? Surely not. Since childhood he got everything he wanted by his charm and not by his accomplishment. His grandmother spoiled him and gave him everything he wanted. Then years after that he got his wish to be president because the media promoted him and kept negative things about him from the electorate. Most people who voted for him don’t even know the way he voted for abortion.

    That cause a lot of discomfort to most mature, thinking individuals like me.

  • basil

    Thanks so much for maintaining this site, Larry, but I disagree.

    I neither respect, trust nor admire Barack Hussein Obama. (That IS how he intends to be sworn in, tomorrow)

    What he displayed during the campaign is the real deal. He is an egotistical, race-baiting, narcissistic, meglomaniacal fraud.

    He has shown his true colors and there’s nothing he can do to un-show them.

    For me to wish him well would be like the girl in the snake fable who, after being persuaded by the snake that he wouldn’t bite her is shocked when he strikes.

    When she asks why he bit her, the snake replies, “well, what did you expect? I’m a snake.”

    “Barack Obama appears to be a decent person with generally good intentions.”

    He may appear ‘decent’ when things are going his way and his ‘intentions’ may seem ‘generally good’ when people agree with him.

    Personally, I expect to see a lot of our freedoms erode during the next couple of years as anyone not enthralled by him is thrown under the bus.

    “His two daughters tell an important story. They adore their father. That tells me a lot”

    Sorry, but that doesn’t mean a thing. I worked with thousands of kids. They all love their dads when they’re young.

    “let’s analyze and comment on what he does now going forward. If he resorts to tactics or behaviors exhibited during the campaign–positive or negative–you should feel free to point it out and express your feelings and thoughts about the matter.”

    He’s already resorted to his campaign tactics. Remember the ‘Ich ein Berliner’ farce? The Obama Seal replacing the American flag on his plane? The Obama seal at the governor’s meeting where he spoke?

    The immaculation tomorrow is just more of the same. $170,000,000? Comparing himself to Lincoln, Kennedy, Truman?

    And he hasn’t even done anything yet?

    But I do have to hand him the prize for first-class gall. As PT Barnum said, ‘There’s a sucker born every minute.’

  • Maria3

    Well Said! When his daughters are old enough to read and understand… how Obama cultivated and encouraged an environment of sexism abuse towards Clinton and Palin for political expendiency with his own actions and silence. I am certain, his girls will have a lot of unpleasant and hurtful questions.

  • Diana L. C.

    Helen with a T,

    I am with you. I have transferred most of my anger to the Democratic Party at this point. I am very angry that the party cared so little about holding a one person/one vote primary. I am angry that the DNC seemed to be playing “Big Brother” throughout the primary and general election. It was a total wake up call for naive me. It’s hard changing so many long years of thinking one way. I have always hated cynicism, but I am now cynical. I now believe, as I never believed before, that 99.9% of all politicians are liars and manipulators.

    I do not hate O, but I do not respect him either. I did not approve the means by which he achieved the ends he was after: getting himself in the white house. I don’t even believe he is a person with good intentions because I believe his intentions are only to glorify himself. If I believed he had a sincere and real vision for helping the country, I would like him. I don’t believe that, however. No one who would abuse the generally held democratic views of fair elections the way his campaign did will never get my respect, even IF he should do one thing good for the country.

    And, like many others, I could point out many children who loved fathers who were tyrants and generally all-around nasty public figures, so the argument about his daughters does not hold water as far as I am concerned.

    I too now have to fend off the solicitors for the Democratic Party since they obviously have my name and number on lists in many places as a possible source of money. I feel I have been terribly used by the Party since ’72.

    My real efforts lately have been to turn my thoughts away from politics and simply concentrate on my efforts in the field of animal rights and animal protection. The thing about that movement is that it crosses political and national boundaries. A true Israeli animal rights worker has more in common with a Palestinian animal rights worker than do most people in any one political party, in any religion, or in any country.

    The political scene is now nothing but a meaningless show as far as I am concerned. I am only interested in them now in regard to if they will act on the issues I lobby for. If they’re Republican or Democrat now means nothing to me. I am heading off on Feb. 12 to participate in conjunction with several animal rights groups I support. We will converge at my state government offices to lobby for our current issues.

    Don’t ever ask me again to serve as a delegate to a party assembly or convention. Don’t ever ask me to walk the streets to pass out campaign literature for any party candidate. It’s a huge imposition on my time, and it would mean that again I was letting the party manipulate me.

  • basil

    Why don’t my posts show up?

  • Jan

    No one is asking for reconciliation.

    Obama wants to redo social security.

    With the Rezko convictions, and history, it would BE silly to trust him, it would be silly to trust him near ANY money –including that of Iraq, and Afghanistan.

    So, should people work to expose him like the old time, equitable, REAL journalists, or should they just flip the coin, and “hate” like the Obots love?

  • Oisafraud

    I’m confused. Can you help me out here. I thought all the Obama cults have been telling the world and blinds that could hear that Obama is the second coming of Christ Himself. The Queen of tv called him “the ONE we have been waiting for” Now out of the sudden Obama is telling Whites that he’s Lincoln and Blacks that he’s MLK. Let’s just look at Obama’s attempt to compare himself to Lincoln. He’s riding the same train as Lincoln or eating the same meal as Lincoln. What in the world is that suppose to prove? This’s getting out of hand. I’m not even going to tell you how much money they are spending on this 4 days event of coronation.

  • Mandelay

    Don’t know but if you find out where your post went, maybe mine is also there! :-)

  • Jan

    It’s in the spam filter, Bob, email Susan, she’ll rescue it.

  • helenk

    Tomorrow all the flags should fly at half mast and upside down as a distress signal.
    This con gang is destroying democracy.
    As a person backtrack has to answer to a higher power for his actions.
    As a politician he has to answer to the American people.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • Sandi78

    Very well said.

    I’d love to agree wholeheartedly with Larry, after all I’ve been a Democrat for so many years. I’ve been not-very-patiently waiting for the end of George W. Bush’s term like all of you. But I can’t forget the primaries and really, I don’t think we should forget them. We can’t let that happen again, but as long as the Party “leaders” are the cause, I see no way of preventing it.

    Obama himself is just as serena describes. He has used each elected position as a steeping stone for the next without troubling himself to do the job he was elected to do first. He has already started his campaign for re-election in 2012 and he hasn’t even been sworn in yet. What a guy. The only question is what the heck will he do in 2012? No higher position to run for really.

  • Mercedes

    I agree with almost every word except getting the country back on track may require handing out some justice to the evildoers of the last administration, not the least of whom are Mr Bush and Mr Cheney themselves. Sad to say though, the way things look now, peace and justice may require nothing short of a miracle. I get the distinct impression that Barack does not have the capacity to lead us down that road, his messianic image notwithstanding.

  • KintheNorthwest

    I just hope taht Hillary makes it through the year without landing under the bus.

  • C.S.

    Can I op out of using my tax money to pay for Mr. Soertoro/Obama’s coronation?

    I agree with those who think Obama is not a “good guy”. I don’t care what name he stole the election under he did not “win” and therefore is not a legitimate president. And anyone who says it doesn’t matter how he got the job is undercutting our democracy.

    We let the selection of George W. Bush go and now we’re ranting and raving over what his 8 years did to our country and our reputation. We can’t get those 8 years back and most of us patriotic Americans don’t want to risk adding another 4 to our sentence. The office of President of the United States is not a “learning experience” for baby politician Obama. People die from inexperienced such as GWB saying he was tired of swatting al Qaida flies in March and then we experienced the largest attack on U. S. soil since Pearl Harbor in September.

    The mysterious candidate taking the title of president has only been in political office full time for 2 years, part time Illinois state senator for 7! Soertoro/Obama has more than enough baggage of his own that if he was a real African American and his name had been Joe Smith and he was pals with the Chicago political machine, he wouldn’t have stood a chance of being invited to Our White House, let alone selected as chief executive.

    And that is why I don’t like him and will never see him as president the same way I never saw GWB as a legitimate president. There is nothing any of us can do to make this wrong right until we admit we must fix our corrupt election process to again become a democracy of the People, by the People and for the People.

  • basil

    madaley,

    My post strongly disagreed with the notion we should give BO a chance.

    :evil:

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Speaking of DEATH THREATS…How about all the DEATH THREATS that Hillary voters and delegates got? How about all of the threats of bodily harm and the threats of job loss? It’s despicable. And I will continue to fight against this so called “Presidency” until they pry all of my freedoms and cash out of my cold, dead hands.

  • AF catfish

    Great post Larry I believe Obama has good intentions. The media hype is maddening, his transition has been exactly what you said – typical.

    But you’re wrong about his daughters – they are very young, too young for us to read anything from their behavior. Of course they love their dad. Children of narcissists will always seek more attention from the narcissist parent than they receive.

    I think the well-matured, well-adjusted brilliant Chelsea Clinton we saw this year told us a lot about her parents.

  • basil

    I whittled the post down to a couple of sentences.

    For me to wish him well would be like the girl in the snake fable who, after being persuaded by him that he wouldn’t bite her is shocked when he strikes.

    When she asks why he bit her, the snake replies, “well, what did you expect? I’m a snake.”

  • I’m a Linda too

    Well said and written Larry.

    And I surely, as should be clear for most of the readers here, we deal in the real world. We don’t irrationally react to ideas of or shallow symbols. We must have a bit of Missouri, Show Me, in us. We seek results, not empty words.

    I very much did not like and still do not like his lack of character in many other areas, exception being his personal life with his daughters. He has lied, used, pandered.

    I don’t like that other character flaw of personal destruction of others and any means for his end win, sexism, race playing and baiting and demeaning and condescention with personal mockery.

    But as we move on we get to now witness what he will do, vs all those empty “just campaign rhetoric” promises and pledges, so we get to see if his history, his votes, his past actions will be repeated.

    So far, Obama is failing miserably there too. I agree that he has made some good appointments and also that he has made some bad appointments. But now we get down to what matters. RESULTS. ACTIONS. KEEPING PROMISES. He isn’t doing too well there either, is he? He has managed to flip and backtrack on just so many of his key campaign issues and it’s mind boggling.

    The latest being while he is telling Middle Class, Mainstreet that we “have to sacrifice” and that our bad econonomy “is getting worse”, he goes out and spends the most ridiculous amount of money to leave the taxpayers footing the bill.

    And then we learn he will be backtracking from his Iraq occupation pledges and Social Security, Medicare, freezing help to Middle Class, but paying back his special interest and Corporate donors with giving them breaks and help and not willing to be president to sign an executive order rescinding Bush’s ban on stem cell research and funding.

    Obama is continuously striking out, but we have 4 years to watch.

    I sure hope eventually, even half. of his promoters start demanding he start doing what he sold them a campaign of.

    Yes, thank goddess we do pay attention to real things and issues. We don’t believe the hype. Unfortunately, Obama is proving us right.

  • msliberal

    I am not going to wish him well, or any of those that got us into this mess, and/or got him to where he is. Both parties are to blame. This is a lesson in life that some people have to learn. The media doesn’t control this country. And until people start thinking for themselves, let the chips fall where they may. If it takes a civil war, riots and the like, bring it on.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Well, I am assuming that part of it is already taken care of. SCOTUS won’t even do their job. The job we pay them to do. They are my biggest disappointment in this mess. My husband is a judge. We both just scratch our heads and say WTF all day long.

  • Foggynuts

    I’m still waiting for the promised Whitey tape so I can judge whether to vote for him.

  • cc

    a man with a good heart would have gone to say goodbye to his grandmother, especially since SHE raised him, when she was dying and been their for her funeral..a man with a good heart would have brought his children to say goodbye to their grandmother.

    a man with a “good heart’ would have attended his own mother’s funeral regardless of what she did to him.

    bo does not have a “good heart.” he is cold, calculating and a narcissist.

  • http://tojo toni

    Thank you, Hillary or Bust. I was going to write an immediate response to this article but decided to read a couple comments first. I am so glad that I did as the second post, yours, says everything that I initially felt upon reading Larry’s post. I was especially happy to see you pick up on the part about his daughters and your argument is well put. Meaning no disrespect, I am wondering if Larry is also a father?

    There is little to add to your comment except, I do not hate nor wish harm on Obama. Do I wish him well? Absolutely not. That is like wishing the fox well because, gosh darn it, he is already in the hen house so why not go along with it. I wish our country and it’s citizens well as we are going to need it. I am joining you, Hillary or Bust, in being being vocal and vigilant.

  • sarahfdavis

    I despise fraud, lies, exploitation of hate, hustlin’, arrogance, cheating, egomania, vengefulness.
    I hate the game. And i hate the player.

    Saying, “let’s move on and see what he does going forward” is ignoring horrible behavior. Do we want to continue to do this?

    I hate him and everything he stands for.

  • sarahfdavis

    I thought you guys were inspired to create a new political atmosphere.
    but here you are pathetically trolling with you’re sad little tired snark.
    Go save the world, you fraud.

  • sarahfdavis

    I thought you guys were inspired to create a new political atmosphere.
    but here you are pathetically trolling with your sad little tired snark.
    Go save the world, you fraud.

  • http://tojo toni

    Wow. That was a little harsh to Hillary or Bust. I don’t think you are the real Larry Johnson either. The real Larry started a wonderful and much needed discussion so stop the name calling.

  • Ms.Apprehension

    Dear Smart,Kind,Thoughtful,Brave,Industrious Larry,

    NoQuarter is your baby. You’re very protective of it. You want it to thrive and become influential, I would be willing to bet. We who take the time to comment appropriately are passionate, caring people as well as you and the other contributors and “owners” of this site. As of this past election cycle all the rules of the game have changed in my view. The MSM in particular, and, the ultra liberal influential political blogs aren’t playing by the old journalism rules anymore. Instead, they are into propaganda not real investigative journalism. When MSM political journalists and reporters aren’t copying each others leads, or plagerizing each other, or writing fiction and portraying it as realism they are slavishly regurgitating the latest press releases verbatim.

    If it weren’t for the blogosphere I’d have nowhere else to turn for political news and insightful analysis since I have forsaken the MSM. Your website is the first place I turn to after I’ve turned on my computer. I would be devastated if it were to change significantly, or worse yet, end. My question to all the participants here is how do we protect sites such as this one? We must remain civil with one another and at the same time vigilant against liars and cheats who also participate here. That has always been the case when using media, but it’s really crucial now because the web has become just that: a place in which one can become entangled and poisoned if not very, very careful. What I am most afraid of though is censorship and propaganda. I am counting on Larry and the other contributors so much it makes my heart pound with anxiety to think about how precious freedom of speech is. How does one balance the passion enough to not hamper the speech to the point of censure? That is the challenge to all of us.

  • It’s Not Me

    BRAVO!!!! In this economy, BO should have been sworn in and had a dinner with his cabinet and closest friends and been done with it. THAT would have been the proper thing to do, but he’s too damned self absorbed and arrogant to even THINK of doing something so simple and right.

    This inauguration is OBSCENE! I’m not surprised by the over-the-top-indulgence though. After seeing his disgusting Greek columns after the primary theft, NOTHING he does surprises me.

    I’ve turned my teevee OFF. I refuse to watch the crap they’re spewing about that FRAUD. It makes me sick. HE makes me sick. Michelle makes me sick. I never thought I could detest a president as much as I detest Bush, but I DO AND he’s a DEMOCRAT (DINO, actually)! I’ve been a Democrat for the last 35 freakin’ YEARS and I should be THRILLED! I’m so pissed off that that rat b*stard is going to be inaugurated. It should be HILLARY!

  • steel magnolia

    Another thing that has me concerned – there were two articles in the LA(Obama)Times this week talking about how Obama is going to use his grassroots network, putting people on the payroll in congressional districts all over the country, so that when DEMOCRAT legislators disagree with The Messiah’s decisions or policies, they can get to work and have the Obots start calling and emailing their offices to intimidate and put pressure on them to go along with the program.

    There’s going to be no room for disagreement, even from fellow Democrats, in That One’s administration.

    To me, people, that’s scary and if you’re not concerned about that, then you’re very naive.

  • rae

    There is only one way to look at this now. Obama can’t screw up any more than GWB.As a neighbor up north I hope for the worlds sake he does well.Larry Johnson is just thinking practically.Peace to all.

  • Maria3

    Well…

    God help us!

    Hail King Obama: President for life
    Move under way to repeal Constitution’s term limits

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=86324

  • Foggynuts

    Ahhh, so we’re not allowed to call people like Larry out on their lies. We’re supposed to forget the past, like the war crimes of Bush and Cheney. Sorry, but the only way forward is for transparency and to hold people accountable for their actions. I know that’s a shock to a Republican.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    You GO msliberal! I’m with you. This is AMERICA and it’s going to end up BEING America, despite Obama’s hatred for this country and who we are. It might take years and years to undo the damage Obama does, but America has survived two world wars, depressions, etc. I am sure we can survive this arrogant punk. Obama works for US, not the other way around. Which is why I can’t take his “one world ruler” nonsense seriously. He’s a joke.

    I don’t see the rest of this country standing still for his ridiculous “policies” and destruction of the Constitution, etc. The ONLY reason more people don’t detest the Fraudulent One is that they don’t KNOW the truth. WE know who he is.

  • C.S.

    This is not a comment on how the Obamas treat their children, but I, too, have seen children abused by their parents who will do anything to win their love. And never mistake public behavior as the same as private behavior.

    And from the little interaction I’ve seen of them together, they seemed rather cold, especially when he told the press his daughters couldn’t have a “girlie dog”. It made me wonder if he resented them not being boys?

  • Foggynuts

    The media is into propaganda? Agreed; that’s what got us into the Iraq war. But I hardly see that as some ultra liberal conspiracy.

  • Jan

    Problem is, spike, we don’t know if it’s a lie.

    Right?

    So, you kinda lost credibility, there.

    You need to see things as they are, not as you wish they were.

    Obama got off to a LOUSY start, but given the campaign, it’s no wonder.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    He WON through threats and intimidation. Why would that stop now?

    PS Great news that, how much, 25 Billion of the bailout is going to ACORN? Man are Americans stupid.

  • I’m a Linda too

    Oh woah, WELL SAID!

    Holding up ideals others are continuously trampling on. Rights, fair (not changing the rules just so it suits your side), accountable and real. What used to be Democratic principles, huh?

  • PKJayne

    RIP can you link that about ACORN. I’d like to read it.

  • http://www.georgianindex.net/Napoleon/coronation/coronation.html trixta

    And BTW…my feeling isn’t even so much of a HATE as an extremely hardened stance of “if I have any say about it, I am not letting an American Hitler rise here.”

    I must agree, Larry. I feel it is my civic duty to resist elements, as I see them, that undermine our democracy–even if that element is a popular politician. But I agree with you, Larry, on one point, the spewing of sheer hatred via unwarranted personal attacks is ultimately counterproductive. And threats of violence have no place here–or anywhere else! I can see how you don’t want your site to be reduced to sheer hate. The question, however, is which criticisms will be deemed as “unwarranted,” and by whom?

    Will I ever get over my objections to Obama? I don’t know–probably not. I objected to and resisted GWB throughout his presidency with my soul intact. But Obama has managed to upstage his predecessor on many levels, especially with regard to gender and sexuality issues. Yes, there are somethings I will never get over — the corrupt primaries and the campaign of misogyny.

    On the birth certificate issue — all Obama has to do is produce it, and I will gladly STFU. But you have to admit that the idea of creating a new birth certificate category for Obama — “Born by Virgin Birth Certificate (BBVBC)”– is funny. BTW, your poll yesterday was hilarious! Humor is also a great way to let off steam.

  • Cindy

    American women have been taught all of their lives to forgive and NOT to hate…and to be peacemakers, turn the other cheek, etc….
    Well, I think we see where that’s gotten us in this society: effing nowhere.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    I cannot agree that Obama is a decent man. I cannot agree that he has the best of intentions. His very essence is one of corruption.

    I choose to wait and see who will have the more correct perspective on Mr. Obama.

    Meanwhile, I do wish the country and all of us well, despite Mr. Obama.

  • I’m a Linda too

    and to clarify the point about not willing to use his executive power for campaign promises and doing what’s right.

    That is a MAJOR character issues, isn’t it?

    The fact that it is OK for him to threaten a VETO, a direct Presidential act, if Congress didn’t give him the $350 BILLION dollar bailout funds balance to spend as he wishes, but heaven forbid he make a presidential order to keep a promise and help on a core principled issue millions were expecting him to deliver on. How many other issues will he weasel out of from making the decisions on his promises.

    Major character flaw.

  • http://cinie.wordpress.com Cinie

    So, now, being a “decent person” a criteria for being president? Nobody cares what kind of family man he is; I for one, think his marriage is a public relations sham at this point, but that’s neither here nor there. The orchestrated, theatrically produced stage craft that has been his entire career is alarming to any thinking person, as are the tactics employed to achieve his “success.” I don’t have to support him, or hang out in places where they do. I’m an American.

  • PKJayne

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-obama-army14-2009jan14,0,2211031.story

    Reporting from Washington — As Barack Obama builds his administration and prepares to take office next week, his political team is quietly planning for a nationwide hiring binge that would marshal an army of full-time organizers to press the new president’s agenda and lay the foundation for his reelection.

    Magnolia, those were good reads and anyone who missed them should read it.

  • Mandelay

    Ha! Maybe we ended up in the spam bin. I did refer to Obama as a flim-flam man….
    I tried to repost my post (how silly does that sound?) and received the “duplicate comment detected” message so maybe the original, as well as yours, will be fished out of the spam bin.

  • Likeable Enough

    Sorry Larry, I do HATE Obama, and he is NOT a decent man, but a racist, sexist, opportunistic THUG who cares about one thing: Himself.

    I am perplexed by the public’s “confidence” in him and their high expectations for his administration going forward…Do we know ANYTHING about him yet except for the fact that he pals around with domestic terrorists??

    How can Americans be confident in someone who has NO accomplishments AT ALL and not a drop of experience to help him carry the way?

  • sarahfdavis

    HAH HAH HAH!
    TRANSPARANCY!!!! BARACK’S SKIN color has you blinded.
    Most people no nothing of this fraudster. hustler. lying thug.

    Barack is the republican and you cultists will abandoned all liberal stances if he tells you to. I watch the logical pretzels you liars continually put forward and it’s exactly like the bush cultists.

    I have never voted republican. i don’t believe in most of their policies. funny, barack does.

    nobody is even paying attention to the whitey tape anymore so you’re pathetic “i’m standing up for truth and fighting lies” is an obvious and lame cover for your trite tolling.

  • Mandelay

    Good point! Made me think of Hillary’s speech in June and that line:

    “Never listen to anyone who says you can’t or shouldnt go on!”

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    Well put, Cinie.

    I hope that America is bigger and stronger than Obama and his media hyped “holiness”. It smells too much of a disaster waiting to happen.

  • msliberal

    rude and boorish
    having a bad disposition; surly; “churlish as a bear”- Shakespeare
    wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

    Whoopee for my bad disposition. I am proud to be churlish toward him. Sometimes, you just have to do what is right.

  • http://theheraclitanfire.blogspot.com/ Craig Della Penna

    Larry:

    Many of the comments made so far are spot on imho.

    First, beware of the all too human propensity to ‘forgive and forget’ – this is exactly what they are counting on. They count on our good nature to forgive the insults and outrages they heaped on us, they count on our miniscule attention spans to ensure the we forget the travesty they made of democracy.
    Forgive me for being cynical but I will not give them a ‘pass’ on this. I and many, many others will not forget, neither will we forgive. You may speak for some but not for us.

    Second, the ongoing propaganda campaign lends little credibility to the notion that, having achieved ends by whatever means, BHO will morph into the benevolent philosopher-king and rule wisely. The creation of the Obamanation ‘Jugend’, the instant attempt by sycophants to repeal the 22nd amendment all point to the everlasting campaign and a President-for-Life Obama.

    Third, even with the best will in the world, most of the important policy decisions affecting the next four years have already been set by Cheney/Bush. BHO would have to be the brilliant, divinely-inspired mythological hero he thinks he is to change anything of significance. In fact, every day he appears more and more to be Bush III, by deed and word he extends and expands Cheney/Bush policies. I don’t expect him to have a magic revelation tomorrow.

    I don’t hate Obama, I despise him for the empty power-seeking shell that he is. I hate the legions of political hacks like Axelrod (and Atwater, Ailes and Rove before him) who have used their considerable gifts to inflict a series of idiots on us and pushed our contry far, far down the road to ruin.

    Forgive and forget, not bloody likely.

  • so saddened

    cc, you have it right on the money. cold, calculating, narcissistic. wrote a bs letter to his daughters and made sure it was publicized, pretending he ran for pres for them. bull! he ran for himself, like he’s done everything else in his life.

    imho, he will be as incompetent as carter and as crooked as nixon (already is that). doubt if his media sycophants will give people that story, though. it will all be flowers and puppy dogs. it will probably take 200 years before historians finally write the truth – elected because of skin color, not qualified, no accomplishments, first class user.

    larry’s conversion is why i rarely come here and/or post any more. hoping it works out, for the sake of the country, is one thing. drinking the koolaid is quite another. and the bs about his girls loving him. ALL girls love their fathers!

  • stefystef

    I don’t hate Obama, I just don’t support him.
    He’s the pretender to the throne.

    It was Hillary who has worked hard and suffered so much to play the game by the rules, only to be ripped apart by fellow Democrats and women.

    This allowed the flavor of the month, Obama, to smooth talk his way to the Presidency. I think you, Mr. Johnson, for this post because those who “hate” Mr. Obama need to stop focusing on their anger at the farce of an election that took place, yet again. Instead, if Obama plans on a “paparazzi presidency”, well keep his feet to the fire and put the back-stabbing, Clinton-hating, misogynist media on notice.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4277442/Barack-Obama-plans-a-paparazzi-presidency-to-speak-directly-to-voters.html

  • Foxtrot

    Larry,

    If Obama was a “decent man with good intentions” he would not have perpetrated the biggest fraud in American history by stating he was “natural born”, when he wasn’t. He also would illustrate the very mantra that he espouses about “transparency’ and “truth in government” by releasing all of his college records, his long version of his birth certificate, his passport records, allow people who know or knew him to speak (and not just one or two, here or there to keep the press at bay), his answer as to why his Selective Service registration doesn’t appear to be in order or real, how he became POTUS when he was virtually a “no body” in Chicago until he met Blagojevich et al, the list goes on and on! Larry, I love this blog and have been coming here for months, but you are WAY OFF BASE on this one.

  • http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

    Sorry — I dislike him for many reasons —

    First Obama is a male chauvinist PIG. He is a sexist pig — a misogynist. There is nothing unique about him he is just another penis in a long line of penises who have occupied the white house. He’s a white guy with a mask — he’s fooled a lot of people.

    He is unfit and unqualified — he has never done the work or made the effort to qualify for this job.

    He is a user and he uses psychological abuse.

    He stole the primary — he sent his troops to threaten and harass in the caucuses — and I am one of the victims will will NEVER forget nor forgive.

    He insulted both Sen. Clinton & Sarah Palin in a deliberate misogynistic manner.

    He used psychological manipulation during his campaign — some call it hypnotism — whatever — I’ve seen these tricks used by evangelistic ministers — he is a traveling road show. He is shallow and a NARCISSIST. He is psychologically UNFIT. Eventually the death of thousands will be on his hands — just like GWB is responsible for the death of thousands.

    He is a dirty politician from Chicago — he has been personally involved in graft and corruption — his Chicago mansion is a perfect example of a pay off.

    He belongs in jail along with his good buddy Rezko.

    He lies and flip flops on everything — on every issue. He cannot be believed. His indecision and refusal to make hard decisions will cost lives at some point.

    As for his birth certificate — he is hiding something — he is spending thousands of $$$ to cover up something. And as long as he keeps his secrets and lies — we can make as many assumptions as we wish. He has lied about his real name — damn if I can list any truth he has told.

    His kids are BRATS — spoiled, selfish brats — just like their parents — the less I hear about these brats the better I like it.

    His wife is a nasty piece of work — she walks with a dark cloud over her. No matter how much plastic surgery she has she will still be ugly — because her soul is ugly. She is a racist. I read her Senior thesis from college — I’ve read and listened to her remarks. She is a racist — just like her husband.

    Hopefully, enough people will wake up and demand that he be impeached.

    He is a danger to the US — someone who belongs in jail NOT the white house.

    Everyone who enabled him should be in jail — or have their careers ruined and be sued for everything they own.

    Follow the money — he is crooked — anyone with the LACK of experience and ABILITY as Obama who is able to BUY the white house has made a lot of promises — HE SOLD THE AMERICA to ??????

    I can find absolutely nothing to like or admire about him. I just see a huge red DANGER sign flashing over him.

    HE IS A CON ARTIST.

    ————————

    However — my father was military and he served under both Democrats and Republicans — and he never said a word about his feelings or opinions of the President. So I understand where Larry is coming from.

    Thankfully I am NOT in the military — so I can continue to question Obama’s real intentions and his real motives and his actions.

  • so saddened

    ditto. would just add that i hope he goes back to chicago with gray hair, lots of belly fat, lots of wrinkles (none of which he will get by working hard), and knowing that he will forever be regarded as NOT a role model.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Friday, January 16, 2009
    ACORN To Get $$$ MONEY From Obama Stimulus Plan

    Remember ACORN? They were the group that President-elect Obama used to work with. During the presidential campaign their fraudulent voter registration drives were news almost every day. ACORN was famous for registering dead people, the same people in multiple counties, and even giving Mickey Mouse the right to vote.

    The Democrats are rewarding ACORN for their fine Illegal work by throwing some cash their way in the Obama stimulus plan:

    Looks like the infamous ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) that was caught up in voter fraud in 2008 will be in the running to get some funding (pages 72-73 of the report.) The bill provides for $10 million for the SHOP program. The funding will provide competively awarded grants to national and regional nonprofit housing organizations to develop or rehabilitate low-income housing.

    There is plenty of more funding that will no doubt find its way to ACORN coffers like the $1 billion for Community Development Block Grants or the $4.1 billion for the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. Source Swine Line

    ACORN is working hard for their money, this “non-partisan” organization is already campaigning for the stimulus:

    For three weeks now ACORN members have been aggressively pursuing a campaign to pass a bold, progressive Economic Recovery package in the new Congress. Working closely with allies like US Action, AFSCME, and the larger Americans United for Change coalition, ACORN members are taking a major role in building the coalition to pass this recovery package, and to create the context for it to be both stronger and more directly responsive to the situation facing working families across this country.

    Because of reality facing America’s low- and moderate-income communities, ACORN members and their neighborhoods function as the canaries in our nation’s economic coal mine. In many cases, our members are experiencing severe economic dislocation, but, despite their personal hardship, they are organizing for a progressive response to the worsening economic situation facing the entire United States.

    Back on December 18, ACORN offices around the country helped launch the new Campaign for Jobs and Economic Recovery Now (CJERN). These 18 late-December events were all coalition events, featuring a cross-section of speakers from the community organization, human services, environmental, labor, and elected-official sectors – we were proud, for example, to be joined by the mayors of St. Louis and Oakland on the 18th. Source: Huffington Post.

    Isn’t it great the way the Democrats works hand in hand with ACORN an organization that is doing its best to destroy the electoral process with bogus voting? WHERE IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY? Why arent they speaking out?

  • JulieD

    So what about Barack’s character? His two daughters tell an important story. They adore their father. That tells me a lot. Girls are tough to raise and easy to read. The warmth and affection they show their dad is genuine and indicates that Barack has been a loving, supportive father. Those two young ladies are not actors. At least on this count we can put a big check in the positive column noting that Barack’s character is sound.

    Seriously? Wow! Why the heck does the FBI spend so much time doing background checks?

    They could just ask their little kids if they love their parents!!

    If that’s all it takes, there are a whole lot of pedophiles, rapists, robbers, burglars, and murderers with “excellent character”.

    I get the point about “moving on”, and the rest of the post is well done, but it makes me wary when accompanied by such patently absurd statements involving 10 year olds from an Intelligence professional.

    If the little darlings become typical teenagers and hate their father, will that somehow make him a criminal?

    And what about their mother? What influence does she wield?

    One’s character is demonstrated by one’s actions. Past and present.

  • EWard

    Ms Apprehension & Steel Magnolia

    I agree with your posts. Obama is attempting to stifle free speech and dissent under the guise of his grassroots organizations and the MSM. It is also a way for him to retain power. I heard on Puma Pac that a small partion of the stimulus money might go to Acorn. Acorn’s reputation was tainted forever because of the election fraud.

    Apprehension is right, the MSM is incapable of reporting the truth. Didn’t Chris Matthews say that it was their job to make Obama look good? When you listen to CNN and others, they have crossed all ethical and professional boundaries to promote his agenda.

    If Obama is planning to place his grassroots people in Congressional offices that seems illegal. I thought that political and congressional activities have to remain separate? When I have called the offices of my Senators or Representatives, they have always referred me to their campaign offices.

    Obama’s incoming administration seems similar to a “Big Brother” government. It is very scary.

  • Idiocracy08

    I don’t want this country to fail just to prove myself right about Obama. I would love to be wrong.

    Sometimes I think he will be a do nothing president (like voting present) who will let everyone else do the work. He will take the glory for himself, or dish out the blame on others.

    Until then, I do not care what he says or how eloquently he says it. I want to see what he does. I am from Missouri. Show me.

    See, that’s the thing. He’s already shown me. You can say his children love him (most kids do love their dads), but why not ask people like Alice Palmer? I saw an awful lot of what he did to get to BE president; I shudder to think of what he’ll do AS president.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    The abused often adore their abuser. Especially young children with a limited set of learned behaviors and sophistication.

    I’m not calling Obama an abuser, just pointing out a mental health issue.

    How many candid pictures have you seen of the Obama girls genuinely smiling?

    It’s not all sweetness and light.

  • Jackie

    FOXTROT, YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE MONEY! LARRY, I AM SURPRISED AT YOU. I AM ALL FOR WANTING AMERICA TO COME OUT ON TOP AS THE WINNER, BUT IT DOESN’T MEAN I WANT TO TRAMPLE ALL OVER THE CONSTITUTION TO DO SO.

    AS FOXTROT SAID, OBAMA HAS KEPT SO MUCH HIDDEN AND YET HE WANTS EVERYONE ELSE TO REVEAL ALL! HE SCREWED HILLARY OUT OF THE NOMINATION AND HE IS TAKING OUR COUNTRY FOR A RIDE. I AM CONFIDENT HE WILL BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE WHEN PROOF COMES OUT ABOUT HIS ELIGIBILITY.

  • catherine

    But it IS his fault that he smeared the Clintons as racists. It IS his fault that he encouraged sexism and false racist smears against a worthier opponent. It IS his fault that his campaign instructed their volunteers to cheat at the caucuses.

    It IS his fault that the nomination was stolen from the RIGHTFUL winner and choice of the people Hillary Clinton (the one who received the MOST votes)!

    I don’t hate him but I will forever despise him as the corrupt Chicago thug that he is.

    What begins badly ends badly. Obama’s entire campaign and political career has been one of deceit, broken promises to his constituents and knocking opponents off the ballot by the politics of personal destruction. He will get his and many of us will not be sorry when the world sees him for the incompetent, dishonest flip flopping cheater that he is.

  • http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

    The hate is COMING from Obama.

    He is a passive aggressive Narcissist — and basically he hates America and Americans.

    But mostly he hates women.

  • Rena

    Your points ARE very well made!!

    Thank you!

  • http://firefox AnnieCollier

    Josef Goebbels’ children worshipped him. ‘Nuff said.

    The Nixon daughters also adored their father; as the Bush daughters love their father. Sorry, Larry. That’s a weak point. All daughters are Daddy’s Girls.

    I don’t actually hate Obama so much as feel major disgust about the way he was elected. I didn’t support GWB, believing he was elected fraudulently and I don’t give my support to the “New Democrats” or Obama as their leader for the same reason. If he had earned his chops in the US Senate, putting achievements and experience under his belt, I’d be fine with him. But having stood against some in my family over civil rights in the 60′s and beyond, I can’t help but compare him to MLK. I just can’t get beyond that “content of their character rather than the color of their skin” thingy.

    Will I sit back and watch to see what he actually does rather than his blather? You betcha. And, I want him held accountable by his minions. Well, that’s probably silly of me but I will be happy when he becomes a person rather than their God. They truly do look like Germans in the 30′s. The other part that scares me is that our economy is in the same shape as theirs at that time. It’s a dangerous combination.

    Had he lived, MLK would be 80 or 81. I believe he would have already run and been elected POTUS…perhaps following RFK. The times just hadn’t matured for them. It is so sad that the guy selected now, when the time is right, is so ill prepared and so much a fake. He’s merely an empty symbol.

  • PKJayne

    Thank You!

  • All kids adore their parents

    Using the kids as an example of a good person doesnt really cut it with me.
    Even abused childred adore the parents that abuse them. Its a really sad site to see watching children defend their abusers because of their love.
    Dont get me wrong,Im not saying Obama does say anything to his childre. Its just taht all children seem to adoore their parents, no matter what until a certain age.

  • susiepuma

    WOW – hope you don’t drown on the kool aid Larry – guess I’m not checking this site anymore – I absolutely loathe the fraud and everyone and everything associated with him and am HOPING like hell that a big CHANGE will happen quickly – like maybe tomorrow and the fraud will be gone …….
    Good luck with your site but no more reading, lurking or commenting here for me………….

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    It’s getting a little hard to read this stuff, I must say. He’s hasn’t even usurped the White House and all of this BS is going on. God bless America and please bring us a real President soon. This is just too much.

  • fif

    Ditto. I can’t believe we’re having a discussion about Obama’s “decent” character after the many months of evidence to the contrary posted here and commented upon with clarity and passion. He’s a chronic liar and hypocrite who used any tactic necessary–including voter suppression and manipulation, sexism, homophobia, and racism–to attain his position. It’s the same as Obama saying we don’t need to look into Bush’s violations of the Constituion because we “need to look forward.” When, exactly, is someone accountable in this government? Oh yea, Bill Clinton for having a tryst in the White House–THAT counts!?

  • basil

    Trying again to escape the spam-bin.

    Thanks so much for maintaining this site, Larry, but I disagree.

    I neither respect, trust nor admire BO.

    What he displayed during the campaign is the real deal. He is an egotistical, race-baiting, narcissistic, meglomaniacal fraud.

    He has shown his true colors and there’s nothing he can do to un-show them.

    For me to wish him well would be like the girl in the snake fable who, after being persuaded by the snake that he wouldn’t bite her is shocked when he strikes.

    When she asks why he bit her, the snake replies, “well, what did you expect? I’m a snake.”

    “Barack Obama appears to be a decent person with generally good intentions.”

    He may appear ‘decent’ when things are going his way and his ‘intentions’ may seem ‘generally good’ when people agree with him.

    Personally, I expect to see a lot of our freedoms erode during the next couple of years as anyone not enthralled by him is thrown under the bus.

    “His two daughters tell an important story. They adore their father. That tells me a lot”

    Sorry, but that doesn’t mean a thing. I worked with thousands of kids. They all love their dads when they’re young.

    “let’s analyze and comment on what he does now going forward. If he resorts to tactics or behaviors exhibited during the campaign–positive or negative–you should feel free to point it out and express your feelings and thoughts about the matter.”

    He’s already resorted to his campaign tactics. Remember the ‘Ich ein Berliner’ farce? The Obama Seal replacing the American flag on his plane? The Obama seal at the governor’s meeting where he spoke?

    The immaculation tomorrow is just more of the same. $170,000,000? Comparing himself to Lincoln, Kennedy, Truman?

    And he hasn’t even done anything yet?

    But I do have to hand him the prize for first-class gall. As PT Barnum said, ‘There’s a sucker born every minute.’

  • basil

    Thanks so much for maintaining this site, Larry, but I disagree.

    I neither respect, trust nor admire BO.

    What he displayed during the campaign is the real deal. He is an egotistical, race-baiting, narcissistic, meglomaniacal fraud.

    He has shown his true colors and there’s nothing he can do to un-show them.

    For me to wish him well would be like the girl in the snake fable who, after being persuaded by the snake that he wouldn’t bite her is shocked when he strikes.

    When she asks why he bit her, the snake replies, “well, what did you expect? I’m a snake.”

    “Barack Obama appears to be a decent person with generally good intentions.”

    He may appear ‘decent’ when things are going his way and his ‘intentions’ may seem ‘generally good’ when people agree with him.

    Personally, I expect to see a lot of our freedoms erode during the next couple of years as anyone not enthralled by him is thrown under the bus.

    “His two daughters tell an important story. They adore their father. That tells me a lot”

    Sorry, but that doesn’t mean a thing. I worked with thousands of kids. They all love their dads when they’re young.

    “let’s analyze and comment on what he does now going forward. If he resorts to tactics or behaviors exhibited during the campaign–positive or negative–you should feel free to point it out and express your feelings and thoughts about the matter.”

    He’s already resorted to his campaign tactics. Remember the ‘Ich ein Berliner’ farce? The Obama Seal replacing the American flag on his plane? The Obama seal at the governor’s meeting where he spoke?

    The immaculation tomorrow is just more of the same. $170,000,000? Comparing himself to Lincoln, Kennedy, Truman?

    And he hasn’t even done anything yet?

    But I do have to hand him the prize for first-class gall. As PT Barnum said, ‘There’s a sucker born every minute.’

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Jan,

    If I don’t continue to hate what has been done to this country, and the oily, scummy POS fraud that bullied and cheated his way into the White House…then I will be myself complicate in the fraud and destruction of America. In this case, the hate is healthy IMO. The alternative is to just sit on my ass and watch the Obama Titanic sink. Not me. I revel in my hate and disgust. It makes me work harder to rid this country of its pain and agony.

  • fif

    I posted, but it got eaten, which seems to be happening a lot here lately.

    Obama = character?

    Huh? After months of detailed evaluation of his glaring lack of character he is suddenly a “decent” guy? Decent guys do not use Chicago thug tactics to get what they want at all costs, including stealing votes, using race, sex & homophobia to win, and constant propaganda and hypocrisy. A “decent” guy?! No thank you.

  • PJ

    “A good and decent man?? We shall see. We shall see.

  • sowsear
  • Magic Puzzle Box

    While it’s good that his daughters adore him, I wouldn’t make too much of that given their age. I can tell you from experience that sometimes that comes from not really knowing a person, and children don’t really know their parents like an adult would, so sometimes when they’re grown they can be in for a shock. Besides, some families put on a good public show and are really quite different behind closed doors. It’s tempting to believe what you see is true and that the rose-colored vision of children is some kind of reflection of reality, but it is no hard and fast rule to read much into.

  • TorchWood

    Damn! Snap!! Temp just dropped 30 degrees.

    In case anyone has any doubts. I totally agree with that comment.

  • Animal Control

    Agree with you cc about his treatment of Mother and Grandmother. To think he had the audacity to even mention his mother’s problems with health insurance while at the same time he’s making hundreds of thousand is
    As Jed Clampett would say “piiiitifull”.

    A decent person would have paid for her care without her having to worry. Maye because I’m from the old world but first they take care of us then we take care of them.

    I like Larry’s point but Obama is a slime *scratching my nose with my middle finger*

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    The worst part of it is that apparently they dug up Grandma’s death certificate and she actually died October 22nd. Not November 3. He waited to talk about it until the 3rd so people going to vote the next day would stop thinking about his claim that he would “bankrupt the coal industry” and give him a sympathy vote. Can you imagine? This is all so freaky and weird. He’s a mess.

  • basil

    Can someone please explain to me why some posts don’t show up?

    Is it length?

    Are there certain words that trigger the filter?

    Thanks.

  • Ima Blue Dot in Texas

    I can’t help but believe that Dr. King would be shaking his head in disbelief at all of the Obama Drama and wondering how so many could have misunderstood his “I have a dream” message.

    I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

    “NOT be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character” was his dream. I think the democrats are high-fiving and busy patting themselves on the back because they truly believe they’ve made Dr. King’s dream come true.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Oh yeah, Animal Control, thanks for the reminder. Obama’s a really great guy. Sure. The same guy who brushed Hillary off his shoulders, and flipped Hillary and McCain the FINGER. ROFLMAO. And people are calling this immature, arrogant little frat boy “President?” Give me a BREAK. Can you honestly see ANY past Presidents pulling such immature stunts and thinking it was funny. He’s vile. Period. VILE.

  • Magic Puzzle Box

    I think you’re right to some degree, but maybe Larry really meant we don’t want to start planning to name the local sewer after Obama or getting too obssessed with our distrust and dislike like the anti-Bush people did. It’s actually healthier for Obama himself to have some strong negative voices. Then he won’t delude himself into believing his own press that he is the one we’ve been waiting for.

  • Sometime-CIA-Defender

    Great post, Lar. Right on the head, his kids can’t be actors, but we must hold him to account.

    And this is one of my favorite lines of all time:

    I am from Missouri. Show me.

    Awesome!

  • basil

    Thanks so much for maintaining this site, Larry, but I disagree.

    I neither respect, trust nor admire BO.

    What he displayed during the campaign is the real deal. He is an egotistical, race-baiting, narcissistic, meglomaniacal fraud.

    He has shown his true colors and there’s nothing he can do to un-show them.

    “Barack Obama appears to be a decent person with generally good intentions.”

    He may appear ‘decent’ when things are going his way and his ‘intentions’ may seem ‘generally good’ when people agree with him.

    Personally, I expect to see a lot of our freedoms erode during the next couple of years as anyone not enthralled by him is thrown under the bus.

    “His two daughters tell an important story. They adore their father. That tells me a lot”

    Sorry, but that doesn’t mean a thing. I worked with thousands of kids. They all love their dads when they’re young.

    “let’s analyze and comment on what he does now going forward. If he resorts to tactics or behaviors exhibited during the campaign–positive or negative–you should feel free to point it out and express your feelings and thoughts about the matter.”

    He’s already resorted to his campaign tactics. Remember the “I’m a citizen of the world’ Berlin spectascle? The Obama Seal replacing the American flag on his plane? The Obama seal at the governor’s meeting where he spoke?

    The immaculation tomorrow is just more of the same. $170,000,000? Comparing himself to Lincoln, Kennedy, Truman?

    And he hasn’t even done anything yet?

    But I do have to hand him the prize for first-class gall. As PT Barnum said, ‘There’s a sucker born every minute.’

  • basil

    Why are longer posts banned?

  • KintheNorthwest

    I am awaiting something positive to come from Obama that doesnt end up costing the taxpayers more money and heart break.
    Looks like Michelle is already looking spending WH money with new dishes, even though Laura Bush just had a set done for the WH.
    http://www.kansascity.com/living/home/story/979209.html

  • wodiej

    no,that is the real LJ, I have read many comments from him calling people nasty names and yelling at them. He doesn’t like criticism.

  • Wisewoman

    annie. Thank you so much for expressing my sentiments. As an AA female who marched with Dr. King during my college days, I know you truly hit the nail on the head with your statements.

  • Peggy Sue

    The only thing that gives me a measure of hope for this administration is the people Obama has wisely chosen to various offices. It’s certainly not a guarantee of anything. And if he starts to throw his Cabinet members under the bus, we’ll have real reason to worry.

    But Larry has a point, as chilling as it may be to many of us–Barack Obama will be inauguarated tomorrow. He will become President of the United States. That’s the reality. For all our sake’s, I hope he’s better than I expect because the country and the world is in a whole slew of trouble.

    So, as PJ said: We shall see.

  • JozefAL

    Hillary or Bust, you mention the woman who discovers her husband is a pedophile, but there’s a far more common instance: How many women have been physically abused (or even killed) by husbands (or boyfriends) who were deemed “pillars of the community”?
    How often have serial killers been described by their neighbors as “decent men” or “so friendly”?
    Hell, when Larry Craig was busted for his “wide stance”, his entire family assured everyone that Craig was a “good and decent family man”.
    Joan Crawford was, to the public, a loving mother. Then, one of her adopted children pens a best-selling tale (adapted into a major motion picture starring Faye Dunaway) which told us of a completely different scene, one which shocked and stunned Crawford’s legions of fans.
    Bing Crosby, for decades, was the “model” of the good family man, but a couple of his children would, years later, tell us of a darker Bing.
    Children DO lie and they DO cover up (there are children who are sexually and physically abused but many DO manage to cover up the abuse; at the same time, there have been several instances where children have made up stories of abuse which have led to lives and reputations being ruined, as in a number of cases in Kern County, California, and the McMartin Preschool case). For all we know, both Bush daughters love and adore THEIR dad, but that doesn’t make him a better person just because of that. We know that Chelsea Clinton apparently loves her father, but that didn’t apparently keep Bill from inviting Monica into the Oval Office for a little “grown-up fun”. So, why should we accept that Obama’s a good man JUST because his daughters APPEAR to love him?
    Larry tried to make a case that BECAUSE “girls are tough to raise and easy to read” we should ease off on Obama as a person. I’m sorry, but that just doesn’t cut it with me. The last TWO Presidents raised “girls” (who presumably were also “tough to raise and easy to read”) but that didn’t stop people from criticizing BOTH MEN on a PERSONAL level. Hell, how many on this board have been quick to denounce Jimmy Carter as a bad President (and offer up Obama as the “second coming of Jimmy Carter” as well)? Well, just to remind you, Jimmy Carter ALSO raised a “girl” who was presumably as “tough to raise and easy to read”. And everyone who remembers the Carter Presidency will also recall Amy’s open affection towards her father, something which did very little to appease Carter’s critics, then OR now.
    Family is the WORST possible way to show one’s character. Throughout history, thousands–if not millions–of gay men have married AND had children while sneaking around and cheating with other men (the number of their straight counterparts who’ve cheated with other women is likely to be far higher). We’ve seen how many (presumably) “happily-married” Congressmen over the years becoming involved in sex-related scandals with the wives and children all keeping smiles plastered on their faces for the cameras? Nope. I’m not buying Larry’s reasoning on this one. He’s free, of course, to explain how/why he thinks Obama is a “good man”, but using Obama’s daughters as a case-in-point for that explanation is just beyond the bounds of rational belief. Many children absolutely love and adore (even worship) their parents (especially, their opposite-sex parent) as long as the parents dote on them, but when the kids don’t get their way, THAT is another story entirely. If you haven’t heard your child say one of the following lines at one time, you’ve probably not done your job right (or the child is simply too terrified to say it aloud): “I hate you”; “I wish you were dead”; “I wish _______ were my dad/mom”; “If you don’t get me _______, you don’t really love me”. The Obama girls are still pre-teens and the older one will, no doubt, be given detailed instructions on how she’s to behave by Mama Michelle so that she doesn’t embarrass her father, even accidentally, as she enters the wonderful teen years.

  • athena

    Boy – you hit it on the head for me. I want our COUNTRY to succeed. When I watch this coverage this week I start to float out into the mainstream of “this guy is so wonderful/historical this and so wonderful/historical that” What about all that he did and said and who he associated with to get to be the “president-elect”. There is something just not right about this guy. Intuitively, from the gut my conscience tells me to be ever watchful…

  • KintheNorthwest

    I will make a bet that Blagojevich’s children adore him. Hmmmmm — Isnt he the one being impeached…

  • http://Godhelpusall lee M

    This is not the Larry Johnson I knew.

  • imustprotest

    yep, rather ironic isn’t it? Sad actually.

  • C.S.

    Obama is not the government, he is going to be a representative of the government and as such should have obtained the presidency by honest election. Being selected by the Democratic party and accepting votes of other candidates to put him “over the top” betrays our country’s democracy.

    The only way to protect our government is for Soertoro/Obama to put aside his ego and return the votes stolen for him to their rightful recipients and call for an election do over. Then could make him an honorable man. The Constitutional crisis he instigated is here, right now and will remain until we either give up the idea that we’re a democracy or we bring democracy back.

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    a lot of us will be doing that..a lot of tears will fall.a lot of prayers will be said.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA.land that we love..

  • wodiej

    I was wondering when I would see a Kool Aid thread here and today is the day.

    To each his own but it looks like most of the posters are in agreement that Obama does not have character or integrity. If you do, you don’t associate w people like Rezko, Wright and Ayers. If Obama doesn’t share those beliefs and actions, then at the very least he has piss poor judgement and that is not President material.

    Anyone who won’t show their medical or school records and spend a half million dollars on lawyers to keep a $10 birth certificate from being publicized, is hiding more than a few unsavory pieces of their life.

    And little 8 yr old girls certainly are not a good judge of character, most kids love their parents…even when they’re assholes. He may be a good father but that doesn’t mean he can do no wrong.

  • Mort

    This site pushed the “Obama isn’t a citizen” meme all summer! Now you don’t like that your site is just a cesspool of hatred? What did you expect?

    When you spend the summer barking about the “Whitey Tape” and his birth certificate, don’t act surprised when all that remains here are the loons and racists.

  • barry bums a ciggie

    I disagree with you Larry on the “reading” of his daughters. My parents were egocentric and did things that as an adult, I will never understand. But as a child, even though I saw their flaws, I still adored them. How could I not, they were my parents. For every two wrongs they did as my parents, they corrected it with a big right. Barry might be a good father to his girls, but that does not make him an outstanding person in my eyes. I hear parents everyday tell their kids not to lie and be disrespectful, but they don’t lead by example AT ALL. The day Obama played the race card, was the day I lost all respect for the guy. I am a minority and I know how easy it is to play that card anytime anywhere and how uncomfortable it makes others feel. I work on my own merit and don’t believe in ANYONE ever needing to pull that race crap, especially not for the highest job in the land.

  • barry bums a ciggie

    there you go again with the racist thing…give it a rest already. Just because we don’t like BO doesn’t mean we are the KKK, got that?

  • http://NoQuarterUSA.net Larry Johnson

    Nobody is drinking kool aid but I am glad you are leaving. Your inability to listen to reason or accept other point of views is dangerous.

    Nobody here demands you accept Obama. But let me ask you a very simple question–if he is such a bad guy why do his daughters think he’s so great? I know that Don Rumsfeld’s daughter thinks her old man is a nightmare.

  • Rob G in Chicago

    How is this new Bush outrage characterized as welcome news? How does this action by Bush foster any respect for the rule of law over moral relativism ? The Justice Department says that there was no evidence connecting the previously convicted drug dealer shooting victim to the abandoned van carrying the marijuana, and the unarmed man was shot in the back (well, actually the backside)while fleeing the U.S. and trying to get back to Mexico by armed law enforcement officers. Yes, they were law enforcement officers with the power to arrest. They were not the judge and jury and executioner, and they had no right to act as East German border guards. Ramos and Compean have served two years of a ten year sentence for shooting someone who was unarmed and fleeing in the back and then trying to cover-up the shooting, obstruct justice by destroying/hiding evidence, and lying about the underlying facts; and they are your heros, and deserving of a break? Bush agreed that Ramos and Compean had received a fair trial and were guilty as charged. He also believed that a ten year sentence was too harsh because they had just wounded the victim, not killed him. I’m sure that other law enforcement officers received a clear message from this. Shoot an unarmed person in the back, and loss of your job will be the only consequence.

  • Wow

    Ayers was denied entry into Canada. Wow!!

  • http://firefox AnnieCollier

    I have seen many documentaries on the Nazis. One, the other night, was about the conspirators in the military who wanted to kill Hitler during the last stages of the war. Long before Hitler began to fail, citizens risked arrest if they failed to use the Nazi salute. Many were opposed to him but by the time he was actually in power they had no way to survive protest.

    My hair stands on end when I see how these “community organizers” are being put in place with government money for his reelection.

  • http://www.anvp.wordpress.com soldier4hillary

    Look, people need to realize something and on this I believe alot of individuals are falling for the hype. Barack Obama is a man. A man who is about to take office to a position that will be here when he leaves office. Barack Obama=United States of America is BULL.

    THAT is the problem. I wish Barack Obama well in his new job. But no matter how badly he does, WE as well as this COUNTRY will STILL BE HERE. We survived Bush, we will survive Obama. So many people have this belief that he is the U.S. No, he is a man, that has a job to help govern this nation. But the thing is, it takes more than just the president to get the job done. It requires those individuals WE elected to office to do there job as well.

    Look to the words of his most ardent supporters. They believe questioning him and bringing attention to his mishaps mean you dont love this country. That you want the country to fail. Barack Obama’s face is not on the patch of the uniform I wear. It’s OUR, meaning ALL OF US, flag. No matter who takes office today, tomorrow, or any day, there are some things that are guaranteed to still be here. Obama is not what holds this country together. We are.

    So if we begin to just stop questioning and pointing things out that is wrong or even emphasizing the things we see right. We are no better than those who believe that come tomorrow, he will begin to turn water into wine. You all have your work cut out for you after tomorrow. You know good and damn well that the sky’s will not be opening up with angels singing and prancing unicorns running about won’t happen.

    So why stress yourselves about all of the media hype? These people, these businesses got to keep the lights on just like me and you. And right now, Obama sells. He is making money for individuals right now because he is telling them what they want to hear. They don’t want to think about the fact that they are living from hand to mouth. Or that they are two seconds away from losing there jobs or there homes. And some, there jobs and there home.

    He is a product that is bringing in money. A blank slate for people to project there hopes and dreams on despite the fact he has done absolutely nothing. You can count on one hand the amount of blogs or even those in the MSM that have bought the important things forward to grab the attention of the masses. Do you have any idea how hard it is to point the truth out when no one wants to see it? What people experience and go through?

    I am so disappointed in some of you. You like the safe haven of NQR but you have no idea what people actually have to go through just to speak truth to power when everyone else wants you to fail because it is ruining the hopey changey party. I am not trying to lecture anyone but reading some of the comments about what Larry posted has me amazed.

    Believe me, the price of freedom or freedom of speech when it comes to *that one* was and is tough. I don’t even want to think about the type of emails they get. I am just one person and I used to get during the primaries all types of hate mail because I was black, military, female and supported Clinton. From death threats to threats made against those close to me, to threats of putting my personal info online. They came after me like I was the leader of al Qaeda and the only thing standing between Obama and the presidency. Because they couldnt understand why the hell I just didnt *fall in* with the masses so I must of been getting paid or a *gasp* secret Republican because you know, you cant have Democrats in the military who dont support the *the one*.

    I have been priviledged that NQR allowed me to post articles and do Our View. The shit I get from individuals from doing the show is beyond believable. But you know what? I dont care. You think we get paid for this shit? No. We do it because we know there are those out there who may not post or join the chat groups. Who just want to listen in or read a article, to feel that they are not alone in a world gone crazy with back to back Obamagasms 24/7.

    But when everyone starts to become critical because you read something you may not like or want to hear, you should just stop and think about the truth and what is before you. It’s not easy.

    Hell, you can go to NQR’s front page and see it for yourself. The difference between this blog and everyone elses. Look at the amount of Obama’ ads you see on blogs. You cant go anywhere online withou seeing his damn face. Obama this, Obama that, a fake gold plate here, a fake goldplated coin there. And what do you see when you hit NQRs front page?

    A whole goddamn slew of Amazon products that have you thinking maybe you typed in the wrong url. The one thing they never want you to do, is to become organized and focused. They want you to believe that everyone else has just accepted things as is so you will to. The ball is in your court on how you want things to change. Our history is ripe with individuals who made shit happen without the majority on there side but refused to give in or give up. Despite the fact that everyone else believed it to be true. That some of us don’t deserve rights or fair representation or a voice.

    But they believed in it enough to fight for it. There is no group think here, you get the info as is to do with what you will. Rarely will you find two writers who think alike or view various policies and issues the same. But wouldnt you rather have the truth as it is and not how they want you to see it?

  • wodiej

    because they have been led to believe Bush is Satan incarnate, the Democrats tanked the economy by not allowing regulations on the mortgage market years ago but blame it on Republicans, they’re desperate and frankly JUST PLAIN STUPID.

  • Jan

    How’d you get kumbya from my post?

    That isn’t what I said.

  • http://firefox AnnieCollier

    Then he won’t delude himself into believing his own press that he is the one we’ve been waiting for.

    Too late for that one! Hahahaha.

  • basil

    On another note….
    I am LMFAO!

    Ayers denied admittance to Canada! boo-hoo-hoo-hoo.

    ‘An American education professor, one of the founders of a radical 1960s group known as the Weather Underground, which was responsible for a number of bombings in the United States in the early 1970s, was turned back at the Canadian border last night.
    Dr. William Ayers, a professor of education at the University of Illinois-Chicago and a leader in educational reform, was scheduled to speak at the Centre for Urban Schooling at University of Toronto’s Ontario Institute for Studies in Education. But that appearance has now been temporarily cancelled.’

  • wodiej

    well what else do those cheeto eaters have to do??

  • catherine

    Larry, with all due respect, Nixon’s daughters adored Tricky Dickey, Cheney’s girls seem very fond of their dad. Even Stalin’s daughter loved her father. Hugo Chavez dotes on his youngest, but are/were these men good to/for the citizens of their country?

    I mean of course a 7 and 11 year old are going to love their daddy. He seems to be a very loving father, but that hardly qualifies someone to be a good POTUS or even a “decent” human being.

    The fact is most kids do love their parents regardless of whether or not the parent is a hero or a villain. And it’s only natural for most parents to dote on their children.

  • Donna Brazile

    Amen Annie:

    Yes the Nixon daughters adored their father.

    My problem is That One in his book wrote about not wanting to be an absentee father like his father. Yet, he takes a job in the Senate and lives in Washington while his family lives in Chicago. And then, you run for President where you’re gone for almost two years. This of course during their girls formative years. This suggests to me, his ambition drives him more than his heart.

    Whatever about his parenting. Really how do we know he is a good father or a poor one. We don’t live in that house.

    Stop the lovefest.

  • Mort

    Not all of you are, but you’d be lying if you claimed there aren’t racists that post here. The Whitey Tape nonsense and the “not a citizen” BS just stoked the racists and the xenophobes.

  • Katmoon

    I know what Obama did to get where he is, and I know he got away with it. I also think his daughters love their Dad,( and without any conscious knowledge of it) enjoy some of the benefits the campaign, media and the public have provided them. Having said that I am insulted at the cost of the inauguration, having expressed same. I respect the office of the President, but whatever person holds that mantle must earn respect by their actions, and President Obama will have a long road to hoe to get there with me. I am admittedly feeling left out, as I would love to celebrate a new president, but cannot, and cannot celebrate my previous party of Democrats for winning the election. I am also from the show me mentality, and am mindful with what has been done, watching what is going to be done. There is no excuse for any political lie or baiting of the voter by any politician and none of them are clean, just some cleaner than others and more tolerable, and one very admirable, SS Clinton. I can become hyper vigilant in a heartbeat should I need to. All of ourmpolitical “priorities” may be different, but we must come to some self

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Craig, did you look at the end of Larry’s piece?

    I want to see what he does. I am from Missouri. Show me.

    God, Larry practically led the fight to expose the “real Obama” to the American people, and so did every one of us writers. We still will!

    Craig, why don’t you look at my article from last night on what Obama’s pulling on stem cell research — to the people he PROMISED during his campaign?

    Is Obama about to crush the hopes of the desperately ill and economic needs of states counting on stem cell research?

    There are over three times as many comments here as there, where I’m holding his feet to the fire, just as we will throughout his presidency.

    But people, I guess, would rather put words in Larry’s mouth than discuss where Obama is actually failing to keep his word on a vital medical issue.

    We need to contact the White House the minute he takes over and call to get him to rescind Bush’s order on stem cell research. State economies are counting on it. People in desperate medical need are counting on it.

    Let’s act, not parse words.
    And so will Larry.

  • catherine

    HAHAHAHAHAHA! Love it!

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    so true saw her over at walmart looking at the latest chinet patterns,,

  • Jan

    I have to disagree, hate eats like a cancer.

    I see Rezko, and I see the deliberate divide and conquer, and I see how Obama, like Bush, stole an election, really, stole money from the people of IL.

    But I’m indifferent to him, other than working to expose him. IMO, he broke the law, so it’s a matter for law enforcement. Certainly, though, his actions should be discussed rationally, no one is advocating for him here, selling him.

    He’s still a slug.

    Maybe it’s anger?

    And that I understand.

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    the spam that goes into the filter is usually super super long, or very short. it self selects those, I think…. also ones with offensive words tend to go there.

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    a lot of us is from missouri.we will be WATCHING………

  • wodiej

    Amen…

    “evil prevails when good men do nothing”

    Edmund Burke

    Obama took advantage of a shitty economy and people upset w Bush. People panicked and he played on that.
    The media is trying to say that 80% of Americans are behind Obama…I say BULLSHIT.

  • http://firefox AnnieCollier

    Thanks, Soldier. People such as yourself and Tavis Smiley really caught hell for speaking out against group think.

    I will indulge myself today though in “what if”. I know, we have to go forward and I certainly will. As much as celebrating the great Dr. King, his contributions and accomplishments, I mourn what was lost and how different the past 40 years would have been had he been among us.

  • Jan

    Well, that’s probably silly of me but I will be happy when he becomes a person rather than their God. They truly do look like Germans in the 30’s.

    I remember eight years ago saying the same thing about the bushbots.

    We survived that, we will survive this, too.

    And this group doesn’t even have a Cheney.

    Yet, anyway.

  • Katmoon

    I know what Obama did to get where he is, and I know what he got away with. I also think his daughters love their Dad,( and without any conscious knowledge of it) enjoy some of the benefits the campaign, media and the public have provided them. Having said that I am insulted at the cost of the inauguration, having expressed same. I respect the office of the President, but whatever person holds that mantle must earn respect by their actions, and President Obama will have a long road to hoe to get there with me. I am admittedly feeling left out, as I would love to celebrate a new president, but cannot, and cannot celebrate my previous party of Democrats for winning the election. I am also from the show me mentality, and am mindful with what has been done, watching what is going to be done. There is no excuse for any political lie or baiting of the voter by any politician and none of them are clean, just some cleaner than others and more tolerable, and one very admirable, SS Clinton. I can become hyper vigilant in a heartbeat should I need to. All of our political “priorities” may be different, but we must come to some self understanding again of country first, because we are in the shitter as a country and must pull together. We must never forget and be active to not allow either party to get away with acts against the citizens of this country such as the democrats did. However, it is our country, and for the best or worse this administration has to offer they are, our new officials. I can move forward supportive of my country, with a wary eagle eye on what this administration does.

  • Jan

    It’s a reaction to truth, the two are different.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Frankly, a NORMAL person would be embarrassed about this Messiah crap and The One nonsense. Can you imagine McCain taking that seriously or welcoming it? We have a buffoon, cartoon character for a “President.” It’s laughable. Guess what? The rest of the world thinks so too. Anyone been reading what the Brits really think? They are laughing their asses off, as would anyone with a brain.

  • Jackarooty

    Thank you Larry. I haven’t agreed with everything that you have written but I agree heartily with everything you wrote in this post.. I have been contemplating posting a comment for the past several days about this same subject matter.
    I have grown very weary of this ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) to the point where I considered deleting NQ from my bookmark list.
    I don’t like what happened during the primaries to Hillary. I don’t like Barry. I don’t trust him. I had Oprah on today and lasted exactly 13 minutes until palpable nausea made me change the channel. The Obama messianic worship was so overbearing.
    That being said I will watch the inauguration and all of the hoopla leading up to it as well as the hoopla following it.
    There are so may real and important issues that face Barry. There will be plenty of opportunity to criticize him.
    I have had enough of the name calling.
    Btw, the media have picked up the Jill Biden gaffe (I guess like husband, like wife) that she made on Oprah today about Joe being offered SoS as well as VP. This is old news. I repeat this is old news. I read about this right after HRC was nominated. The media are trying to marginalize HRC as they have always done. After Joe decided on VP he was largely responsible for pushing Hillary’s name.
    Also there is a very interesting article linked through Drudge about Barry consulting McCain about various military issues as well as his appointments. McCain approved of HRC’s nomination. You heard it here first but I wouldn’t be surprised if Barry nominates McCain for SoD when Gates steps down. McCain is running for re-election in 2010 but a Cabinet post of SoD would be a wonderful way to wind down his career. Why would any Senator want to become Strom Thurmond or Robert Byrd? I don’t see McCain dying in his Senate chair. He has a full life outside of the Senate.

  • Oisafraud

    What makes Obama black? The fact his factor was Muslim from Kanya? Or because he’s married to MicHELLe?

  • MOmule

    Sorry, Larry – I just can’t buy that. Especially this afternoon after I just read that Biden’s wife let slip (on Oprah I think) that her darling husband was offered two jobs by BO. Vice President or Secretary of State! I always thought she should stay away from this bunch.

  • wodiej

    well said…

  • stodgie

    put a sock in it rob!

  • KintheNorthwest

    Correct me if Im wrong but this has got to be the hottest topic on NoQuarter in Ages.

  • Jackarooty

    It’s not new news. The media are trying to make something out of nothing. They are trying to marginalize Hillary as usual. Why go against the grain now? After Joe made his choice he pushed hard for Hillary.

  • Jan

    Agreed, I think he’s smarter than Bush (maybe), though less paranoid than Cheney.

    He’s not as practiced as the other Presidents, his Axelrod PR staff, truly laughable, pathetic. It will be the Clinton people who carry him, determine his success, like or not.

    And if he blows that, alienating the wrong people, he’s toast.

  • wodiej

    oh please….you believe the Justice department and illegal alien drug dealer? Please, step back from the kool aid. The border patrol agents are the good guys…the drug dealers are the bad guys…get it?

  • Karen

    My feelings about Obama began the evening of the NH Primary, when Obama minions started blaming his defeat on the Bradley Effect, in essence calling Hillary supporters racist. I remember talking back to the tv that night in disbelief.

    In the days before SC, everything Hillary or Bill Clinton said suddenly became racist and Obama said and did nothing. No one associated with his campaign would have said these things without Obama’s consent and approval. It was his use of race-baiting which created the most divisive campaign in recent memory. I know that I will never forget his willingness to lie and destroy others to promote himself. He totally lacks any sort of ethics or character and starting tomorrow he will be the President of the United States and leader of the free world. Terrifying thought.

  • Cindy

    Obamastolemyboyfriend—
    I for one am glad you’re back.

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Excellent point Susan. That is what I took away from Larry’s post. Let’s see what he does. If he *messes up* we will call him on it. But, it doesn’t hurt to at least see how he tries to fix the mess we are in.

    and as for the issues like campaign finance, etc. we can still take action and try to fix the things we saw that were broke during the primary.

    Action over just bitching and hating. Like with stem cell research, we need to make sure he follows through as promised, not just bitch about what a liar he is. But if he doens’t over turn it, you bet we will bitch about it! :O)

    Also, I think Larry is taking heat for ALL the posts that people submit here. He allows the writers to write about what they want, but that doesn’t mean that every single writer here, or you or Larry ALL agree on everything.

    And I don’t think it is fair to accuse Larry of drinking the koolaid. The title of the post is *get a handle on the hate* not *bow down and worship the one*.

    Larry wants to move forward. So do I and some others. Many writers and visitors don’t. And I think you will see a variety of different posts and comments going forward.

    But to attack Larry for asking that we don’t wallow in hate, but move forward, and for pointing out some facts, and for believing that Obama is a good father seems rather lame.

  • Cindy

    glad you’re back.

  • JulieD

    KintheNorthwest –

    Maybe the “character test” is only whether BO’s kids like someone or not?

    If BO is THE ONE – then they are ORACLE CHILDREN…?

  • http://www.anvp.wordpress.com soldier4hillary

    Comment by Jan | 2009-01-19 15:17:20

    To deliberately sabotage Obama is to sabotage America.

    Why would anyone wish to harm their country – it’s our house.

    It isn’t about EGO, (or personality disorders), it is about the welfare of the United States.

    Understood in that context, it makes sense.

    WTF? Is this a serious statement? Obama is NOT AMERICA! Come on, people we have to get real on this one. Our presidents ARE NOT the foundation of this country. To deliberately sabotage? Is that like asking questions? Holding him accountable on the issues? I am going to give a word of advice. If you send the message our country hinges on one man as if it is a monarchy, what do you think the focus will become from those who seek to do harm to the U.S?

    This is a horrible message to broadcast that our success or failure revolves around one many. If everyone constantly stated things he wants to hear, how will this administration no when they are doing something that is not right? The reason some have issues with Obama supporters early on, is this type of group think. This is not a monarchy. Our legislative body does not consist of one person.

    In my opinion, remarks like that are the reason some do not feel comfortable even discussing this upcoming administration come tomorrow. Believe me. America survived Bush, it will survive Obama. But you know what? America will still be here once both have gone.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Yeah, and there’s the problem. Canada doesn’t want any of Obama’s nasty, filthy friends. But we AMERICANS have to pay for them to dine at the White House. The rest of the world wouldn’t put Reverend Wright’s disciples and worshipers in their government’s highest office. But the losers of America did.

  • basil

    :oops:

    So sorry for the duplicate posts.

  • maddie

    Here Here!

    My sentiments exactly!

    Not getting over it–A cause for “change”!

  • KintheNorthwest

    Thats ok Basil–I posted it earlier and it looks like it took a while for someone to take notice.

  • Katmoon

    I think the racist label caused a great deal of anger as well. Particularly when racism and sexism was blatant. We know not to allow such actions to repeat, but were also unable to have a voice, this breeds contempt. I also think there are worries over further problems with being treated to racist, sexist and homophobic behavior from people in this administration, or that there will be a tolerance for it as there was during the campaign. I believe many people feel cornered and stuck with a selection, instead of part of the results of an election. We can’t live in anger. None of this happened overnight nor did it start out on a national level. There has been a complacency we are responsible for as a nation, and now we must not be complacent, rather we must become aware of facts, educate ourselves about our system and representatives, and work toward what we need collectively, for the good of all. We must be Americans first, expecting to be treated as Americans first, not a race a sex or sexual orientation. This must become public policy.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    If anything, let’s hope or work towards making America strong despite Obama,

    There’s nothing but hype that points to Obama’s skills as a world leader. “Feckless” is the word that comes to mind when it comes to Obama.

    The inaugural machine keeps chugging along, but is it really working? Is America really going to just shut their eyes and be dazzled by the machine?

  • Katmoon

    I had duplication as well, sorry.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    It’s a ridiculous analogy. Many abused children love their parents because they don’t KNOW anything else. The love between a parent and a child is a very difficult one to break. That’s irrelevant to who Obama is. His DAUGHTERS have NO WAY of knowing what he did to this country. How would they? But, they WILL know. And that’s the sad thing. When the history books and documentaries all speak the truth about what a total jerk, creep and con man he is, his daughters will be old enough to understand what a horrible person their father is. They will still love and defend him. That’s what children do.

  • Judy L. NC

    Who are you and what have you done with Larry? I don’t hate Barry and I don’t want him to fail because I don’t want our country to fail. However, I fear that he will let us down worse than Bush. We need a strong “loyal opposition”. That’s what I thought NQ was. WTF?

    I was hoping to sing first alto in the NQ I-Told-You-So Choir for the next four years.

  • truthorconsequences

    talking head

  • UKforDems

    Where is the link? You just made that up out of your losing Rethug mind.

  • Jan

    How do you undermine him without undermining the US?

    (I’m thinking of attacks similar to Rush’s “Obama, the Magic Negro.” Even my FOXNEWS viewer was appalled by that one — the Obama left wing simply adpoted those methods.)

    If his administration has a good idea, though, one that benefits the country, will you still take against him?

    Does this extend to Clinton, too?

    You know, I’d just rather tell the truth to the best of my abilty, knowing Obama’s presidency was bought, letting him sink or swim on the basis of the talent he hired.

    And the truth includes Fitzgerald’s investigations.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    I’ve often wondered what Linda Byrd and Lucy Baines Johnson would say about their father, if the truth were known.

    Or the Nixon children or the Bush twins.

    Eventually, the Obama girls will know what their father did to the country and democracy, but will they be deeply proud?

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Jeez give the racist stuff a rest. I’ve read every single post here and there’s nothing “racist” about any of it. By the way, it’s a fact that Obama refuses to show a real birth certificate. Therefore, the “citizen” issue is something that we patriots will pursue until he DOES show a real document. Period. That’s not “racism” or “xenophobia.” That’s the Constitution of the United States of America. You don’t have to live here. But, if you do, then you get to live under the laws of this country. And Obama doesn’t get to piss on the Constitution he is swearing to “uphold.” You can play victim and call that racism. That’s on YOU. It’s nothing more than patriotism.

  • Baba Rum Raisin

    The One hasn’t done anything to me yet, so I’ll peg my Discomfort with him and the methodology of the present leadership of the Democtaric party as Disgust, with a strong undertaste of Revulsion.

    ‘T’aint about Color, sir, but Leadership.

    (For the Record, my daughter thinks I’m just the shits as well, but she WILL tell you that I can be the, “Prince of F***ing Darkness” upon occasion, when riled or presented with Blatant Stupidity…)

    In the meantime, I hope that my visceral hatred of Nixon, who DID do several things to me besides sending me to a Place of Poor Quality, is allowed to continue unabated.

    Loathing Reagan would be easy, but that addled fool was too dense to appreciate it.

  • Jan

    Cheney did the same thing, with David Addington.

    How is it different?

    This is just the left wing version of Cheney’s crew, then, is what you’re saying.

    If we got through it once, why panic, now?

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Susan posted a post a week or so ago that asked, if your post doesn’t show up, to email her – NOT repost it. Reposting doesn’t solve the problem, because if we retrieve ONE of the spammed posts, it still recognizes your name as SPAM. we would have to pull ALL of the repeated posts to get you out of there for the other posts. Does that make sense??

    So the best thing to do is email her right away, or post a comment here that says you were filtered. But DO NOT post multiple posts – it will still treat you like a spammer. (I go in when I see comments that someone was filtered)

    I try to go in as often as I can, as do others, and pull out comments. Hope that helps!

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    UKforDems-the-Troll,

    You Obots kill me. It’s posted on two sites – Yidwithalid and Atlas Shrugs. But, if you weren’t brain dead, it specifies exactly where the ACORN bailout funds are in the report. Duh. I am kind of new to this site and don’t know how to link. Grow up Bot. Obama is a joke.

  • wodiej

    well Canada has sense. We might need to move there.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Foggynuts…Why aren’t you Obots out burning the Flag, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence? I thought that was how you freaks would celebrate your big victory. Do it. Obama wants you to!

  • Cobrito

    Your site’s been an oasis, but this did not sit right with me.

    Warnings against hate, threats, and ODS are fine and necessary, but to reduce people’s very deep and complex reactions to the man and the election year to “churlishness” sounds patronizing and Democratic-Party-insider-like.

    And why the need to make pronouncements about his decency and about things we don’t really know yet?

    He may be a decent human being, but as a politician I am 1000% against him, and I think his personal limitations will bring about a downfall Nixon-like in its magnitude.

    Like many, I’m in an irreconcilable emotional position of wishing our country well while eagerly awaiting the fall of a person I see totally opposed to what I want to see in American democracy.

    We don’t know yet the extent of his Chicago corruption, so why let him off the hook?

    Even the citizenship issue is not fully settled.

    I understand your post, but I think you overshot.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Wow…I haven’t really ever seen that kind of stuff on other blogs. The namecalling. So if we say the wrong thing??? “Idiots?” Sigh. It’s hard to know what the right thing to say is. Believe me I didn’t expect this thread AT ALL.

  • FranSC

    I think it is the timing of Larry’s remarks. The inauguration is a very painful reminder for most of us of something that is still too painful to accept, given the circumstances.

    I understand the thinking that we need to be constructive and not spend the next four years chewing him up and spitting him out. But, I also know the way Obama got to this day cannot be summarily forgotten, just as George W. Bush’s partisan selection by the Supreme Court could not be forgotten.

    That didn’t make GWB any less the president any more than BO’s fraudulent path to victory can make him any less the president.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Like some very smart person said during the GE…If Obama gets elected, it’s not America that needs to worry about its borders…It’s Canada and Mexico! LMFAO.

  • Animal Control

    Wow, didn’t know date of death. If true then my carectarization as “slime” is too nice-but my vocabulary is limited.

    Thanks for the info.

  • http://www.anova.org/software/ zaine_ridling

    Well said, Larry. I’m perfectly willing to give the man a chance, too, based on his actions, not his words. And being from Missouri, too, he’s got a lot of work to do and not much time for using the TV and speeches as his personal mirror.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    Just when the millenials want to sweep the boomers under the rug, perhaps the most important fight against conformity is about to begin.

    What the millenials don’t want to understand is that the boomers are a far more rich in numbers and resources generation than they are. They don’t want to recognize that we boomers reincarnated – if you will – to do a job. That job is to not conform to the social morays of the times.

    Will we be put into the role of movers and shakers once again after the kool-aid fueled concert is over?

    While many boomers and younger voters have been wooed by Obama, he’ll have to really come up to standards lest the boomers get disillusioned and turn into Obama’s worst nightmare.

    Individualism is the antithesis to conformity and so far, we’re being told to conform.

    Interesting.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    Oops, my bad, mores not morays.

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Here Judy – I will sing with you:
    *we told you sooooooooooo*

    Developing: HBO says they aren’t to blame for not including Gene Robinson in concert special

    http://www.afterelton.com/blog/michaeljensen/developing-hbo-not-blame-exclusion-gene-robinson

    “The producer of the concert has said that the Presidential Inaugural Committee made the decision to keep the invocation as part of the pre-show.”

    He’s not President YET! ;O)

  • apishapa

    What I told my daughter who voted for Obama because she felt McCain would be a worse choice after Hillary ceased to be an option is this. I hope Obama is a better President than I think he will be. I think he is a fool and a liar. He’s proven his lack of character again and again in the lies he’s told and his complete lack of conscience in throwing one group after another to the wolves at first indication they might become a political liability. He is completely without a moral compass as far as I can discern.

    However, we are stuck with him and I hope for the sake of this nation I love that he proves me wrong. I am somewhat heartened that Hillary will be there to try to steer us in the right direction.

    However, Obama is not Martin Luther King Jr., He is not JFK or RFK and he is not Abe Lincoln. It is time for this man to tell this country who he is and try to form a thought on his own without stealing everyone else’s legacies. I have never seen anyone so obsessed with trying to claim he represents the legacy of every great man in our history without ever providing any evidence he is capable of doing a daned thing. It is time to cowboy up.

    If he is going to save this country he needs to be a man himself and stop playing dress up. This country is in serious peril and we need a true leader capable of walking in his own shoes, not a child playing make believe he is someone else.

  • UKforDems

    Comment by AMERICA R.I.P. | 2009-01-19 17:55:53

    UKforDems-the-Troll,

    You Obots kill me. It’s posted on two sites – Yidwithalid and Atlas Shrugs. But, if you weren’t brain dead, it specifies exactly where the ACORN bailout funds are in the report. Duh. I am kind of new to this site and don’t know how to link. Grow up Bot. Obama is a joke.

    Great sources. Atlas Shrugs, the blog that named Bush the Greatest President ever. It shows exactly where you come from. You Bush scum amuse me. You still have no idea why you lost. 69 million people know exactly why though.

    Grow up. Obama is to be President.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Chill. We don’t ban people except for grievous reasons. And then, if we have communication with the person, and we come to a good understanding, we let them post again.

    We’re really giant teddy bears.

    Larry is sounding off because he’s astonished by the reaction to his post. I mean, LOOK AT THE LAST PARAGRAPH! He says it all right there!

    And I’m with him. I don’t think Obama is some monster who’s going to take us into a Nazi-like state. In fact, I think he’s far too laid back and WAY too lazy to do much of anything, which scares me more.

    And he is so damn cautious, it’s frustrating. Now he won’t even commit to undoing Bush’s executive order on stem cells! Jesus!

    That’s really what people should be worried about! That he’s not going to take enough decisive actions to get us out of the messes we’re in. (Btw, Ani is preparing a GREAT piece on the “crises” we’re facing and she has a great retort to all of that. But I won’t say what because we’re publishing it tomorrow and I don’t want to steal her thunder.)

    I’m really the most worried about Congress, led by those two nincompoops Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. God help us.

    Like I said in another thread, I cannot believe that Obama’s now top economic adviser Larry Summers had to WAIT AND WAIT to talk to the senators about the emergency financing measures because why? Because those dopes were too busy debating about seating Roland Burris. Oh my god. I can’t believe all the energy and time wasted on that silly little issue. He was appointed by a man who’s still the legitimate governor of Illinois. End of story. Seat him. And MOVE ON. Get some REAL WORK done.

    And now Obama wants to shift responsibility for stem cell research to Congress?

    Oh great. How long will that take? A year or two? At the least?

    All these groups — the stem cell people have organizations and there was a group of 21 Nobel laureates — who were absolutely beside themselves with excitement that Obama would rescind that order on Day One. Nope. Not gonna happen.

    I.e., what I’m trying to convey is that he isn’t some beastly monster who’s going to mess up everything . I’m most afraid he’s not going to do ANYTHING.

    Thank god we have Hillary and Gen. Jones for foreign policy. Those two WILL get things done. Thank god. And they’ll tell it to Obama straight. He’ll steal the credit, but I don’t care — they will get him to get it done. And that’s what counts.

  • catherine

    They’ll still love their father but keep their disappointment or misgivings private. Like all children do.

  • chandler

    A decent person ? Are you kidding? He had his first political opponent thrown off the ballot(a woman) and has been underhanded and unethical ever since. His passport and birth certificate have been hidden and most likely scrubbed. I can not believe that you Larry johnson are defending Obama. Little girls love their daddies to a fault no matter what you jerk, even when daddy is molesting and abusing them. So Obamas kids pose for a few adoring pictures for the press and suddenly he is legit? Obama gives Hillary the finger and sings a Jay Z song about Hillary, denigrating all women, including his wife and daughters and you think he is a decent person?

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    I didn’t vote for Bush moron. I was a Dem until your boss stole the primary and committed so many acts of fraud. Obama won’t be President for long. This country doesn’t support criminals in the White House.

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    i LOVE LOVE LOVE this comment.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Chandler…All you have to do is ask Alice Palmer about what a great guy Obama is. His whole career has been about cheating.

  • no kidding

    Hillary or Bust — I totally agree with you. When I look at Obama I see someone who is not up to this job and has no experience which shows me the contrary. Times are tough right now and he threatens the most volnerable generation seniors (with cutting what for most of them is their only source of income) in his desire to have deficit reduction and stimulus. This is an oximoron in itself. You can’t reduce what you want to stimulate with greater growth.

    When we need a critical media giving us real news. I see instead a media who fawns over a man who is basically a novice. CNN said today that his speech will be carved in marble one day. PEOPLE WANT CHANGE says AOL but what kind of change. I have waited 2 years for him to tell me — but Obama has veered left and right so often I’m surprised he doesn’t have whip lash. We are told we all must support him, why? Isn’t a critical discerning public vital to a Democracy?

    The question is not do we wish him well but does he wish us well?

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Oh, you can bet Larry will remember his past. Look at the huge number of articles that Larry wrote about all that – hundreds of pieces (!).

    And it is absolutely certain that Larry will refer to those past acts.

    In fact, when we talked earlier today on the phone, I mentioned that Charlie Rose interview of Rashid Khalidi last week on Gaza. (I posted that, fully expecting that you’d all be SCREAMING about Khalidi being on the Rose show — but I barely got any comments at all.)

    Anyway, Larry watched Khalidi, and I said something about his knowledge of Gaza. Then Larry mentioned to me Khalidi’s past with terrorist groups, and that it remains worrisome that Obama hung out so much with Khalidi — a fact that not many people really got (that they were actually good friends and that they had dinner frequently, talked a lot, and probably still talk once in a while). LARRY IS FULLY COGNIZANT of all of history. He sure made that evident to me today.

    You have nothing to worry about re Larry remembering Obama’s past acts and his past associations.

    Obama may avoid Khalidi these days, but for all we know he still chats with Khalidi, and those two have talked about Gaza. We don’t know because the media aren’t reporting anything like that, and even they can’t know all of the calls that Obama makes.

    But I think Larry’s right that what we have to do now is watch what Obama does starting tomorrow afternoon. I.e., we need to focus on the PRESENT and the FUTURE. Why? That’s obvious: We have to watch him like hawks, and make sure he’s doing his job and not getting us into any more messes. (And yes, mindful of his past acts and associations. After the hundreds of articles we wrote about all that, how can anyone think we won’t use that material we have in our archives? Of course we will!)

  • UKforDems

    So you claim you voted McPalin, your news source is the most racist of Rethug blogs, and you claim to not be a Rethug. If you voted Republican after 8 years of Bush you are an ultra committed Republican. Simple as. Simple does.

  • Strawberrybitch

    So Larry, would you be pissed at me if I told you I bought a black candle for tomorrow? Hey it worked for Bush 1, he only lasted one term and then we got Bill! I’m not wishing ill will on Obama, but I am wishing that all the nasty things he pulled to get elected come back to bite him on his butt. But you’re right, the horse has left the barn, slamming the barn door shut and stomping up and down won’t change that…but…he just rubs me the wrong way. I’ll be watching to, but please don’t fault me if I take a little pleasure in watching him sweat. This job is going to eat him alive no matter how many Hawaiian vacations he takes.

  • barry bums a ciggie

    Well said apishaba. He invokes the history of great men and tries to tell us that he’s made of the same stuff. Uh, there’s nothing in his history that shows us that is the case. I don’t like him but do not want him to fail with our country under his leadership. However, I’m not too optimistic about the next four years.

  • elise

    Susan, I had occasion this past weekend to return to an old Politico post after a disagreement between two people here at nq re the 99 problems charge against Obama after the Iowa caucus. I began to read the comments there and after all these months have past, I still found the hatred against Hillary breath taking and painful. I was reminded of why I ended up at nq. Well, I was banned at Hufpo and Dailykos, but voluntarily left TM when she said if we, Hillary’s people, didn’t fall in line, there would be political payback for Hillary. She didn’t seem to have a problem with that concept. Someone on her blog mentioned nq.

    This morning FOX reported, with a great deal of glee, that Jill Biden said on an appearance with Oprah, that her husband was given a choice between VP and SoS. They said she “let it slip”. Now, there are only two conclusions here:
    She is stupid and runs her mouth as much as her husband or it was a deliberate attempt to undermine the new SoS.

    There are few people in this country right now who do not realize how close we are to going over the edge in the economy and our foreign policy. All of us to one degree or another want Obama to succeed. It would be foolish to hope for his failure. For some of us, Hillary’s position as SoS is a two edged sword.

    She may or may not be angry at this latest insult, but there is no doubt in my mind she will put her whole heart into this position. As for me, it has fueled my anger and increased my disdain for Obama and Biden, particularly after the speeches they made on their train ride about coming together as Americans to solve the problems we are all facing.

    We all know and remember the hateful way we have been treated and our value dismissed by this new administration and the nasty little people who put them in office. Especially since many of them haven’t even the slightest recognition of what is important.

    Larry said we don’t have a choice and he’s right. I don’t hate BO any more than I hate Bush and Cheney. I have never wished for harm to come to anyone. They all have to face the consequences of their choices and unfortunately, so do we. But,nq is a haven for me. Even when I don’t agree or post comments, I read everything. There are too many syncopates already and strong opposition is needed.

    We need truth and it will never be welcome to some. I don’t like quoting a Nazi, but Goebbels said, “Truth is the enemy of the state” and he understood how to use lies to manipulate the population. As Dr Long has pointed out, omission is also a “sin” and a lie.

    Please continue to do what you have done for so long. If nq would ever become an apoligist for the Obama administration, many of us will suffer from the lose.

  • tek

    I don’t care if he’s Jesus Christ Superstar, he trashed the Clinton legacy to promote himself and I will never like him. He’s the president and I hope he does a good job for the country. I will always wish we had Hillary.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    You bet I am a Republican now. I’m AMERICAN. And while you paid Bots sit around hating on America, waiting for your rebate checks and free rides…we are loving our country and praying it survives a bunch of spendthrift, CLUELESS, way too far left, greedy, corrupt, cheating, lying criminals. People like you actually probably support the Wicked Witch of the West, Pelosi. Well, no worries there, 55 Million people didn’t vote for Obama because we used our brains. Within a year all of your brain dead voting buddies will wish they would have done some READING before they voted and in 2010 and 2012 this country will make a big change and boot out the leftie idiots who brought us Fannie and Freddie, etc. Do you have 62 Million Dollars? No, but Nancy Pelosi does. Do you have 19 Million Dollars? No, but that rage filled nut Rahm Emanuel does. Hmmm…where did they get it? Your party is so filthy and corrupt that no decent person would belong to it. Ever. But I bet you are under 21, not well educated and living in your mother’s basement. I hung up the Dem wings in the Primary. I left it to America haters like you. Good luck with that. Evil only goes on for so long and then we put an end to it.

  • FranSC

    I don’t think adoration of a parent by children young or old is necessarily a good barometer for the parent’s overall character. In fact in some cases a parent’s adoration of their own children is akin to adoring him/herself. This is not intended to criticize good parents, though.

    I suspect BO tries harder to be that adoring or adored parent since he basically didn’t have a father. Adoring parents can easily become indulgent parents who mistake that for love. As I heard George Foreman say, “As a parent, love is spelled T I M E.”

  • catherine

    Well this is exactly what many of us have said all along. It’s Bush’s 3rd term! And for pointing out Obama’s repetitive failures and broken promises as both a state and US Senator we were called “racists”.

    For pointing out that whatever Hillary’s imperfections may be she has a solid history of public SERVICE and she WILL fight for what she believes we were called “racists”.

    Tomorrow is a very difficult and painful day for us …especially those of us in Florida who YET AGAIN must watch a feckless, arrogant usurper who trampled on our rights as voters take the helm of the nation and our future.

    I did’nt deceive myself about Bush even when I tried to say to myself 8 years ago “He can’t be that bad….even though his brother helped him cheat. How much damage can he do?” Oh God, he was truly worse than I could have ever imagined!

    So I’m not going to deceive myself about Obama either. Like Bush, the warning signs were always there.

    My only solace is that Hillary and other Clintonistas are doing nanny duty, but it’s a sad day after MLK’s holiday that because of the color of Barack Obama’s skin so many did not dare judge the content of his character.

  • Jackarooty

    Great comment. I have always felt that Obama wanted to become President not be President, not unlike some women I know who wanted to get married but not be married.
    I still think he’ll walk into the Oval Office alone tomorrow and say, “OH SHIT!”

  • tek

    I believe people can wear many different faces and none of them is a ruse. People are complex. I know lots of men who are great fathers but they aren’t very good people. It’s easy to love your own. I just think this election was fixed, Oama knew it was corrupt, and he signed on with no pangs of conscience whatsoever. Not my idea of a great character. And if I never see another presidential candidate call a former great Democratic First Lady a bitch, I’ll never miss it. Here’s hoping the term is applied to Michelle liberally and we’ll see how Obama deals with it.

  • cc

    I agree so saddened…it’s very disheartening that those of us who have not and refuse to drink the koolaid have fewer and fewer safe havens.

    I would never condone any speech that espouses violence, however I will also NEVER support BO as my president. I don’t want the nation to suffer, but I think it’s highly offensive bo is taking office when he doesn’t rightfully deserve it and he did it by conning the american public. it’s despicable and disgraceful.

    I’m also sad to know there is absolutely no enforcement of our constitution or other election laws, both of which bo thumbed his nose at repeatedly. very very sad what our country has become.

  • no kidding

    jan — You are consumed by the word hate. As an American I have an investment in who becomes President. Especially since I am in that vulnerable generation of Seniors Obama has no problem blaming for the runaway spending incurred because of the credit crunch and the Wallstree meltdown. While he kisses up to the youth he trashes Seniors–is this what he means by the torch being passed to a new generation, torching the older generation. Now he is going to appear in Spiderman Comics for 8 year olds. This looks like he is pitting the young against the old and this was not what he promised began his run.

    I am worried that Seniors will be used as the scapegoat. One man cannot destroy a great nation but he can do a hell of alot of damage.

  • Ex-Democrat

    Thank God there are still some real people out there. The comments on this blog give me some hope that we may one day be able to get our democracy back. We must stick together to keep these crooks out of office.

    Bush STOLE it.
    Obama BOUGHT it.

    Let’s DEMAND our democracy back!

  • PKJayne

    The natives are restless.

    Gawd love each one of them, I know I do!

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    “If true.” Yeah, Animal Control… “if true.” But do you figure it is true? Just because America R.I.P. said so without even linking to a source?

    Do yourself a favor, AC, and don’t buy any bridges the next time you’re in Brooklyn.

    Because you fall for every outlandish Internet hoax that sprays itself across your screen.

    R.I.P. didn’t even get the lie right. Nobody “dug up Grandma’s death certificate.” The hoax is that “the death records of Madelyn L Dunham were falsified at the direct and specific request of Barack Obama and [his sister] Maya Ng.”

    This tall tale was posted online on December 24 by none other than… (wait for it)… Larry Sinclair!

    Now, Animal Control… don’t you feel like an absolute jackass?

  • Katmoon

    I agree, he is their father first and foremost. Only when they grow up will there be a maturity to reflect and form their own opinion on the events that transpired to put him in the office of the president.

  • mlr701

    I’m taking the attitude that I didn’t support him, didn’t vote for him, but that I really hope he does a good job. We need a good president after the disaster of Bush. I realized today that I’m just glad that Bush will be gone tomorrow – and that we made it! I never thought this day would come for years ago, but it did. I’m very happy about that.

  • Andrew P

    “So many people have this belief that he is the U.S.”

    Yes, and as an Anglo-American I believe that this attitude illustrates the greatest weakness of the fine constitutional system created by the Founders: our head of state is a politician. The result is a completely unwarranted attitude of reverence for the person holding the office. In the UK no one believes that the Prime Minister should be supported just because he or she is in charge of the government. The LACK of respect for the political leader may be seen every week during Question Time in the Commons.

    George Washington objected to the widely held view that he ought to become a constitutional monarch, but, along with most of the other Founders, he also held out hope that the new United States would not become a nation ruled by contending parties. When people feel that the current inhabitant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave is not their president, they have no one else to turn to as a symbol. A monarchy would not be the answer for this country, but times like these do illustrate one of the main reasons the anachronism of royal privilege continues to exist elsewhere. For my part, I wish 0 nothing but ill, and hope his appearance on the political stage is a short one. I believe he is a scoundrel. It’s the country I wish well. We could use a little “God Save” in our national anthem right now, but not for anybody but ourselves.

  • UKforDems

    Comment by DanNY | 2009-01-19 14:42:04

    I don’t believe any of your NQ regular readers are racist or bigotted!!!! the Obama administration on the other hand and most of his supporters including many pundits are going out of their way to make him into the FIRST AFRICAN PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES and that is insane. They must not like being American. They want us all to be Africans tomorrow. I say divided we fall. Obama should address this issue of “African Americans” VS Americans and let the world know that we are all Americans. I don’t go around insisting that people recognise me as an Irish Scottish, Welsh, Indian, ect. American.

    I see Obama only as a fallable and imperfect American President just like all the others. I’m not happy that he is President and I know HE IS PRESIDENT because I FIRMLY believe Hillary would have been the a better, the best American President ever. Now we have to suffer through mediocrity again!

    Good Luck Larry trying to get the class to shut up and behave.

    Call me an idiot – I just dislike everything about the Obama administration and the media hype they pour out on him is discusting.

    In terms of racism or bigotry, some members have ventured on to [EDITED BY ADMIN]. Another here goes on about Obama coming from Kanya. (If the stupid racist is going to go on about his roots at least spell Kenya properly).

    What is this “dis cus ting” you go on about? A new form of pie?

    As for not being an “African President”, I guess that this will never have been enough for you
    “There is not a black America and a white America and Latino America and Asian America — there’s the United States of America.”

  • DisenfranchisedVoter

    Larry, I thought you were wrong on Obama being a socialist and I think you are wrong today. I respect your opinions but the truth is that you are a an independent Republican and I’m a liberal Democrat. I believed Obama was to the right of Clinton on the issues and he’s proven himself to be a moderate who panders to the right. That might appeal to you but it doesn’t appeal to me.

    After 8 years of Bush, I wanted a liberal in the White House pushing a liberal agenda on health care, social security, constitutional rights, gay and women’s rights, and affirmative action. Obama is the opposite of all of the things I’ve listed. On top of that Obama has acted like a Republican from the get go by using race baiting, sexism, and voter disenfranchisement to win.

    Again, this does not surprise me because the only thing we shared was our support for Hillary Clinton but I never believed Obama was a socialist. It might breathe a sigh of relief because Obama is not what you claimed him to be during the election, but Obama ran with the Democratic Party and I expect him to act like one to please me and not you.

  • PKJayne

    api, well said!

  • Mort

    I don’t call what you just wrote racism, i just call it stupidity and blind ignorance.

    There is a reason the supreme court threw that case out. It has no merit!

    Obama has a Hawaiian birth certificate, you’re just too xenophobic and racist to read it.

  • oowawa

    Basil, consider. If the Almighty Spam Filter is to function effectively, its mystic ways must be a dark secret. If we could formulate any rules as to what triggers the filter, the spammers would take advantage of these rules and soon the filter would be useless to filter spam.

    I assume that in order for the filter to function at all, there is going to be “collateral damage,” which means that some perfectly legitimate posts are going to be trashed.

    I personally think that some posts are arbitrarily trashed in order to keep the filtering rules enigmatic. Do I know what I’m talking about? Not at all, but I love to talk about it.

  • Katmoon

    It’s that sick feeling, of reality and what we are stuck with; the inauguration is like a nail in the coffin of those who were exhausted from the last 8 years, hoping like hell the next four would bring us some real work for all Americans. The DNC literally killed that hope and created a new group of independents. I am not a supporter, as mentioned above, I will keep a wary eye; however you can bet I have been working at a local level to keep myself an informed independent, cultivating a voice to at least be heard by those who will listen.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Mort,

    You’re too ignorant to read the SCOTUS rulings, clearly. None of them said that Obama was born in Hawaii. And if you can show me a REAL BC, fine. But you can’t. You are the ignoramus. And, by the way, there are two more cases in the Supreme Court, and more will be filed. No one is going to stop until your fraudulent boss shows the real BC, which of course will show he was born in Kenya. You’re too much of a moron to understand that your boss, Obama, spending 800,000 in legal fees to HIDE that BC is a crime. Period.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    True. Everything about Obama has been/is make-believe.

    He has to try and attach himself to the Kennedys, Lincoln, and MLK jr because he has no subtance of his own. Reality doesn’t seem to be one of his strong suits. He just mouths words that his handlers have told him the masses want to hear.

    Can’t any dig up more on the rumor of schizophrenia that floats around? Or is there an article somewhere about this? Could this be the reason for his lack of transparency with his records, specifically his medical records?

    It does seem that Obama has an alternate universe he walks around in.

  • no kidding

    jan get over yourself. You parse everyone’s words because you cannot stand that we have the right to speak them. I pray that Obama will bring us together but I doubt it. That’s not what he was given 700 Million to do. Sadly, we will only find out what his real agenda after it happens.

    Meantime let the Circus begin and to this country I say PRIDE GOETH BEFORE THE FALL.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    True. Everything about Obama has been/is make-believe.

    He has to try and attach himself to the Kennedys, Lincoln, and MLK jr because he has no subtance of his own. Reality doesn’t seem to be one of his strong suits. He just mouths words that his handlers have told him the masses want to hear.

    Can’t anyone dig up more on the rumor of schizophrenia that floats around? Or is there an article somewhere about this? Could this be the reason for his lack of transparency with his records, specifically his medical records?

    It does seem that Obama has an alternate universe he walks around in.

  • Andrew P

    “Obama can’t screw up any more than GWB.”

    Wanna bet?

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    I am just hoping no one lets him near the red phone or the button.

    He must not be left alone.

  • wodiej

    what’s the matter, did your Jim Jones Kool Aid party get cancelled?

  • Snickers

    disenguous is too kind. The man out and out lied. And I do not trust him. I also don’t think he’s a well-meaning individual. I think he’s corrupt, he pays to play, and he’s inexperienced. Embracing him and his administration condones all the misogyny and sexism of this past election, not to mention all the lies and corruption. I think our country is going to be going through some rough times with someone at the helm who only knows how to pose for photos and spend money. I don’t wish him ill, but I don’t have much hope that he can actually be a leader.

  • apishapa

    Larry, maybe you can to some extent determine that a person has a good heart based on how his children feel about him, but not when they are still cvhildren. Obama’s girls don’t know any of the things that have been exposed about him. Most of the country is unaware of the highly questionable actions he has taken and the curious lack of background information available. Do you think he’s told his girls about Rezko, Auchi, Khalidi and Ayers? Not likely. Thery love him becaue he is their father and he loves them.

    No, I think how he treated his grandmother is a much better indication of Obama’s character than how he treats his children. He did not allow his dying grandmother to visit those girls when they were in the same town. Would you do that to the woman who raised you. He did not even attend her funeral. Would you do that to the woman who raised you? He called her a bigot when she was dying for no other reason than to profit politically. A good man does not treat those who love him like that. Obama’s character has been on display for months, and it is not pretty.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    The 22nd amendment was written with the likes of Obama in mind. Yes, I know the background history of it.

    Perhaps if it gets legs to have it removed it will be the first course of action to get the country back.

  • wodiej

    oh crap…well said!!

  • libby

    I invoke Godwin’s law here.

  • Ferd berfle

    This all vaguely sounds like the call for Democrats in 2000 to just get over it. I remember the justified complaints from the Democrats as the man who should have rightfully taken office was left in the lurch. How things might have been different had Gore been elected.

    Then the PUMAs/HRC supporters were essentially told the same thing by the people who were victims in the first instance. This sort of ethical relativism is breathtaking in its sheer hypocrisy.

    Yes, Larry, he is the President. But unlike the sun rising in the East, which cannot be changed by mere humans, this situation could have been avoided and the analogy falls somewhat flat. It was not pre-ordained that he be the next President.

    To me, he is nothing more than a second Dubya and I refused to listen to that man any more than I had to. Thankfully he was a man of a few broken sentences and did not beat his gums at every open moment. I will have to be vigilant to be able to get through the next four years without having to listen to That One.

  • libby

    A person with a good heart would have condemned the attacks on Hillary, Palin, and Joe the Plumber. Obama did not.
    ===============
    Did they not attack him? Have you forgotten their words? doh.

    As for the rest of your comment, I didn’t see it. Sorry.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    No, UBM, you’re the jackass. Yeah, right, his grandma HAPPENED to die on the night BEFORE the election? ROFLMAO. Why don’t you post a REAL death certificate for the woman? You can’t. Just like the BC. You Obots just kill me.

  • Ferd berfle

    Sorry–this was meant to be posted as a stand-alone, mir701. Mea culpa.

  • Pat Racimora

    I’m willing to give Larry’s notion a chance. My cartoon (below this article–as of now anyway) is truly where I stand. I don’t know who Obama really is. He is a brand name. I have a lot of trouble with his past associations. I have even more trouble with his lack of experience. He is a packaged entity.

    NOW comes the test. I have seem some good things (Hillary as SOS, as my favorite example) and some troubling signs (a lot of backtracking on his promises on issues that were important to me).

    I am going to watch him and his administration like a hawk. And when I am worried, out will pop a toon.

  • wodiej

    I second that!

  • mdmdstork

    How many kids of mafia Don’s love their daddies? Just because his kids seem to love him doesn’t mean he’s a good guy. We have a lot of practice having President’s we didn’t want and don’t like. I think most of us wish him well but after 8 years of GWB, we don’t feel too confident in his abilities or his motivation.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    LOL on the black candle.

    Just remember the Law of three.

    Jan 21st the real world begins. Will Obama be voted off the island in 2012?

    That’s a goal to believe in.

    LOL!

  • Ferd berfle

    Bush STOLE it.
    Obama BOUGHT it.

    And we are PAYING for it.

  • basil

    Will all the hoopla be over TOMORROW!!!!!

    Say yes, please.

    :mad:

  • libby

    Yeah. It’s a conspiracy. The Real Larry is gone, gone, gone. Puh-lease.

  • no kidding

    Jan its called free speech and while we have that right we are going to use it. Rush Limbaugh was criticized by Mike Allen of Politico.com saying that Limbaugh had marginalized himself by not getting on the Obama bandwagon and that he would lose his listeners unless he became more mainstream. Those 20 Million who listen to Limbaugh daily should be the ones to decide whether they want to listen to him or not.

    I getting the distinct impression that to speak truth to power is going to be against the law soon and the excuse will be its not nice to complain about our President. A healthy Democracy thrives on free speech. We don’t need the nicety nicety police telling us how we are supposed to feel.

  • Katmoon

    No, Basil, I think this will be trumped up to be a Presidency of firsts, unfortunately. Therefore every damned mundane thing will be news.

  • Snickers

    I think PEBO is a crook and a liar. Coming from the worst political scumpond in the nation does not make him Mr. Nice Guy. I don’t trust him. He’s continued to lie and reneg on promises. He’s set women’s rights and equality back decades. He wants to continue Dubya’s faith-based initiatives only expand them, he’s openly contempted women and gays with his selections for inauguration activities or cabinet posts, and now he wants to tamper with social security and medicare? I’ll never trust the Democrats again, and certainly not this crook. Here we are our economy pretty much in the toilet and all PEBO can do is hold the most expensive party in history. Yeah, he really cares about this country, our problems, and its citizens – NOT. I didn’t trust Dubya and I don’t trust That One. nuff said.

  • Ferd berfle

    Feckless

    Good adjective, though I still prefer shiftless.

  • EWard

    Larry

    In the current climate of Obamamania, the opposition is being silenced. During the campaign, people and groups were called racists if real questions were asked about Obama’s leadership abilities.

    Is there racism in this country? Yes, but Obama exploits it for the benefit of furthering his political career. The housing projects that Rezko built with Obama’s help are in dire shape. Guess who came to the rescue? We did, because taxpayers have to automatically foot the bill.

    In the age of the Internet, the political landscape has shifted to these mass marketing campaigns through the Web, Acorn, the MSM blogs, unions, and other foreign and community groups.

    The real crux of an Obama administration is how he operates under the radar. In this stimulus bill, there is talk that some money will go to Acorn. That is outrageous. If President Bush hired an organization that was known for voter fraud, there would be an outcry in the press. However, the media focuses on Obama’s dog, the foolish comparisons to Lincoln, JFK, and FDR, and his Hawaiian vacation.

    The NQ posters are very smart to follow Obama’s actions.

    Case in point – BO nominated Republican Ray LaHood to be his Secretary of Transportation. Great, he’s working with the Republicans. However, LaHood is close to Chicago Republican moneyman, Bill Cellini. He just happens to be the head of the Asphalt Assn. It’s obvious Cellini’s company will benefit from Obama’s massive infrastructure projects.

    An honest Obama would separate himself from Acorn, Chicago politicians, and all the dirty money coming in to his campaign. However, he’s doing the opposite.

    If the economy and our national security are priorities for him, why has he already set up the infrastructure for his 2012 campaign?

    One more thing, I use to enjoy watching the news. I can’t even turn on my TV without listening to gibberish and slobbering over Obama. I feel like a prisoner in my own country when the Fourth Estate is used as a propaganda machine. There is no oversight or accountability on their part. In the real world, they would lose their jobs.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    OH

    MY

    GOD

    How ridiculous! Obama insisted that he HAD to be sworn in on LINCOLN’S BIBLE. Where in the HELL does this guy get off? Every day this gets to be more of a JOKE.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-01-19-Lincoln-bible_N.htm

  • no kidding

    Jan — this is different because the economy is in free fall. Stores and businesses are closing everyday. So many homes are in foreclosure and Obama himself admits it will get way worse before it gets better. It would be nice to have someone with experience running this country but instead we have a self professed superstar who pretends to be everyone else and has no sense of self –while preening before cameras showing off his body. I am embarrassed for him and the country. Threatening the Social Safety Net for Seniors and saying that we all must sacrifice while spending 170 Million on a party for himself is the wrong way to begin a presidency.

  • Strawberrybitch

    Oh yeah, that’s right…the law of Three. After we got Bill, we got Bush 2…well, I did forget to burn a candle the day Junior took office. Oops, my bad.

  • Ferd berfle

    Give it a rest, Mort. I don’t hate That One. I just think he’s unfit, unqualified, and dangerous. He’s also secretive, narcissistic, and prone to flights of fancy.

    There’s no hate here, just observations. If you don’t like them, refute them. I’ll await your response.

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    R.I.P., why didn’t you tell NQ readers that your were spreading Larry Sinclair’s horseshit? You know most of these folks are easily duped.

  • Snickers

    And until I see his vaulted birth certificate I don’t believe he’s eligible to be POTUS. And then there’s that little matter of the adoption so that he became an Indonesian…What I don’t understand is that everyone else has to hand over their papers but this guy gets to lock them up and tell us too bad. What happened to the Constitution? No, I will not trust this man – ever!

  • http://theheraclitanfire.blogspot.com/ Craig Della Penna

    Susan:

    You can be sure I will participate in holding his feet to the fire. The point I’m making here is that the propaganda campaign for our acquiescence has already begun – and we can all be affected.

    Larry can offer an olive branch and say show me but some of us want proof of honor first from this guy.

  • JulieD

    OJ’s kids were crazy about him!

  • Jan

    We don’t know if the whitey tape is nonsense, excepting Larry’s explanation, which I believe, we don’t know the tape doesn’t exist, either?

    Right?

    Why do you keep spinning this issue, you’re discrediting yourself.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    It boils down to this. The American people want a transparent presidency. So far, Obama has been anything BUT transparent.

    There must be accountability for every hour and everything he does. Obama has given the country NOTHING to trust.

    He backtracks. He lies. He obfuscates. He cheats. The only thing that could be said about his transparency is that we know he does all these things and then we are supposed to give the guy a chance?

    Abuse, anyone?

  • Jan

    I don’t think Clinton was beat in a tough election, I think the election was fixed.

    So, I would differ with Larry, there.

  • Ferd berfle

    In the news tonight, President-Elect Barack Obama got a hangnail. Film at 11.

    It is going to be a looooong, tedious four years a-comin’.

  • WildChild

    I prefer full of shit.

  • JulieD

    BO’s an eel – I mean heel. A regular snake in the ass – I mean grass.

  • Ferd berfle

    One must be ever vigilant, the price of freedom.

  • truthtelling007

    sorry, but no.
    This post is consumed by the word hate. Jan is simply responding to the abundance of hate.

    It is her opinion that hate is destructive and I will stand by her right to espouse such an opinion.

  • NDB

    That’s because you have little or no critical thinking skills, Jan.

  • Katmoon

    True, we vent here, and take action locally, as in getting involved at whatever level each can stomach politically. Most here pay attention and know the score. But if I am going to volunteer it is going to be somewhere I have a way to try and work towards defeating the ridiculous caucus system and such. Thankful for a safe place as NQ to vent my disgust, and also know I must be willing to work from my small area to learn more, know more, change with actual action, not by prestidigitation by means of divining with a damned blackberry to constituents.

  • JulieD

    I have to go with “Crook”.

  • Ferd berfle

    That, too.

  • Katmoon

    Can’t wait to see them. Your art has a nice little sting to it. Pat, you paint great commentary with your drawings.

  • BlueTopaz

    He lied, he cheated and he stole the nom. as well as the election. He crapped on the Clintons, he voted FOR FISA so we can continue to be spyed on yet he discloses little about himself. He is not to be trusted, period!!!!

    Barack has been a loving, supportive father. Mob members are loving to thier children, too. It’s how you treat what isn’t yours that is telling about the soundness of one’s character, IMO anyway.

    I have a grasp on reality, I know we are stuck with him. The only success I wish him concerns the state of the country and planet. I “hope” someday he acquires a conscience and it haunts him for the rest of his life.

  • Ferd berfle

    After Joe made his choice he pushed hard for Hillary.

    I’ll believe that when I hear it from coming from HRC to my lying ears. Otherwise it is mere speculation.

  • UKforDems

    The kids are OFF LIMITS.

  • fif

    maybe, just maybe, she has accepted she got beat in a tough campaign and believes Barack will be able to do the job?

    What? She did not “get beat!” Have we forgotten about voter suppression, manipulation and fraud? She won more votes that any primary candidate in Dem history. She was engineered out of the nomination. That’s my fundamental objection to Obama–he is illegitimate.

    Second, I respect that you want to evaluate his actions going forward, but if we do not hold these actors accountable for fraud, then what is the basis of our democracy? He said we should not investigate Bush, but instead “look forward.” WHEN is it appropriate to require that our leaders be responsible and honest? My issue with this post is that you suggest that Obama has a “decent character.” If we are judging him by his actions, then I don’t see how anyone can come to that conclusion.

  • msliberal

    So now parents are judged by what their children think of them? Ever see a bad kid come from a good family, and good kid from bad family? Ever hear of PAS?

    Judgment has to come from what a person has accomplished, friends they have hung out with and choices they have made; not to mention in particular, and most importantly, how they treat others.

    Do you all remember hearing that if a number of people tell you that you look sick, you may just start feeling sick? Well a number of people told him he could be president and he started to believe it. Doesn’t mean you are sick or he can be president.

    May he find a train back home: Where ever he claims it to be today.

  • Ferd berfle

    Bravo to the Canadians. It’s a pity they didn’t hold him for a few days in a dank cell with the music of Barry Manilow music playing at about 90 decibels.

  • http://firefox AnnieCollier

    They gave an illegal alien drug smuggler immunity (previously deported, I believe and after immunity, caught again trying to import drugs)before the fiasco of a trial. The two agents thought he was reaching for a gun, shot him in the buttocks. However, they were not believed but the drug dealer was! Please. They deserve a metal along with, not just commuted sentences, but a full pardon and apology. Guess Rob doesn’t know there’s a drug war going on at our southern border or perhaps he’s just been using too much “product”.

  • fif

    Obama did not “beat” Hillary. He & the DNC used voter suppression, manipulation and fraud to engineer his delegate count. She won more votes that any primary candidate in Dem history. That’s my fundamental objection to Obama–he is illegitimate. I cannot “forget” fraud and hypocrisy because his daughters love him.

    Second, I respect that you want to evaluate his actions going forward, but if we do not hold these actors accountable for fraud, then what is the basis of our democracy? My disagreement with this post is that you suggest that Obama has a “decent character.” If we are judging him by his actions, then I don’t see how anyone can come to that conclusion.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Yeah right…Kind of like Palin’s kids were OFF LIMITS to the Dem/Scum Pond. Like when they attacked her special needs child and said she didn’t give birth to him. ROFLMAO. Nice try BOT.

  • truthtelling007

    Larry posted his view and it is clear that those who have decided they are married to their hatred never really appreciated who Larry Johnson really is. They adored him when he seemed to be singing their song, validating their hatred, but then when they found out he wasn’t validating their hatred, they turned on him. Haven’t we heard this tune before? I have.

    I know what Larry is aiming for; rational, fact based, analysis and criticism. Hate does not provide; rational, fact based, criticism. It is an emotion, thats all. It is entirely selfish and irrational. One can hold contempt without being hateful.

    I too will stand with Larry in the coming years to challenge Obama on his decisions, to share news of his actions, and demand accountability. I am growing immune to the irrational blather of those who place hate as some sort of principle.

    And despite the projected expectations of the leaderless among us, Larry didn’t tell anyone to think or feel anything. He called for reasoned and civil comments so people can understand the pain that runs beneath the hatred.

    It is ironic that those who proclaim their hatred now mocked the Obama supporters who turned on Larry last year when he spoke up for Clinton and criticized Obama. Remember those days? “Where’s the Larry I knew?” they yelped when he didn’t read their script.

    “Farewell my fair weather friend…”
    Johnny Rotten, the former singer for the Sex Pistols, sang in his group, Public Image Limited.

    If you so “know” larry johnson, then how is it that the mercurial nature of the comments reflects that you don’t know him at all.

    I don’t even want to say I know Larry well, but I can say, after we were damaged by Hurricane Ike, Larry was sure to wish us well before and check in afterwards. When I’ve dealt with him, he’s been a fair player each time. And I will stand with him no matter what fire you guys throw at him. Same with Susan.

    I want George Bush, Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld in prison for KNOWN crimes, not just believed ones, and yet, I don’t harbor hatred for them. I got scolded today for not saying I hate them, and that person who I love just couldn’t change it. In the end they had to realize that we just don’t agree.

    Good luck to those of you who have a different opinion than Larry. But insulting those who are different than you with hyperbole ridden comments like, “oh yeah lets just sing Kumbaya” really does more to discredit your own appearance than it suddenly makes me break out a guitar and sing that tune. It is your projection, not mine.

    I will learn to forgive your hostilities, not for your sake, but for my own sanity.

    Thank you Larry for showing principle and backbone.

  • WildChild

    Then we shouldn’t be hearing about the heartwarming story of their new puppy, should we ukie?

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    I voted for McCain and Palin because I love my country. Can’t say the same for you. Oh, yeah, you’re not American???

  • JulieD

    Sometime-CIA-Defender –

    Great post, Lar. Right on the head, his kids can’t be actors, but we must hold him to account.

    His kids are actors. Remember the convention when the little darling told her dipshit Dad what city he was in?

    How about the painful People interview when the mission was, “Show that Mommy and Daddy don’t have a marriage of convenience”?!

    Yuck! BO shamelessly used the kiddies’ acting talents.

  • fif

    No, they didn’t. They criticized his record and his lies. That was truth. His attacks were character assassinations and fabrications about their policies and records.

  • oowawa

    I like your analogy Jackarooty, because it suggests other questions:

    I have always felt that Obama wanted to become President not be President, not unlike some women I know who wanted to get married but not be married

    Why do some women want to get married, but do not want to be married? Could it be that while “getting married” the future bride is the center of attention, and is showered with gifts, but is not expected to actually fulfill the promise of being a wife until later? Could it be because the game of courtship culminates once the marriage is fulfilled, and with the victory, the really fun part is over, once one’s desirability has been proven in front of LOTS of witnesses?

    And how many witnesses are invited to the wedding tomorrow? Lots and lots and lots, right? Real big expensive wedding, for sure!

  • BlueTopaz

    Well put, ITA.

  • truthtelling007

    and his comments might not be directed at you. In fact I’m sure I can go so far as to say, they aren’t directed at you. Criticize away! That is what he stated at the top. As they say, if the shoe fits. And it doesn’t look like that shoe fits you.

    I’m disgusted with the Democrat party as a whole in their extravagant spending. I didn’t cease that by holding my center. What good would that do?

    Keep up the vigilant criticism. Some folks just won’t come to the realization that they are acting irrational. That doesn’t make criticism rational. An idiot can criticize. It isn’t hard to do.

    But if you want that criticism to be material or actual, then you have to convince people that your criticism has merit and isn’t based on beliefs and gut feelings, but on thoughtful and considered views. There is a reason that Logical Fallacies are called just that…because they are fallacious no matter how common.

    Good luck.

  • http://firefox AnnieCollier

    I believe this one’s name is Axelrod. Then there’s Soros. I think either one might add up to a Cheney…and they’ll stay hidden just like Dick did.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Yes there is the United States of America. And my family fought for this country. Did yours? Well, there’s the matter of the Constitution of the United States of America that Obama is pissing on by refusing to show his documentation. We don’t care if he is of any race, color, creed, religion, etc. We want the Constitution upheld. I personally love Arnold. But I wouldn’t destroy my country so that he could be POTUS. You people are really disgraceful. You twist things because you are paid to discredit people. What a shame that in your big day of victory that you are here collecting such a meager little paycheck. Go drink some Vodka infused Kool-Aid and stop the lies.

  • Cas Sammanasu

    I agree with Larry that we should all wish Obama well for a successful presidency, for the sake of our country.

    We do not want to harbor hatred because of past events especially during the last primary election. However, I think that all of us here will become meaningless and even useless if we do not do anything to prevent what happenned in the last primary election from ever happening again.

    So, while we might want to forgive the mistkes of the past, could we still be focused on doing all our best to prevent them in the future? I hope that Larry and other readers will agree. Thanks!

  • Diane

    When you create a site of hate, you reap it in the end. Just thought I’d check in here and see what was going on and no surprise here. So much delusional thinking going on. Nevermind attacking me for saying this, I’m not coming back here so it won’t bother me.
    I know susan and I have read Larry for many years now on other sites and before this sector broke off and I’m sad to see this going on.
    Just talked to a staunch Rep. today and she said they are very hopeful about O and are giving him a chance. How about you folks, no, I thought not.
    Best to you all and I look forward to the day when you shed the mantle of hate.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    There’s something really deranged about a BOT like you UBM…It’s your big week and all you want to do is bother people who have broken hearts and spirits because of what was done to this country and the fraud they are living with? Why don’t you go to the Kos, or HuffPo and rage on about how you conned America but good? Really, why are you here?

    PS. Has nothing to do with Larry Sinclair, Bot, go find the real DC. Like I said, you sickos come here and attempt to discredit people with NOTHING to back it up. You can’t prove anything other than what I said, can you?

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com SUGAR

    Oh wow. I haven’t been posting here regularly, but I surely wasn’t expecting to see this post and I’m shocked. I understand that we are in effect at a crossroads and many people will decide to take one path or another. To “give Obama a chance” or to “never forget the travesty that occurred” during the primary and general election season. I choose the latter and it’s not even about Hillary anymore for me. It’s about the absolute usurping of democracy. The lies. The false accusations of racism against any and every person who dared question him. The crooks and liars that he is associated with. REmember, lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. I have a hard fugging time believing htat in all of his years in state politics, Illinois/Chicago no less, Obama came out clean. The Rezko situation alone tells us the truth about that. Hillary’s decision to get on board this train of corruption only dampens my support for her too because does this mean she was only ever out for her self? I guess the sad reality is, all politicians probably are and we are only the fools who support them and give them power.

    I’m afraid for this country because it seems that with each election, things get more and more corrupt and though I don’t have children, if I did I would tell them that what has happened in this election and the one in 2000 is NOTHING to look up to and it is never okay to give such a crook “a chance”. I don’t wish any physical harm on him and I do hope that the country is spared too much harm, but believe this. Nothing good will come from this. Nothing.

  • wodiej

    better get on over to your Kool Aid party

  • Ferd berfle

    What the millenials don’t want to understand is that the boomers are a far more rich in numbers and resources generation than they are. They don’t want to recognize that we boomers reincarnated – if you will – to do a job. That job is to not conform to the social morays of the times.

    Indeed, Buzz. Social mores, especially those of today, haven’t been thought through at all. If my idol (or Representative, or Professor)says it, it must be true does not constitute an examination of one’s life any more than the old “if it feels good, do it” mantra does. Nonconformity, imo, is the examination of one’s life with a subsequent reaction in accordance with that examination. It is unique and therefore is not able to conform. It destroys group-think and lays waste to cultism. It is the individual above the group (or the herd).

    Socrates was indeed spot on: The unexamined life is not worth living.

  • KintheNorthwest

    This is what scares me.
    Obama might only be a representative of the US, but he can destroy the US in seconds. Already people around the world are laughing at how naive we are.
    Yes God help us if Obama gets near anything that could be destructive.

  • Katmoon

    Truth, I also think much of the sarcasm here is necessary for others sanity, which is not hatred. I do not know Larry, but I have experienced his sense of fair play, and that is why I am here. I like to think perhaps Mr. Johnson is a good poker player, I am imagining this considering his career; therefore, perhaps as he encourages venting, we are reminded it is not a substitute for action we should be responsible for, from ourselves. I know I may be repeating myself, my blogging is my way to vent, but I also take an active role in participating in actions, such as volunteering on politically related works, so as to put reality to my words. In regards to the poker player mentioned above, why would anyone rely on only their words, unless they carry such a voice they will actually create action from the words. My interpretation of this article is to not be so consumed with the past that we are blind to what effect we can have on our future. Be pissed, intelligently, be vigilant in how much respect you hand out and credit you give, and if you are angry, shout from the window, that you are not going to take it anymore, and also, see to it you work towards that oath. Seek to be involved, never to be undermined by your own party again. I could be off on this interpretation, but Larry has integrity. Even those who are angry and surprised know this, there is just such a problem with betrayal from this last campaign cycle, people are stuck in their anger; Larry is giving them a much needed nudge, to consider. He is not saying roll over and expose your belly.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    True. All of these words would describe Obama.

    LOL!

  • stodgie

    ubm, you are a disgusting moron! what you are in reality is a self hater! that’s exactly what you are. i amost feel sorry for you. prancing around with hate as your only companion.

  • wodiej

    I agree…we reap what we sow. Its not about giving someone a chance…that is hopey changey bullshit to deflect the attention of people off the sordid shit Obama has been knee deep in all of his life. That is why he keeps comparing himself to JFK, MLK, Abe Lincoln and anyone else he can because he doesn’t want people to look at who he really is.

    I don’t hate him, but God will judge him like all people. I think there are enough people who love this country to not allow Obama to drown it with his crazy ass ideas. I don’t care how many goose stepping Obots he hires.

  • susaninbosque

    Very well said, Larry and it was needed. Thank you. I continue to be impressed by your wonderful sense of reality and hopefulness and I more than appreciate your broad fine experience and the time and energy your spend to share that with us.

    All of us should remember – even when we want to be angry – Hillary’s position that regret is the most wasted emotion possible and that she won’t abide it. Best we all take her advice.

    Again, thank you, Susan

  • Angel

    I think you’re wrong about there being racists who post to this board. The only ones who ever post anything akin to racism are 0bama supporters as they respond to dissenting posts about 0bama in typical fashion (as you’ve done) that the only reason they disagree or disapprove of him is because they must be racist.

    Good God, isn’t there enough documented evidence that’s been shown here, on audio, video, and in multiple news sources both offline and online in his own words and actions that would challenge even the most common sense-challenged person that there’s good reason to question his motives and his actions?

    How many lies and blatant flip-flops does he need to tell to your face before you believe that ‘wow, he really did lie about this..and that, yeah he lied about that too…and that one thing…and that other one too?’ before people stop excusing it? It’s baffling to me.

    Why does it seem that it’s unpatriotic or un-American to now hold an elected official accountable for their words and their deeds just because that elected official’s name is Barack 0bama? Don’t you believe one of the most precious things about our democracy is that We the People have the right to hold our elected officials accountable for their actions? Seriously, why does he get a pass from this?

  • JulieD

    WildChild/America RIP –

    If I hear one more idiotic story about a proposed pet…it makes me want to bark – I mean barf!

    (And they’ll be waiting quite a while for a Portuguese water puppy to wander into a shelter.)

  • Ferd berfle

    You don’t read very well, do you? The conversations her on this thread have generally been civil, thoughtful, and reasoned. It is you bots that drag down the discourse and collective IQ of any site you haunt with your unnecessarily provocative ad hominems, hasty generalisations, and your endless regurgitation of party lines. Yours wasn’t even qualifiable as a piss-poor post. It was more akin to toxic waste.

    Buh-bye now, snookums.

  • KintheNorthwest

    I hope you are right…for many countries have fallend with such thoughts on the lips of their citizens.

  • http://firefox AnnieCollier

    Yes, basil. I don’t have selective memory either when it comes to the “New Democrats” and the fraud they have perpetuated on us. It’s just hard to take when we thought there was such a good chance to get rid of the last one and replace our POTUS with an honorable person. I feel now that I was really naive about what the political parties are about.

  • oowawa

    Best to you all and I look forward to the day when you shed the mantle of hate

    Buh-Bye, Diane. Too bad you left so soon. i was going to suggest that I would shed my mantle if you would shed yours. Maybe next time.

  • Snickers

    IndyBoomer,
    I mourn with you and feel the same.

  • Retired

    I don’t hate the President-elect, indeed, I don’t hate anyone. I sincerely hope that as President, Barrack Obama is successful in bringing us peace and economic well-being.

    However, I will not be cowed by anyone in espressing my opinion of this President’s policies and choices. If I agree with him, I will say so. If I do not agree with him, similarly, I will dissent. I hope that such dissention is taken for what it is–sincere disagreement. To do otherwise dimishes our democracy.

    For those who hate, not just Barrack Obama, but anyone, I hope that you can someday come to the realization that hate does not produce solutions. Rather, my experience has been that it often blinds one to the true nature of a problem, thus getting in the way of the best solutions.

    I will be watching our new President very carefully, if for no other reason than that he is new and untested. I will cheer his successes and I will mourn his failures, because both affect us as Americans. And I will pray that not only is he granted the wisdom to govern wisely, but the courage to chose wisdom over political expedience.

  • scorbs

    Sane, healthy response, Larry … thank you.

    I’m hopeful myself, not as wildly exuberant as Obama people, but I do like the people coming into power. It makes me relax in ways I never felt the last eight years.

    I like the concept of “smart power,” which Sen. Clinton understands. I find it all very hopeful, though without the silliness of some of Obama’s supporters. I’m just fairly certain Obama’s far smarter than Bush, and that’s promising.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    I saw a pic of Obama posters being burned in the middle east. Sorry, I can’t remember more details other than it was this past week.

    I think that’s the real picture of world sentiment about Obama and the US.
    Let Hollywood have tomorrow. The rest of us will be watching other things.

  • Katmoon

    Many people were harmed in this election, at their very core, as this was not foreseeable, the racism slap; and the traitors of the DNC. It is justifiable anger, and we must never forget. Yet I think Larry is not suggesting anyone to be a sudden sycophant for O, more pay attention and do not let the anger have your day.

    I guess the sad reality is, all politicians probably are and we are only the fools who support them and give them power.

    I really like this quote from you Sugar, it says so much, and I feel the fool myself, at times for support I have given. Whether or not this helps, remember these are temporary figures in place, in four years there are more who will want to be holding these positions, if we stay in anger, we cannot be clear to that future, and we are less able to fight the good fight for the next four years, by staying on top of things. I believe sometimes in forgiveness, but I never have acquired the ability to forget. I will never and I will work to be intelligently angry, without sacrifice to my ability to work for my country, parties be damned.

  • Ferd berfle

    There are a great many of us who are still sore about this and are with you Sugar. I will neither forgive nor forget. I will, however, become even more politically active, taking either or both parties to task as the occassion warrants it.

    To the former Democratic now Obamacratic party, I say, “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me”.

  • Beener

    I think the problem that the followers of No Quarter have is that they themselves have put Obama on a pedstal or think that everyone else is putting him on a pedastal. They then critized him for being on a pedastal or for being the “One” or as you say a “deity” or the messiah. I think very few Americans or even the people that voted for Obama have put him on a pedastal or think he is the “One”. Nobody thinks Obama is going to solve all the problems and nobody thinks that he will not be like a lot of other politicans. Most however think he will be a hell of a lot better than what we just had for the last 8 years. I think your readers are so angry because somehow they think that everyone thinks he is the “One” when that is probably pretty far from the truth. I think that even if you ask your average black person you will find that although they are encourage that Obama was elected, they do no think he will change much over night or make everything better or is the messiah. I think most people are more realists then No Quarter readers given American credit for.

    No Quarter followers themselves have built this the “One” myth or they believe that Obama is viewed by his voters as being some kind of saviour. It suits them well to think this, as it make it easier for them to critized Obama. I believe this is the fundamental flaw of No Quarter and it contributors.

    And Larry if that is all you got or nervous about (school records), then that is very small. By the way do you know what McCain’s or Hillary’s school grades looked like? In fact, have you seen the transcript of any politicians? Who cares!

    And your concern about his so called associations with Bill Ayers, Louis Farrakhan, Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Rashid Khalidi and Reverend Pfleger are complete BS. It remains dubious at best about how extensive his associations were with some of these guys and frankly, some of these guys are respectable and having an association with them might actually be a positive thing. When Obama knew Ayers he was not a radical, but a respected school educator, Wright is respectable, you may disagree with his point of view, but who are you to judge, and Rashid Khalidi is a very respected middle east scholar and someone that more of us should listen to.

    And I serious doubt Obama is as you say a closet socialist. Where is there absolutely any proof of this. He seems as American to me as apple pie and not some kind of radical. There is absolutely no proof that Obama is any kind of radical. It should be no surprise that he is trying to take the country right down the center, although I would say more like left of center.

    Great critize the guy on the policy you disagree with, but the people on this site always seems to get personal. Getting personal to me means you really have no arguments, as personal is almost always a fall back position. Just like when your readers are quick to throw insults whenever someone has a different view, assuming that your site monitor has not cut them off the site first. Personal insults are for simple minded people.

  • scorbs

    And this is off-topic, but as far as Caroline Kennedy goes, I am not unsupportive of her bid. She’s done some good things in New York, some of which have impacted me directly, and I will not forget that.

  • truthtelling007

    “don’t act surprised when all that remains here are the loons and racists.”

    Sorry Mort, but you swathed a group of people as the same, and this makes you no different than those you think of as “loons”.

    A person can question these aspects and not be racist. If you really have any interest in ending racism, you can’t water down the meaning by spewing it each time someone speaks.

    And sorry, but I’m no racist. I could care less if you think people are racist, because I don’t fall asleep with you nightly or face you in my mirror in the morning.

    I think the comments here reflect that Larry was asking good questions that should be asked of anyone running for office. And just because some have gone off the deep end doesn’t mean that all or even a majority have.

    I don’t change my inner compass because you jump on my radar or because these other zealots jump on my radar.

    Nor did Larry Johnson EVER push “Obama isn’t a citizen”. He asked the question and people commented. He asked a legitimate question and because of the coy, dismissive responses, it gained traction. Clearly if you read above, Larry made it clear where he stands about “citizen” and yet others here don’t care to hear him have decided they’ll stick to their guns and fire at will.

    And you too have engaged in hyperbole about the “whitey tape”. Repeatedly people attacked Larry as if he said he had such a tape. He clearly stated from beginning to end that he was being told this would be used by the GOP to attack and he told you. Well sorry to bust youf bubble but he isn’t the only one I heard this from, and even more so, the person that told me about the possibility of having such a tape was a worried Democrat.

    I don’t think Larry is surprised that zealots showed up, but I’m also not surprised at the reactions of zealots from either side. All of it is personal projection onto Larry of the expectations you guys can’t fulfill in your own selves.

    There are literally hundreds of blogs out there and yet…this one thrived and grew. And sorry but we aren’t all of the same ilk. I know this for a fact as first hand witness.

    I completely disagree that this site is “just a cesspool of hatred” and I will not resign it to such category. Perhaps you should consider a more objective view that the internet is a cesspool that people express their deepest most angers and fears in ways they never did before.

    I see your spite in every word, and yet here you are…are you a cesspool member? After all you’re here. Or are you not a “loon” or “racist”?

    Are you the moral superior to others? And if so…what do you base that on?

  • Ferd berfle

    Nothing personal, troll. As I have said many times, I do not hate That One. I have only said he is three things:

    Unqualified
    Unfit
    Dangerous

    You always take comments out of context or make them up out of whole cloth. Take your selective Reader’s Digest version of what is actually said on this blog and leave via the nearest exit. If the door hits you on the way out, too bad.

  • Snickers

    I don’t think That One is this country – and if he showed his real birth certificate today or adoption certificate, showing he was unqualified under the Constitution to be POTUS, then he simply steps aside and Credit Card Joe takes over. I doubt that this will happen, but that’s the change I hope for.

  • Ferd berfle

    That’s what the Califronians thought about Arnold, too. I see they’re not faring too well.

    Silly bots.

  • truthtelling007

    Here here!

    This …well, you took the words right out of my..finger tips.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    Good points.

    I don’t think it’s about loving or hating Obama. It is about being aware and vigilant to make sure another Obama doesn’t happen.

    To stick your fingers in your ears and hum a happy song when it comes to reality and the criticism of Obama is counterproductive.

    Obama has come to represent all things offensive in a politician. Corruption, lies, pandering, money “laundering”, the misogyny, the divisive attitudes towards America, the finger, the 99…but a bitch ain’t one of ‘em attitude, and the blatant stealing of the primary election are not to be forgiven or forgotten. Those are the things that will follow Obama around and America doesn’t need to condone those things.

    Action will beget reaction. The reaction to Obama has already begun. He brought it upon himself.

  • Ferd berfle

    My only solace is that Hillary and other Clintonistas are doing nanny duty, but it’s a sad day after MLK’s holiday that because of the color of Barack Obama’s skin so many did not dare judge the content of his character.

    Yours is a beautiful summation. Thank you, Catherine.

  • truthtelling007

    “To deliberately sabotage? Is that like asking questions? ”

    That isn’t what Jan said. And if you wish to conflate the two, then just be aware that it was you who conflated them.

    Jan did not, nor did others, including Larry ever say, ‘asking questions’ is sabotage. But there are comments here that have said they will fight Obama no matter what. And in stating it in those absolute terms, they aren’t dealing with asking questions but have admitted that even if he makes a good decision it won’t be tolerated. This is the result of zealotry and fanaticism.

  • BlueTopaz

    Some of us saw how Taylor Marsh turned and were (are?) concerned that LJ was following the same piper. We are afraid that the few sanctuaries we have left are giving in. The tone of his articles seemed eerily familiar, and his response to HoB’s post was very obotty.

  • sam

    Where’s the Michelle Obama “whitey” tape?

  • cathnealon

    Germany came back after Hitler and 20 million dead–we will come back after BO the only question being what price we will have paid? And one more aside; since it’s difficult to listen to him making some Favreauvian speech I only caught one phrase from a speech over the train stop weekend and it struck a chord because I’m a Faulkner fan, he plagiarized this phrase right out of a speech Faulkner gave, (I believe his Nobel speech for literature)in which he said that ‘man will not only endure he will prevail.’ Well, Bo used that with no reference to Faulkner and I believe no one said anything. He and his writers are plagiarists and I believe that the reason his school records are not being released is because he was probably disciplined for plagiarism or something along those lines. In any case, it’s Larry’s site and he can set the tone and the parameters, and I for one will respect that.

  • susaninbosque

    I don’t usually comment twice but I can’t agree with Larry more. We must remember that we are in the first global recession/depression ever recorded in modern times. We all must watch very closely but with the strongest posslbe optomism and personal hard work in our own lives or much may disappear from your landscape and you will – at that point – be able to blame Obama for an economy that has abandoned us all. Consider that we are still lucky that it is possible to buy two vacuum cleaners from Sears cause they are still being made and sitting on the shelves in a store that is still open. You are obliged – unless you are self-destructive and extraordinarily short sighted – to INTEND that all goes well for our country and the planet. Remember that the day before the inauguration there were vacuum cleaners on shelves. There may be a point when there are none. This would not be a catastrophy but no food on shelves wouuld be. Wake up, please. We need, as a country, your positive orientation. Think on it.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    AndrewP – Great post.

    If God loves America, then the O “Presidency” will indeed be a very short one. I don’t believe that this country will ever fall prey to this evil. It’s just a matter of time with Obama. He always does himself in.

  • BlueTopaz

    ROFLMAO!

  • Ferd berfle

    ubm, you are a disgusting moron! what you are in reality is a self hater! that’s exactly what you are. i amost feel sorry for you. prancing around with hate as your only companion.

    Well, stodgie, he does have his Obie. And when doing battle, his microsope.

  • CG

    Thank you LJ and Susan for giving NQ readers a broad range of options from which to learn and engage in healthy discourse as we move forward past the inauguration. We are fortunate to have a community that is not satisfied with the traditional media outlets as a source for information, which as we have seen does not represent the interests of all our citizens. Larry and Susan have seen to it that this site will be a terrific, well-rounded, place to stay by inviting experts, and great writers and radio hosts, of nearly every persuasion to share, and it seems like they have all the bases covered to keep a great conversation going. We can trust that LJ, Susan, and the great writers and radio hosts will keep us thinking, keep us laughing, keep us talking, keep us caring, and keep our president accountable.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    oowawa…LMAO

  • gonzotx

    Gee Larry,
    No Whitey tape and now the Fraud is not so bad. Guess you need to keep the blog alive somehow. Taylor Marsh ring a bell? She’s not doing so well.

    Well, it was good when it was good. But this looks like it is going to be very bad. Anti-Semitic posts and now the kool-aid.

    Adiós …

  • Ferd berfle

    Well, stodgie, he does have his Obie. And when doing battle, his microsope.

    Obie should read Peabody, an award and a fitting adjective, to boot.

  • EWard

    Larry

    I use to enjoy watching the news. However, you cannot turn on the TV without pundits slobbering or gibbering over BO. I feel as if I’m a prisoner in my own country because the press functions as his propaganda machine. It seems half the country appears hypnotized. How do the actions of the press protect our rights as informed citizens with this type of coverage?

    On one hand, Obama states that we are facing the gravest economic crisis since the depression. Yet, the Fourth Estate remains silent about his extravagant spending sprees in these tough economic times. People are losing their jobs, health care, and homes. There is a disconnect between Obama’s words and actions.

    Giving BO a chance – the 2008 campaign served as a template how Obama operates outside political norms…caucus fraud, buying off super delegates, illegal campaign donations, racism charges against anyone opposing him, and the abusive power of the press.

    If you look at it from Obama’s viewpoint, why should he conform to honest and ethical standards, when he has achieved his goals through corruption?

  • JulieD

    UKforDems –

    Did you even bother to read LJ’s post? He is the one who brought up the kiddies.

    BO has shamelessly used them as props, actors and advertising.

    Lucky for you that you don’t receive BO/BS media across the pond. We’re knee deep in the crap here.

  • wodiej

    got brains? I didn’t think so…by the way, where’e Obama’s real birth certificate?

  • Ferd berfle

    And I will continue to fight against this so called “Presidency” until they pry all of my freedoms and cash out of my cold, dead hands.

    They can have MY free speech when they pry it off my cold, dead lips. I served my country and reserve the right to criticize any politician I so desire, including an unqualified AA. If the bots or powers that be don’t like it, too bad for them. It is my right. And they have the right to attend to their own knitting.

  • Ani

    Wow, Sara, me too.

    Very well stated, apishapa.

    Thanks so much for your comment.

  • fif

    lol! Transparency–you mean like the second bail out Obama just forced through, threatening a veto because Congress WANTED accountability built into it? Or the whole Blago mess that they lied about? Or his new position that he will keep Bush’s expanded executive powers, including variations on the definition of torture–that kind of transparency? But one thing I’ll agree with–we won’t forget Bush’s lies. But Barry will: “No one is above the law…but we should move forward.” HE is not holding Bush accountable, and WE will not forget HIS lies.

  • wodiej

    oh really, what has she done that is relevant to her being selected as a Senator for New York?

  • fif

    He cites the pages in the actual report!

  • Jan

    And miss a specious, embittered “talent” like you?

    People read Larry’s blog because he offers smart, honest analysis, a cut above the rest.

    Unlike others, who simply can’t recognize truth to literally save.their.lives.

    And Larry is an interesting writer, too.

  • wodiej

    oh geez..good one…LMAO 2….

  • http://firefox AnnieCollier

    Oh, my Dear, I couldn’t have said it better. I have always believed he delves in to all of the comparisons of himself to “all of the above” because he has no clue to his own identity. Same for his wife who has no real accomplishments of her own with which to build accomplishment and character.

  • Ferd berfle

    Up your backside where it will remain for all eternity. Any more questions, drip?

  • don

    “…appears to be a decent person with generally good intentions.”

    I certainly cannot buy the “decent person” and really am not sure about the “good intentions” part either. I suppose outright lieing and cheating to achieve one’s goal is becoming acceptable but I have never been one to buy into “the end justifying the means.” Amazing to me that we drug test athletes to make sure they have adhered to rules in achieving their goals but we can’t even get our SCOTUS to either clarify what a “natural born citizen” is or see if, as of tomorrow, our Usurper In Charge is eligible to be in that position.

    I generally do not watch the inaugurations or state of the union speeches as feel they are for the most part just “fluff”, so will not be watching tomorrow and sense I gave up on the MSM last February I will have to read about it on the internet.

    I do find it upsetting that the Usurper likes to compare himself to Honest Abe and few seem to point out that Abe was honest and the Usurper is not.

    “Decent person”; not hardly!

  • BlueTopaz

    Democracy died in 2008.

    Tomorrow is the funeral. The only funeral BO can be bothered to attend recently.

  • don

    Sorry, my bad — sense should be since

  • somerset

    In order for obama to be president, two women lost. No woman has ever been president or vice president of the USA. There are men of color running countries all over the world and have been since humans began…how many women lead countries? I will die before a woman is ever U.S. president.

  • fif

    OF COURSE the Republicans are hopeful–he’s adopting a lot of their policies!

  • Katmoon

    Buzz,

    you say it well, and much more concise than I was working at, thank you.

    Action will beget reaction. The reaction to Obama has already begun. He brought it upon himself.

    If we live in anger we lose some of that vision needed for the future; one that holds these people, we “elect”. We need to get our election house in order, we need to hold those accountable who deliberately under-minded one of their own; we do have senatorial and the full house elections coming up in two years. We can remain angry, as long as we don’t let apathy take over, we must remain active and watchful. We create the change, not those we appoint to carry it out.

  • Ferd berfle

    Actually democracy went to its death bed in November 2000. It languished there until this last election, where it was put on around-the-clock life support, a lot of it provided by blogs such as this one.

  • apishapa

    I left the Democratic Party which Ihave supported for 35 years because of the cheating and double dealing on behalf of Barack Obama by party leaders. I left behind a huge part of my life and in essence my identity when I did so. It was truly heart breaking for me to leave behind the party I’ve supported all of my adult life, but that party no longer represents the ideals I was raised to believe in.
    I resent the hell out of that and I’m not likely to forgive Obama for stealing my party and turning it into a joke. Obama lied and cheated his way into the Presidency and I do not forgive him for it. He has not changed his stripes in a few weeks.

    I no longer feel obligated to support someone solely because of the party they belong to. I am finally free to judge on character and the ideals each candidate represents. So, I guess it’s not all bad to lose that part of myself.

    I do not believe Barack Obama has changed his stripes in a few weeks since the election. He will still lie and switch his path depending on which way the wind blows. He is as weak in character as he ever was.

    Obma has already started using exactly the samme language as GWB and cousin Dick. We’re going to cut “entitlements”. We’re going to have to pare back on all that campaign rhetoric.Promises are made to be broken, right? Torture isn’t so bad. No reason to get in a rush about leaving Iraq. Stem cells will be left for COngress to deal with. He has no position on that except he is sending a “powerful message” of some kind. Not a word about recinding Bush’s attack on birth control. Gay guy can give a little sermon, but not on teevee.

    We will cut taxes for the rich and fork over all kinds of moolah to the banks. We will buy our way out of this recession on the backs of the poor, the senior citizens and the children. Same old shit. Obama is a black Bush.

    I do hope I’m wrong about Obama, but I’m not impressed so far. I like a few of his appointees, but others are just plain scary.

  • Jan

    I’m a Faulkner fan, he plagiarized this phrase right out of a speech Faulkner gave, (I believe his Nobel speech for literature)in which he said that ‘man will not only endure he will prevail.’ Well, Bo used that with no reference to Faulkner and I believe no one said anything. He and his writers are plagiarists and I believe

    Perhaps it was his “Kennedy” moment, Fevreau can’t always seem to get it right. Despite the cardboard issue, the guy is simply untalented, his writing and thinking much like the cardboard he molests in a drunken stupor — it only looks like thought.

    New times call for new ideas, call for new words, call for new solutions inspired by these new problems, yet we keep getting half baked crap from the dumbest group of PR people to ever hit Washington.

    Ah, Obama, and the age of shadows and google, obtuse pretenders not even REMOTELY self aware.

    Pentimento.

    That is not a compliment.

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    R.I.P., please answer my question. Why did you come to No Quarter spreading a ridiculous rumor originated by Larry Sinclair… without even revealing that it originated with Larry Sinclair?

    I call bullshit, and you say, “Show me the death certificate. You can’t, can you? Ha!”

    No wonder Larry Johnson is heartbroken by quality of the comments on this blog lately. Intelligent people want to weep when exposed to your kind of proud ignorance, R.I.P.

  • NetherLands

    Given the amount of traffic NQ sees/saw it’s a pity at least to some extend the idea rises that a certain ‘if you can’t beat them…’ mentality may have risen, esp. given the HRC SoS appointment.

    Personally I still hope my initial assessment of PEBO – just another slick ‘Golden Boy’ opportunistic politician – holds true (we’ve had eg Tony Blair and Gerhard Schröder in Europe and we’ve survived those) but the following (esp) still trouble me, esp. given the economic & soon-to-be international (Iran aot) crisis:

    1) the way the elective process was manipulated by ACORN and other voter fraud, illegal donations, screwy judges – without repurcussions so far

    Without an honest system bum pol’s can’t be thrown out. Luckily it seems to be a state-level problem.

    2) the utter fawning nature of the media (not only in the USA)

    Without honest reporting, citizens can’t be truly informed.

    3) ickier part I: the squashing of dissent
    I can’t forget eg the Truth Squads, the lawyer-threats and Obot ‘fast reaction teams’ against radio-shows that allowed critical journalists to appear – and now talks of the fairness doctrine and internet censorship.

    4)ickier part II: the Cult of Personality
    We’ve all seen the Sing for Change kids, the fawning celebrities, the seals and icons, the Obama Be Thy Name songs etc – and an Obama loving every minute of it, even though all his campaign advisers told him not to. Hitchens’ assessment (“megalomanical narcissist”) rings too true.

    5) ickier part III: past actions
    His social circle contains too many crooks and cooks to simply ignore. His Wright-connection springs to mind especially, 20-odd years is too long for simple expediency. And yes, I disagree with most of his politics – his support for FOCA (even McGovern opposes it) is eg too glaring.

    6) ickier part IV: the Permanent Campaign
    All of his elections antics are here to stay. If there were any doubts about this (like wether he’d follow Rahmbo’s draft), his Organising for America pressure group made this crystal clear.
    Celebs pledging servitude to Obama & encouraging others to do so too ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYGUnR0wiCw ) doesn’t help much to stem these concerns.

    All these factors point to the real possibility of something much worse. As a European I don’t fear Socialism as much as totalitarianism.

    Obama Bought The Presidency

  • Katmoon

    UBM, you are just plain horrible, and should be banned.

  • Angel

    U.K. – I agree that kids should be ‘off limits’. What a shame 0bama supporters think/thought differently about that when it came to the Palin children, isn’t it? Or are you in support of having a set of standards for one but not the other? It’s ok if you admit it – I’d rather that than to hear (yet another) blatant lie.

  • CG

    Agree with you Sugar, trust and respect your opinion, except that I think Hillary genuinely wants a chance to do something exceptional to change the world’s opinion of America, rather for the country than for herself, at least I choose to see it that way because of how many times she has been slapped down only to get back up and come at it from another approach. We need to hear your voice too.

  • Katmoon

    His comment was removed, sorry for the floating comment.

  • Jan

    I think very few Americans or even the people that voted for Obama have put him on a pedastal or think he is the “One

    Someone who obviously does not read the Washington Post.

    Do you really believe this crap you write?

    And sadly, I think some of Obama’s people do — it’s dangerous, best to keep your head clear.

    Canned soup thinking, and trolling, like Fevreau, these people are not capable of an original idea.

  • apishapa

    I did read somewhere (can’t remember where) today how extravagant and ostentatious this inauguration is and how out of character that is for Barack because he is usually so low key. I almost fell out of my chair.

    None of these idiots remember Berlin or even Denver.

  • fif

    Many of you support Hillary and believe she was done wrong. Okay. So if she can forgive Barack and if she can campaign for Barack and if she can agree to serve in his Administration then does it not follow that maybe, just maybe, she has accepted she got beat in a tough campaign and believes Barack will be able to do the job?

    She “got beat in a tough campaign?” I completely disagree with this interpretation. First, she did not “get beat.” I am not going to reiterate the many facts to the contrary here. Second, in my view, she is serving the country in the best way available to her. That does not mean she does not know what went down.

  • NYCgirl

    Yes, and the racebaiting continues. No doubt this is going to get even worse as the Obots become even drunker on political power.

    I am a non-white Hillary supporter, and I know plenty of white Hillary voters who were called “racist” at every turn just for supporting someone they thought was more qualified than Obama. I was not called “racist” myself, since I am not white — until last month. I was told by a black friend that I was “ignorant” for having supported Hillary over “a black candidate”. I was also informed that I am only interested in supporting “my” white candidates! This was ridiculous on its face since I am not white! But this is just one indication of how the racebaiting just won’t quit, even though “the black candidate” has won!

    No, I don’t see any reason to give Obama a “let’s wait and see what he does” pass. We’ve already seen it, and it’s not going to get any prettier.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    Of course Hillary knows what happened. Uhhh…everyone has pretty much seen the letter from Hillary’s attorney in DC regarding the caucus fraud. Hillary isn’t stupid. They DNC traashed her and she is doing what she has to do for her own career. I don’t like it, but it is what it is.

  • KintheNorthwest

    Carolinne Kennedy has been mostly busy being a wife and mother which is ok. IF she is really intent on being in the Senate I think she should get out a bit more like many of her cousins have.
    If Caroline is put into Hillary’s seat I feel that it would really show how Pay to Play really does work.

  • Ferd berfle

    Tighten the plastic chin straps on their beanies?

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    UKforDems isn’t the sharpest in the Bot Lot.

  • BlueTopaz

    Hell, I have to piss in a cup for a shitty paying job, and he doesn’t even have to show his BC to be president????? I’d rather show a piece of paper than humiliate myself in a cup. Show me the BC, BO!!

  • KintheNorthwest

    Most states now require you to show a BC and a photo ID prior to geting a driver’s license. In my state you have to have a photo id and a bc to get a driver’s license, along with your thumbprint.
    Guess since Obama is going to be President he doesnt need a driver’s license.

  • Jan

    I found the NQ discussion about Israel and Gaza very illuminating, shedding much information on the plight of the Palestinians, and Israel’s intent.

    Yours is about the tenth comment I’ve read today denigrating the blog contents, all appearing canned and planned, no surprises, here, at all.

    But then, it’s pattern — I did not support McCain, or Palin, choosing not to vote, hence, I wasn’t reading NQ, but it’s my impression this same lame brained troll game went on during those months, also.

    Not a whit of creative intellect in the trolls, none, at all.

  • apishapa

    You all have been talking to my first fiancee, haven’t you? I was fine with getting married until I figured out he thought we were going to live together. With his MOM, and I was supposed to quit college and stay home and clean the house! Then he started talking about how I had to give up television and go bowling. I did not understand where he got the idea I would go for that!

    I thought he would stay home and work; and me and the baby would race horses and he could come visit on weekends. I sure as hell had no intention of dropping out of college. The teevee thing was the final straw. I was admittedly a spoiled, stubborn little girl and so was he. I didn’t marry that one.

  • Ferd berfle

    LMAO.

    I personally think that some posts are arbitrarily trashed in order to keep the filtering rules enigmatic.

    filtering rules enigmatic-ROFL.

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    So, Jan, you would rather that R.I.P.’s horseshit stand unchallenged? You’d rather readers here believe that Obama lied about the date of his grandmother’s death?

  • http://www.georgianindex.net/Napoleon/coronation/coronation.html trixta

    Beener — you’re such a classic Obot arguing for difference when your ilk never tolerated it when it came to your Precious. Thanks for the entertainment.

    BTW, why are you here anyway? Shouldn’t you be out, like, celebrating with your fellow Bros-4-Hos comrades?

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    U – BM ROFLMAO…I answered you that it had nothing to do with Larry Sinclair and challenged you to prove me wrong. You can’t do anything other than spread more of your nasty ass lies. That’s all you do here though. I have always wondered why people like you don’t get banned. I assume it’s some kind of entertainment value for some. To me you’re just an example of why America is in the crapper. The quality of “Americans” sure isn’t what it should be. But, that explains the horrible act of treason being committed tomorrow. Good luck with that freak.

  • http://www.georgianindex.net/Napoleon/coronation/coronation.html trixta

    [i.e. "Bros b4 Hos"]

  • truthtelling007

    “I think the racist label caused a great deal of anger as well.”

    Agreed, but two things about that…1.) when it was overused and it didn’t apply, it only made the accusers look foolish and 2.) when it did and does apply, it is missed by the one engaging in it.

    There are some folks who are commenting about Obama in a way that could easily be perceived as racist. If that isn’t what they mean, it is up to them to word themselves in a way that doesn’t give that impression. Sexism is the same problem but regarding gender. 1.)when it was over used and it didn’t apply, it makes it harder to end sexism, and 2.) when it applied but was ignored by the ones engaged in it, it didn’t make it less sexist.

    It is my impression that people feel they’ve been called racist when the comment wasn’t even directed at them. If it doesn’t fit you, then it doesn’t fit.

    I’ve had someone call me racist before just because I looked different than they did and they weren’t getting what they wanted from me as a store owner. Because I clearly know it had nothing to do with the issue, I didn’t respond with an irrational “bu bu but, I’m not a racist!”

    And because I recognized that the lady I was speaking with probably experienced racism enough to be worn out, I was compassionate and able to get past my own needs to be protected and embraced her feelings, legitimate or not.

    I think this year was filled with racism and sexism across the board. I know Clinton wasn’t a racist, Ferraro wasn’t being racist, and Michael Pfegher wallows in racism. Without Racism, he’d have nothing to say! He is what is more properly called a “benevolent racist” because he has to thrive on it to be worth anything. He perpetuates the victim status in order to be important. This doesn’t mean he doesn’t do worthwhile deeds, but that he basks in the resentment and proclaims, “but I’m not like that!”

    Time to grow up America, you have big issues to deal with and need to get it together.

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    Okay, R.I.P., you lightbearer you. What’s your source for the information that Madelyn Dunham died on October 22, not November 3? Please tell the world, so that I can be proven wrong.

  • Ferd berfle

    bros-4-hos or bros-b4-hos-either way, it’s all about the sexism, Trixta

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    Thanks, Kat.

    I hope others will understand that Obama is an icon for all things corrupt.

  • Jan

    thought he would stay home and work; and me and the baby would race horses and he could come visit on weekends. I sure as hell had no intention of dropping out of college. The teevee thing was the final straw. I was admittedly a spoiled, stubborn little girl and so was he. I didn’t marry that one.

    I did.

    We moved to Vermont, where we had a lovely same sex marriage, but unfortunately, again, our politics coupled with his constant need to bowl interfered, and now I have to pay him alimony for the rest of his life.

    Last I heard, he had a plan to mind control the Internet, or something, a big venture capitalist with connections to Apple, Google and the NSA, interested.

    He always exaggerated, though.

  • Ferd berfle

    Guess since Obama is going to be President he doesnt need a driver’s license.

    Hopefully he won’t want to drive or that pesky BC will come up, yet again.

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    The pathetic part is… you think you’re witty.

  • obamastolemyboyfriend

    Thanks!

    I promise I’ll be good!

  • obamastolemyboyfriend

    And don’t worry. No one tortured me into drinking any kool aid fool aid. There’s still no Obama love in this gal!

  • Out In The Open White Woman

    He really is your achilles heel, ROFL! I know, I know your Peabody whispers to you every night, just what a smart and handsome fella you are!

  • http://firefox AnnieCollier

    Here’s one I love from Irving Berlin 1938

    “While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
    Let us swear allegiance to a land that’s free,
    Let us all be grateful for a land so fair,
    As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer. ”

    “God Bless America,
    Land that I love.
    Stand beside her, and guide her
    Thru the night with a light from above.
    From the mountains, to the prairies,
    To the oceans, white with foam
    God bless America, My home sweet home.”

    God bless America…now more than ever.

  • http://mcnorman.wordpress.com mcnorman

    I concur.

  • Ferd berfle

    This coming from a worn our crock of manure like you who makes misleading statements and thinks they’re funny. I have news for you troll–your high-school sophomoric sexual innuendo and marginally literate gobbledegook aren’t well liked here. So why don’t you and your Peabody get a hotel room and leave the adult conversations to those of us who are adults.

  • barry bums a ciggie

    Questioning someone’s legitimacy and qualification as it pertains to our constitution is racist? So, you think we are questioning BO based on his skin color? Hello!!!!!! He has had every chance to squelch that rumor by throwing that piece of paper out there to all the media but he didn’t. Why?

    If you’re gonna accuse the readers here of being racist, you better have something to back it up mortie. What I have seen here at NQ is that any time a racist remark is posted, the readers are on that person like a wet mop. So spare me the racist finger pointing. BOZO is already elected, can’t play that race card anymore to protect precious when things get tough. Who was it that said “They are going to try and scare you with my name…did I mention he’s black?”. That’s right, Bobo did.

  • http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

    Exactly — once Obama opened fire on Palin’s kids — I consider the 0 kids fair game.

  • BlueTopaz

    Hatred, like anger, is an energy. Maybe you’re looking at hatred as half empty (cancer). If you look at it as half full (energy, motivation) you won’t “hate” the word or emotion so much.

  • avwrobel

    Well put Mandelay. Larry, you haven’t researched the problem with Obambi’s being born in Kenya. IT IS A HUGE PROBLEM!! If he is allowed to continue with his unconstitutionallity problem and his birth certificate from Kenya finally comes out, then any foreign billionnaire can run for POTUS. What a mess! The founding fathers didn’t put the natural born requirement in the Constitution lightly. Also Larry, the ridiculous comment regarding his children, well, many others have shown the falacy of the thinking that if you love your children it means you have great character.
    As for re: Obama ‘What is he doing?’ you rhetorically ask. He’s not in POWER yet. We have to go by what he’s done so far, which isn’t pretty.

  • Ferd berfle

    And this place is a haven from the 24/7 non-stop Obama worship services being offered by practically every channel available, including the infomercial channels where you can get everything from Obama coins to Obama’s log cabin and manger scenes to Obama toilet paper, a 100-grit abomination if ever there was one. Irrespective of one’s political affiliation, this hype beyond understandable.

  • KintheNorthwest

    YOu did a great job of hitting all the points
    Thank you avwrobel

  • Cindy

    Jan— I finally agree with something you said (“the election was fixed”).
    When you ditch the over-the-top touchy-feely drugstore (or Ivy League?)psychology-speak, you actually sound like you have common sense, and that’s refreshing.

  • Donna Brazile

    Kobe Bryant’s kids think he’s great!

    John Edward’s kids think he’s great!

    Joey Buttafuoco’s kids thought he was great!

    Stop the lovefest!

  • Ferd berfle

    I concur. Hate can also be cathartic. Do you keep it all bottled up or let it go?

    Hate, like anger, is only negative if it is not moderated–just like anything else in life. For example, the bots have way too much faith in That One and it will be their undoing. In this case faith is just as detrimental as hate.

  • stodgie

    ferd, think about this. they have been going nonstop about the financial mess. much of what the media did made it 5 times worse. now the heavens part and obama steps out. they’ll fawn over him and talk about his brilliant plan. that type of hype will help improve the people’s dispostion and calm the fear. things will gradually get better at it always does. people will start buying again. most will never know they were snookered.

  • Ferd berfle

    For sure. That One and his crowd are gaming the system and the boobs are eating it up.

  • avwrobel

    Great point! Obots are gushing about MLK’s dream coming true, but they completely misread his words. If we went by ‘content of character’ Hillary would be inaugurated tomorrow.

  • stodgie

    jan you are entitled to your opinions. i’ll fight for your right to express it so kindly butt out of my right to express my views. and you can take your innuendo about personality disorders and go look in a mirror.

  • barry bums a ciggie

    LOL, love it!

    I hope Barky will meet my friend Karma in the near future. She’s a bitch.

  • MBC

    Experience matters, just ask the passengers of the USAirways flight that survived the controlled crash into the Hudson River.

    I don’t care if Barack Obama is blue, he is NOT experienced in anything but running underhanded if not downright dirty campaigns. At this point time, I would prefer someone, anyone, who actually had some experience in dealing with precarious situations.

    BTW, I don’t hate anyone. However, I detest injustice
    and people who lie. I hates genocide, starvation, child-abuse, and crimes against humanity.

  • stodgie

    hi! i’ll see you on the boardwalk “obamastolemyboyfriend”.

  • http://www.georgianindex.net/Napoleon/coronation/coronation.html trixta

    Past, present, and future — it’s all of a piece. Sometimes history has a tendency to repeat itself.

  • Roger

    I feel a lot like I did when W. was elected. He cheated to get there, and he can’t handle it. Somebody else got him there; he’s just someone the public will buy–a beauty contest. With W, I thought Daddy Bush would protect us, but he didn’t listen to Daddy. Chaney took over. The real problem in both cases, though–the thing that scares me to death is the media failures. They failed us miserably, and it’s incredibly, horribly, unconscionably disgusting and destructive now. I find it really hard to give this guy the benefit of the doubt considering the history of this campaign. Unfortunately you’re right, we really have no choice, but we have a lot to fix, and it’s so fundamental, we’ll need a new party to do it.

  • BlueTopaz

    “Farewell my fair weather friend…”
    Johnny Rotten, the former singer for the Sex Pistols

    He also sang ‘Anger is an energy’ Hatred stems from anger. I see nothing wrong with hating the hateful and dispicable as long as it’s used for motivation and not self-destruction.

  • stodgie

    nothing wrong with anger. christ used his anger to drive the money changers from the temple.

  • KintheNorthwest

    History does repeat itself and look what brought us to our knees the last time. Too much borrowing and too many egos….
    Could another global depression happen less than a century later—Sure could.
    Sorry but it takes more than peasants tightening their belts….
    It takes everyone from the top down tightening their belts.
    From what I have seen of the Obamas price tags on their living style (Hawaiian vacation, Michelles’s clothes, 1 million dollar acceptance speech backdrops, 3 million dollar Chicago win parties and ther list goes on and on and ) If anything the Obamas are living higher off the peasants than they ever did….
    Will government officials be the only ones fed and warm???? I am beginning to wonder.

  • obamastolemyboyfriend

    Yes. It does feel like being left out! I can’t tell you how much I looked forward to the return of a democrat in the White House again. I never imagined that I couldn’t get behind any democrat! I have wondered if it weren’t for hillary would I have gotten behind Obama and I just know I would have seen him as the liar he is. I can’t think too much about what is happening because this really should have been a dream come true and now is only a nightmare. 2008 literally gave me nightmares!

  • Roger

    As a matter of fact, one of the worst things about Obama is that he’s going to make W look better…

  • BlueTopaz

    “It’s not soaking in bitterness or hatred if it’s the truth.”

    ITA

    Sounds like Jan and others are using the “bitterness and guns” speak. Some of us are clinging to our principles because we couldn’t live with ourselves if we sold out. But that’s just some of us, the rest are just making excuses.

  • http://www.georgianindex.net/Napoleon/coronation/coronation.html trixta

    I agree, Ferd.

  • Kbentleyis

    Hate? No, I don’t think that it’s hate against one person, but mostly dislike for what we’ve lead our nation into. Our leaders, those we chose to keep us sound and safe, have raped our financial stability and working stabilities for the people, for their own greed.

    Whether we like to admit it or not, our country is in great peril. In the next few months we will see an upswing, then one of the greatest lows of all time. Is BHO capable of handling it? Most likely, not. It will be those he chose in his cabinet to try and get us through. Many gave BHO too much credit for little accomplishments.

    The Democrats will turn on one another and fail our government to extreme. They have displayed these actions just recently. It is time for all Americans to realize what is happening and plan accordingly.

  • BlueTopaz

    Did he really say that? No girlie dog? His hatred of females extends to dogs? FFS, I’ll bet he’s one of those guys that won’t get the male dog fixed, but has no qualms about gutting the bitch.

    Hmm, that should be his mantra, “Gut the bitch”.

  • BlueTopaz

    My sentiments exactly. BOycotting the whole farce!

  • Jackarooty

    Ferd,
    With all due respect it’s out there. It’s been out there since the buzz began within two weeks after the election. Joe and Hillary have been very close friends for years. Don’t you remember that “gaffey” comment he made during the GE about HRC being a better VP or POTUS than he?
    I’m trying to find the article I read but I did find a link to a George Stephanopoulos blog.

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2008/12/biden-counseled.html

  • Donovan Fraser

    Thanks Larry

  • BlueTopaz

    And both sides are trying to keep Sara Palin from running in 2012. What I like most about SP is that she fought corruption in her own party. One of a kind amoungst this crowd.

  • kgirl1028

    Actually i could deal with obama, if he didn’t have his minions. It’s most of his supporters i hate. And I don’t care what anyone says the man is devicive, and that dangerous. I also don’t like the fact that he wants to spend and create more social programs when we have no money. I don’t hate obama, i dislike the fact that we are in bad shape, and we have another cheating incompent hack taking over, at make or break time in our history. And as a realist i can only wish him as well, as i would wish a person jumping off of the empire state building well. Electing him was a very stupid move on the part of the electerate, so what ever happens they deserve.

    Trust me, if this were 2000 I would probably one of the bots running around calling you racist, but i’m not a fool. We sink or swim together. And when you are about to sink, you vote responsibly. Maybe if we had a Republican congress to counteract his none sense, i would feel better, but he doesnt. So all i have to say is buckle up, it’s going to be a turbulent 4 years, and we deserve every bruise.

  • Dutch

    Sorry Larry is drinking the Kool Aid. Taylor Marsh was hard to take – NQ is harder! Obama is working very hard at courting all the right people to influence detractors. George Will, Bill Kristol and now Larry Johson. Obama is a liar, a cheat, a user and abuser. He began his political career this way and it worked. He will continue to do the same simply because it works. You cannot come out of Chicago politics without getting dirty. Obama just hides it better. I am reminded of a story about Michelle Obama. She never watches a close game, but she stays until the end for a blowout! What a pair they are. As to his girls – even abused kids are loyal to their parents. You never know what goes on in any household. I know!

  • BlueTopaz

    (S)he’s an obot. All it’s comments in this thread lead me to this conclusion. I could be wrong, but not likely.

  • Janet Regehr

    Well, Larry, good luck putting that genie back in the bottle.

  • BlueTopaz

    Jan is an obot, suffers from brain malfunction.

  • BlueTopaz

    Like MEchelle, if it benefits them, they probably won’t mind.

  • robert

    It sounds as if someone is looking for a speech writing job at the White House, but it’s already taken.

  • libby

    Paid to discredit? You have to start reading more blogs than the propaganda you obviously have bought into.

    And yes, some of my family served in the military.

    And, the birth certificate stuff is just nonsense. And, it will go nowhere… because it IS nonsense.

    You are obviously in for a long, bitter 8 years.

  • UKforDems

    Comment by avwrobel | 2009-01-19 22:10:53

    Well put Mandelay. Larry, you haven’t researched the problem with Obambi’s being born in Kenya. IT IS A HUGE PROBLEM!! If he is allowed to continue with his unconstitutionallity problem and his birth certificate from Kenya finally comes out, then any foreign billionnaire can run for POTUS. What a mess! The founding fathers didn’t put the natural born requirement in the Constitution lightly. Also Larry, the ridiculous comment regarding his children, well, many others have shown the falacy of the thinking that if you love your children it means you have great character.
    As for re: Obama ‘What is he doing?’ you rhetorically ask. He’s not in POWER yet. We have to go by what he’s done so far, which isn’t pretty.

    This site was the first to allow the birther conspiracy theories. AFAIK it banned them when THEY failed to produce any real evidence of THEIR accusations.

  • UKforDems

    Comment by AMERICA R.I.P. | 2009-01-19 14:40:52

    I am beyond mourning. And I can’t manufacture feelings of hopey dopey no matter whose words I hear or read. This is my pain and I am suffering so much it’s almost unbearable. I am only glad that my father and grandfather are in the ground, not watching this horror story.

    As for the threats, maybe those were from Obots trying to skew the perception of this site. I didn’t see the threats so I can’t speak to them. But I know there is a long way between wishing the President bodily harm, which of COURSE I don’t and would NEVER say, and embracing him.

    They were from regulars. Those regulars had whipped each other up into frantic hatred and fear. They were stupid.

  • Hot Librarian

    But humour always beats earnestness. The bit about the daughters is very funny.

    My teenage daughter used to say she hated me & even wished i would die. But true at 5-11 years of age she did like me a bit .

    Everybody keep the funnies coming.

  • libby

    I hope he doesn’t do more than parking tickets and such. The birth certificate nonsense has been discredited. But, even so, the cases are weak.

    I do love that crazy Alan Keyes is now asking for a monetary settlement from the suit. Not that I didn’t see it coming. Talk about a sore loser. Never got over he lost to Obama in Illinois. He might say it’s about the constitution, but has also said some of the amendments to the constitution weren’t fair. (Keyes stated the view that U.S. Senators should be appointed by state legislatures and no longer elected by the people, which would in essence be a repeal of the 17th Amendment)-wikipedia has the cite.

    In other words, Keyes was against the constitution before he was for the constitution. He’s a phony. Through and through.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    So where’s the birth certificate?

    And where is the final rendering of opinion by the SCOTUS on the birth certificate issue?

    And why are they set to meet again AFTER the inauguration about the matter.

    Damages…damages…what are the damages?

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    What is WITH all this hopey dopey CRAP? Anger and rage are perfectly normal emotions for everyone to feel from time to time. The lefties didn’t get out of bed when George W. won. Guess only the insane far left is allowed to get outraged??? And they whined start to finish about the cheating, the exorbitant Inauguration, etc. So, they went on a search and destroy mission. Anything to win. Even if you have to throw the most qualified candidate in the gutter like some piece of garbage, with a knife in her back.

    The Dems could throw America in the toilet, violate every single voting law, commit insurmountable acts of fraud that no one could even keep track of because it was so rampant, etc. Now, the estimate is between 200 Million to 1/2 Billion for this SHAM Inauguration of a Fraud from Kenya. While people are losing their homes and can’t pay their bills. And some people here are pissing on those of us who are angry? HELL YEAH we’re angry. So were our forefathers when they started the Revolution. If the Dems think that they can destroy this country, they have another thing coming.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    I love when people comment on the Birth Certificate issue when all they’ve done is go to Fight the Smears and look at the forged copy. Or they read somewhere that SCOTUS dismissed “the” case. As in they don’t get that there are 31 lawsuits in this country, and WAY more to come. For anyone who discredits this issue, think again. The people who are filing these suits are not going to stop unless and until it is resolved. Those people would be called “patriots.” Look it up, Bots.

  • stodgie

    quite frankly we don’t need lectures on our country.

  • AMERICA R.I.P.

    And YOU, libby, don’t READ. That’s why people like you voted for Obama. You didn’t READ or do your homework. It’s YOU who is in for the sad year. You’ll be begging for your vote back. Oh well. Good luck with that.

    PS. If you had a brain, you would READ about all of the lawsuits before you make these inane statements about how much “nonsense” they are. Shame on you. So, you think it’s your right to support pissing on the Constitution? You don’t have to live in America.

  • stodgie

    uk, frankly i am sick and tired of your sermonizing. larry handled it. after that leave it alone!

  • BlueTopaz

    Your right. I should have said the Dems pull the plug on the life support in 2008.

  • BlueTopaz

    You’re

  • BlueTopaz

    Sure, there are racists on this site. BO pays them $7hr to post crap like yours here. Hmmmmmmm…

  • FranSC

    Susaninbosque, You say Hillary has said, “regret is the most wasted emotion possible and that she won’t abide it”. Interesting. I don’t miss much on Hillary, but I have not heard that particular quote. This advice could be well taken for many, but for political activists/animals like many of us who have participated at NQ, that advice may be a tall order.

    Politically speaking, Hillary has had to walk a tight rope since June 7th, 2008. She obviously could not continue to be critical of BO if she still wanted to participate in a big way or simply not be blamed for a defeat in Nov. She HAD to play the game. This strategy paid huge dividends for her. She will have to continue to walk the walk and talk the talk in order to accomplish all the great things she will no doubt accomplish.

    Even if Hillary was trying to keep her supporters toned down before the election, I guarantee you she wants us to stay completely loyal to her as indicated by her last letter to us that Susan posted here last night. I had the same letter on my email.

    If she wanted us to have no regrets that SHE is not being inaugurated as President today, for us to forget the primaries, and give BO our complete loyalty with the same attitude we have for her, she would not have emailed her supporters that letter, thanking us for the 150th time. She is keeping that door open for whatever reason. That letter did not mention Obama.

    I’m quite sure Bill Clinton feels the same way, as well as James Carval both of whom obviously agreed to signing letters sent to us on behalf of Obama. Politicians have huge egos and the Clintons are no exception. They will do what they have to do to ensure Hillary’s success. They will defer to “President Obama”. They know the protocol and they will execute it to a t. They understand diplomacy, are respectful even when they don’t like someone. They know exactly what to say and how to say it. They are the consummate politicians in the highest sense of the word.

    But if anyone is nieve enough to think they won’t keep “their” people more loyal to them than to anyone else, you need to study politics more.

  • BlueTopaz

    2008, the year of the woman! Yikes, if that was our year, what can we expect for this and future years?

  • Jane

    Obama has always been and will continue to be the biggest political fraud our nation has ever witnessed. I call him the “Finger Man”

    He gave Hillary the finger

    He gave McCain the finger

    He gave our Constitution the finger.

    Logic has been missing from the brains of some very intelligent people. Ponder this and test your own powers of logical thinking. Why would Obama spend an inordinate amount of money hiring lawyers to prevent releasing his vault bc, when it would take a paltry $12.50 to acquire it?

    Don’t over think it:o)

  • FranSC

    Jackarooty: I don’t know what the difference is between what you are saying and what the rest of us are saying. I think we are on the same page.

    I feel that a few “deranged” people caused all of this today. I think the people here are mature enough and would have done what has been suggested after we get through the culmination of the huge defeat we have experienced. Being asked to do that before tomorrow was premature.

  • pa voter

    “My only solace is that Hillary and other Clintonistas are doing nanny duty, but it’s a sad day after MLK’s holiday that because of the color of Barack Obama’s skin so many did not dare judge the content of his character.”

    Wow, very well said. That was perfect!
    and oh so very true. It makes me feel as though we haven’t made any progress at all.

  • Ani

    Well stated, fif. You and I are in agreement, as usual.

    The DNC put their finger on the scales for him at every turn — she was not “beaten in a tough election” unless you qualify that as being beaten by your own party stabbing you in the back daily for a less qualified candidate.

  • BlueTopaz

    Priceless!!!!

  • Ani

    I agree that Hillary is sincerely trying to help. She can certainly effect more change from within this administration than from being an outcast with no voice. She will have a voice, a powerful one — her brilliance and preparedness — and doggedness — make that undeniable.

  • FranSC

    fif & Ani, you are spot on! I’m sorry if that is negative. You can’t make those things a positive now. Something CAN be done about it if we do more than complain which we need to do. We can also move on to a different phase. We learned harsh lessons in 2008 and we must not roll over and play dead. Citizens groups can effectively change things.

  • FranSC

    To the Dianes’ of the world: This is NOT about hate for me. It is about crimes against our democracy. This is not even about Hillary and an inability to just get over it. I even got miffed at Hillary when she was disavowing our feelings in July and August. I have never not supported the democratic nominee before. I voted republican for president for the first time in my life in 2008. So don’t tell me that I am participating in hate.

    BTW, during the primaries, I regularly went to a site that didn’t announce a change after June 7th, but the main writer moved from Hillary to Obama. I just stopped going there. I think that’s what Larry and the other writers who agree with that need to do, rather than tell us what will and will not be tolerated. Basically I think there is a disconnect somewhere that is not being sufficiently explained.

  • andrew191

    In order to stay “In character” NR, you should also call him a “dirty birdie”.

  • elise

    What Hillary said was, “Woulda, coulda, shoulda”. I take that to mean you can’t undo what has been done. She will do the best she can as SoS to serve the best interests of the US just as she has always done.

    BTW, the Bidens were on Oprah today. I don’t watch her show, but FOX news gleefully reported Jill Biden “let it slip” Joe was given a choice between VP and SoS and Joe tried to shush her. There are a limited number of conclusions to be drawn from this. Either it is true and Jill runs her mouth as much as her husband or it is not true and Biden is already trying to undermine Hillary’s influence.

    Who in their right mind would want Biden as SoS with his big mouth and what PE would raffle off important positions instead of offering the job to the best qualified person? I’m giving Obama the benefit of the doubt here as Larry requested because it would make no sense to cause unnecessary tension with the State Dept. before he even takes the oath of office.

    But, haven’t most of us questioned the wisdom of choosing Biden as VP? Biden said himself on the Oprah interview, “I told Barack I want to be the last person in the room when he makes an important decision.”

    How do you, Larry and Susan, feel about this? Biden’s spokesperson issued a statement saying Biden was never offered the position of SoS. IMO, there may be some jealously there and that does not bode well for the future.

    Whether Hillary is angry or not at this latest insult, it has increased my anger and distrust and gives a lie to the pretty speech Biden made in Baltimore about coming together as Americans.

  • Snickers

    I’ve actually already contacted my members of congress to not tamper with social security or medicare as Obama wants. Why wait until he’s in and doing damage to our senior protections, contact your members of congress today as well.

  • truthtelling007

    Larry isn’t addressing the sarcasm. I know where he stands because I frequently chat with him off list about the characters here and he’s amazing tolerant. He is addressing the ones who are being extremist in asking, so…you interested in your hatred or in rational path forward filled with skeptical examination. It is sad that people put so much of their faith and confidence in people outside themselves. I don’t need Larry to validate any view for me. I rely upon him as a friend to call it like he sees it. That’s enough for me.

  • truthtelling007

    yes, and that is a simple song lyric. Anger isn’t an energy worth a shit outside the person who feels it. It is personal, thats all. It is a base level reaction that has its purpose to say something is wrong. In some cultures it is a sin to linger with anger and in some it is a sin to avoid reacting to it.

    Hatred is extreme anger and sorry I disagree with you that there is nothing wrong with it. It is destructive to the person who experience, in my opinion and experience.

    I am sensitive to people who feel hatred when it seems justified. Example: If someone just had their child severely harmed by a really bad person, I won’t give samples of events, but telling that person “don’t hate” is very inconsiderate. But when I’ve been close to people who lost children due to the actions of someone else, I don’t lecture them about hate. I just work to ease their pain and help them to seek their resolution.

    But in the cases I give you of understandable hatred doesn’t mean it is good for them. It isn’t. People who suffer from extreme trauma experience hatred towards the person who delivered it to them and towards those like the abuser. This is understandable, but not healthy over a period of time. Any counseling involves helping them to seek resolution inside.

    I don’t conflate anger, righteous anger, with hatred. And in that maybe we boil down to definition differences. I believe hate is irrational anger taken too far.

    Last, I feel it is lazy to resort to silly comments like, “I hate cabbage” or “I hate that Glen Beck on TV, he’s a …” etc. That is horseshit drama. But that is my opinion.

  • truthtelling007

    NK, you can’t handle that Jan has the right to speak too. Take a dose of your own advise. Freedom to speak here isn’t exclusive to you.

  • truthtelling007

    Your first comment is a baseless attack on those who disagree with you.

    It is great that you are ‘clinging to’ your principles. But when Larry announced his principles did you respect his view? Did you support him expressing his view? What about Jan?

    It is so nice when you have the majority agreeing with you, assuming that is even happening. But how quickly many are to jump the ones who have a different minority view here.

    The repeated attacks on Jan and others for sharing their opinion in this blog as well is exactly what Larry is addressing. Should this site turn into a monolith so people can vent, and the damn thing will be dead.

    Venting is vital. But there seems to be a seizure of the site by zealots who want to demand that others kowtow to their piss and vinegar. This makes it hostile to other views. In this Larry is saying, ‘chill out’. It’s his blog, and it would be a damn shame to see the zealots among us dictate what can and cannot be said here.

    I didn’t vote for Obama. Yet I see clearly if anyone dare come here and say something positive about Obama, they get their shit jumped by zealots who have decided this is THEIR HAVEN to express themselves. This is political bigotry and guess what, it isn’t their house to begin with.

    If they want a “HAVEN” that is free of anyone who might dare support Obama, even from a rational point of view, then they better open their own bigotry blog and make it clear, “I Only Want Those Who Agree To Post.”

    Guess what, people have done just that.

    I’m in the business of providing people with these resources and I tell all my clients, speak your own damn mind, don’t wait for others to provide you the space.

    And sorry, but your comment is appears rather condescending to those who don’t run lock step with you as being “sell outs” or “making excuses” as if you are immune from this action. You are setting yourself apart as the moral center. Your shit is pure and free of taint.

    I know you are smarter than that.

  • truthtelling007

    nobody suggested that you couldn’t express your anger. Where do you get such a comment?

    If they removed the hyperbole from this thread, it would have about 5% of this total content.

  • truthtelling007

    Only cowards attack children.

    I agree with the statement that kids of bad people might still believe in their parents, but to go so far as to say attacking Barack Obama’s children is fair game…sorry, that is chicken shit cowardice and it really disgraces the people who are saying this is legit biz. It is wrong to attack Palin’s kids. They didn’t ask to be part of it. It wasn’t right to do it to Chelsea or to the Bush twins. The moral equivalency is appalling.

  • truthtelling007

    “And this place is a haven from the 24/7 non-stop Obama worship services”

    uh..no…this is Larry Johnson’s blog. I think you’ve made a critical mistake. Though it provides, or has been attempting to, a rational discussion filled with criticism…to suddenly appoint it your haven…is rather self serving.

    I might experience it that way too, but still…nope..it is still Larry’s blog.

    I’m not into Barack Obama or Democrats, but I also wasn’t into McCain and Palin. So what Haven was it during those few months of being proMcCain?

    It is only a haven for you? Then it is your blog?

    I’d hope you’d see the blog as being a haven from non-stop bullshit. But what about when that bullshit itself is the “anti-Obama” bullshit? Shouldn’t someone consider this site a haven from that extreme too?

    Hype on either side is ridiculous. I’m reading a ton of very irrational anti-obama comments with very rational anti-obama comments and I can tell the difference.

    I’m appalled at the price of this inauguration and the campaigns, but this isn’t new to me. I’ve been railing against that sort of spending for over 20 years!

    And Ferd, don’t mistake me, I want you to have a haven from the Obama worship. I truly understand. But that doesn’t give me the right to come here and seize the blog from the owner and make it into my image.

    I will treat Larry and Susan with respect for having me here. I am embarrassed for them after reading some of this horseshit whining going on. I know 9 year olds who handle disagreement and dissent better than this.

  • prieur

    Why do I wish well for Barack is because I wish well for my country. just like I would have wish well for Hillary of McCain
    ANYTHING THAT MAKES MY COUNTRY A SUCCESS IS FINE BY ME

    dont you think it is better to be proven wrong if at the end your country rises and succeeds

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    Mind out of the toilet, please, Farfel.

  • beebop

    Your comment is so wonderful.

    The other day I was commenting on Geithner to my brother in law who supported barky only because he was a Democrat (sic). Neither he nor my sister knew one damn thing about him, but they were tired of Republicans and threatening to leave the country, etc., etc. When we got down to the end of the Geithner discussion, my BIL basically said it was okay because Geithner at least isn’t a Republican. So. No, I don’t hate barky. I hate what his win at all costs did to the Democratic (sic) party. I hate what his taking money illegally has done to the future of presidential elections. I hate that he is being coronated today rather than either HRC or McCain — both of whom have demonstrated a better grasp of the issues time and time again. I hate what he did to the racial divide in this country and the fact that the policies of Fannie Mae hit the AA community at a disproportionately higher rate than any other group but that like sheeple they voted color and not content. I hate that it happened at the worst time in the history of this nation.

    Hating barky would mean that there is something there to hate. He is the invisible man. God love us all. I pray that he is a one termer and that the people working for him are smart enough not to let him screw it up too much more than shrub already has. Amen.

  • beebop

    In true troll form, last comment is what it’s all about, isn’t it? Don’t you have a VCR that needs warming up or a top hat that needs dusting off?

  • beebop

    Your long, preachy posts are a little over the top. When you start your own blog, let us know …. okay? Until then …. Larry and Susan are doing a fine job moderating without stepping on freedom of expression.

  • truthtelling007

    see, now even though this comment uses the word ‘hate’ a lot…it is a thoughtful and reasoned comment.

    Especially, that “hating barky would mean there is something there to hate”.

  • truthtelling007

    actually, it is up to them to dictate the terms of the posts. It is their blog and I’ve been given permission to speak freely. Thanks for your concerns.

  • truthtelling007

    and beebop, try listening to your own advice before you lecture me:

    “Larry and Susan are doing a fine job moderating without stepping on freedom of expression”

    Your actions just contradicted your own advice.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    i think we all “hope” for the best over the next four years, but that doesn’t “change” certain realities. there are problems with obama himself, and also with the process by which he was elected. i think that this combination is what makes so many of us unwilling to just “move on.”

    even if obama turns out okay, there are so many problems with the process, and these are closely tied to the pathetic state that america is in today, so it is hard to just forget about it.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    isn’t obama the one who has failed to produce the evidence? oh well; W was above the law and so is Ozero. so much for the “change.”

  • truthtelling007

    no, that isn’t how Burden of Proof exists.

    If I accuse you of molesting your neighbor, I can’t just say it without evidence. I have to produce something that shows you did it. If the prosecutor goes to a grand jury and says, “they haven’t produced evidence that this didn’t happen” he’ll be laughed out of the court.

  • truthtelling007

    its a walk in. one of those greys.

  • sjc-tx

    I agree totally. We wouldn’t be here if noone stood up for their convictions. Being naive and nonconfrontational accomplishes NOTHING.

  • truthtelling007

    Agreed, but who has advocated being naive and nonconfrontational?

    Standing up for convictions is one thing, spewing personal hateful comments is another.

    I’m reading people jump to either extreme to avoid what LJ is addressing here. And I’m watching people downplay what they just said over the past few days that weren’t about “standing up for convictions”.

    Where did LJ say, “don’t stand up for your convictions”…even in implication?

  • avwrobel

    Sorry truthtelling007 but you’ve got it backwards. Obama is applying for a job and has to prove his credentials for it. If someone says they graduated from a college when applying for a job and then gets a job, but later it turns out they never went to that college, that person can then be fired. Obama supporters who say ‘you have to prove he wasn’t born here’ have it backwards. Its a constitutional requirement to be natural born, and it reflects on Obama’s bad character that he ran for POTUS knowing he is ineligible for the job.

  • avwrobel

    Same for you UKforDems. See my post below. Obama has to produce his real birth certificate to prove his constitutional eligibility for the office of POTUS, and if the Supreme Court shirks its duty then there is no Consitution anymore.

  • Dawnelle

    agreed

  • Dawnelle

    pieces of the Constitution started being peeled away 6+yrs ago

    it’s now shredded and the new administration has NO plans on reviving it! (for many reasons MOST include spite and money)

    I give them NO QUARTER

  • truthtelling007

    First, I’m not an Obama supporter. If you’ve been around NQ, this has been made clear.

    Second, the accusation is that his birth certificate is false. Therefore the one who says it is false has the burden of proof.

  • oowawa

    Like Groucho said, “I wouldn’t want to be part of any club that would allow me to be a member.” I think this is wise, and if NQ were a club, I wouldn’t join, because they’ve allowed me to hang out here for months.

    But this is Larry’s sandbox, and we play here at his pleasure. He’s been pretty tolerant of the roughhouse give-and-take that goes on around here. Occasionally, someone is told to go home and don’t come back, and sometimes those ejected are my friends. I miss them.

    But this has been mostly a fun place to be, and I thank Larry for the forum, and I recognize that he has the right, and even the responsibility, to set the general tone of the blog. I expect that he will continue to allow a good deal of roughhouse. I hope so. As HARP once remarked, this is a good place to hang-out, “as long as you don’t mind being told you’re bat-shit crazy from time to time.” Amen.

  • beebop

    You better freaking pray that he does. The only thing left is PEACE on our shores and I tell you that if that goes, they won’t be looking for the 56 year old women. Anyone remember what pulled us out of our last great depression? ding ding ding!

  • beebop

    Honey. Most people can express an opinion without talking down to the rest of us. I had a momma. She did her best. Give it a rest, m’kay?

  • truthtelling007

    I’m not your honey.

  • oowawa

    So all i have to say is buckle up, it’s going to be a turbulent 4 years, and we deserve every bruise.

    I’m gonna griddle some loins, K-girl.

  • truthtelling007

    I think this is a good point to consider. When I was asked why I trusted Obama by someone earlier (who was gravely misinformed)..I said, that my focus is on his ‘rove’, David Axelrod, and these other political hacks that framed his campaign. They are the spin doctors to be examined.

  • beebop

    You got that right. As long as Everready is still making batteries, a girl can maintain her standards!

  • truthtelling007

    what ever makes you happy.

  • oowawa

    Good one, JulieD. It’s funny how inadvertent slips often lead us to insights.

  • beebop

    Maintaining standards. Stooping lower than them is an insult to women every where who are forced to compromise.

  • truthtelling007

    If you wish.

  • beebop

    You are a typical troll …. maybe not an 0bama troll, but a thought troll. The idea of not responding and having the very last word — even if meaningless — is just anathema to you. God love your poor long suffering friends and family. They deserve UBM’s awards — all of them.

  • Sometime-CIA-Defender

    His kids are actors.

    Can’t find them on IMDB. Do they use screen names?

    Sometimes I think if people put half the effort into questioning W (who proved he’s not up to the job) that they do over someone who hasn’t even taken office yet, we would be far better off.

    But that’s it ultimately, isn’t it? So many people were asleep at the switch for the past eight years that they are overcompensating now.

  • stodgie

    somtimes i wonder why bots don’t question obama. sure it is true of bush, but you don’t get away with that false flag about obama hasn’t taken office.

  • beebop

    How is it you missed a two year campaign with no vetting of his abysmal little record? No accomplishments other than naming a post office? Two works of fiction that are incorrectly shelved in the memoirs section? Did you miss Nancy Pelosi and her stooges when they said “no impeachment?” Why is it that Democrats (sic) hold Republicans to higher standards? That’s the $64 thousand question if you ask me!

  • avwrobel

    You still have it wrong. He HASN”T provided his birth certificate to prove his natural born citizenship. He LIES when he says was born in Hawaii. Many lawasuits have been filed to get him to releasethe birth cert. on file for him in Hawaii. He’s fought the lawsuits with 3 diff law firms and spent close to $1,000,000.00 to prevent its release. There’s no ‘conspiracy theorists’ here. The question is ‘Why not just release the birth certificate?

  • BlueTopaz

    Did you miss the end of my sentence?

    as long as it’s used for motivation and not self-destruction.

  • BlueTopaz

    Sorry, I have a short attention span and am dyslexic, could you be succinct?

  • Ferd Berfle

    If mine is in the toilet, yours is about three blocks away in the sewer, Spot.

  • http://! stodgie

    ah my snark meter is going through the roof.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Starting tomorrow Barack will have no place to hide.

    I think he will have many places to hide. That is all he knows how to do.

    His actions HAVE NEVER matched his words.

    With respect LJ, I don’t believe BO’s indifference or him lacking a moral compass will change…as you say…”stay tuned”.

  • Sevren

    RIP you seem to forget or be ignorant of or outright are lying about Acorn false registration equaling fraudulent voting. There has to be an actualy person in the voting booth. Please tell me then how false registrtion equals false votes.

  • Wisewoman

    Truthtelling. With all your blather and explanations the “racist” charges still worked to Obama’s advantage. That is what is so upsetting to people. It upsets me too and I am an AA.

  • truthtelling007

    I didn’t suggest that they didn’t work. I’m saying that it was abused by the Obama supporters. And in abusing the term as they did, they diminish making real changes in racism.

    I’m keenly aware of what “is so upsetting to people”

    It’s race baiting. It distracts from real racist issues that do still exist.

  • beebop

    His Kenyan father makes him somewhat African … MEchelle makes him Chicago connected ….

  • curious

    beebop, and aren’t you trying to have the last word? why do you point at someone and accuse when you are doing the same thing?

    Most of what you just said above is meaningless, why is that different?

    all you guys need to chill a little.

  • Idiocracy08

    But let me ask you a very simple question–if he is such a bad guy why do his daughters think he’s so great?

    Cause his daughters don’t know Alice Palmer and don’t understand caucuses.

    I do think Barack is probably a very good father. I will give him that. I really do think he has resentment towards his own father not being there for him, and he has spoken out about dead-beat dads. His children are adorable, and I’m sure he is very proud of them and loves them very much.

    I know a lot of great fathers that would make lousy presidents.

  • truthtelling007

    Good point, Idiocracy08.

    I don’t have hatred for Barack Obama, but I also never hated some of the piss poor managers I’ve known over the last 20 years. Very kind people have been managers and done a lousy job at it.

    His treatment of Alice Palmer, Hillary Clinton, and others, does show a disconnected hubris that is only going to grow with adulation.

    A great friend of mine in Chicago told me he just saw a clip from the mid 90s and said he remembers that ‘humble’ Obama. He says he was quite real at the time, probably green. Now he doesn’t see the same person at all.

  • Wisewoman

    Truthtelling. The thought police at it again.

  • truthtelling007

    why is it that if I respond to something, it is thought policing, but if you respond…it is not?

    I have a right to respond to the comments just as much as you. There is no policing going on here.

    I am asking where people are getting these interpretations from out of Larry’s writing?

  • Newly Independent

    ….even if you ask your average black person you will find that although they are encourage that Obama was elected, they do no think he will change much over night or make everything better or is the messiah.

    I am African American, and I can tell you that you are full of s— as far as this remark goes.

    Many Obamabots in my community DO believe that Obama is their “messiah.” This idea is not a product of NQ bloggers’ imaginations. Most Obamabots of all races (especially Black people) have bought Obama’s crap – hook, line and sinker.

    They’re in for the shock of their lives.

    And as for this…

    And I serious doubt Obama is as you say a closet socialist. Where is there absolutely any proof of this.

    There is PLENTY of online evidence to support this truth about Obama. The Socialist club that he belonged to in Chicago years ago endorsed his run for the Illinois state senate.

    Look it up.

    You Obamabots should have done your research on this man, instead of running off of MSM hype. We here at NQ have done our homework on this guy well over a year ago. So we’re not talking out of our asses. We don’t allow the MEDIA to do our thinking for us.

  • gharlane

    I also don’t like the fact that he wants to spend and create more social programs when we have no money. … Maybe if we had a Republican congress to counteract his none sense [sic], i would feel better, but he doesnt.

    Actually, kgirl, according to Paul Krugman among others, spending money on social programs — even from a position of serious existing debt — is exactly what we need to do right now. Krugman is, in fact, worried that Obama’s plans in this regard are far too timid.

    Note: The Krugman piece at Rolling Stone that I linked to is one of his lengthier recent onces, but you can read more of his economic discussions at his usual digs at the NY Times blog.

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/

    Not that it should matter, but Krugman was a strong supporter of Hillary over Obama during the primaries. Not to mention a fairly well-respected economist. Just sayin’.

  • Sometime-CIA-Defender

    Well, I’m not a bot. I voted for Hillary in the primary and donated to her campaign. And I question Obama’s judgment frequently. Sometimes I come to understand things (Rick Warren is open-minded and may come to accept Civil Unions, for example) and other times I don’t (Libby, Plame-Wilson, impeachment).

    And it bothers me that there are people (most of them young) who quote him like they’re quoting the Bible. But does that say more about him or them? Getting our apathetic youth (lowest segment of turnout for voting traditionally) interested in politics IS an accomplishment.

    I’m not saying we shouldn’t vet people when they’re running for office, I’m saying you can’t condemn an entire four-year term that hasn’t even happened yet. That’s not a false flag.

  • Sometime-CIA-Defender

    Like I said above, not my first choice. His voting record is sketchy. He’s not experienced. (Bush was; did it matter?)

    The works of fiction comment sounds unfounded, to me, but since I never read his books, I didn’t concern myself with their veracity.

    Re: Pelosi, the Democrats in Congress don’t hold anyone accountable. I should think that would be obvious at this point. :)

    As for people like me, it’s not about which party they’re from, it’s what they do. For example, I think no-bid contracts to a company the VP used to be a VP of (one of the lesser high crimes, I think) is a bigger deal than a B.J. You may differ, but I don’t see that as holding Cheney to a higher standard than Clinton. And the GOP stack from the past eight years goes much higher than that.

    The majority of negative Obama stories, IMO, lacked anything beyond guilt-by-association (which any politician has; he meets with other politicians!). I researched Rezko, Ayers, and the birth certificate as best as I could because I found those stories disturbing. I didn’t find that Obama committed any crimes. Frankly, the whole furor over the first and third of those stories reminded me of Whitewater and Lewinsky, which were also nothings. Ayers is still troubling (primarily because he never paid his debt to society), but I don’t believe out new POTUS is a terrorist. And the primary espouser of the birth cert story also thinks Bush/Cheney were behind 9/11. He goes into the tinfoil hat pile.

  • beebop

    I am a little tired of Democrats (sic) lowering themselves to the standards of the Republicans … Geithner made a “mistake?” Please. Do you need to be a genius to know that you can’t take a deduction for sleep away camp? REALLY

  • Paladin

    Larry,

    Where was this piece months ago when you and your rabid hounds were throwing all manner of crap against the wall against Obama? Where was your vision and even-handedness when you were heralding the “Whitey” tape! Face it Larry, you have fostered the environmentthat created these “monsters” and fed the fury that ensued. You did not say much (initially) when the racists spewed their garbage, you were silent when they made the worst comments, racial and otherwise, about Michelle Obama. Only now that President has taken the helm, do you try to tighten the leash on these lunatics. Shame on you and what you have done, these lunatic fringers are partly YOUR responsibility. All the livestock is out, why are you closing the damn barn door? Good grief, Larry

  • Country First

    “Barack has been a loving, supportive father. Mob members are loving to thier children, too. It’s how you treat what isn’t yours that is telling about the soundness of one’s character, IMO anyway.” I couldn’t agree more.

    Larry is right about the hate. I don’t hate Barack Obama; I don’t trust him. He has gained no more character in my eyes since he was elected than before he was elected. And, while he is an old style politician, let’s not forget how the media was was part and parcel of the fraud by hiding these character flaws from the public.

  • Ellis

    And now Obama wants to shift responsibility for stem cell research to Congress?

    I can get really annoyed with Obama’s seeming caution, and in many ways I’d like to see him just ax any number of Bush’s executive orders.

    On the other hand, I think Obama may be approaching this from a different position. While he can reverse the executive order on stem cell research, he probably believes (with some justification) that it will be much more effective if there is a bipartisan expression of support for reversing Bush’s order.

    On a host of issues in the last few years decisions that have been made unilaterally (by Bush, for example) or by courts (generally seen as unelected even in cases where they are) have come in for tremendous criticism and been deemed undemocratic by many. On social issues that have been emotionally fraught, I suspect that Obama thinks that in the long run it will be a lot better to have Congress play a prominent (even pre-eminent) role in setting the course. And he’s probably right.

    He should certainly have a short timetable for Congress to act, but if he can get substantial margins in both houses to openly support expanded embryonic stem cell research, then it is probably a very smart thing to do.

    Although I disagree with Obama on a wide range of issues, I think he operates with a much wider view of things than most people do. It remains to be seen whether that will prove effective, but so far he’s been quite successful. He won election by a substantial margin (by the standards of recent presidential elections) and the vast majority of the American people currently appear to be very supportive of him and his policies. Since he faces problems of great complexity and severity, he’s going to need that good will to continue.

    As has been noted, Obama is now directly responsible for what happens in his administration. The thing to do now is to let him be president and see how things turn out. That doesn’t mean unquestioning silence, but it does mean giving him some space to govern. We’ll know soon enough how effective his approach is.

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