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		<title>By: Senator Clinton&#8217;s Plan to Purloin her Party&#8217;s Presidential Nomination &#171; Hillary Watch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Senator Clinton&#8217;s Plan to Purloin her Party&#8217;s Presidential Nomination &#171; Hillary Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mkolb</title>
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		<dc:creator>mkolb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He who owns the press, has the freedom.  In that context, the people who history tells us &quot;won&quot; are freedom fighters.  The people who history tells us &quot;lost&quot; are terrorists.  Very broadly speaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He who owns the press, has the freedom.  In that context, the people who history tells us &#8220;won&#8221; are freedom fighters.  The people who history tells us &#8220;lost&#8221; are terrorists.  Very broadly speaking.</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1165/will-obama-run-an-oprah-foreign-policy/#comment-86409</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry I talk of &lt;em&gt;good intentioned&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;well meaning&lt;/em&gt; behaviour a lot in my to be published book.

Prior to the debarkle you mentioned some parents were comparing Oprah&#039;s school to Colditz or an inflexible prison and its staff, wardens. The Mother Theresa was not a good person. She was a zealot. Likewise Oprah is not well meaning or good intentioned, she is a lay preacher lacking the skills of someone like Dr Phil.

I think that Oprah should forget the black thing and side with Mrs Clinton to make the &lt;strong&gt;mean team&lt;/strong&gt;. I am reminded of Jefferson in one of his quotes where he talked of Priests aiding and abetting [people of power] to support their own vices.

If we look at that. Heroin use has been popular in the British aristocracy, yet they speak out vehemently against [hard] drugs. The Beligian royal family had members who had been priviledged guests at underage sex shows, yet they are one of the louder voices against paedophilia. There have been numerous influencial Audstralians caught drunk driving and not prosecuted. Yet they all speak of drunk drivers deserving only of hard jail time. I guess that is what Jefferson was talking about. I could go on....and on.

Larry, given the choice of Obama or Clinton, I would endorse Obama with a 1000 kisses. &lt;strong&gt;However, we are in agreement that he is a slimeball toerag, and unfortunately, sad to say.....PERFECT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry I talk of <em>good intentioned</em>, <em>well meaning</em> behaviour a lot in my to be published book.</p>
<p>Prior to the debarkle you mentioned some parents were comparing Oprah&#8217;s school to Colditz or an inflexible prison and its staff, wardens. The Mother Theresa was not a good person. She was a zealot. Likewise Oprah is not well meaning or good intentioned, she is a lay preacher lacking the skills of someone like Dr Phil.</p>
<p>I think that Oprah should forget the black thing and side with Mrs Clinton to make the <strong>mean team</strong>. I am reminded of Jefferson in one of his quotes where he talked of Priests aiding and abetting [people of power] to support their own vices.</p>
<p>If we look at that. Heroin use has been popular in the British aristocracy, yet they speak out vehemently against [hard] drugs. The Beligian royal family had members who had been priviledged guests at underage sex shows, yet they are one of the louder voices against paedophilia. There have been numerous influencial Audstralians caught drunk driving and not prosecuted. Yet they all speak of drunk drivers deserving only of hard jail time. I guess that is what Jefferson was talking about. I could go on&#8230;.and on.</p>
<p>Larry, given the choice of Obama or Clinton, I would endorse Obama with a 1000 kisses. <strong>However, we are in agreement that he is a slimeball toerag, and unfortunately, sad to say&#8230;..PERFECT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: wethornet</title>
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		<dc:creator>wethornet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>justsomeone, are you sure you are spelling steadem&#039;s name properly?  i just did a google search and got nothing with that spelling.

i don&#039;t recall you ever posting before...who are you?  introduce yourself, if you care to.

how do you know about this?  it was, iirc, about 21 years ago or so.  i was on active duty at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>justsomeone, are you sure you are spelling steadem&#8217;s name properly?  i just did a google search and got nothing with that spelling.</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t recall you ever posting before&#8230;who are you?  introduce yourself, if you care to.</p>
<p>how do you know about this?  it was, iirc, about 21 years ago or so.  i was on active duty at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
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		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michel, &quot;US navy guy is killed&quot;, yeah  NAVY S.E.A.L. Robert Steadem  VOLUNTEERED his life to protect civilian passengers. Be nice to Shirin &amp; maybe she&#039;ll take you real estate shopping in Syria next summer. Since it&#039;s obvious you hate the US, why don&#039;t you just leave?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michel, &#8220;US navy guy is killed&#8221;, yeah  NAVY S.E.A.L. Robert Steadem  VOLUNTEERED his life to protect civilian passengers. Be nice to Shirin &amp; maybe she&#8217;ll take you real estate shopping in Syria next summer. Since it&#8217;s obvious you hate the US, why don&#8217;t you just leave?</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1165/will-obama-run-an-oprah-foreign-policy/#comment-85222</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this from someone who has a consistent record of ducking out of controversial votes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this from someone who has a consistent record of ducking out of controversial votes?</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At Huffington Post:

&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/18/obama-called-out-ted-kenn_n_77337.html?view=print&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama Called Out Ted Kennedy: &#039;You&#039;re Getting A Little Old...Get Some Spine&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Huffington Post:</p>
<p>&#8220;<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/18/obama-called-out-ted-kenn_n_77337.html?view=print" rel="nofollow">Obama Called Out Ted Kennedy: &#8216;You&#8217;re Getting A Little Old&#8230;Get Some Spine&#8217;</a>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: MEP</title>
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		<dc:creator>MEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shirin
You might consider purchasing copies of &quot;Overthrow&quot; and &quot;All the Shah&#039;s Men: An American Coup&quot; by Stephen Kinzer.  If you&#039;ve already read these two books hell buy them anyway and pass them on to the &quot;Uninformed&quot; as gifts of Holiday enlightenment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shirin<br />
You might consider purchasing copies of &#8220;Overthrow&#8221; and &#8220;All the Shah&#8217;s Men: An American Coup&#8221; by Stephen Kinzer.  If you&#8217;ve already read these two books hell buy them anyway and pass them on to the &#8220;Uninformed&#8221; as gifts of Holiday enlightenment.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TPM this morning.  First:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/061444.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Got a Bridge in Brooklyn to Sell You&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/12/obama_spokesman_no_one_in_campaign_has_been_more_scrutinized_by_media_than_obama_has.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama flack&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;No candidate in this race has undergone more investigations and examinations than Barack Obama has.&quot;

--David Kurtz
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Then, from Josh Marshall himself:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/061452.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You&#039;re Kidding Me, Right?&lt;/a&gt;

I really hope the Obama camp is kidding when they say Barack is the most scrutinized candidate in the race. If they&#039;re not, they&#039;re living in a fantasy world that makes me question whether they&#039;re up to the rigors of a national campaign.

Let me be clear: there&#039;s legitimate scrutiny of legislative records, policy positions, personal finances, history of decisions made in tough, pressure-filled situations (the only really legitimate meaning of character), etc. There&#039;s been some of that and should probably be more.

Then there&#039;s the collective assault that constitutes modern press &#039;scrutiny&#039;, especially for a Democrat who generally has to deal with the tag team of the national political press and the regrettably much more able and ruthless GOP oppo research cadre, which has an established feeding operation mainlined to most national political reporters.

It ain&#039;t fair; it ain&#039;t right; but it&#039;s the reality. And if he thinks he&#039;s already gotten that, well ... what&#039;s he been smoking?

--Josh Marshall</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TPM this morning.  First:</p>
<p><a href="http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/061444.php" rel="nofollow">Got a Bridge in Brooklyn to Sell You</a></p>
<p><a href="http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/12/obama_spokesman_no_one_in_campaign_has_been_more_scrutinized_by_media_than_obama_has.php" rel="nofollow">Obama flack</a>: &#8220;No candidate in this race has undergone more investigations and examinations than Barack Obama has.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;David Kurtz<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Then, from Josh Marshall himself:</p>
<p><a href="http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/061452.php" rel="nofollow">You&#8217;re Kidding Me, Right?</a></p>
<p>I really hope the Obama camp is kidding when they say Barack is the most scrutinized candidate in the race. If they&#8217;re not, they&#8217;re living in a fantasy world that makes me question whether they&#8217;re up to the rigors of a national campaign.</p>
<p>Let me be clear: there&#8217;s legitimate scrutiny of legislative records, policy positions, personal finances, history of decisions made in tough, pressure-filled situations (the only really legitimate meaning of character), etc. There&#8217;s been some of that and should probably be more.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the collective assault that constitutes modern press &#8216;scrutiny&#8217;, especially for a Democrat who generally has to deal with the tag team of the national political press and the regrettably much more able and ruthless GOP oppo research cadre, which has an established feeding operation mainlined to most national political reporters.</p>
<p>It ain&#8217;t fair; it ain&#8217;t right; but it&#8217;s the reality. And if he thinks he&#8217;s already gotten that, well &#8230; what&#8217;s he been smoking?</p>
<p>&#8211;Josh Marshall</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Precisely, wethornet! An utterly illegitimate - one might even say criminal - action, as contrasted to, for example, attacking invading foreign military forces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Precisely, wethornet! An utterly illegitimate &#8211; one might even say criminal &#8211; action, as contrasted to, for example, attacking invading foreign military forces.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cee, that is a venerable motivation. But I did hear her also mention why she didn&#039;t want to do this in the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cee, that is a venerable motivation. But I did hear her also mention why she didn&#8217;t want to do this in the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: wethornet</title>
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		<dc:creator>wethornet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, and what would you say to Iranians who say, &quot;no quarter,&quot; for our involvement in the 1953 coup?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, and what would you say to Iranians who say, &#8220;no quarter,&#8221; for our involvement in the 1953 coup?</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So can someone show me a link to where Sen Obama has said he will be appointing Oprah as his National Security Advisor or as his Secretary of State ( or both sequentially ).

Protocol is defined as the way things had been done until they are done a different way and then that becomes protocol for a while.

&quot;Legitimate Bad Guy&quot; ( is that like jumbo shrimp or authorized freedom ?)  ok so who is an illegitimate bad guy?  How does one legitimize a bad guy?  Get him elected of course?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So can someone show me a link to where Sen Obama has said he will be appointing Oprah as his National Security Advisor or as his Secretary of State ( or both sequentially ).</p>
<p>Protocol is defined as the way things had been done until they are done a different way and then that becomes protocol for a while.</p>
<p>&#8220;Legitimate Bad Guy&#8221; ( is that like jumbo shrimp or authorized freedom ?)  ok so who is an illegitimate bad guy?  How does one legitimize a bad guy?  Get him elected of course?</p>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about &quot;popular&quot;, but it can be most necessary.

Closure for Irgun (or was it Stern gang??) terror is easy to achieve, at least on paper: 
Begin and Shamir&#039;s memory are dragged into mud, immense reparations are paid to the Palestinians who are allowed to return to the lands stolen from them over the past 60+ years. The &quot;zionist dream&quot; of &quot;eretz israel&quot; is limited to a 100 square kilometer of Negev desert where zionists are allowed again to &quot;make the desert bloom&quot; as one great myth has it.
See, closure absolute. On paper. Or blogs... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about &#8220;popular&#8221;, but it can be most necessary.</p>
<p>Closure for Irgun (or was it Stern gang??) terror is easy to achieve, at least on paper:<br />
Begin and Shamir&#8217;s memory are dragged into mud, immense reparations are paid to the Palestinians who are allowed to return to the lands stolen from them over the past 60+ years. The &#8220;zionist dream&#8221; of &#8220;eretz israel&#8221; is limited to a 100 square kilometer of Negev desert where zionists are allowed again to &#8220;make the desert bloom&#8221; as one great myth has it.<br />
See, closure absolute. On paper. Or blogs&#8230; <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MEP</title>
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		<dc:creator>MEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since it seems to be popular to reach back into history for context, who were the &quot;legitimate bad guys&quot; on July 22, 1946?  Is it possible to have a moment of &quot;closure&quot; for this act of terrorism?  Context can be a tricky thing.  How many future world leaders had their names on the bombing of the King David Hotel which was widely condemned as an &quot;act of terrorism&quot;?  Damn history can be messy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since it seems to be popular to reach back into history for context, who were the &#8220;legitimate bad guys&#8221; on July 22, 1946?  Is it possible to have a moment of &#8220;closure&#8221; for this act of terrorism?  Context can be a tricky thing.  How many future world leaders had their names on the bombing of the King David Hotel which was widely condemned as an &#8220;act of terrorism&#8221;?  Damn history can be messy.</p>
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