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Shimon Peres is Batshit Crazy

By Larry Johnson on January 19, 2009 at 11:09 PM in Current Affairs

No wonder the Israelis do stupid stuff. Look at this clown they have as their President:

Outgoing US President George Bush telephoned President Shimon Peres bidding him farewell on the occasion of the end of Bush’s term as president Tuesday.

Peres said to Bush, “If the world had acted against Hitler the way you acted against Saddam Hussein, the lives of millions would have been saved.” The president added, “You made a historic contribution to the entire world and to the Jewish people in particular. We will treasure this forever and will never forget it.” (Ronen Medzini)

Looks like George Bush is not the only leader who does not know dick about history. Hey Shimon. Try this on for size. If we had fought Hitler like Bush fought Saddam there would not have been a single Jew left alive anywhere in Europe. Does Peres even get to read newspapers? Somebody tell him that

we are still fighting in Iraq. We defeated Germany–who had a real Army, Air Force, and Navy–in three years, five months. (And if we mark the start of the war with the invasion of Poland in September 1939, the war lasted five years, eight months). We invaded Iraq almost six years ago and the job still is not done. And Peres thinks this is a good thing? We may be rid of Bush tomorrow but Peres, sadly, is still in power.

  • MrMike

    Maybe it’s like when you say to your spouse or significant other, “No it doesn’t make you look fat”.

    • Jan

      Just reminds me of an article I read in the Atlantic, PJ O’Rouke writing on Disney’s new House of the Future :

      …Much of what we couldn’t see had been described in the AP piece, “Disney revives House of the Future to Showcase Technology.” Various passages had caught my attention when I’d read it, raising my blood pressure: “Closets will help pick out the right dress for a party.” Imagine that, a talking mirror telling you,”That makes your butt look big.”

  • Donovan Fraser

    since when were we ( USA) responsible for making the world safer for an already superiorly and nuclear armed nation? that’s also the bat shit craz part. we actually play along in this silly charade.

    the Israeli government is not the victim, their citizens are.
    they are like the world heavyweight boxer crying about his 90 pound wife slapping him. It defies all realty.

  • Andrew P

    “If the world had acted…”

    Talk about wilful ignorance. “The world” did act against Hitler, and it does not diminish the American role to point out that a fair share of the world was paying the price before the US got involved. My grandparents were killed in Coventry on the night of 15 November 1940—the worst night of the Blitz. In the end, the total number of military and civilian deaths for the UK exceeded the number for the USA, which had three times the population. Let’s not forget our Soviet allies, either—22 million deaths without including Holocaust victims in the total.

    Would Mr Peres have us remember only the Jewish victims of Hitler’s evil? Based on his manipulation of Gentile guilt about the Holocaust to serve his own ends, the answer would seem to be “Yes.”

    • JulieD

      Andrew P –

      He meant earlier. Surely with your British relatives you’re aware of Chamberlain?

      And the Soviets were not OUR allies at first…

      • Andrew P

        Even if Peres meant to refer to the Munich agreement he is misrepresenting history to create a false parallel. In the first place, Chamberlain came to terms with Hitler six weeks BEFORE the Kristallnacht Pogrom that many historians regard as the beginning of the Holocaust. Until then the persecution of the Jews in Germany, while deplorable and despicable, did not have a markedly different character from the economic, political, and social manifestations of anti-Semitism that had stained the pages of European history (outside Russia) for the past several centuries. The Crystal Night, with its violence and roundings-up, was the turning point in the outside world’s perception of the real danger to European Jewry if Hitler was not stopped.

        There’s nothing wrong with the idea that “the world” should have acted sooner. Don’t we wish it had. What I object to is condemning the people who lived in it for lacking the wisdom we have through hindsight, with what seems to me the deliberate implication that anti-Semitism was at the root of their mis-judgement. Most Americans have no idea how badly Britain suffered from World War I. Almost an entire generation of men was killed. Every family was affected. The fabric of society was ripped apart. The British did not want another war because the memory of the last one was too fresh and too painful. They wanted what Neville Chamberlain thought he had obtained—”Peace in our time.” He turned out to be as far off the mark as possible, and we and history judge him in that light. But to saddle him and others of the era with second-hand responsibility for the tragedy of the Holocaust is wrong. There ought not to be any doubt where full responsibility lies, and I don’t hear Germans talking about the failure of other nations to intervene in a more timely manner.

        As for the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact—it only underscores the fact that the UK’s darkest hour was the year and a half when the British stood alone against Hitler. If they had fallen, who can say whether the US would have fought a European war or not? What then, Mr Peres? Ultimately, though, it was Russian soldiers who liberated many of the death camps, and I cannot understand why simply alluding to the deaths of 20-odd million Russians in WW II is seen by some as diminishing the horror of the Holocaust. We ought to remember all the victims of the Nazi terror. We well ought to accord special status to the Jewish victims. They deserve it. But I think it serves their memory ill to turn them into political footballs.

        • Jan

          Thank you, very well put.

          I am too a supporter of those who were victimized by the Holocaust, I can’t help but feel dirty when I see the issue politicized in this manner, used, ironically as a justification for war crimes against another civilian population.

          I thought of all people, the Israelis would have fought to stop others from being brutalized in the same manner, having been victimized as such, — instead, they turn around, and murder the same way.

          Many of us here would have been the first to speak out about the slaughter of the Jews in the 40′s, the first to fight discrimination against Jews, (which many of us still DO), yet when we speak out about the Palestinians victimized in GAZA, we’re accused of anti-semitism.

          And poor Barbara Boxer, by rote, announcing from the senate floor, Congressional support for Israel’s most recent action — stupid Barbara, you just endorsed American complicity in genocide.

          Find out what you’re endorsing before you open your mouths.

        • Doc99

          Those who desire peace should prepare for war. – Flavius Vegetius

    • NoBamaNoWay

      give it up andrew. this discussion is in the context of the israeli situation, and it seems that you are willfully denying that there was any singular effort to exterminate *jews* all throughout europe, regardless of their nationality, place of residence, loyalty, etc. you seem determined to trivialize the virtually continent-wide effort to exterminate to specifically exterminate jews. hmmm. and now you’re shilling for the next bunch of psychos that want to exterminate them.

  • http://watchpaul.blogspot.com Rose

    The ‘war’ in Iraq ended a long time ago, We have been there mopping up and training and fighting bad guys, yes, but we are not at war with the people of Iraq.

    Seems to me, anyway.

    Those bad guys that we are after weave past blockades to drive a car bomb into school children walking to school. They have to be sought out and killed wherever they are and wiped off this planet. We all better hope Obama keeps it up. And that he at least gets the support of his devoted fanatical followers.

    Do you think this job will ever be done?

  • socalannie

    Larry, you’re so funny! I agree that Peres statement was utterly ridiculous.

    • BernieO

      I am amazed by how many people make dumb analogies and get away with it. Hitler was the head of a huge, well-financed (with the help of American money men like Bush’s great grandaddy)military machine. Sa weddam’s military was so weak we easily ran over in the first Gulf War. He was much weaker by the time Bush decided to take him out. Hitler indeed.

  • JulieD

    Maybe the CIA could have done the right thing and come out against the lying conniving Gen. Powell?

    Maybe BO’s buddies who made out like bandits in Iraq should be prosecuted here or returned to Iraq?

    Maybe the U.S. should limit its support to countries where women aren’t treated like chattel?

    Peres was more closely associated with the Oslo Accords than any other Israeli politician except for his own protégé, Yossi Beilin.

    Peres has remained a fierce supporter of the Oslo Accords and the Palestinian Authority despite the First Intifada and the Al-Aqsa Intifada.

    Peres only supported Ariel Sharon’s military policy of operating the IDF to thwart suicide bombings.

    Peres has earned great prestige and respect among international public opinion and diplomatic circles.

    Peres is not batshit crazy. Just kind to an outgoing President.

    It’s called diplomacy.

    • elise

      Julie, I believe Yitzhak Rabin signed the Oslo Accords and won the Nobel Peace Prise shortly before he was assassinated by right-wing Israeli radical Yigal Amir.

      If Peres believes the invasion of Iraq by the US led by GWB was a great contribution to Israel and if he believes this was done to help Israel, it illustrates why some Americans are more than uneasy our foreign policy has been used to benefit another country at the expense of our own.

      The lasting effect of the invasion may not be known for a generation or more, certainly not before our troops leave and it can be determined the lasting effect is a stable government. In any case, GWB, Cheney and Rumsfeld lied to Americans about the reason for this war and it has damaged our country in many ways.

      Israel is not a race or religion. It is a country. Opposition to any country’s policies which negatively impact the US should be respected.

      • JulieD

        elise –

        Shimon Peres won the 1994 Nobel Peace Prize together with Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat for the peace talks which he participated in as Israeli Foreign Minister, producing the Oslo Accords.

        If Peres believes the invasion of Iraq by the US led by GWB was a great contribution to Israel and if he believes this was done to help Israel …

        Where is your source for this?

        I believe Peres was making a comparison about taking out ruthless dictators during a phone call which he may or may not have been expecting.

        Peres said to Bush, “If the world had acted against Hitler the way you acted against Saddam Hussein, the lives of millions would have been saved.” The president added, “You made a historic contribution to the entire world and to the Jewish people in particular. We will treasure this forever and will never forget it.” (Ronen Medzini)

        I’m not sure that the two were meant to be interpreted as one thought e.g.: taking out Hussein equals helping Jews.

        Maybe he meant the US War on Terror in general?

        He may have been referring to the support of the US overall.

        I don’t know though, I haven’t asked him. And apparently neither did the reporter.

        If you think that citizens including those of the US aren’t often lied to in order to get them to go to war; you’re in for more disappointment.

        • Mary

          And then Shimon Peres ABANDONED the Oslo Accords, and broke his word.

          You left that part out.

          Left out the part about the illegal settlements in Gaza and the West Bank, too.

          No surprise.

    • mountainaires

      This is the only “diplomacy” Israel knows, JulieD. It will not help Israel to become secure; and Peres may be respected, but Israel will be less respected than ever with this latest atrocity in Gaza. The horrors Israel has committed will create even bigger horrors for Israel and Jews worldwide.

      January 20, 2009

      Blind and burnt: Mahmoud, 14, young victim of banned white phosphorus shelling
      Sheera Frenkel in Cairo

      Israel’s three-week offensive in the Gaza Strip may be over but Mahmoud Mattar, 14, will not be able to sense the quiet that has descended on his home town of Jabalya.

      Blinded in both eyes, with third-degree burns over much of his torso, Mahmoud lies unconscious in the Sheikh Zayid Hospital on the outskirts of Cairo. He has said little since January 6, when an Israeli attack on his village in northern Gaza left him nearly dead on the street outside his mosque. Doctors say that he will never see again — and that the burns on his body were caused by white phosphorus, a controversial incendiary weapon that Israel originally denied using.

      “He was walking to the mosque when the attack started,” his uncle, Nahad Mattar, said. “Two of his friends who were walking with him were killed instantly. Their bodies are in pieces. He was hit by something and his body began to burn.

      “There were bits of blood and skin all over him. We couldn’t tell what was his and what was other people.”

      Witnesses in Jabalya describe thesigns of white phosphorus shelling — thick white smoke, a strong smell and fires that burn until covered with sand — and say that dozens more experienced burns in the same attack.

      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5549100.ece

  • Hot Librarian

    Larry – USA did not defeat Hitlers army ,navy & airforce in 3 years. They certainly helped . That would have been Hollywood.

    julie -Sept 29 -30 1941 Babi Yar-where over 100,000 civilians killed including Jews. This was not enough for the USA to enter . So I guess you are right -USSR was not ally of the USA

    Iraq -Time will tell..

  • califlefty

    Larry you mean you didn’t know that the role of the Israeli President is mere protocol and extending common courtesies to heads of state? Of course you did… now that makes your comment merely crazy, as it is undeserving of the batshit.

    • BernieO

      Just because a role is symbolic does not mean it is unimportant nor does it give a person license to say outrageous things. Not to mention Peres is a former prime minister so what he says is very important, just as what our former presidents say carries a lot of weight in influencing opinion. (Remember the uproar over Carter criticizing Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians?)

  • Hot Librarian

    for Julie -neither was the Million starving to death in Leningrad.

    Other countries totally distant eg Sth Africa ,Canada ,Australia & Nz were there in 39.

    But again the world thanks you 4 going -finally.

    • JulieD

      Hot Librarian –

      You’re history is way off! There was this thing called the Treaty of Non-aggression between Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, signed on August 24, 1939.

      The treaty included a secret protocol dividing Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and Romania

      into Nazi and Soviet spheres of influence.

      All were invaded, occupied, or forced to cede territory by Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, or both.

      Only Finland was able to defend herself against the Soviet invasion.

  • Mary

    Johnson, your recent articles on Israel show you for what you are, a fucking anti-Semite and ignoramus. Keep sipping the Kool aid. You and the big zero deserve each other. Drop dead, prick!

    • mountainaires

      Mary, You’re really ignorant. Moral Jews and Israelis reject the Israeli attack on Gaza. To insult them is anti-semitic.

      January 19, 2009

      Shock, Awe, and Belated Soul-Searching in Israel
      by Jerrold Kessel and Pierre Klochendler

      <blockquote>”Israel has become a country riven by hatred and almost as bloodthirsty as its enemies,” wrote columnist Ofer Shelach in the center-right newspaper Ma’ariv. “A country that once had the ambition, in the Biblical phrase ‘to be a light unto the nations,’ is now proud to have adopted the value system of Vladimir Putin. If that is victory, woe unto the victors!”

      http://www.antiwar.com/ips/kesskloch.php?articleid=14098

      • Mary

        Mountain and all others….

        This Mary calling you names childishly is not me.

        Anti-Zionist killing is not the same as anti-Semitism.

        We ALL know that.

        Don’t confuse the ignorant Mary with me, please.

        • mountainaires

          Mary [who is not the ignorant "Mary"], maybe you should try to find an identifier you can add to your name? I must say that if NQ is being targeted by pro-Israeli trolls or their “army of bloggers,” they’re doing a piss-poor job of representing Israel here. I haven’t seen any comments that were very persuasive. In fact, it’s hard to justify the unjustifiable, unless you lie. Slaughtering thousands–not “hundreds” as one commenter for Israel said–of innocent civilians, a third of them children, is hard to defend. I’m sure Israel will try; but no moral person could condone Israeli actions in Gaza when Israeli casualties are about a dozen, some of those killed by friendly fire.

          According to a report in Haaretz, the Immigrant Absorption Ministry is setting up “an army of bloggers” who will “represent” Israel on “anti-Zionist blogs” in English, French, Spanish and German.

          The ministry’s director-general Erez Halfon told Haaretz that over a million people who speak a second language are being targeted in a recruiting drive that will then direct the volunteers to web sites deemed “problematic.”

          http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1056648.html

          • HasItBeen4YearsYet?

            no moral person could condone Israeli actions in Gaza when Israeli casualties are about a dozen — mountainairhead the deceiteful

            What, pray tell, do the number of Israeli casualties have to do with the morality of their position? Just how “moral” is it to sacrifice your precious citizens for a cause? That’s what savages do, you know, like the Paleostinianz. It is the height of morality to PROTECT your people, and kill the enemy, which Hamas, Fatah, and all the anti-Israel scum who target civilians exclusively are.

            Stop spewing lies, and start absorbing some facts.

            • Mary

              Good grief, mountain!

              You’re being stalked by ignorant fools.

              Just ignore them.

        • HasItBeen4YearsYet?

          Anti-Zionist killing is not the same as anti-Semitism — MARY the very very maliciously ignorant

          Yes, it is anti-Semitism.

          • Mary

            I’m going to assume that you’re calling the Jewish citizens of Israel who are AGAINST the Gaza slaughter, anti-Semites.

            You sound stupid enough to not even understand that’s what you’re doing.

            FOOL.

            • HasItBeen4YearsYet?

              NO, MARY, THE JEWS AGAINST THE “SLAUGHTER,” WHICH IS PRIMARIALY A SLAUGHTER OF HAMAS ANIMALS, ARE THE FOOLS, LIKE YOU.

              Israel does far too much to avoid killing “civilians” who, if they are that close to the terrorists, probably really aren’t civilians. You base your ignorant rant on your hatred built on misinformation, not on facts.

      • HasItBeen4YearsYet?

        That’s just the recycled “Jews are as bad as Nazis, who weren’t really that bad, except when we want to compare the Jews to them.” meme.

        If Israel were even a tenth as bloodthirsty as those Arabs, there wouldn’t be any left.

        Any civilian casualties are the fault of the Paleostinkianz themselves, who are committing the war crime of PERFIDY (look it up) by using civilian combatants, staging attacks from civilian areas, i.e., using civilians as human shields. They, not Israel, are responsible for any civilian casualties, which, if Israel weren’t amazingly careful to avoid, would be a lot more numerous than they are.

        • Mary

          I agree with the Turkish Prime Minister: Israel should be subject to an arms embargo.

  • kenoshamarge

    Oh my goodness Mary, how dare anyone, anywhere say anything that isn’t positive about Israel. If they do, then they are anti-Semite.

    And you, dear Mary, are more like the big O and his Obots than Larry. They call anyone that doesn’t worship at his feet “racist”. You call anyone that doesn’t support Israel 100% “anti-Semite”. You and the Obots deserve each other. You both evidently believe the ends justifies the means.

    “Drop dead prick”? Such anger. Why not go to Israel and join the army where you can take that anger out on some innocent women and children?

  • Jan

    A friend of mine used to go canoeing at the Lincoln Park Lagoon, in Chicago.

    She would tell stories of the dirty water, illustrating the point by saying, “fish jumped from the pond yelping “help me, help me.”

    Somehow, when I watch Peres, I’m reminded of that story.

  • mountainaires

    A very interesting historical view of Israel’s disastrous, self-defeating strategy:

    Commentary No. 249, Jan. 15, 2009

    “Chronicle of a Suicide Foretold: The Case of Israel”

    Israel has now entered into a phase of the precipitate decline of its strategy. It may be too late for Israel to pursue any alternative strategy, in which case it will have committed geopolitical suicide.

    [...]

    Now, Israel has invaded Gaza, seeking to destroy Hamas. If it succeeds, what organization will come next? If, as is more probable, it fails to destroy Hamas, is a two-state solution now possible? Both Palestinian and world public opinion is moving towards the one-state solution. And this is of course the end of the Zionist project.

    The three-element strategy of Israel is decomposing. The iron fist no longer succeeds, much as it didn’t for George Bush in Iraq. Will the United States link remain firm? I doubt it. And will world public opinion continue to look sympathetically on Israel? It seems not. Can Israel now switch to an alternative strategy, of negotiating with the militant representatives of the Arab Palestinians, as an integral constituent of the Middle East, and not as an outpost of Europe? It seems quite late for that, quite possibly too late. Hence, the chronicle of a suicide foretold.

    by Immanuel Wallerstein

    http://www.binghamton.edu/fbc/commentr.htm

    • Phantom Dick

      Now, Israel has invaded Gaza, seeking to destroy Hamas. If it succeeds, what organization will come next? If, as is more probable, it fails to destroy Hamas, is a two-state solution now possible? Both Palestinian and world public opinion is moving towards the one-state solution. And this is of course the end of the Zionist project.

      I agree, and I think this will be the ultimate outcome, one state.

  • HasItBeen4YearsYet?

    “Shimon Peres is Batshit Crazy”

    Duh! Please tell me you are not just now discovering that!

    • Phantom Dick

      Cheney and Bush, the American neocons seemed to miss it…

      And, unlike the public, they were supposed to know better.

      Those PR techniques DO have their limits, though, don’t they?

      Especially when those in charge aren’t really smart, at all.

      • Mary

        Americans have thrown the neocons out of office as the liars that they are.

        While I may have wished Hillary Clinton was the one taking the oath, today, I can be satisfied that my countrymen have seen through the “PR techniques” that the American and Israeli neocons used to mislead us all.

        Let us all pray Netanyahu does not win in February, or we’ll be lied into more wars that benefit Israel alone.

        Shimon Perez is Batshit Crazy.

        Yes, he is.

        So is Benjamin Netanyahu.

        • HasItBeen4YearsYet?

          “Americans have thrown the neocons out of office as the liars that they are.” — Mary

          You are delusional. Name one lie they’ve told, and back it up with legitimate references, not Leftist bullspit. Just repeating the same old lie doesn’t make it any truer, though you unfortunately do fool more people.

          You are right about one thing, that Netanyahu is no better than Peres, but not for the reasons you have. It’s because he is also a fool when it comes to giving away Jewish Land to lying, thieving, murderous ghouls, not because he would dream of properly defending us against them.

          And soon Barack HUSSEIN O’Bunko will prove himself to be at least just as BSC as they are, if not a whole lot more so. Of course with bat quano for brains, the Lefties won’t even notice.

          • Mary

            Netanyahu is the Israeli neocon who supplied Bush/Cheney/Feith most of the false, manipulated intel used to take us into Iraq, darlin.

            The new administration knows that, now, and so do most Americans.

            We won’t be manipulated again.

            You don’t read much, do ya?

            Try googling “A Clean Break,” written for Netanyahu in 1996.

          • Mary

            The big lie: Saddam Hussein was “in cahoots” with Osama bin Laden.

            Even the Senate report proved the intel was cherry-picked and exaggerated.

            Hussein had NOTHING to do with 9-11.

            Anyway, the neocons are shamed and rejected by America now. They are finished, as lying fools.

            Netanyahu will not be able to manipulate America into another unnecessary war.

            Thank you, America.

          • Mary

            What Jewish land?

            The land Israel agreed belonged to Palestinians in the West Bank?

            The land they occupy ILLEGALLY?

            Righty-O, dear. LOL

            • HasItBeen4YearsYet?

              WHAT PART OF “Name one lie they’ve told, and back it up with legitimate references, not Leftist bullspit.” DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND?

              You can’t, so you continue to spread your Leftist bat-guano.

  • rayve

    The Israeli people keep recycling the same BSC leaders year after year. Reminds me of our own recycled BSC politicians. Neither country has benefitted from the practice.

    The curtain has been pulled back on the Israel/Palestinian struggle, and the people the world over are tired of the same red flag being thrown to deflect criticism of the heavily armed Israeli government and army. It takes a long time for the world to acknowledge some injustices, but usually, in the end, it does.
    Unfortunately, untold numbers of innocent people suffer and die before that acknowledgment.

  • HasItBeen4YearsYet?

    WHERE’S MY REPLY TO RAYVE?

    • JulieD

      Why don’t the Jews just accept suicide bombings and rocket and mortar fire aimed at their kids as a fact of life? They should get over it already!

      What were you thinking? That a Nobel Peace Prize winner wasn’t “batshit crazy”?!

      That the US might actually know what it is doing?

      How dare you!!

      Next you’ll be saluting the flag.

      • Mary

        There will be war crimes investigations this time, Julie.

        UN volunteers were killed, while the UN flag waved on their building and the aid trucks they drove.

        War crimes investigations.

      • mountainaires

        JulieD, you are batshit crazy yourself. Do you know what the numbers are of fatalities on both sides? Are you even aware that Israel has 1/4th the fatalities that Palestinians do? For example, you can read the statistics at B’tselem, the Israeli Human Rights organization which keeps track of the deaths on both sides. B’tselem comprised of Israelis living in the Palestinian Territories. They manage to live among the beasts, JulieD. Imagine that! It must be so hard for you–bigots like you–to even imagine it. Amira Haas has lived in Gaza for years; Sara Roy lived in Gaza for years. Both Israelis, and children of Holocaust survivors. Both reject Israeli policy. Imagine that!

        There are so many others. You might want to read Amira Haas and Sara Roy’s perspective. But, then, again, I know you won’t.

        Because, as Conquest said so aptly about people like you:

        “Not even high intelligence and a sensitive spirit are of any help once the facts of a situation are deduced from a political theory, rather than vice versa.” — Robert Conquest, author of The Great Terror, the first authority on Stalins Great Purge, 1936-1938.

        • JulieD

          mountainaires –

          You’re cheerleading for terrorists and I’m supposed to care about anything you have to blather about – seemingly endlessly? Wow, not even close.

          You can keep your burqas.

          While you and Mary CAIRe continue to dwell in the Stone Age -

          applauding using children as human shields,

          while bemoaning Israel’s military

          superiority -

          I’ll be toasting to Israel. And Shimon Peres who helped make it possible.

          Shalom.

          • Mo from Texas

            Well, no.

            Israel doesn’t have a right to murder children, or civilains just because, OUR military doesn’t do it, why does yours?

            And sooner or later, the world catches on, doesn’t it?

  • Mo from Texas

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/20/gaza-israel-ban-ki-moon

    The secretary general of the United Nations has called for a full investigation into Israel’s shelling of three of its buildings in the Gaza Strip during its three-week long assault against Hamas.

    A visibly furious Ban Ki-moon condemned as “outrageous, shocking and alarming” the destruction he had seen while touring Gaza, and described as “excessive use” of force the violence wrought by both Israel and Hamas rockets.

    And:

    In Geneva the director general of the World Health Organisation, Margaret Chan, warned of a looming health crisis among the 1.5 million Gazans. She said she was “deeply concerned” about the interruption of immunisations and other life-saving care, and the limited availability of hospital beds in Gaza

    I can just hear it now: “So we bomb the Gaza UN, what are they gonna do?”