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Senators collapse during luncheon

By SusanUnPC on January 20, 2009 at 1:45 PM in Current Affairs

(bumped down by Susan)

I’m just getting word of this. Larry called me to tell me, since he knows that my DVR is backed up an hour because I’ve been managing the blog and waiting to watch. What have you heard? I’ll check news sources. Kennedy collapses, convulsions, ABC Blog.|| Both Kennedy and Robert Byrd leave in “medical trouble.”

Anyone hear anything more?

Dawnelle

it’s cccold here today and we have snow all day so I couldn’t LEAVE To avoid the OBAMAsheville-mania

hell has officially frozen over

(chuckle)

I miss my jeep
Coupe de Groucho

Bad Omen

- Especially for the financial markets.
Chicago Joe

Teddy had a series of seizures, and was accompanied to the hospital by Dodd and Kerry, who were later noted to say that he looks like he is doing ok.

Byrd “overcome” by the events of the day. Don’t want to do any interpreting there.
Doc99

Kennedy is inexorably on the road to reunite with Mary Jo Kopechne. As for Byrd, his life has come full circle from the days of the KKK to witnessing the inauguration of a man that, in his youth, he’d be persecuting. Pretty, pretty, pretty indeed.
http://watchpaul.blogspot.com Rose

Kennedy won’t be reuniting with Mary Jo Kopechne. He’s going in the other direction. He’ll prob’ly bump into Byrd, though.
hopeful

Be very careful in your judgements. Take a close look at yourself and never pass judgement. There is only one judge. We have never walked in any shoes except our own.
eurogirl70

sorry but I do not subscribe to “one judge”. if there is a God, he/she/it/they give forgiveness. I neither pretend to be omnipotent nor non-vindictive.

When I see so many people to the right thing and live good lives and never get ahead, I am reminded of those who have had the good life for far too long.

Teddy Kennedy and Robert Byrd have great healthcare and pension plans. They are luckier than most!!
http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

I, for one, will never forget Robert Byrd’s passionate and great speeches against the pending war in Iraq. He was one of the few who foresaw what a disaster that would be and spoke very eloquently about it. Many of us published both videos and quotations from those great speeches because we knew he was right, and we were thunder-struck that people didn’t see that Bush was hellbent on going to war with Iraq, no matter what the Senate or the U.N. did.*

He’s done much good in his time and, given the geography of his upbringing and the major influences on him as a young man, it’s nearly impossible that he wouldn’t have had racist tendencies … it was all he knew. He overcame that, and serves as an example that hate-filled people can change if they but try. That’s to be lauded.

Every now and then, some racist comes by No Quarter and posts some hideous stuff. As soon as we see those comments, they’re erased or altered with a stern message, and the user is banned permanently. (Btw, if you ever see any comment that reeks of racism, sexism, homophobia, or other such pernicious attitudes, e-mail me immediately at susanunpc at gmail dot com.) Larry and I can’t catch every comment so we need your help with e-mails. Thanks.

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*(And, yes, Hillary’s vote was a problem for me, but Joe Wilson wrote a good case for why she voted as she did, given the secret intelligence she was shown but couldn’t talk about to the public. How was she to know it was mostly faked? Tough call for her. I do wish, though, that she’d apologized for her vote, but there too I see her difficulty — if she had, even more men would have seen her as a woman who couldn’t handle the military and going to war. I.e., it would have given those men yet one more reason to justify their sexist attitude towards her.)
nancy sabet

They both stabbed Hillary in the back.
beebop

I can certainly judge this: Teddy’s plan is to let Vicki take his seat and put Caroline in Hillary’s … The Kennedy mystque is gone and we are now left with the Kenndy Mistakes.
nancy sabet

amen!
Mandelay

My heart went stone cold regarding the Kennedys with their orchestrated, manipulative support of Obama (starting with Caroline’s op-ed piece and quickly followed by Teddy throwing a tantrum because HIllary had given LBJ credit for pushing through the civil rights legislation). That said, it might be enlightening to publish a list of the legislation that has been crafted and shepherded through the Senate by Edward Moore Kennedy during his long career. Much of it has had a direct impact on our lives, and much of that impact has been for our good. His flaw may be that he can be spiteful and stubborn. Who can forget his conduct in his battle with Carter over the nomination? … or his most recent derailing of Hillary’s desire to be on the Health Care committee and stay in the Senate … and his current manipulation regarding Hillary’s senate seat? He has been his own worst enemy even as he continued to work very hard in the Senate for the common good. If he passed away this day, he would leave a solid legacy of good that would rival the deeds of most Presidents. And, along with Sen. Byrd, Kennedy’s speeches in the Senate warning of the problems with a war in Iraq, were powerful stuff. He ain’t perfect. Never was. I find it difficult to forgive him for meddling in the primary process before things got rolling and opening the door to the name calling and “racist” tags that were the hallmark of last year’s primary. But he has done much good, I think. And deserves respectful concern. In any case, if there’s interest, I recommend a look at the body of legislation that bears his imprint. It’s impressive. And so is he. And so is Sen. Byrd.
Doc99

Well, don’t forget Bill saw similar intel leading to the Regime Change in Iraq Act in 1998. Pretty much everyone, including Saddam’s generals were bamboozled by al Tikriti.
I’m a Linda too

Good points.
Ringo

Many of us published both videos and quotations from those great speeches because we knew he was right, and we were thunder-struck that people didn’t see that Bush was hellbent on going to war with Iraq, no matter what the Senate or the U.N. did.*

For me, personally, this was a time of extreme turmoil, as such, it was all I could do to pick up a newspaper at the end of the day.

As I remember, I didn’t even KNOW there was another side to this issue, until later.

The great majority of well meaning people only know what they read, never thinking the press would deliberately manipulate the news at the behest of the wealthy, or the powerful.

And the reporters by and large follow script, good employees as opposed to journalists.

(Remember Blago trying to make a deal with Sam Zell to fire a critical Tribune editor? How often does this occur? Got a tough confirmation hearing? Plant something favorible through your PR guy with a WAPO columnist…and on and on.)

Perhaps that will change, slowly, as we move away from a corporate news model, again allowing true opposition and dissent.
I’m a Linda too

it seems Byrd is OK. And apparently he was just overcome with emotion seeing his good friend Kennedy take ill.

“Sen. Robert C. Byrd, 91, also left the luncheon early, but his office and others said his health was not the reason.

Byrd “is currently in his own office…and is doing fine, though he remains vcery concerned about his close friend, Ted Kennedy,” said Mark Ferrell, a spokesman for the West Virginia Democrat.”
rw

-Byrd “overcome” by the events of the day. Don’t want to do any interpreting there-

lol
Realist

Another one about to ‘bite the dust’. I see a smile crossing Mary Jo’s face in Heaven. Now, cross your fingers (America) that Caroline gets hit by that “mythical taxi”..she supposedly hails all by her lonesome. Enough of “Camelot” already! Give me a F*cking break.
What goes around

Some of you people go way beyond any reasonable definition of mean spirited. I’m glad your lot has been marginalized. Much as I dislike some on the right, I’ve never wished personal misfortune on them.
BlueTopaz

Yep, I need proof of the ONE judge. The One……….. OMG
http://gillianboardman.wordpress.com/ gregoryp

Good things should happen to good people.

Bad things should happen to bad people.

The questions really are: Who are the bad people and who are the good people? What determines that? Is someone bad because they don’t think like you? Are people who think like you actually good?

I don’t know whether or not Kennedy or Byrd are evil or not. I don’t think they are good though. I just wish that there really was a heaven and a hell so that people like them could get what is due. Whatever that may be.

Kennedy has for years been the guardian at the door keeping real health care reform from taking place. Through his actions or inactions possibly millions of Americans may have died premature deaths or suffered needlessly because they had either no access or limited access to proper health care.

Just because someone makes a frilly speech or claims they are for something doesn’t really make it so. It is their actions that tell the tale. If the Dems would have really wanted health care for all of us we’d have had it decades ago. Decades. The reality is we can’t blame those evil corporate republicans for everything. At least they tell us where they stand. If Kennedy wanted any sympathy he should have delivered just a little more.
Ringo

Many of us published both videos and quotations from those great speeches because we knew he was right, and we were thunder-struck that people didn’t see that Bush was hellbent on going to war with Iraq, no matter what the Senate or the U.N. did.*

So much of what we see on the news is simple propaganda, it takes a little while for the public to understand the reality does not match the print.
Texas Playwright

These guys need to stay home and spend the rest of their time with their families.
beebop

What a fabulous idea. Both of them have over served.
Anthony

“he was just overcome with emotion seeing his good friend Kennedy take ill.”

As I was when I saw Cheney in his wheelchair. Still smiling…..
http://www.georgianindex.net/Napoleon/coronation/coronation.html trixta

Kennedy helped thwart what could have been the first woman president of the USA. He was vicious, rude, and a cad in the way he treated Hillary (and Bill) throughout the primaries and, most recently, in the Senate when he blocked HRC from leading the charge on Health Care. And now he wants to shove the unqualified Princess Caroline down the throats of NY-ers and to prop her up for a possible run for the presidency in 2016. I’m soooo over Teddy and the rest of the Kennedys!

BTW, he also has blood on his hands when it comes to Mary Jo. How is it that he was the only one who escaped from the submerged vehical in that accident? How is it that right after the accident he swam for hours to a near-by island to report it, but didn’t bother to help her escape?
http://www.georgianindex.net/Napoleon/coronation/coronation.html trixta

Judge Judy, perhaps. Now that woman rules her domain!
http://www.georgianindex.net/Napoleon/coronation/coronation.html trixta

Sure I have. I walk in my husband’s ratty old slippers all the time.
http://www.georgianindex.net/Napoleon/coronation/coronation.html trixta

The tainted primary election–the undermining of the democratic process–is part of Teddy’s legacy. I will never forget.
Mandelay

All true. And I can’t bring myself to forget either. Last year’s actions opened my eyes and changed my heart. It’s a big, big hurt.