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		<title>By: CG</title>
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		<dc:creator>CG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to an opinion piece by David Gergen entitled &lt;em&gt;&quot;In the midst of celebration, darkening clouds&quot;&lt;/em&gt;, I found a comment I with which I could wholeheartedly agree.

JC- Los Angeles   January 22nd, 2009 4:00 pm ET

When the new President requires a do-over on the oath of office, it is anything but a smooth, smart and successful start.

Our nation has been run into the ground by the connected few who spent that last eight years looting the country without any fear of oversight.

When the nation needs a $700 billion do-over, how can Paul Volcker be considered “one of the most respected economic figures in the country?” where was he before?

When the new Treasury Secretary nominee fails to pay taxes, how is this a break from the morally bankrupt leadership of the past eight years?

When an octogenarian like Greenspan dispenses cheap money time and time again to an instant gratification, glutonous consumption society, how could none of our leaders see that this was a bad idea?

Rather than closing Guantanamo Bay, how about freeing many of the questionably detained and replacing them with our failed leadership?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to an opinion piece by David Gergen entitled <em>&#8220;In the midst of celebration, darkening clouds&#8221;</em>, I found a comment I with which I could wholeheartedly agree.</p>
<p>JC- Los Angeles   January 22nd, 2009 4:00 pm ET</p>
<p>When the new President requires a do-over on the oath of office, it is anything but a smooth, smart and successful start.</p>
<p>Our nation has been run into the ground by the connected few who spent that last eight years looting the country without any fear of oversight.</p>
<p>When the nation needs a $700 billion do-over, how can Paul Volcker be considered “one of the most respected economic figures in the country?” where was he before?</p>
<p>When the new Treasury Secretary nominee fails to pay taxes, how is this a break from the morally bankrupt leadership of the past eight years?</p>
<p>When an octogenarian like Greenspan dispenses cheap money time and time again to an instant gratification, glutonous consumption society, how could none of our leaders see that this was a bad idea?</p>
<p>Rather than closing Guantanamo Bay, how about freeing many of the questionably detained and replacing them with our failed leadership?</p>
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		<title>By: MBC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Teak, you are a gifted writer.  Thanks for what you do here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Teak, you are a gifted writer.  Thanks for what you do here!</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it does, LD.

I don&#039;t know why, but the image of an &quot;overhanging&quot; reminds me of a Road Runner cartoon with Wiley Coyote holding a box from ACME standing at the edge of the &#039;overhang&#039;...and it is starting to crack...

Road Runner is in true form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it does, LD.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why, but the image of an &#8220;overhanging&#8221; reminds me of a Road Runner cartoon with Wiley Coyote holding a box from ACME standing at the edge of the &#8216;overhang&#8217;&#8230;and it is starting to crack&#8230;</p>
<p>Road Runner is in true form.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think USA ought cut back 30% of its overseas military bases &amp; move the forces back to oversee the civilian projects . if they can &quot;build infrastructur in Iraq allegedly -they can direct it at home. 

It would be cheaper &amp; more efficient if the military did it ll &amp; civilians were paid to watch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think USA ought cut back 30% of its overseas military bases &amp; move the forces back to oversee the civilian projects . if they can &#8220;build infrastructur in Iraq allegedly -they can direct it at home. </p>
<p>It would be cheaper &amp; more efficient if the military did it ll &amp; civilians were paid to watch!</p>
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		<title>By: LD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just....that would seem to be a veiled way of saying that he plans on implementing policies to support the &quot;working&quot; people in the lower to middle class vs those who have generated &quot;wealth&quot; in the upper incomes....

How about if we ask him to merely increase taxes on the members of the &quot;lucky sperm society&quot; who were born into wealth? 

My question would be, &quot;what about the people who worked to generate wealth?&quot; Where do they fit into the equation?

In any event, I personally do not see how Obama can raise any taxes on anybody this year in light of the economy. 

However, in light of the deficit I do believe that taxes will be going up in the future. He should start by taxing those who work in hedge funds at the ordinary income level versus allowing them to put earnings into the fund and then only paying long term capital gains. Now that is a joke and has been paid for by a lot of donations from the hedge fund community to people on both sides of the aisle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just&#8230;.that would seem to be a veiled way of saying that he plans on implementing policies to support the &#8220;working&#8221; people in the lower to middle class vs those who have generated &#8220;wealth&#8221; in the upper incomes&#8230;.</p>
<p>How about if we ask him to merely increase taxes on the members of the &#8220;lucky sperm society&#8221; who were born into wealth? </p>
<p>My question would be, &#8220;what about the people who worked to generate wealth?&#8221; Where do they fit into the equation?</p>
<p>In any event, I personally do not see how Obama can raise any taxes on anybody this year in light of the economy. </p>
<p>However, in light of the deficit I do believe that taxes will be going up in the future. He should start by taxing those who work in hedge funds at the ordinary income level versus allowing them to put earnings into the fund and then only paying long term capital gains. Now that is a joke and has been paid for by a lot of donations from the hedge fund community to people on both sides of the aisle.</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LD, Please tell us what you think Pres Obama means when he says, &quot;we want to reward work not wealth&quot;. Higher taxes on dividends? interest? cap gains in general? Speaker Pelosi is demanding an immediate tax increase on high income earners &amp; it seems Obama wants to hold off. I thought tax rates for 2008 were already set, can they raise them between now &amp; this April 15th retroactively?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LD, Please tell us what you think Pres Obama means when he says, &#8220;we want to reward work not wealth&#8221;. Higher taxes on dividends? interest? cap gains in general? Speaker Pelosi is demanding an immediate tax increase on high income earners &amp; it seems Obama wants to hold off. I thought tax rates for 2008 were already set, can they raise them between now &amp; this April 15th retroactively?</p>
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		<title>By: rw</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks.
and,if possible, could you include currencies in your writings from time to time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks.<br />
and,if possible, could you include currencies in your writings from time to time.</p>
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		<title>By: getfitnow</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks LD. I&#039;m here trying to understand. You&#039;ve made that possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks LD. I&#8217;m here trying to understand. You&#8217;ve made that possible.</p>
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		<title>By: LD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teak....you&#039;re hired!! Flattery will get you everywhere. In all seriousness, I appreciate your remarks as I am trying to make &quot;sense&quot; of this madness for &quot;everyman&quot; in middle America. 

Your point about the headwinds is of MAJOR importance. Why do I say this? Simply because in the &#039;80s and early to mid 90s Wall Street was structured with a wide array of firms and fairly plain vanilla type clients. Included in those clients were: state funds, bank portfolios, mutual funds, insurance companies, money managers. The business was to a large extent fairly simple and straightforward.  

Starting in the latter part of the 90s we saw an EXPLOSION of what the street called &quot;fast money.&quot; These types of accounts were hedge funds, proprietary trading groups housed within the Wall Street investment banks, and other types of heavily levered investors (REITS, Real Estate Investment Trusts). With all due respect to many great people at these types of clients, IMO there were also plenty of enormous egos (Masters of the Universe) who thought they were smarter than everybody and smarter than the market itself. 

I am all for smart people playing the game the right way and making money. That said, there were more than a handful who were simply large egos run amok and used massive leverage to grow portfolios. These entities are now being unwound because they no longer have access to the funding needed to manage their business. What have a lot of these accounts done? They have restricted the ability of investors to redeem their money. As a result, a lot of their investments are overhanging the market. I empathise for plenty of peopel on and off Wall Street. For some of these other individuals, though, I have no empathy. 

Does that make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teak&#8230;.you&#8217;re hired!! Flattery will get you everywhere. In all seriousness, I appreciate your remarks as I am trying to make &#8220;sense&#8221; of this madness for &#8220;everyman&#8221; in middle America. </p>
<p>Your point about the headwinds is of MAJOR importance. Why do I say this? Simply because in the &#8217;80s and early to mid 90s Wall Street was structured with a wide array of firms and fairly plain vanilla type clients. Included in those clients were: state funds, bank portfolios, mutual funds, insurance companies, money managers. The business was to a large extent fairly simple and straightforward.  </p>
<p>Starting in the latter part of the 90s we saw an EXPLOSION of what the street called &#8220;fast money.&#8221; These types of accounts were hedge funds, proprietary trading groups housed within the Wall Street investment banks, and other types of heavily levered investors (REITS, Real Estate Investment Trusts). With all due respect to many great people at these types of clients, IMO there were also plenty of enormous egos (Masters of the Universe) who thought they were smarter than everybody and smarter than the market itself. </p>
<p>I am all for smart people playing the game the right way and making money. That said, there were more than a handful who were simply large egos run amok and used massive leverage to grow portfolios. These entities are now being unwound because they no longer have access to the funding needed to manage their business. What have a lot of these accounts done? They have restricted the ability of investors to redeem their money. As a result, a lot of their investments are overhanging the market. I empathise for plenty of peopel on and off Wall Street. For some of these other individuals, though, I have no empathy. </p>
<p>Does that make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a very gifted author LD. It is not an easy thing to &quot;translate&quot; your many years of experience into a sentence stucture that is easly understood by people of varying degrees of financial &quot;awareness&quot;.

Thanks.

To your point of retaining humility;

I am am wondering about the level of market speculation and its impact. In the last 4 years it has been a Wild Wild West. With the current scenario, I am wondering how much of a head wind it will create for creating stability in in the financial markets, or is this much of a concern?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a very gifted author LD. It is not an easy thing to &#8220;translate&#8221; your many years of experience into a sentence stucture that is easly understood by people of varying degrees of financial &#8220;awareness&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>To your point of retaining humility;</p>
<p>I am am wondering about the level of market speculation and its impact. In the last 4 years it has been a Wild Wild West. With the current scenario, I am wondering how much of a head wind it will create for creating stability in in the financial markets, or is this much of a concern?</p>
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		<title>By: CG</title>
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		<dc:creator>CG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/22/in-the-midst-of-celebration-darkening-clouds/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/22/in-the-midst-of-celebration-darkening-clouds/" rel="nofollow">http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/22/in-the-midst-of-celebration-darkening-clouds/</a></p>
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		<title>By: LD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynic....I shoudl have been more explicit in stating that longer term interest rates (5yrs on out) have been moving up. 

As I mentioned to another reader I do think that CDs will gradually start to move higher later this year as bank demand for cash continues to grow even greater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynic&#8230;.I shoudl have been more explicit in stating that longer term interest rates (5yrs on out) have been moving up. </p>
<p>As I mentioned to another reader I do think that CDs will gradually start to move higher later this year as bank demand for cash continues to grow even greater.</p>
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		<title>By: LD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my estimation. The dollar will continue to outperform the pound but will EVENTUALLY underperform the euro. I believe that simply given the size of the deficits here in the U.S. and the likelihood that the Europeans will raise rates quicker to stave off incipient inflation in 2010 and beyond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my estimation. The dollar will continue to outperform the pound but will EVENTUALLY underperform the euro. I believe that simply given the size of the deficits here in the U.S. and the likelihood that the Europeans will raise rates quicker to stave off incipient inflation in 2010 and beyond.</p>
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		<title>By: rw</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, JD.
Could you give a quick forward look on currencies, dollar vs euro 
dollar vs pound</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, JD.<br />
Could you give a quick forward look on currencies, dollar vs euro<br />
dollar vs pound</p>
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		<title>By: LD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just...

While longer term rates are starting to rise and IMO will continue to rise, the very shortest term rates (1 mo, 3mo, 1yr) rates will likely stay low for a longer period (remember how the Federal Reserve indicated that they would leave the Fed Funds overnight rate at 0-.25% for an &quot;extended&quot; period. 

CDs are a bit of a mixed bag. They are typically shorter term although some CDS do go out to 5yrs. 

As shorter term instruments they are more tied to the short end of the yield (Tsy interest rate) curve. The other factor at work, though, is that banks are going to have increasing needs for cash. That need will likely start to push up rates on some CDs. I thnk that as we go through the year you will see rates slowly but surely move higher as the banks cash needs grow. 

Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just&#8230;</p>
<p>While longer term rates are starting to rise and IMO will continue to rise, the very shortest term rates (1 mo, 3mo, 1yr) rates will likely stay low for a longer period (remember how the Federal Reserve indicated that they would leave the Fed Funds overnight rate at 0-.25% for an &#8220;extended&#8221; period. </p>
<p>CDs are a bit of a mixed bag. They are typically shorter term although some CDS do go out to 5yrs. </p>
<p>As shorter term instruments they are more tied to the short end of the yield (Tsy interest rate) curve. The other factor at work, though, is that banks are going to have increasing needs for cash. That need will likely start to push up rates on some CDs. I thnk that as we go through the year you will see rates slowly but surely move higher as the banks cash needs grow. </p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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