Comments on: Larry Johnson appears on CNN to discuss torture and consequences http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/ Thu, 24 May 2012 06:40:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Wisewoman http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1125059 Wisewoman Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:38:35 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1125059 Can you provide e-mail. Although I will search for it I would have responded pronto. Can you provide e-mail. Although I will search for it I would have responded pronto.

]]> By: truthtelling007 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1124580 truthtelling007 Fri, 23 Jan 2009 08:41:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1124580 And in case Susan gets to this later, the link for the second video has been updated to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra9UA40aB3I I don't know why the other cut off, but here you go. And in case Susan gets to this later, the link for the second video has been updated to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra9UA40aB3I

I don’t know why the other cut off, but here you go.

]]> By: rickrickrick http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1124561 rickrickrick Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:21:10 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1124561 I'm guessing you didn't lose anyone close to you in the wars or 9/11? Time will tell and it would be great if you are right. Somehow I think the 72 virgins calling says we will see more harm to come to our country. I’m guessing you didn’t lose anyone close to you in the wars or 9/11?

Time will tell and it would be great if you are right. Somehow I think the 72 virgins calling says we will see more harm to come to our country.

]]> By: rickrickrick http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1124553 rickrickrick Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:09:02 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1124553 Put your ass out there and let those nutjobs torture you. I'm sure you will very quickly take a different position. Its very easy to make the comments you do from the safety that has been provided in the past 8 years. As I said earlier I don't believe in Torture but you are dealing with people who's only value of life is to die a martyr after killing others. Wake the fuck up and accept the fact that the playing field is not even. Put your ass out there and let those nutjobs torture you. I’m sure you will very quickly take a different position. Its very easy to make the comments you do from the safety that has been provided in the past 8 years. As I said earlier I don’t believe in Torture but you are dealing with people who’s only value of life is to die a martyr after killing others. Wake the fuck up and accept the fact that the playing field is not even.

]]> By: Strawberrybitch http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1124479 Strawberrybitch Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:40:56 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1124479 Now that's torture. Now that’s torture.

]]> By: standard http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1124473 standard Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:36:03 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1124473 Everybody email CNN and praise Larry. At Daily Kos, there was a post inviting everyone to complain about him. Everybody email CNN and praise Larry.
At Daily Kos, there was a post inviting everyone to complain about him.

]]> By: truthtelling007 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1124460 truthtelling007 Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:22:11 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1124460 But I thought Jack Bauer was the paradigm for all intel talk. I mean, if he can stand up to the Senate and say, "yeah I tortured" then that must be enough, right? Glen Beck thought so on FoxNews morning show. But I thought Jack Bauer was the paradigm for all intel talk. I mean, if he can stand up to the Senate and say, “yeah I tortured” then that must be enough, right?

Glen Beck thought so on FoxNews morning show.

]]> By: truthtelling007 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1124459 truthtelling007 Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:18:43 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1124459 Exactly Strawberry, well said. Keith's argument has been over used by torture advocates to excuse torture, "but we do this to our own troops". Exactly Strawberry, well said.
Keith’s argument has been over used by torture advocates to excuse torture, “but we do this to our own troops”.

]]> By: Strawberrybitch http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1124451 Strawberrybitch Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:12:23 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1124451 Truth, that's why we need people with actual combat military and intelligence experience discuss such matters...watching 24 or James Bond movies doesn't count. Truth, that’s why we need people with actual combat military and intelligence experience discuss such matters…watching 24 or James Bond movies doesn’t count.

]]> By: truthtelling007 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1124449 truthtelling007 Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:10:33 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1124449 You mean that you were trained to endure torture. There is a key difference between training to endure something, and then authorizing such actions. Russian soldiers go through extremely intense endurance, that doesn't mean what is done to them to help them survive should be used as an interrogation technique. "wish you guys would get real"? And how do you define real, Keith? Does real mean, agree with your world view? You mean that you were trained to endure torture. There is a key difference between training to endure something, and then authorizing such actions.

Russian soldiers go through extremely intense endurance, that doesn’t mean what is done to them to help them survive should be used as an interrogation technique.

“wish you guys would get real”?

And how do you define real, Keith? Does real mean, agree with your world view?

]]> By: Peggy Sue http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1124446 Peggy Sue Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:09:58 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1124446 I'm glad Gitmo will close and that the United States government has finally said: no torture allowed. I absolutely cringed listening to Cheney insist that waterboarding isn't/wasn't torture. This is not who we are or ever wanted to be. Close the detention center, run the bad guys through the justice system. But get rid of the nightmare. But we cannot make excuses for torture, ever. Because if we do, we're no better than those we consider the enemy. And then, they've won. Larry, I'm sorry I missed the airing on this. Good clip! I’m glad Gitmo will close and that the United States government has finally said: no torture allowed. I absolutely cringed listening to Cheney insist that waterboarding isn’t/wasn’t torture.

This is not who we are or ever wanted to be. Close the detention center, run the bad guys through the justice system. But get rid of the nightmare.

But we cannot make excuses for torture, ever. Because if we do, we’re no better than those we consider the enemy. And then, they’ve won.

Larry, I’m sorry I missed the airing on this. Good clip!

]]> By: Strawberrybitch http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1124445 Strawberrybitch Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:08:10 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1124445 Keith, you still knew it was TRAINING!!!! You knew deep in your heart, they wouldn't, couldn't do permanent damage to you. You were a very expensive investment. Couldn't have you get disabled or quit. It's different when you are truly in enemy hands. (PS military family here.) Keith, you still knew it was TRAINING!!!! You knew deep in your heart, they wouldn’t, couldn’t do permanent damage to you. You were a very expensive investment. Couldn’t have you get disabled or quit. It’s different when you are truly in enemy hands. (PS military family here.)

]]> By: Keith http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1124439 Keith Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:00:26 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1124439 As one of your regulars, I must tell you that I went through SERE training in 1969 at Warner Springs, CA, and guess what? I was tortured! Now, as I was a surfer, and accustomed to being under water for periods of time, I only found it disconserting. If I had been an Arab, who had never even seen a swimming pool, let alone a bath tub, it might have been worse. I might have gagged and gotten wet. I do so wish you guys would get real. Yours Keith As one of your regulars, I must tell you that I went through SERE training in 1969 at Warner Springs, CA, and guess what? I was tortured! Now, as I was a surfer, and accustomed to being under water for periods of time, I only found it disconserting. If I had been an Arab, who had never even seen a swimming pool, let alone a bath tub, it might have been worse. I might have gagged and gotten wet. I do so wish you guys would get real. Yours Keith

]]> By: truthtelling007 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1124433 truthtelling007 Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:54:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1124433 Khmer Rouge. Khmer Rouge.

]]> By: truthtelling007 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12000/larry-johnson-on-cnn-discussing-torture-and-consequences/#comment-1124425 truthtelling007 Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:49:02 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12000#comment-1124425 Strawberry, He may not have to be lowered much. It doesn't take a genius to want to resort to the most disgraceful tactics. It doesn't take a genius to talk and act like a brute. And it certainly doesn't take a genius to constantly throw down 9/11 as a response to justify horrendous actions. Hitler used the burning of the Reichstag to justify his invasions. Doesn't take much of a genius to scare people. And last, it doesn't take much genius to resist listening to fear talk, like above, and use basic common sense. Strawberry, He may not have to be lowered much.

It doesn’t take a genius to want to resort to the most disgraceful tactics. It doesn’t take a genius to talk and act like a brute.

And it certainly doesn’t take a genius to constantly throw down 9/11 as a response to justify horrendous actions.

Hitler used the burning of the Reichstag to justify his invasions.

Doesn’t take much of a genius to scare people. And last, it doesn’t take much genius to resist listening to fear talk, like above, and use basic common sense.

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