This ‘Toon Says It All * Open Thread

I’m glad that someone will track his promises, but I think they missed two big broken ones from the campaign: public campaign financing and FISA.

Do not expect the foreign media to go soft on Obama, lol.

Barack Obama picks a fight with Rush Limbaugh as bipartisan spirit crumbles
Barack Obama is on a collision course with his critics after picking a fight with Rush Limbaugh, America’s most influential conservative commentator.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4331839/Barack-Obama-picks-a-fight-with-Rush-Limbaugh-as-bipartisan-spirit-crumbles.html

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Barack Obama inauguration: this Emperor has no clothes, it will all end in tears

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/gerald_warner/blog/2009/01/20/barack_obama_inauguration_this_emperor_has_no_clothes_it_will_all_end_in_tears

“he follows through and doesn’t, as some suspect, leave it to Congress, which will take far too long.”
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It’s not some suspect, Obama said it himself during the John King interview on 1/16/09.
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KING: You will have the power at the end of that parade to, at the stroke of a pen, lift the federal ban on embryonic stem cell research. There may be the votes to do it in Congress now, but you don’t have to wait, you could do it in your first few minutes in office, will you?
OBAMA: Well, if we can do something legislative then I usually prefer a legislative process because those are the people’s representatives. And I think that on embryonic stem cell research, the fact that you have a bipartisan support around that issue, the fact that you have Republicans like Orrin Hatch who are fierce opponents of abortion and yet recognize that there is a moral and ethical mechanism to ensure that people with Parkinson’s disease and Alzheimer’s can actually find potentially some hope out there, you know, I think that sends a powerful message.
So we’re still examining what things we’ll do through executive order. But I like the idea of the American people’s representatives expressing their views on an issue like this.

Oh, and BTW, I am looking for contributors to my blog – which (when relaunched) will be focusing on exposing sexism and working towards gender parity in government:

http://hillaryorbust.com/2009/01/writers-wanted/

Thank you!

Looking forward to reading your blog. Thanks for the heads up… I have you book marked.:)

I agree, these should be on the list. In fact can we get these myriad promises weighted appropriately? Saying you will filibuster FISA and then signing it is much worse than saying you promise not to smoke a pack a day, and then doing so.

Matthews: Palin’s book will do well “if she can read”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17873.html

wow, that nails it don’t it!

and too bad there are people in corporate america who also fall for this and hire people who aren’t qualified because they made the interviewer feel good.

I hope Matthews gets a big dose of karma soon.

I don’t know how anyone can stand watching him. I never liked him even before the election. That horrid, whiny voice of his.

Thanks for sharing this – as you can see, there will sadly be a lot of stuff to cover.

To me, the saddest fact of all is that Obama does NOT want to see a woman become president for at least EIGHT MORE YEARS (he’s already organizing his re-elction teams)…… That means not until the year 2016, which will be 240 years of “men only-no women need apply” Presidencies in the United States of America. How depressing, especially for us older women.

Thank God, here in NY, we just avoided getting Heiress Kennedy as our Senator.

Kirsten Gillibrand wasn’t my first choice, but I heard her speak, and she is fantastic.
She was Hillary’s pick for her Senate Seat – so she has to be superhuman.
I believe she will move toward the left and is destined for a presidential run in 8 years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/nyregion/24gillibrand.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&src=cnbc

OPEN THREAD:

I almost missed this…good thing I don’t rely on msm or else I would have missed this story…

http://loudobbs.tv.cnn.com/
January 23, 2009
Outrage Over Reich’s Ridiculous Comments
Lou Dobbs posted this on his website. Watch the video that is embedded on this link.
As per Lou Dobbs:

Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich on Wednesday, January 7 testified before the House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee. And he made some of the most ridiculous comments I have seen in quite some time. Reich injected group and identity economics into group and identity politics by arguing that federal stimulus money be allocated not by the basis of skill, but by something else entirely. You may not have heard about this, because every single mainstream media reporter missed the story. And that is unacceptable.

Also, check out Michelle Malkin blog on same topic…

Robert Reich: Keep stimulus money away from skilled workers and “white male construction workers”By Michelle Malkin • January 22, 2009 05:01

EXCERPT:

Even more noteworthy, however, were the comments Reich made about which workers deserve the stimulus bucks most. Reich’s proposal exposes the lie that the Obama administration is actually interested in revitalizing basic infrastructure for the good of the economy. No, what Team Obama really wants is to ensure that the least skilled, least qualified workers get jobs based on their chromosomes and pigment.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/22/robert-reich-keep-stimulus-money-away-from-skilled-workers-and-white-male-contractors/

New Video! IMPEACH OBAMA!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKwpvfaLIqg

Matthews needs some serious meds…he must have some type of “mommy complex”…..

thanks, I’ll boookmark you too….

Obama is our pilot in the cockpit. He is flying blind without instruments. To Make it through this flight of 4 years we will need plenty of cocktails. A nice buxom flight attendant will help relieve our sorrows when flying over these turbulent waters. Our luggage has been stolen by Barney Frank and his friends Freddy and Fannie. We will have to buy it back on eBay.

I have got my vomit bag ready if the pilot comes on the intercom and says “Hope and Change” on more time.

The media is in the control tower telling Obama what to do next. “Grab that thing between your legs and pull up, your nose cone is pointing the wrong way.”

Yikes

Yes, if you are a responsible citizen, or an entrepreneur… expect nothing from the government except higher taxes and a hard time. If you are irresponsible in your personal life and want to rely on handouts… you have a new best friend in Washington. It’s like that fable about the ant and the grasshopper… the ant worked hard and planned… while the grasshopper played all summer. In the original fable the grasshopper had a hard winter. In this fable… the government will punish hard work and planning and will encourage “grasshoppers”. Grasshoppers make a captive electorate. Like the man said… “I won”.

OT – looks like Franken is getting screwed
http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/38147149.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUF

Good website. Thanks for linking it Susan.

In all fairness to President Obama he has only served 4 full days in his term (out of 1460). That’s 0.27% of his term. I think I’ll wait for the first 100 days to come and go and check that site again. That will give us a more accurate read of how his administration will govern.

So far his score is 2-1 (in my book). I think he deserves major kudos for Guantanemo and Women’s Reproductive rights worldwide, and some criticism for going against his own policy regarding hiring lobbyist (Deputy Sec DoD if former lobbyist for Ratheyon).

The politifact Obamameter omits promises that he breaks. HIt doesn’t have his broken promise on campaign finance. It doesn’t list his promise not to hire lobbyists, which he broke this week with the Deputy Secretary of Defense nominee.

How about bombing Pakistan using drones? Pakistan is asking Obama to please stop. Civilians are getting killed and it may be stirring up even more terrorist activity. PS Raytheon is trying to sell their newest version of their unmanned aerial vehicle The Killer Bee (thanks Teakwood) to the military. Do you believe in coincidences?

This is what flabbergasts me. So many people here pine to have a woman president just to have a woman president, and they aren’t ashamed to say so, and they aren’t criticized for thinking that way… and yet some here will accuse Obama voters of doing so only because of his skin color.

Identity politics is a form of modern insanity, if you ask me.

Recounts are only lawful if it helps Democrats. Once the Democrat gets more votes all disputes should stop and the winner should be declared without further review by the officials. Its called the fairness doctrine.

Good point UBM!
I do think Hillary was the best candidate, but Obama to his credit is good at bringing qualified people together..For that I thank him for his centrist appointments especially Hillary at the state department.
I must admit that I’m guilty of promoting women and long for the day when one can become president.
I’m willing to back women candidates the same as you and others backed Obama with his obvious lack of experience.
My support of Women candidates goes only so far. Caroline for example was woefully unsuited for the position. Kirsten is a great choice and even believe that Patterson has shown that he could be a great president.
I guess we all have our agendas…When given the opportunity I will support and promote a woman candidate as I believe it’s well past time for them to help lead this country and the world.

At what point will they grade his promise to have a more transparent administration? This is a more subjective measure, but it would seem he has failed to date. Sec Gates has taken responsibility for the selection of William Lynn, but Raytheon has a new $18mil contract with the Pentagon which was announced before Lynn liquidated his stock and no one asked if he retained his options. Besides, this whole thing is a deception since Obama is the one to say yes or no and it’s not possible they couldn’t have found a qualified candidate without lobbying connections to the military industry. When Press Sec Gibbs was asked if there would be other “exceptions” he said yes, but wouldn’t name them. The press was shut out of the re-do on the oath. There has been no comment on the attack on Pakistan and was this decision made after consulting with Petraeus or did the general make the decision on his own? I wonder if the transparency extends to the congress? They aren’t being forthcoming about the actual numbers in the stimulus or where the money is going.

Thank you elise! I didn’t know about Raytheon’s new contract. I wish you’d send this to Larry, this needs to be a diary. You should write it.

I guess their new weapon was a great success. In today’s world defense contractors can just test it on real people.
I wonder if there was any alqueda in that camp…Just asking

I can’t stand Franken — nor the other guy.

But that’s not the point — COUNT ALL THE DAMNED VOTES — EVERY SINGLE VOTE — COUNT THE VOTES.

Either a dumb Democrat or a dumb GOP — it really doesn’t matter.

It just hit me again.

This bleeding-heart Bay Area liberal hates the Democrat Party. Notice I didn’t say Democratic, because it ain’t.

Actually it’s a big weight off my shoulders. I don’t have to feel guilty that Bush lowered my taxes.

And like the woman in the YT video said, Obama will take care of her mortgage and car payment, so I can stop worrying about that and vote no on any state assistance programs.

I don’t feel the need to be politically correct anymore. I say exactly what I want without taking others’ political or social philosophy into account. Heck, they’re probably Obama supporters anyway, so eff ‘em.

Yeah, it’s all good; if you don’t mind having the American Idol as our president.

NOPE — there are no coincidences — especially with Obama involved — and we still don’t know the source of his campaign funds. WHO owns Obama?

Either a dumb Democrat or a dumb GOP — it really doesn’t matter.

Both of them look like Stuart Smalley to me

I’m more than willing to vote for women candidates, SM… but why do you “long for the day” when we have a woman president? What difference would it possibly make?

I believe there was but it also took out some innocents. But that’s not my point SM. I just want to hear the Obots spin this one. Obama was supposed to bring an end to all wars, cure the sick, make the blind see, feed the starving masses. Not enrich defense contractors. What’s next, bail out the poor insurance companies and drug companies?

I guess it would satisfy an injustice the same that many obama supporters thought by voting for a black candidate.
I just think it would be neat to see it happen someday.

Exactly!!

I can see Franken giving a Senate speech — in character.

Right on Straw!
I remember talking to an obot that originally was against Hillary and then McCain because she thought they were warmongers.
In fact this person was so whacked she wanted and believed that Obama would bring the troops home immediately and that the US should be punished for war crimes. She even said that we deserved to be attacked again and that we have no right to interfere anywhere in the world and that Iran had the right to have nukes and control the middle east.
I wonder what she is thinking now that we are starting the first steps of a greater regional war with Pakistan

^ I should add: I never “longed for the day” when a black man would be president. I figured it’d happen one day, but I wasn’t pining for it.

You get flabbergasted too easily, UBM. I can’t speak for her other supporters, but I began the primary with an open mind and would have been happy to see her or Obama win the nomination. I watched all twenty debates, but I made up my mind after the first PA. Go back and watch it as I did not long ago. It was clear to me she was far superior in her understanding of the issues and in that debate, moderated by Chris Mathews and Tim Russert, it was clear they were covering for him and asking everyone down the line questions about Hillary. “Joe Biden”, says Mr Russert, “you have said Sen. Clinton is a polarizing figure. Do you stand by that statement?” “Sen. Edwards”, says Mathews, “your wife has said she doesn’t like Hillary and doesn’t think she can win. Is that your opinion.” Sen Obama, You’re not that bad, Hillary. And, of course, there was a question for Chris Dodd and Gravel. It became personal for me when her husbands infidelity was brought up. I’m not ashamed to say I wanted this woman to win. At some point, Mr UBM, I realized if this extraordinary, compassionate and qualified former First Lady and Senator could be treated with this much disrespect, there will never be a woman president in this country. So Mr UWM, since you prefer to vote for someone because he’s black and has gonads, don’t try to take the moral high ground because you’ll end up in quicksand.

I mentioned it to an Obot today…he blamed it on Bush. They have no idea how the military works. Obama was briefed, he knew about it and had to okay it. He is the new CIC. He just wants the military to take the blame if things go wrong.

But see, Seattle, that’s the kind of identity politics I object to. I don’t see it as an “injustice” that we’ve never had a female president. That cheapens the concept of justice.

We had an American Indian vice president under Herbert Hoover. Did that have anything to do with “justice”? Nope.

Looking around the world, we see that women that are capable of leading a modern nation-state. That doesn’t need to be proven… not to me.

Now it’s all about the right person at the right time. (Which Hillary wasn’t, IMO… due to nationwide Clinton fatigue.)

UBM…I’m not pining dude!
I do believe that the world has gone to crap and maybe it’s time to let the women have a go at it..
Having said that I was surprised and happy for all those that longed for the day that The One would reveal himself to the world. The masses and their adoration was just breathtaking and scary to be honest.
I know that a lot of people are down and out and are putting their heart and soul on the expectation that obama will be great and can change their lives.

I hope he can….

I agree there WAS Clinton fatigue but that is going to change now. Towards the end of the campaign Hillary came on strong and became her own person. Obama barely made it over the finish line and if it wasn’t for the collapse of the economy who knows if he had won.
At this point that is irrelevant..

What is sweet for me is the fact that Hillary is a rising star and will light the world on fire and here at home erasing any future fatigue.

I guess I’m forever a Clinton fan

You know — you are really amazing, UBM. You skew the real argument every time.

You know damned good and well that Hillary has amazing qualifications to be president and that is why we backed her. When Carolyn Kennedy’s name came up to replace Hillary in her Senate seat, we spoke up loud and long and said no way — BECAUSE she is not qualified.

I love my country and want someone qualified leading it. I have no time for a trainee or a shape shifter who does everything for political expedience.

If Hillary wasn’t hands and feet above everybody else, I wouldn’t have been so furious that the DNC was pushing him. And well you know it.

I’d like to see a woman president because it is very clear that women are just as able to do the job and yet are treated to a different standard — otherwise known as a crap sandwich.

And according to your statement above, let me turn it back on you — why do YOU long for a black president — what difference could THAT possibly make?

If you don’t have anything better to offer than “Clinton fatigue” wave your white flag. Go back and check Bill Clinton’s approval ratings when he left the White House and check out the Gallop Poll for “Most Admired Woman in the World” from 1993-2004. Hillary lost one time to Mother Teresa. If identity politics is what you object to, change your username.

If identity politics is what you object to, change your username.

Gosh..I wish I had come up with that first!

Great response, Ani.

Ani, I just got through saying I never have longed for a black president.

I’m more than willing to vote for women candidates, SM… but why do you “long for the day

I long for the day when women are treated as equals and sexism and misogyny that we saw against Hillary and the double standard is erased.
I know you can’t figure out why a guy like me would want that but I guess it boils down to who is most qualified.
I have experienced this personally..By hiring the best qualified to run my production plant I’m in a much better position than my competition to weather this storm. That person happened to be a woman, best qualified and the first in my industry..
Hiring women for top positions…Smart!!

If the general has taken it upon himself to make strikes into a soverign country without the permission of the president, he should be replaced, don’t you think so Strawberry? Since everyone pretty much agrees Pakistan is a dangerous problems for the US, it would pay to think things through before military action.

LOL, thanks for the laugh, Winston. However, I fear that Obama’s Chicago inner circle (Axelrod/Jarrett) are the ones who will really have his Ear.

I think Obama’s lack of a work ethic is what worries me the most about him. He has spent his entire career raising money and running for the next higher office. Obama is definitely a “show horse” (while HRC is a work horse).

I recall a few times during the primaries when, after a few weeks of campaigning, Obama would appear tired and exasperated with the whole thing – and he would then become very gaffe prone. One can’t help but wonder how he’ll deal with the pressures of the presidency. He’s admitted in the past that he’s very disorganized, and would lose an important piece of paper unless someone helped him keep things straight.

Obama is a “figurehead” type of leader, who will delegate most everything and take frequent vacations. As we’ve already seen, his own press conferences will be tightly controlled and scripted.

Obama’s worst fear right now is the GOP storming back and retaking Congress in 2010 . . . thereby getting that all-important subpoena power. If that happens (like Clinton in 1994), we can expect a special prosecutor every time he sneezes.

I have to agree with Obama on this one. (Unusual for me.) There is bipartisan support for this so it should be law so that it will be much harder to undo in future administrations. A lot of anti-abortion Republicans support stem cell research. Some (I think Hatch) say they believe an fertilized egg is not a person until it is implanted, but once that happens you have a full-fledged human being. (I keep wondering if these guys think an acorn is an oak tree, but I digress.)

Well said. While some women may have supported HC simply because she is a woman, the majority supported her because she is qualified. Being a woman was just icing on the cake. BTW, 95% of women did not support HC as opposed to 95% of blacks supporting BO. Double standard and as usual men take that attitude that women don’t have enough sense to make a rational decision.

exactly…Dem’s reward irresponsible behavior.

UBM, this is wholly untrue:

So many people here pine to have a woman president just to have a woman president, and they aren’t ashamed to say so, and they aren’t criticized for thinking that way

I don’t know how many articles we published in opposition to Caroline Kennedy’s appointment to the U.S. Senate but there were at least six. We didn’t care if she was white or black, female or male. And I never gave a thought to who Paterson should have picked based on color, sex, ethnicity, etc.

We wanted a QUALIFIED candidate, UBM.

We felt, and feel, that PBO remains inexperienced. He needed at least 6 more years in the U.S. Senate, truly focusing on his job in the Senate, which he NEVER did.

Transparency for Obama is just a shower curtain. He loves to be seen without clothes and enjoys creating his invisible audience.

Inspirational won’t cut it when we hit some real turbulence!
Buckle up folks! In my opinion the dems are going to have to “wing it”!

Elise-
I am beginning to wonder if the transparency extends to the congress too:

Congress to meet in secret ?

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hc111-1

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-hc1/show

http://willnevergiveup.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/h-con-res-1/

EXCERPT from third website link referred to above:

A resolution has been introduced that congress can assemble anywhere they choose. Will this allow congress to meet in secret locations away from public scrutiny? Will taxpayers be picking up the tab for destinations unknown?

On January 6, 2009 a concurrent resolution was passed by the house of representatives to change a clause in the Constitution.
In affect, this resolution to the Constitution of the United States enables Speaker of the House (currently Nancy Pelosi, D – CA) and the Majority Leader of the Senate (currently Harry Reid, D – NV) to direct members of the House and Senate to assemble at a place outside of Washington, DC
This resolution, introduced by Rep. Louise McIntosh Slaughter of New York (D) on January 6, 2009 – the first day in session by the 111th Congress. The Resolution passed in the House of Representatives then referred to and received in the Senate which was then referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.

Oh don’t forget how someone somewhere said that Barack Obama had “intuitive experience” and that’s what made him qualified to be president if his resume was a little short on specific achievements.

Yep, that makes me feel much better. Which would you rather hear if you were a passenger on that plane? “well we lost both engines but don’t worry, I’m going to use my intuitive experience to land this airplane in the middle of the river.”

OR “well we lost both engines but don’t worry, I’m going to use my 30 years of flying planes and certified flight instructor experience to land this airplane in the middle of the river”.

Auh yes. How perfect.

…kinda’ goes along with MAD’s depiction of Obama’s first 100 minutes.

http://www.dccomics.com/media/product/1/1/11594_180x240.jpg

The above one is what happens when you DO hire that inexperienced person for the job.

With all due respect, Susan, I think my original proposition is borne out by the fact that so many No Quarter commenters were all gung-ho for Sarah Palin… a woman whose policy outlook shares nothing in common with HIllary Clinton’s.

That was about gender… and about punishing Obama for defeating HIllary.

As for Caroline, I guess the punishing-Obama-for-defeating-Hillary thing trumps even the gender thing!

As for Caroline, I guess the punishing-Obama-for-defeating-Hillary thing trumps even the gender thing!

Where does the “experience thing,” also known as “the paying your dues thing” fit into all of this?

In the case of Sarah Palin? You tell me.

UBM, Speaking for my self, Govorner Palin is more qualified than BO.

With all due respect, BO is a girly man and gender retorts from you is par for the course.

Experience and a moral compass are not what BO brings to the table.

QUALIFIED. Is that so hard for you to understand?

Must reading for NQ followers….a video montage of Obama’s STFU looks. Turns out we now know where Barry was born. He’s a Vulcan. (Star Trek reference)

http://gawker.com/5138358/obamas-stfu-face?skyline=true&s=x

I believe you were speaking “as for Caroline.” Sarah Palin? Her executive experience was superior to that of Barack Obama, and she was only running for Vice President, not President.

At any rate, the card game analogy, in which this trumps that, oversimplifies the situation. It is more complex than one card trumping another in a game with set rules.

Ha Ha. That toon is in sharp contrast to the actual first 100 minutes photo-op picture of Obama behind his new desk, smiling and talking on the phone. The desk itself has absolutely nothing on it.

That was about gender… and about punishing Obama for defeating HIllary.

Not so. And even if it were, you have no room to complain since your two criteria were black and male, in that order. That One was and is unfit, unqualified, and dangerous. It has nothing to do with race.

As for Caroline, I guess the punishing-Obama-for-defeating-Hillary thing trumps even the gender thing!

It was always about qualifications, bot. I don’t personally care what color, sex, or orientation a candidate is. What concerns me is the person’s background. That One ain’t got it and neither does Caroline.

Too bad you always have to inject the patently irrelevant into any discussion.

LMAO. But the desk sure looked good.

My guess is that they don’t want to get caught in the backspatter and want to be out of reach when the crap hits the fan.

was the phone in the corret position on his ear this time? smile!

it is a grave mistake in policy to discount the repubs or take an arrogant attitude toward them. they are fighters and are also capable of organized tactics contrary to what dems typically do.

now i hope the dem actions right things. heavens i hope we all do. but win them over like clinton did from time to time for his specific policies. please note i don’t say clinton won them over least we forget the nightmare they (repubs) caused. to castigate limbaugh actually gives him free publicity and just spurs him forward in belittling obama. not well done!

Coleman lawyer Ben Ginsberg called the panel’s decision “a stinging defeat for Al Franken

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Say no more.

Please write a screenplay about a half black candidate who never really did anything, yet managed to inspire 53% of the voters to come out for him because of the post-Bush derangement syndrome that America suffers from. Even though the woman he debated was smarter, clearly more qualified, and held many of the positions he later called his own. Will Smith will be happy to option it as long as Barry looks sympathetic.

thanks for that hillary or bust. seeing the inactions of naral, we need fighters to speak for us. these groups get caught up in the washington two step and that is setting up office and chasing the dollar.

i long for a president to speak for all and work to make a better life for all. if i want a woman or a certain ethic qualification as my primary reason then i am making a grave mistake.

i backed hillary because she deserved it. i don’t recall her playing the gender card. i am sure someone will google and find something they’ll throw out to “prove” it. face facts she had excellent policies to help all the people. obama was young and inexperienced. that was my first red flag with him. when he began playing the cards in his deck to win, then i understood he wasn’t my candidate.

Great Points Elise, do have a link for 18 mil contract?

Thanks.

reich makes a good argument for keeping him out of any responsible position.

Yes, please we need a post on what Barry allegedly said about 2010 and he himself, the Messiah, not getting re-elected if this new bailout isn’t fast-tracked. If Bush had said that it would be the headline on NYT and WAPO. But nary a mention. The talking heads would be ballistic. Sad.

You’re right, you weren’t pining. You were singularly focused on it because you wanted a black president, preferably male, irrespective of any other considerations. You are well known by your previous posts.

Wake up, people. War is an economic stimulus package. Provides employment, demand for goods and services, and helped get us out of the depression. The FDR comparisons are not for nothing.

Barry is no dove, despite the disgusting fact that he leveraged his impossible-because-he wasn’t there vote against Hillary’s Iraq vote, and used that to stain her in the minds of many voters who knew a dumb war when they saw it. (Remember what she voted for.)

the economy did very well during the viet nam war didn’t it? enough said!

I am shaking my head in disbelief. What is wrong with these addle-headed morons? Create jobs based on the lack of skills and on race? Oh, yeah, that’s the ticket. Let’s have these unskilled workers work on our infrastructure. Just think, we can build bridges on the cheap while providing jobs to those no one will hire due to lack of qualifications or skill. I think I’ll take my chances with the bridges as they are now.

I recently had a 100-year old, 75 foot maple removed from my property. I could have used unskilled labor but to what purpose?–So that my insurance company could pay for all the damage done? Nope, I hired the best in the area.

One should look into “Continuity of Government” on this. The Constitution does not say where they must meet. It does say that one body can not be out of session for more than 3 days.

Please correct me on this if I am in error, but I thank you for the links Athy.

Please don’t talk about money when people are dying. It’s sick. People in my community are dying and will continue to die just so people like Cheney, Bush and Barky can make obscene profits. Meanwhile vets are fighting just to have access to healthcare. Just check the homeless rate among Iraqi vets. Staggering and shameful.

strawberry if that comment was for me, it was snark. yes i am well aware of the shameful situation and feel as you do about it.

i believe the original poster wasn’t trying to say it was a good thing just pointing out how washington operates.

elise, generals don’t take things upon themselves. It doesn’t happen. “Ours is not to question why, ours is just to do or die”. The CIC makes the policy decisions. The militray carries them out. Don’t forget how many military people thought Iraq was a very bad idea, but had to carry out Bush’s orders…now barky’s.

Sorry stodghie, I’m a little touchy about people talking about profit when everyday I see, beautiful young people coming back with missing legs, horrible head scars, burned off jaws, missing eyes…and these amazing kids, are still going. I see them at the gym still working out. Man, I get a period cramp and all I want to do is take a Midol and lay in bed. These kids amaze me. I saw one SF guy who had his arm sewn into his chest (I’m guessing to prepare it for skin graphs) out and about getting a latte. I just want to break down and cry sometimes. Hell, I’m so lucky.

i hear you. when i have seen the names read on tv it brought tears to my eyes. and for what? do you remember the poem in which one of the main lines was “but it was a famous victory?” that poem spoke to me as well as the song that asks “where have all the flowers gone?”

That is right. The CIC can receive all the recommendations in the world from his military advisors, but the CIC makes the final decision and gives the military its marching orders.

And if a Senior Officer speaks “out of turn”, like Shinseki (or McArthur before him), that person gets his walking papers.

Yikes–I did not need that visual,lark!

and the pundits were saying on tv that obama’s administration wouldn’t make for jokes and humor? they got that wrong!

Yes, what I am trying to say is that a default solution to the devastating economy could be an increase in wartime spending. Ever since bloviatin’ Joe made his crack about Barry doing something we don’t understand, but trust us, this is what I have been afraid of.

I despise war of any kind.

Yes indeed. No more pics of O topless, even in the imagination!

I forgot about that one. LOL.

Strawberry, you haven’t been paying attention. Barry is not against wars, he is against dumb wars (Read between the lines. Any war he might engage in would be inherently “not dumb.”)

Please see this cached version of his famous 2002 speech that he used to bludgeon Hillary into a painful, slow, excruciatingly humiliating primary death.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:J6R10ZhKH2wJ:en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama%27s_Iraq_Speech+not+against+wars,+just+dumb+wars+obama&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

Never underestimate the American Public’s propensity to weisenheim.

I’d rather write a screenplay about a woman who seemed to have a clear path towards becoming the first woman president… but put together a campaign team that was strategically inept and riven with intramural conflict.

YUP!!!!!!! They get retired. And if you know your military history,(like I know you do FB) you should realize that the Iraq mess had more Senior Officers “retire” than I can ever remember.

I guess I’ll have to write my own. Know a good agent?

Um, you’re not paying attention. He sold the dumbass little punkass kids who showed up at my caucus the notion that he was the peace president. That’s all they talked about, he was going to end all wars. I knew damn well that he was even more hawkish than Hillary. But the little shits that were worried about getting their flabby asses drafted, fell for his Messiah message. I for one am glad he’s doing this (except for the fact that real people are dying). Those punkass Daily Kos twerps have it coming. Barky is a flim flam man.

We agree completely about him. I was being somewhat sarcastic. Bots excepted, everyone here knows exactly what he is about. And I know you do.

“i don’t recall her playing the gender card.”

Ummm… tell it to the Marines, stodghie.

Agence France-Press report, Oct. 15, 2007: “Hillary Clinton said Monday women voters could shatter America’s ‘highest glass ceiling’ and make her its first female president, in her campaign’s most overt bid so far to highlight her gender.”

Hillary on “Nightline,” Feb. 28, 2008: “No woman has ever won a presidential primary before I won New Hampshire. This is hard. And I don’t expect any sympathy…. Every so often I just wish that it were a little more of an even playing field.”

Teak, would you really rather have McCain and Palin in the White House right now?

Sorry, Joe…I think I need to lay off the caffiene. I’m biting peoples’ heads off this morning. But to tell you the truth…I have a bad feeling that Obama is going to start to lay his policy decisions and F-ups at the feet of the military. He won’t come out and blame them directly but he’ll have his minions come out and whisper and hint that the military is trying to undermine him. I refuse to let that happen. Our armed forces have suffered enough under Bush.

I knew damn well that he was even more hawkish than Hillary. But the little shits that were worried about getting their flabby asses drafted, fell for his Messiah message. I for one am glad he’s doing this (except for the fact that real people are dying). Those punkass Daily Kos twerps have it coming. Barky is a flim flam man.

I tried to warn the Obots that when you vote for a charismatic demagogue you get drafted into wars. That is the only way these Stalin types stay in power.

We won’t have to have a draft this time. The democrats have spooked the markets and tanked the economy so effectively that the Obots are rushing to enlist as sacrifices to the One.

• But … last year, Sneed is told the future president bought a pair of diamond earrings for his wife’s birthday. And she returned them — for a pair that cost more than twice the price!

• • To wit: “Mr. Obama came in himself and picked out a pair of earrings for Michelle, which were sort of long and dramatic, and the diamond dangled at the bottom,” said Sherry Bender, who owns the Goldsmith

Ltd., a jewelry store at 900 N. Michigan. (The earrings reportedly cost $5,000.)

• • The exchange: Bender tells Sneed that shortly thereafter, “Michelle came in, returned the earrings, looked around and picked out something a little more classic, with bigger stones, that was twice the price. She wanted to check with her husband first — then Barack came back in and bought what she wanted — which happened to be what I suggested originally!” (The new earrings reportedly cost about $12,000.)

From Michael Sneed’s column in the Chicago Sun-Times

We report. You decide. How the hell does he afford $12,000 earrings? Oh, maybe with the money that he saved by using the Rezko family to help[ underwrite his house.

They won’t last two weeks in boot camp. They’ll wither away and die within hours without their blackberries, I-pods and Redbull. God forbid the Drill Sgts raise their voices to them. They’ll break down and cry for their mommies.

UBM,
I do believe in Self fulfilling prophesies

Back during early 2008 it was clear that Obama and his Movement could win. at that time the talk was about class warfare. Of punishing the rich and taxing businesses as well as 100 million Americans by raising capital gains. Later the discussion turned to carbon taxes and punishing coal which produces 50% of electricity.
My favorite phrase in June was
The Obama collapse!

We have seen a systemic flight from equity markets totally $30 trillion..A stampede!

I blame the movement behind Obama which is bad for business!

If McCain had won the markets would never have been spooked and we would have carried on with a recession and not a world depression.

Obama’s words cost the world trillions!!

And if you are seriously going to tell me that is why she did not get the nomination — I got a bridge to sell you.

Outspent 3 to 1, with the DNC stabbing her in the back daily on behalf of their puppet king, the media treating her horribly, while not vetting him but instead giving him the star treatment — you are saying this had no effect?? She was still able to bring this to a tie with her leading the popular vote and him VERY slightly ahead in pledged delegates — by the time FL and Mi were seated, they were separated between 4 – 59 delegates — depending on whom you believe. You are telling me we without Pelosi, Dean, Reid and Kerry pressuring the SDs to go his way, it would not have turned out very differently at the convention? Give me a break.

It is easy for people to say O ran a “Brilliant” campaign when no one vetted him or reported his many lies and contradictions and gave him a pass on all his policy flip flops, while he took an obscene amount of money and threw it at the problem — namely his opponent. With a level playing field — i.e., the press doing their jobs and the DNC actually being neutral instead of just saying they were, O would be back enjoying his Senate seat right now, not the oval office.

yeah, strawberry, a little dose of realtiy don’t you know!

The DNC got the brand name they wanted. That is what happened. Plain and simple.

stop acting like a rude dufus, ubm. she says level playing field. the race card played by obama does not serve anyone well including the aa community. please tell us what he has ever done for the aa community??????? waiting!

seattle i totally agree with you. as a business owner i watch and read all of this carefully talking to both democrats and republicans.

Missed this front page as I was reading online. This is another must-see. MO gettin’ a little of what she deserves. http://www.suntimes.com/email_edition/frontpage_subscribe/

Right — and O with all his b.s. about him not looking like the face you usually see on the dollar bill; or his comment in Berlin about him not looking like those who have addressed them before, or all the okey-doke nonsense in Mississippi when he was campaigning — that’s not playing the race card??

She makes a comment and of course it gets a lot of negative play — he and his campaign played the race card with impunity every day for a year and no one says “boo”. That includes both Biden and Kerry saying we need to bote for Obama because he is black — they said this loudly and often.

They never said he was qualified — just that we had to vote for him because he is black. In fact, during the primnary, Biden was busy saying Pres. Obama wasn’t ready. Hmm. Quite the about face once they stuck him on the ticket.

No double standard there, eh?

Well said. Thanks for bringing up that debate, Elise. How could these duys have gotten away with saying this stuff? The hosts were basically giving people permission not to vote for her because they didn’t like her.

Chicago Joe, if war is good for the economy, why aren’t we having a good time? I remember Paul Wolfowitz said something similar about Iraq and now we have two wars. The US had already begun to pull out of the depression before Pearl Harbor. Making money on the top of the bodies of American soldiers and innocent civilians is blood money and only companies like Haliburton have prospered, but we all will pay the piper (karma).

The DNC got the winner they wanted.

Maybe he kept Gates at Defense for that purpose, Strawberry. He would be a perfect target for Obama.

Thanks for the link, athy. I had heard something, but didn’t know where to go for the story.

“Even playing field” was code for “Hey ladies, the men are ganging up on me! You can relate, right?” The day after she said it, I called her on this direct appeal to gender solidarity.

So do you stand corrected on your comment about Hillary not playing the gender card?

Here’s one, Teak and there’s another I’ll find for you.

http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=847944&lang=eng_news

“I blame the movement behind Obama which is bad for business!”

Seattle, didn’t you tell me a few days ago that you agree with Warren Buffett’s statement that “Obama is the perfect choice for these times”?

I might have mentioned…

We live in the world we have not the world we wish we had.
I don’t think the Obama supporters realize what they have done by playing the class warfare card.

Buffett is a socialist and a guilt ridden wealthy old man.
Now that the movement to redistribute is firmly in control I have to deal with the reality of that situation.

no! thanks for playing and sorry that you lose again.

There you go again, UBM, making make SWEEPING generalizations about us. These “you people” attacks are offensive and dismissive. Furthermore, they show your inability to see beyond the color of your own skin. It’s plainly obvious you don’t see white people as individuals but as objects for your attacks.

You generalize everyone at NoQuarter, especially the whites here, just as you have sweepingly accused THEM of racism. You’re in effect just as racist, more so, than the vast majority of people here whose true POVs you are incapable of comprehending.

Yes, there were some who were gaga over Sarah.

Count me not among those gaga over her, although I did enthusiastically support some of her statements. Her horrific positions on wildlife made it impossible for me to be gaga for her.

What WE really OBJECTED TO was that it was so “in” to attack Palin with complaints about her readiness to be president when, four years earlier, the Democrats’ VP candidate, John Edwards, had LESS experience than she and I don’t recall anyone complaining about it.

There were several problems for Sarah that were related to the the sexism and sometimes outright misogyny of those who wrote about it:

1) she was a woman, and women are attacked more than men — since you’re not a woman, you have NO CLUE just how much harder it always is for a woman to prove herself;

2) she had an infant with special needs, and critics like Sally Quinn said that alone made it impossible for her to be a VP — an argument that NO MAN EVER has ever had lobbed at him;

3) Even prominent feminists — most of them — abandoned her to her critics’ sexist attacks solely because her politics didn’t suit them. IN MY MIND, women who focus on sexism and women’s rights have to stand up for ALL women who are being attacked for sexist reasons;

4) Her history of standing up to her own party, and successfully winning office every time out, and her service on an important statewide oil commission were ignored while the media sent armies of reporters to Alaska to dig up DIRT on her and her family; and

5) you had once highly-respected bloggers at major news organizations — e.g, Andrew Sullivan – going nuts over the wild conspiracy theories that she’d claimed the baby she had was indeed her daughter’s.

6) Sullivan et al. were demanding Palin’s FULL medical records while accepting, at face value, the one-page summary of Obama’s own health records — a rather strong indicator that Obama has something to hide about his medical history (drug use, sexually transmitted diseases, psychological treatment, or some other medical issue that prevented him from disclosing his full records, UNLIKE John McCain.

7) Her children became “fair game” and that army of reporters had no ethics about exposing their personal lives whereas – had the same been done to Obama’s girls — the liberal media would have screamed to the high heavens.

I’m fully cognizant that seemingly all you care about are the rights of people of color, and that you could give a damn about the rights and opportunities of women being trampled on, no matter their political views. But we women DO care (well, at least the women who get it that sexism must be fought, no matter the politics of the woman) and we WILL defend a woman, whether we like only parts of her politics — simply because we have the CAPACITY to know what it’s like for a woman to suffer the above indignities while the male candidates (especially a man of color) get a PASS.

THANK GOD for the few women in NOW — and others like Dr. Lynette Long and Lady de Rothschild — who UNDERSTOOD what was being done to Sarah Palin and who vowed to “have her back.”

Would i especially want her as VP? Quite honestly, no. But I was repulsed by the “open season” declared on every intimate detail of her and her family’s lives.

Btw, I’ll bet you only stand up for liberal people of color. I bet women and men of color who are conservatives don’t get the time of day from you. Which is a logical inconsistency that is illogical at best, and wholly unfair at worst.

Oh well. All I can do is present facts. I can’t force anyone to accept them.

most of all yourself,ubm! have a nice day and don’t take any wooden nickels!

This is something new, Teak, otherwise a new resolution wouldn’t be necessary. My question: are they planning to move the Congress to Chicago?That’s a “snark” or not?

HCON 1 RFS

111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. CON. RES. 1

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

January 6, 2009

Received and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration

Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That pursuant to clause 4,
section 5, article I of the Constitution, during the One Hundred Eleventh Congress the Speaker of the House and the Majority Leader of the Senate or their respective designees, acting jointly after consultation with the Minority Leader of the House and the Minority Leader of the Senate,

may notify the Members of the House and the Senate, respectively, to assemble at a place outside the District of Columbia if, in their opinion, the public interest shall warrant it.

She was on Fox News about this yesterday. Btw, I think Ed Morrissey at Hot Air had it first.

You know, Barney Frank et al. had better be damn careful with awarding construction bids primarily to minority racial groups. That is what was done in Chicago — that crooked town where Obama honed his political “skills” — and, when public housing was privatized, the minority-owned businesses, many of them, served as “fronts’ for 1) the mob, and 2) buddies of Barack like Cullen and Alison Davis, who scooped up taxpayers’ money by the millions but left the poor in horrifically substandard housing.

Any minority-owned and primarily minority-employed business must receive their due because they’re at a disadvantage often. (That’s the reason such vital laws were passed.) But that should only happen if they are truly qualified to do the job, and aren’t serving as a front for a bunch of crooks.

Susan,

You know, Barney Frank et al. had better be damn careful with awarding construction bids primarily to minority racial groups.

I have been trying real hard to be conciliatory Moss
But I feel like I keep getting slapped in the face.
You have Robert Reichstag talking about denying white males and professionals from being part of the stimulus
Then have Lowery saying whites need to make right when an AA President is standing right behind him elected in part by whites.
You have other comments from these rappers which I’m not bothering to even review.

Then you have Barney Frank talking from both sides of his lisps.
Why have I lost confidence..Maybe because the folks like Franks who caused the mortgage collapse by wanting to give houses to those that couldn’t afford them is now in charge of social engineering and taking way from those that actually produce.

“There you go again, UBM, making make SWEEPING generalizations about us.”

Well, Susan… you judge a hotel by its clientele. (And by occasionally checking the mattresses for bedbugs.)

I have been documenting the scurrilous, irrational, childish, vindictive attacks here against Barack Obama — as candidate, as black man, as human being — since May 2008.

I am as entitled to generalize sweepingly as NQ is worthy of it.

That night I sent the first of endless emails and made the first of endless phone calls to msn protesting the personal and sexist attacks, Ani. A few voices in the wilderness were not enough to counter the corrupt media and DNC.

You are “entitled” to nothing here, UBM. If EVERY comment you have made since the beginning of this past election season were documented, your lack of credibility would call into question your right to challenge even the most extreme comments here. This blog represents a working example of the first admendment to the Constitution and only those completely over the top in profanity or threats are banned. Have you been banned, UBM? You bring your supercillous, condesending attitude to nq simply because you know the people here are generally mature and informed. I’ve read other blogs and seen purely emotional arguments and statements not supported by anything other than the info on Obama’s Website. The childish rants of the uninformed who, in some cases, don’t understand how the FISA Court protects their rights or the impossible policy of a sitting President speaking directly to petty dictators because Obama said it was the way things should be done. To paraphrase the words of the former Chairman of the Party Formerly Known as Democratic, get over yourself.

I have been documenting the scurrilous, irrational, childish, vindictive attacks here against Barack Obama — as candidate, as black man, as human being — since May 2008.

Have you been documenting your own scurrilous, irrational, childish, vindictive attacks against anyone who either wasn’t for the object of your undying affection or was running against that same object?

I know very well you didn’t.

But I did.

TeakwoodKite,

Good question…however I have no answer because I do not know the present status of DeFazio’s original request-read below…

http://www.truthout.org/article/congressman-denied-access-post-attack-continuity-plans

Congressman Denied Access to Post-Attack Continuity Plans

Newhouse News Service

Tuesday 24 July 2007

EXCERPT

Washington – Constituents called Rep. Peter DeFazio’s office, worried there was a conspiracy buried in the classified portion of a White House plan for operating the government after a terrorist attack.

As a member of the House Committee on Homeland Security, DeFazio, D-Ore., is permitted to enter a secure “bubbleroom” in the Capitol and examine classified material. So he asked the White House to see the secret documents.

On Wednesday, DeFazio got his answer: DENIED.

“I just can’t believe they’re going to deny a member of Congress the right of reviewing how they plan to conduct the government of the United States after a significant terrorist attack,” DeFazio said.

Homeland Security Committee staffers told his office that the White House initially approved his request, but it was later quashed. DeFazio doesn’t know who did it or why