Comments on: Beware the Malthus mindset http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/ Thu, 24 May 2012 15:35:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Hot News » Malthus http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1195890 Hot News » Malthus Sun, 26 Apr 2009 03:20:23 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1195890 [...] Passant » Overpopulation, Malthus and Marx...Malthus: vampire slayer - Host Sql Database...Beware the Malthus mindset : NO QUARTER...VDARE.com: Blog Articles » Paging Dr. Malthus: Insolvent Iraqi immigrant’s 8 [...] [...] Passant » Overpopulation, Malthus and Marx…Malthus: vampire slayer – Host Sql Database…Beware the Malthus mindset : NO QUARTER…VDARE.com: Blog Articles » Paging Dr. Malthus: Insolvent Iraqi immigrant’s 8 [...]

]]> By: Karma http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1127763 Karma Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:53:56 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1127763 "For research, he read profiles of corporate raiders T. Boone Pickens and Carl Icahn." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_(film) “For research, he read profiles of corporate raiders T. Boone Pickens and Carl Icahn.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_(film)

]]> By: athy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1127573 athy Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:08:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1127573 ogg, On the surface, this may appear to be a very unfair situation for both countries. Walmart is a for profit corporation. Its goal is to make a profit-period. I do not know who/what is to blame for the above scenario. Is it US/China trade laws? Is it corporate greed? Is it something else? If corporation relies heavily on employees in another country for cheap labor, what are the odds that corporation would want the nature of this working relationship to change ? If it does, corporate profits would decrease. Can Walmart charge American consumer less than $150 per bike? It can but if it does, corporate profits would decrease. The corporation's goal is to make a profit. Can the workers in developing and less developed nations provide anything else (skill or knowledge-based output) to the international trade marketplace? Perhaps. What is stopping them from doing so? I dont know enough about US/China trade relations to answer this question properly. I do not know enough about how much lobbying power (based upon its economic strength) Walmart can exert on both governments. The law of supply and demand is very powerful when it comes to trying to explain why nations do what they do however... there are many rules and regulations and strings attached to loans and financial aid that cloud up the raw economics of the situation. The above situation you described is inherently wrong and unfair to consumers and employees (in both countries). ogg,

On the surface, this may appear to be a very unfair situation for both countries.

Walmart is a for profit corporation. Its goal is to make a profit-period.

I do not know who/what is to blame for the above scenario.

Is it US/China trade laws? Is it corporate greed? Is it something else?

If corporation relies heavily on employees in another country for cheap labor, what are the odds that corporation would want the nature of this working relationship to change ?

If it does, corporate profits would decrease.

Can Walmart charge American consumer less than $150 per bike?

It can but if it does, corporate profits would decrease.

The corporation’s goal is to make a profit.

Can the workers in developing and less developed nations provide anything else (skill or knowledge-based output) to the international trade marketplace?

Perhaps.

What is stopping them from doing so?

I dont know enough about US/China trade relations to answer this question properly.

I do not know enough about how much lobbying power (based upon its economic strength) Walmart can exert on both governments.

The law of supply and demand is very powerful when it comes to trying to explain why nations do what they do however…

there are many rules and regulations and strings attached to loans and financial aid that cloud up the raw economics of the situation.

The above situation you described is inherently wrong and unfair to consumers and employees (in both countries).

]]> By: Peggy Sue http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1127557 Peggy Sue Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:56:18 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1127557 "Man those hash brownies must be good." Oh God. Make me laugh. This is 1960s redux. “Man those hash brownies must be good.”

Oh God. Make me laugh. This is 1960s redux.

]]> By: Peggy Sue http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1127554 Peggy Sue Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:52:13 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1127554 Oh me, too, on the space program. I was a kid when it first started and look at all the technical advances the program has brought in a relatively short time. All that stuff our kids take for granted. It wouldn't be here without the space program. When people pull out: OMG, we have problems right here on earth. Why spend that money for space exploration? Drives me nuts! Oh me, too, on the space program. I was a kid when it first started and look at all the technical advances the program has brought in a relatively short time. All that stuff our kids take for granted. It wouldn’t be here without the space program. When people pull out: OMG, we have problems right here on earth. Why spend that money for space exploration?

Drives me nuts!

]]> By: TeakwoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1127548 TeakwoodKite Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:42:37 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1127548 It's ironic that during the turn of the 20th century, England thought "the country’s most plentiful sources of energy" was coal and they ran out...of time. Same old Dutch Windmills. Grumpy, mass hysteria and leaders who talk down the economy without giving not hope, but a plan of action will have niether. (to paraphase a hero of mine.) @OT, Today I saw a P-51 Mustang <a href="http://skyvector.com/airport/STS/Charles-M-Schulz-Sonoma-County-Airport" rel="nofollow">inbound</a>, just the sound of the motor alone makes a kite jeoulous. The inspiration and persperation all roled into one amazing example of imagination against a clear blue sky. It’s ironic that during the turn of the 20th century, England thought “the country’s most plentiful sources of energy” was coal and they ran out…of time.

Same old Dutch Windmills.

Grumpy, mass hysteria and leaders who talk down the economy without giving not hope, but a plan of action will have niether.
(to paraphase a hero of mine.)

@OT, Today I saw a P-51 Mustang inbound, just the sound of the motor alone makes a kite jeoulous. The inspiration and persperation all roled into one amazing example of imagination against a clear blue sky.

]]> By: Old Grumpy Guy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1127544 Old Grumpy Guy Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:38:54 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1127544 If you want to hang it on your wall I can do you a large print (for free) and email it to you. Alternatively I am doing a high definition DVD that can be used as a "wall gallery". If you want to hang it on your wall I can do you a large print (for free) and email it to you. Alternatively I am doing a high definition DVD that can be used as a “wall gallery”.

]]> By: Old Grumpy Guy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1127531 Old Grumpy Guy Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:25:14 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1127531 I remember listening to a lecture given by a trading consultant on how WalMart was buying bicycles for $7 from China and selling them for $150 in the US. At the same time Walmart was setting impossible production targets for its employees and often using this as a way of getting rid of workers who could be replaced by cheaper ones. The problem with such policies is that not only are the buying public not getting any real benefit when they are paying 20 times the cost price for goods; it also means that by reducing the earning power of US workers it is shrinking the buying capacity of its primary market. I remember listening to a lecture given by a trading consultant on how WalMart was buying bicycles for $7 from China and selling them for $150 in the US. At the same time Walmart was setting impossible production targets for its employees and often using this as a way of getting rid of workers who could be replaced by cheaper ones. The problem with such policies is that not only are the buying public not getting any real benefit when they are paying 20 times the cost price for goods; it also means that by reducing the earning power of US workers it is shrinking the buying capacity of its primary market.

]]> By: I Want A Do Over http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1127526 I Want A Do Over Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:19:32 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1127526 Yeah, well then maybe you can tell me why MY taxpayer dollars have paid, and will continue to pay for, 15 year old ghetto teenagers having ten kids, smoking crack, never knowing the fathers of the kids, and refusing to work. I would bet that Palin is contributing to society, while those others are sucking us dry. But, that's okay right? Yeah, well then maybe you can tell me why MY taxpayer dollars have paid, and will continue to pay for, 15 year old ghetto teenagers having ten kids, smoking crack, never knowing the fathers of the kids, and refusing to work. I would bet that Palin is contributing to society, while those others are sucking us dry. But, that’s okay right?

]]> By: Steve_in_KC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1127510 Steve_in_KC Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:51:48 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1127510 I don't mean to pick, but having five children in a place as big as Alaska hardly seems like an issue, particularly when they are a self-sufficient tax-paying family, not asking the government for financial help. Now if she had <strong>twelve</strong> children, I still wouldn't agree, but I probably wouldn't say anything in rebuttal! :D I don’t mean to pick, but having five children in a place as big as Alaska hardly seems like an issue, particularly when they are a self-sufficient tax-paying family, not asking the government for financial help.

Now if she had twelve children, I still wouldn’t agree, but I probably wouldn’t say anything in rebuttal! :D

]]> By: Ferd Berfle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1127504 Ferd Berfle Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:45:09 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1127504 <blockquote>Seriously..My contribution is to use special resins that make for thinner but stronger bags and also add biodegradable to the formula</blockquote> And that is the sort of product we need to keep making and others like them. Good for you.

Seriously..My contribution is to use special resins that make for thinner but stronger bags and also add biodegradable to the formula

And that is the sort of product we need to keep making and others like them. Good for you.

]]> By: Seattle Moss http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1127502 Seattle Moss Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:41:01 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1127502 <blockquote>This really is a time to not only think outside the box, but to throw the box away.</blockquote> I'm all for that..Since I make the liners for the box..LOL Seriously..My contribution is to use special resins that make for thinner but stronger bags and also add biodegradable to the formula

This really is a time to not only think outside the box, but to throw the box away.

I’m all for that..Since I make the liners for the box..LOL

Seriously..My contribution is to use special resins that make for thinner but stronger bags and also add biodegradable to the formula

]]> By: athy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1127501 athy Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:40:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1127501 OGG, IMO, its almost a 'Catch 22' situation with regards to the US relationship with countries that provide cheap labor. Cheap labor may be what some of these less developed and developing countries 'trade on' in the short term but ultimately, companies located in the more developed nations rely on this cheap labor. They rely on it to produce goods at cheap prices so that they (developed nations' corporations) can make a profit by selling these goods produced back to the countries that provided the cheap labor -as well as selling these goods produced to their own citizens. It can get pretty dicey if developed nations feel threatened by emerging economies in these developing and less developed countries because ultimately, these emerging economies may wind up competing against the developed nations. Rules and regulations must be examined carefully-especially strings attached to any funding provided by the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, etc... Regulation which may on the surface appear to promote the best interests of nations in fact may serve to hinder these nations' economic development in effort to force them to rely on developed nations for necessities. Call it economic blackmail, if you will. You can also call it 'Soft Diplomacy' if you like. It should never be taken for granted that developed nations have the best economic interests at heart when it comes to developing and less developed countries. OGG,
IMO, its almost a ‘Catch 22′ situation with regards to the US relationship with countries that provide cheap labor.

Cheap labor may be what some of these less developed and developing countries ‘trade on’ in the short term but ultimately, companies located in the more developed nations rely on this cheap labor.

They rely on it to produce goods at cheap prices so that they (developed nations’ corporations) can make a profit by selling these goods produced back to the countries that provided the cheap labor -as well as selling these goods produced to their own citizens.

It can get pretty dicey if developed nations feel threatened by emerging economies in these developing and less developed countries because ultimately, these emerging economies may wind up competing against the developed nations.

Rules and regulations must be examined carefully-especially strings attached to any funding provided by the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, etc…

Regulation which may on the surface appear to promote the best interests of nations in fact may serve to hinder these nations’ economic development in effort to force them to rely on developed nations for necessities.

Call it economic blackmail, if you will. You can also call it ‘Soft Diplomacy’ if you like.

It should never be taken for granted that developed nations have the best economic interests at heart when it comes to developing and less developed countries.

]]> By: WildChild http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1127499 WildChild Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:37:57 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1127499 The extraction could be done with a lit more foresight, but then we've had republicans running the show for awhile. They take issue with cleaning up the mess you made while you were making your millions. Having said that, worldwide Coal is the biggest producer of greenhouse gasses of all our fuels. If you're serious about dealing with global warming, you don't burn more coal. The extraction could be done with a lit more foresight, but then we’ve had republicans running the show for awhile. They take issue with cleaning up the mess you made while you were making your millions. Having said that, worldwide Coal is the biggest producer of greenhouse gasses of all our fuels. If you’re serious about dealing with global warming, you don’t burn more coal.

]]> By: WildChild http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/12353/beware-the-malthus-mindset/#comment-1127498 WildChild Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:28:49 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=12353#comment-1127498 There's a phrase that the we liberals used back in WWII that went United we stand, divided we fall. You have to wonder about the veracity of any belief system inspired by an immortal being that would insist the children of it's creation remain divided, and fall. It would seem if we were created in it's image, we would be given the opposite advice. I have to question whether or not those who claim to be touched by god and inspired to write the passages that ended up in our religious texts, we're really touched by god or if they were inspired by something that was much more dark. There’s a phrase that the we liberals used back in WWII that went United we stand, divided we fall. You have to wonder about the veracity of any belief system inspired by an immortal being that would insist the children of it’s creation remain divided, and fall. It would seem if we were created in it’s image, we would be given the opposite advice. I have to question whether or not those who claim to be touched by god and inspired to write the passages that ended up in our religious texts, we’re really touched by god or if they were inspired by something that was much more dark.

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