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	<title>Comments on: ALL WOMEN (and men): Don&#8217;t miss this video and Obama&#8217;s failures to include women and women&#8217;s issues in his administration</title>
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		<title>By: Undercover Black Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Undercover Black Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;btw, the journalism field in no way shape or form compares to the “macho-man” type of occupations where sexism is much more blatant.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I beg to differ, NoBama. Up through the 1960s, hard news reporting was definitely considered a man&#039;s occupation. And big-city newsrooms were a macho preserve. It wasn&#039;t unusual for manly reporters and editors to keep a flask of liquor stashed in their desk drawers.

I think it&#039;s more helpful to look at how the culture as a whole is evolving... and not get hung up on the presidency.

After all, Speaker of the House is one of the most powerful political positions in the United States... but Nancy Pelosi gets trashed here like nobody&#039;s business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;btw, the journalism field in no way shape or form compares to the “macho-man” type of occupations where sexism is much more blatant.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I beg to differ, NoBama. Up through the 1960s, hard news reporting was definitely considered a man&#8217;s occupation. And big-city newsrooms were a macho preserve. It wasn&#8217;t unusual for manly reporters and editors to keep a flask of liquor stashed in their desk drawers.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s more helpful to look at how the culture as a whole is evolving&#8230; and not get hung up on the presidency.</p>
<p>After all, Speaker of the House is one of the most powerful political positions in the United States&#8230; but Nancy Pelosi gets trashed here like nobody&#8217;s business.</p>
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		<title>By: hopeful</title>
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		<dc:creator>hopeful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your style. Very insightful. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your style. Very insightful. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: hopeful</title>
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		<dc:creator>hopeful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was very disappointed in my fellow Hillary supporters. All the talk from both sides has become so empty. As the ONE would say &quot;Just Words&quot; It certainly should be no surprise to anyone with half a brain at what he will continue to do. An opportunist is an opportunist. Nothing has changed about our thoughts of him.
So yes, the I told you so dance could last four years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was very disappointed in my fellow Hillary supporters. All the talk from both sides has become so empty. As the ONE would say &#8220;Just Words&#8221; It certainly should be no surprise to anyone with half a brain at what he will continue to do. An opportunist is an opportunist. Nothing has changed about our thoughts of him.<br />
So yes, the I told you so dance could last four years.</p>
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		<title>By: fif</title>
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		<dc:creator>fif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naomi Wolf does NOT speak for me--she is a sell out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naomi Wolf does NOT speak for me&#8211;she is a sell out.</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pelosi was elected speaker solely on her ability to raise money. Her first test as speaker was a failure. She supported John Murtha as Majority Whip and the House voted for Steny Hoyer. She doesn&#039;t have to lose her seat in SF in order to be replaced if she loses her ability to raise money or the other reps finally get sick of her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pelosi was elected speaker solely on her ability to raise money. Her first test as speaker was a failure. She supported John Murtha as Majority Whip and the House voted for Steny Hoyer. She doesn&#8217;t have to lose her seat in SF in order to be replaced if she loses her ability to raise money or the other reps finally get sick of her.</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;That is a mindset the places gender considerations above all other qualifications. And it is purely political and anti-meritocratic.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Is it your contention there aren&#039;t a sufficient number of women in this country whose qualifications merit appointment to his cabinet in the face of the five countries Susan mentioned above which have/had heads of their government? Wouldn&#039;t this imply American women are inferior to women in other countries or the other countries elect inferior heads of state? If you assume we are equal in intelligence and ability, what is the reason for the inequality in employment? And, why are successful women so often referred to in a derogatory way? For example, the statement in the media claiming Hillary Clinton attained her position out of pity related to her husband&#039;s infidelity. Another example is the treatment of Anita Hill during the confirmation of Justice Clarence Thomas. Statistically, if all things are equal, fifty percent of the population should be represented by close to that number. The same logic can be applied to any segment of the population which is why Affirmative Action was a necessary component of laws forbidding discrimination. The real problem, UBM, is a lack of desire by the &quot;old boys club&quot; to recognize the discrimination since the status quo is in their own interest. Sexual harassment and sexism is endemic in our society and refusing to recognize it doesn&#039;t make it go away.It is especially prevalent in the Black community and some fundamentalist evangelical groups. Obama is a grown man (at least in age), but the music he likes and his sexist attacks on Hillary are proof of of his lack of respect for women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;That is a mindset the places gender considerations above all other qualifications. And it is purely political and anti-meritocratic.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Is it your contention there aren&#8217;t a sufficient number of women in this country whose qualifications merit appointment to his cabinet in the face of the five countries Susan mentioned above which have/had heads of their government? Wouldn&#8217;t this imply American women are inferior to women in other countries or the other countries elect inferior heads of state? If you assume we are equal in intelligence and ability, what is the reason for the inequality in employment? And, why are successful women so often referred to in a derogatory way? For example, the statement in the media claiming Hillary Clinton attained her position out of pity related to her husband&#8217;s infidelity. Another example is the treatment of Anita Hill during the confirmation of Justice Clarence Thomas. Statistically, if all things are equal, fifty percent of the population should be represented by close to that number. The same logic can be applied to any segment of the population which is why Affirmative Action was a necessary component of laws forbidding discrimination. The real problem, UBM, is a lack of desire by the &#8220;old boys club&#8221; to recognize the discrimination since the status quo is in their own interest. Sexual harassment and sexism is endemic in our society and refusing to recognize it doesn&#8217;t make it go away.It is especially prevalent in the Black community and some fundamentalist evangelical groups. Obama is a grown man (at least in age), but the music he likes and his sexist attacks on Hillary are proof of of his lack of respect for women.</p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correct; american women are taught that it&#039;s more important to be liked than respected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correct; american women are taught that it&#8217;s more important to be liked than respected.</p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that you fall into a trap by describing certain women as &quot;acting masculine&quot; and others as being &quot;feminine.&quot;  once you accept that thinking then you are allowing society to define what women &quot;should&quot; or &quot;should not&quot; do.   that is exactly what we need to get out of.  each woman (and man) should decide for her/himself what they want to in life.

however you make the good point the &quot;women&#039;s work&quot; should be valued equally with &quot;man&#039;s work.&quot;  the reason that it is not valued equally is because women themselves are not valued equally with men.  it will probably be a long time before that changes significantly in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that you fall into a trap by describing certain women as &#8220;acting masculine&#8221; and others as being &#8220;feminine.&#8221;  once you accept that thinking then you are allowing society to define what women &#8220;should&#8221; or &#8220;should not&#8221; do.   that is exactly what we need to get out of.  each woman (and man) should decide for her/himself what they want to in life.</p>
<p>however you make the good point the &#8220;women&#8217;s work&#8221; should be valued equally with &#8220;man&#8217;s work.&#8221;  the reason that it is not valued equally is because women themselves are not valued equally with men.  it will probably be a long time before that changes significantly in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UBM, as far as pilots go, the gender numbers could very well be a factor of both qualifications *and* sexism; it is not either/or.  i suspect that not as many women take up flying as men (we won&#039;t go into the reasons right now) and fewer will become qualified to be airline pilots.  that doesn&#039;t mean that the women who are in aviation *aren&#039;t* subject to sexism.

i worked in the mining industry for a while, which has very few women (outside of secretary type positions), and i can tell you that yes, not very many women go into mining in the first place, but there is a horrendous amount of negative attitudes toward women (women who are outside of &quot;their place,&quot; anyway) in this industry.  this would tend to limit the advance of women in the field, and convince many of them to leave it all together. 

btw, the journalism field in no way shape or form compares to the &quot;macho-man&quot; type of occupations where sexism is much more blatant.  i think the macho attitude certainly applies when it comes to a woman aspiring to hold the ultimate &quot;man&#039;s job,&quot; i.e. the presidency.  

quotas aside, the treatment of hillary and sarah palin during the past election was disgraceful, while obama got the red capet rolled out for him from before the primaries even began.  this is undeniable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UBM, as far as pilots go, the gender numbers could very well be a factor of both qualifications *and* sexism; it is not either/or.  i suspect that not as many women take up flying as men (we won&#8217;t go into the reasons right now) and fewer will become qualified to be airline pilots.  that doesn&#8217;t mean that the women who are in aviation *aren&#8217;t* subject to sexism.</p>
<p>i worked in the mining industry for a while, which has very few women (outside of secretary type positions), and i can tell you that yes, not very many women go into mining in the first place, but there is a horrendous amount of negative attitudes toward women (women who are outside of &#8220;their place,&#8221; anyway) in this industry.  this would tend to limit the advance of women in the field, and convince many of them to leave it all together. </p>
<p>btw, the journalism field in no way shape or form compares to the &#8220;macho-man&#8221; type of occupations where sexism is much more blatant.  i think the macho attitude certainly applies when it comes to a woman aspiring to hold the ultimate &#8220;man&#8217;s job,&#8221; i.e. the presidency.  </p>
<p>quotas aside, the treatment of hillary and sarah palin during the past election was disgraceful, while obama got the red capet rolled out for him from before the primaries even began.  this is undeniable.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnny Smithfield - apologist. You will get better at it . that was a C-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnny Smithfield &#8211; apologist. You will get better at it . that was a C-.</p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s pretty rich to hear UBM talk about &quot;qualifications,&quot; and not putting physical characteristic above everything else.  heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s pretty rich to hear UBM talk about &#8220;qualifications,&#8221; and not putting physical characteristic above everything else.  heh.</p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that reminds me of the time (in the 80&#039;s? don&#039;t remember exactly when) when the end of apartheid occurred in South Africa, and there was some big ceremony on the transfer of power, on which the media remarked much about the &quot;historic&quot; nature of, and so on, and i remember seeing pictures of the event, and surprise, surprise, there wasn&#039;t a woman to be seen any where among the top leaders on either side.  the media didn&#039;t make much mention of *that.*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that reminds me of the time (in the 80&#8242;s? don&#8217;t remember exactly when) when the end of apartheid occurred in South Africa, and there was some big ceremony on the transfer of power, on which the media remarked much about the &#8220;historic&#8221; nature of, and so on, and i remember seeing pictures of the event, and surprise, surprise, there wasn&#8217;t a woman to be seen any where among the top leaders on either side.  the media didn&#8217;t make much mention of *that.*</p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is nothing more infuriating that hearing an Obot, so-called &quot;feminist&quot; apologizing for and excusing the muslim treatment of girls and women.

on the one hand, it&#039;s scary; i mean, would she justify these kind of restrictions on women if they were to occur in the US?  at the same time, it&#039;s almost a kind of reverse racism;  we know full well that if some white, american christian group were to treat women the same way, people like ms. wolfe would go absolutely ballistic; but those poor brown people, well, they don&#039;t know any better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is nothing more infuriating that hearing an Obot, so-called &#8220;feminist&#8221; apologizing for and excusing the muslim treatment of girls and women.</p>
<p>on the one hand, it&#8217;s scary; i mean, would she justify these kind of restrictions on women if they were to occur in the US?  at the same time, it&#8217;s almost a kind of reverse racism;  we know full well that if some white, american christian group were to treat women the same way, people like ms. wolfe would go absolutely ballistic; but those poor brown people, well, they don&#8217;t know any better.</p>
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		<title>By: portia9</title>
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		<dc:creator>portia9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s not to like? I could never understand why we were supposed to sympathize with the Matthew Broderick character. He was vile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s not to like? I could never understand why we were supposed to sympathize with the Matthew Broderick character. He was vile.</p>
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		<title>By: portia9</title>
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		<dc:creator>portia9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comment is inappropriate, regardless of how pathetic Pelosi is. &quot;Ugly tramp&quot; is sexist and threatening violence against women isn&#039;t funny. When we denigrate one woman in this way we denigrate all women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment is inappropriate, regardless of how pathetic Pelosi is. &#8220;Ugly tramp&#8221; is sexist and threatening violence against women isn&#8217;t funny. When we denigrate one woman in this way we denigrate all women.</p>
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