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Hillary Takes the Lead on Climate Change

Politico.com has a backgrounder article on Secretary Clinton’s naming of Todd Stern as the nation’s “Climate Czar” and his previous experience as a staffer in the Clinton White House and as “a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, focusing on climate change and environmental issues.”

From the State Department Web site:

Secretary Clinton Announces Appointment of Special Envoy for Climate Change Todd Stern
Hillary Rodham Clinton, Secretary of State
Ben Franklin Room, Washington, DC

SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you. Thank you very much. Well, welcome to the State Department, but really, many of you work here and work at USAID and do the important business of our country, and I’m so pleased that you could join us today, because it is with great enthusiasm that I am naming today a Special Envoy for Climate Change.

As should be evident by now, the President and I believe that American leadership is essential to meeting the challenges of the 21st century. And chief among those is the complex, urgent, and global threat of climate change. From rapidly rising temperatures to melting arctic icecaps, from lower crop yields to dying forests, from unforgiving hurricanes to unrelenting droughts, we have no shortage of evidence that our world is facing a climate crisis.

And let’s be clear. A world in crisis goes well beyond the air we breathe, the food we eat, the water we drink. It is at once an environmental, economic, energy and national security issue with grave implications for America’s and the world’s future. A quick scan of the globe vividly conveys the human toll. Competition for scarcer resources like food and water will lead to further migrations of populations, regional conflicts, and greater disparities between the rich and poor. Reliance on foreign sources of oil and gas influence our way of life here at home and continues to compromise our national security.

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With the appointment today of a Special Envoy, we are sending an unequivocal message that the United States will be energetic, focused, strategic and serious about addressing global climate change and the corollary issue of clean energy.

Now our Special Envoy’s work will augment the ongoing work of this Department which has been our nation’s leader when it comes to international efforts on climate change since the late 1980s through the establishment of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and negotiations related to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change and the Kyoto Protocol, as well as scores of other bilateral and multilateral climate-related initiatives.

The Special Envoy will serve as a principal advisor on international climate policy and strategy. He will be the Administration’s chief climate negotiator. He will be leading our efforts with United Nations negotiations and processes involving a smaller set of countries and bilateral sessions. Because the main cause of climate change is the burning of fossil fuel and because the solution rests with our ability to shift the global economy from a high to a low carbon energy base, the Envoy will be a lead participant in the development of climate and clean energy policy. He will participate in all energy-related policy discussions that, across our government, can have an impact on carbon emissions, and will be looking for opportunities to forge working alliances.

I’m extremely pleased to announce that Todd Stern has agreed to serve in this unprecedented role. Todd brings a vast experience in the private sector and government. While he worked as a senior advisor in the Clinton White House, he coordinated the administration’s overall efforts on climate change, and was the senior White House representative at the United Nations climate negotiations in Kyoto and Buenos Aires.

Todd has the benefit of understanding the intersection of policy and politics. And I want to note that he started his public service career working with my good friend, Senator Pat Leahy. Since leaving government, he has been actively engaged in domestic and international climate and energy issues as a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress and a frequent writer and speaker on this subject. Most importantly, Todd is a creative and clear thinker, a man of great sensibility and good judgment. And I’m confident that he will have credibility with a broad range of constituencies here at home and overseas.

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Todd Stern, our new Special Envoy for Climate Change. (Applause.)

MR. STERN: Thank you very much. Thank you, Secretary Clinton. Thank you all for joining me today. This is a great, great honor. I deeply appreciate the confidence that President Obama and Secretary Clinton have shown me. And I am excited by the opportunity to work for two such inspiring leaders who recognize the enormity of this problem and are deeply committed to solving it. And I – let me also say that 12 years ago, I worked for two other great and inspiring leaders, Bill Clinton and Al Gore, and it was a great privilege for me to do that. And it’s a great privilege for me now to work – be able to work for President Obama and Secretary Clinton.

Let me also express thanks to just a few people. To John Podesta, who more than anyone has been my mentor in Washington, and is a model for all those who fight the good fight. To Tim Wirth, Stu Eizenstat and Frank Loy, who have led the way in pursuing diplomatic progress on this issue and have taught me many valuable lessons. And most of all to my family who are here with me today. To my wife Jen, who is my best and closest confidant in all things, and who, by the way, for the record, introduced me to the world of Hillaryland, back in the day. To my three boys, Jacob, Zachary and Ben, who – Ben, who is here somewhere – there he is – celebrating his fourth birthday today at the State Department. (Laughter.) They are my inspiration in most everything I do, and certainly in taking on this challenge.

As the President and Secretary Clinton have made clear, climate change poses a profound threat to our future. If our deepest obligation in life is to care for our children and leave a better world for them and those who follow, then we must confront climate change now with an entirely new level of commitment, energy, and focus. Our scientists are telling us, emphatically, that the rate at which we are warming the planet is unsustainable and will cause vast and potentially catastrophic damage to our environment, our economy, and our national security.

And so the challenge before us is great, but so is the opportunity. Containing climate change will require nothing less than transforming the global economy from a high-carbon to a low-carbon energy base. But done right, this can free us from our dependence on foreign oil and become a driver for economic growth in the 21st century. President Obama and Secretary Clinton have left no doubt that a new day is dawning in the U.S. approach to climate change and clean energy. The time for denial, delay, and dispute is over. The time for the United States to take up its rightful place at the negotiating table is here.

As a threshold matter, we must first press forward in our own country with the kind of bold, far-reaching climate and energy plan that President Obama has called for. As the largest historic emitter of greenhouse gases, we can only expect to lead abroad if we are prepared to act decisively at home. Yet we can only meet the climate challenge with a response that is genuinely global. Eighty percent of greenhouse gas emissions are produced outside the United States, and a rapidly growing percentage is produced in emerging market countries.

We will need to engage in vigorous, creative diplomacy to dramatically reduce emissions. And we will need to work with vulnerable regions and countries to help them adapt to the climate change that is already locked into the system. In the years ahead, every large emitter will have to make major changes in the way that they use energy and manage their forests and lands. There is simply no other way to preserve a safe and livable world for our children.

This is no time for negotiators to cling to tired orthodoxies. Nor is it time for the kind of recriminations that have marred too many efforts in the past. We cannot afford that now. We should all acknowledge the good faith of those who are committed to this mission, pull our oars in the same direction, and do whatever it takes to get the job done. We will need a strong, new multilateral agreement. We will need partnerships and joint ventures among countries, collaborations between governments and the private sector, new technology and new financing. And we will need, above all, political will.

That will has been evident for years in many countries and at many levels in the United States among governors, mayors, and members of Congress, among business and labor leaders, among scientists, leaders of the faith community, NGOs and the public. And it is manifestly evident now with President Obama, Secretary Clinton, and the broader Obama Administration. I am eager to get started. I plan to run an inclusive process, reaching out to the broad range of interested parties in this country and, of course, consulting closely with members of Congress on both sides of the aisle.

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READ ALL of Secretary Clinton’s announcement.

  • johnnyA

    I guess Co2 of 350 parts-per-million only seems like a minscule number, right? I mean, 3&a-half steps of a 6 mile run is like a lot ya know?

    ‘man-made’ global warming is the biggest crock of crap that the counter-culture has ever tried to get over on the voting consumer.

  • bargal

    It looks like President Obama is truly changing America’s course for the better, and his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, continues to work tirelessly to see that her superior’s plans are implemented. I’m cautiously opitimistic.

  • bargal

    That’s right, johnnyA. The vast majority of the world’s climate scientists are counter-cultural hippy peaceniks who falsify their research.

    I’m glad we have you here to cast aside the scientific method and replace it with your indisputable homemade common sense. Your Nobel Prize will no doubt be awarded soon.

  • Astra14

    I’m glad to see our country finally stepping forward on the global warming issue. It was too long in coming!

  • Lisa NY

    Up here in Northern NY we are making a giant ice sculpture of Al Gore with his Nobel prize shoved up his ass….
    On and it is a bunch of crap !!!!!!

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/162241/17_200_Scientists_Dispute_Global_Warming

  • Lisa NY
  • devildog666

    Can I get a refund on my carbon credits?

  • wodiej

    I have serious reservations as to the climate change issue. I do however strongly feel we need to be using clean, renewable energy. Solar, wind, power etc. We have to get off the oil so we are not indebted to the Middle East or Venezula and people can drive any size car they want without it being a negative. Car emissions do produce alot of pollution. Whether it causes global warming is not the only issue. I’d like to breathe clean air, thank you.

    What caught my eye for this post was “Hillary Takes the Lead…” Of course she did.

  • bargal

    Lisa NY, the climate change denial petition your link refers to, which was supposedly signed by over 17,000 scientists, was shown to be a fraud 2 years ago. The credentials of the signers were never verified. In fact, anyone could send in their name and sign the petition. And even if the petition wasn’t a fraud, what does it prove? No one even suggested that any of the “17,200 scientists” who signed this petition were climatologists. Why would the opinion of a scientist whose field isn’t climate research be relevant to climate research?

    When it comes to climate, I prefer to rely on climatologists rather for expert opinion and
    the fact is that the consensus among climate scientists worldwide is that anthropogenic climate change is occurring.

    The fact that it’s winter in the United States, and you’re able to create pornographic ice sculptures in your yard, doesn’t change the data that points to a long-term trend towards global warming. You’re confusing weather with climate.

  • bargal

    wodiej,

    I’m also happy to see that Hillary is taking the lead in loyally carrying out President Obama’s agenda. Our president certainly chose the right person as his Secretary of State, didn’t he?

  • Lisa NY

    Bargal…
    Read my follow up link ….It posted as of December 2008….
    Excuse me whilst I shovel out from under more snow now.

  • Lisa NY

    In case you dont want to read it…I’ll quote it here

    The following are a few abbreviated quotes taken from the report, which contains the full quotes of the scientists as well as the names, biographies, and academic/institutional affiliation of international scientists who publicly dissent climate-change fear mongering:

    “I am a skeptic…. Global warming has become a new religion.” — Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.

    “Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…. Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” — Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.

    “The quantity of CO2 we produce is insignificant in terms of the natural circulation between air, water and soil…. I am doing a detailed assessment of the UN IPCC reports and the Summaries for Policy Makers, identifying the way in which the Summaries have distorted the science.” — South African Nuclear Physicist and Chemical Engineer Dr. Philip Lloyd, a UN IPCC co-coordinating lead author who has authored over 150 refereed publications.

    “Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.” — Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh.

    “All those urging action to curb global warming need to take off the blinkers and give some thought to what we should do if we are facing global cooling instead.” — Geophysicist Dr. Phil Chapman, an astronautical engineer and former NASA astronaut, served as staff physicist at MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology).

    “Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…. The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” — Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.

    “Earth has cooled since 1998 in defiance of the predictions by the UN-IPCC…. The global temperature for 2007 was the coldest in a decade and the coldest of the millennium … which is why ‘global warming’ is now called ‘climate change.’” — Climatologist Dr. Richard Keen of the Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences at the University of Colorado.

    “I have yet to see credible proof of carbon dioxide driving climate change, yet alone man-made CO2 driving it. The atmospheric hot-spot is missing and the ice core data refute this. When will we collectively awake from this deceptive delusion?” — Dr. G LeBlanc Smith, a retired Principal Research Scientist with Australia’s CSIRO.

    “Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly…. As a scientist I remain skeptical…. The main basis of the claim that man’s release of greenhouse gases is the cause of the warming is based almost entirely upon climate models. We all know the frailty of models concerning the air-surface system.” — Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology, and formerly of NASA, who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”

    Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…. When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” — UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.

    “The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds…. I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists.” — Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.
    Additionally, more than 31,000 American scientists have signed onto the Global Warming Petition Project, a petition that urges “the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.”

    The petition continues:

    There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.

  • Gary McGowan

    This report, and Hillary’s words are interesting.

    I’m putting this in the same column as Hillary’s stumping for Obama after the nomination was ripped away from her. Hillary jujitsu, I hope and pray. Keeping your enemies close to you kind of thing.

    I predict that in a year or two, public opinion and policy will have changed on this issue markedly (but then again, I consistently expect change to occur faster than it actually does, so there is that caveat.)

    I’m not about to get into arguing with people who believe in human-caused global warming in this thread… It get’s too ugly. What most of us here have in common is trusting Hillary to be intelligent. I’m willing to watch and wait a while on this one.

    I’m all for less pollution, clean air and lots more trees. I want good science to help steer policy. Who here doesn’t? We have a lot to build on! Let’s please try to be polite to one another.

  • bargal

    Lisa NY,

    Once again, hardly any of the people quoted in the senate minority report your link refers to are climate scientists. Economists, physicists, meteorologists, tv weathermen and engineers are not climatologists.

    Check out this link for a complete, comprehensive refutation of the ridiculous report you link to:

    http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/11/inhofe-morano-recycles-long-debunked-denier-talking-points-will-the-media-be-fooled-again/

  • bargal

    “Padded” would be an extremely generous description of this list of “prominent scientists.” Some would use the word “laughable.” For instance, since when have economists, who are pervasive on this list, become scientists, and why should we care what they think about climate science?

    I’m not certain a dozen on the list would qualify as “prominent scientists,” and many of those, like Freeman Dyson — a theoretical physicist — have no expertise in climate science whatsoever. I have previously debunked his spurious and uninformed claims, although I’m not sure why one has to debunk someone who seriously pushed the idea of creating a rocket ship powered by detonating nuclear bombs! Seriously.

    Even Ray Kurzweil, not a scientist but a brilliant inventor, is on the list. Why? Because he apparently told CNN and the Washington Post:

    These slides that Gore puts up are ludicrous, they don’t account for anything like the technological progress we’re going to experience…. None of the global warming discussions mention the word ‘nanotechnology. Yet nanotechnology will eliminate the need for fossil fuels within 20 years…. I think global warming is real but it has been modest thus far – 1 degree f. in 100 years. It would be concern if that continued or accelerated for a long period of time, but that’s not going to happen.

    And people say I’m a techno-optimist. So Kurzweil actually believes in climate science — rather than the reverse, as Inhofe claims — but thinks catastrophic global warming won’t happen because of a techno-fix that stops emissions. If wishes were horses … everyone would get trampled to death. In the real world, energy breakthroughs are very rare, as we’ve seen, and it’s even rarer when they make a difference in under several decades.

    Then we have the likes of this from Inhofe’s list:

    CBS Chicago affiliate Chief Meteorologist Steve Baskerville expressed skepticism that there is a “consensus” about mankind’s role in global warming.

    Wow, a TV weatherman expressed skepticism. If only the IPCC had been told of this in time, they could have scrapped their entire report. Seriously, Wikipedia says “Baskerville is an alumnus of Temple University and holds a Certificate in Broadcast Meteorology from Mississippi State University.” I guess Inhofe has a pretty low bar for “prominent scientists” — but then again he once had science fiction writer Michael Crichton testify at a hearing on climate science.

    I don’t mean to single out Baskerville. Inhofe has a lot of meteorologists on his list, including Weather Channel Founder John Coleman. I have previously explained why Coleman doesn’t know what he is talking about on climate, and why meteorologists in general have no inherent credibility on climatology. In any case, they obviously are NOT prominent scientists.

    http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/11/inhofe-morano-recycles-long-debunked-denier-talking-points-will-the-media-be-fooled-again/

  • Dawnelle

    Love HILLARY

    Hate that she’s gonna do all the work while Barry gets all the credit. Puke.

    Still haven’t made up my mind if I think she should have told Barry to take his SOS job and SHOVE it or

    do what she did and take the job. I guess I will have to watch and see.

    Global Warming skeptics remind me of the tards who still believe we never made it to the moon or the tards who say the jews never were gassed.

    So busy with the head stuck up their OWN A$$ they can’t see the forest through the trees.

    I’m not saying we should all start eating nuts and berries but staying vigilant is the best way to avoid disaster.

  • bargal

    Dawnelle, at least Secretary Clinton exhibits the respect and fair attitude towards the elected president of the United States that you so sadly lack.

  • Dawnelle

    she’s a POL

    that’s her job

    NOT mine

    Bambi’s people stole the election from Hillary in the primaries. I watched it happen. He will NEVER be gold to me. He’s a dirty chicago POL. He’s NOT my PRETZELDENT!

    BLECH

  • wodiej

    Still haven’t made up my mind if I think she should have told Barry to take his SOS job and SHOVE it or

    I know what you mean, but perhaps she felt it necessary in order to achieve a greater goal for the American people. At least I hope that is what her goal was. We’ll see…

  • Dawnelle

    probably so

    she’s light years above me in cleverness and patience

    4 sure

  • sandshark222

    Sorry folks… I’m not buying it.

    Notice now how there’s been a global cooling trend, it’s no longer called ‘global warming’, but rather ‘climate change’?

    I just don’t see NEARLY enough evidence of man made warming to push across trillions of dollars in new taxes and spending.

    Seems like an excuse to force socialism down our throats.

  • Dawnelle

    well an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure (they say)

    and

    it (at the very least) will create jobs

    btw when we switched over to the new bulbs our elec bill cut in HALF!! That to me says it’s worth it. ANd we have to have a FILTER on our water here it’s got so much crap flowing into it! I WANT THAT TO STOP!!!

    there are many aspects of global warming and climate change that include cleaning up the environment that I truly thing will save many lives (including my own)

  • Dawnelle

    typos

    too much in a hurry

  • bargal

    Dawnelle,

    Ms Clinton lost fair and square. She accepts this. It’s rather sad that you can’t.

    Secretary Clinton may sometimes feel bad that Mr Obamas defeated her, and that she is not sitting where Obamas now rightfully sits, but she’s forging a new and exciting career as an essential member of President Obama’s cabinet. Rejoice in that.

  • Gary McGowan

    More interesting stuff…

    President-elect Barack Obama and former Vice President Al Gore discuss “Repower America” (Dec. ’08, I think)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuiUZiUnr0U

  • Dawnelle

    give me a friggen break

    I watched it. She knows it.

    the caucuses were an OBAMA SCAM of intimidation and out right lies

    give me a friggen break

    and just cuz you say it doesn’t make it a fact about Hillary

    as I said

    She’s the BEST POL I’ve ever witnessed!

    (time for breakfast)

  • bargal

    Sandshark222,. I don’t know from which parallel universe you get your information, but there has not been a global cooling trend. Once again you are confusing short-term weather patterns with long term climate trends.

    the words “climate change” have nothing to do with a change in the views of climate scientists. In fact, they’ve always referred to “climate change”.

    It’s long been known, for instance, that general warming of the earth’s climate might lead to the disruption of the gulf stream, which would cause problematic cooling in North America and Europe.

  • bargal

    Dawnelle,

    obviously Hillary is not the best politician ever, or she would have run a better campaign and would probably be president today.

    Obama is obviously a better politician than she, which is why he today has the power to hire or fire Hillary Clinton.

  • Dawnelle

    lmao right keep telling yourself that

    then remember who the last two elections went to and then try saying it again

    lmao

    it’s turning out the BEST LIAR AND THIEF usually becomes CIC!

    This is the new banana republic.

  • wodiej

    being dishonest does not equate to running a better campaign. The problem with Obama supporters is they do not understand the concept of right and wrong. Apparently BO doesn’t either (Ayers, Wright Rezko)

    It is pointless for O supporters to come on here and praise him to glory. Some of us have common sense and know better.

  • Donna Brazile

    Barslurper:

    Stop the lovefest:-)

  • Dawnelle

    absolutely, thanks for saying it better than I

  • bargal

    Dawnelle,

    If you truly believe Obama is a criminal and a thief, then what does that make Hillary Clinton, who willingly declared loyalty to him, proudly delared him to be her president, and now works tirelessly in his administration to enact his policies?

    How dare you suggest Hillary Clinton willingly consorts with criminals and thieves!

  • wodiej

    notice the barfly didn’t answer my comment….they always change the subject.

  • bargal

    It’s so sad that while Hillary Clinton has bravely and intelligently accepted that the better person won the primaries and went on to fairly thrash the Republican candidate last November, her so-called supporters can’t accept reality and now stoop to accusing her of consorting with a thief and a criminal.

  • wodiej

    God Bless America!

  • Dawnelle

    lmao

    how dare I – hahahahhohohohee

    Hillary has too much energy to (imo) wait around for BHO to finish his ciggybutt, stop shaking and get his mind in gear for the work ahead!

    he’s a “frontman” for the new D’s (an empty suit)

    along with being a dirty chicago pol

    now I’m done chatting pour vous

    fini

  • wodiej

    We got your point ok? You think how Obama cheated to win is ok and we dont’.

  • bargal

    Um, wodiej, your comment wasn’t a question. It was a collection of stale election campaign innuendo and insult, so why would I answer it?

    Do you even understand what a question is? Here some questions:

    Why would Hillary Clinton willingly work for a boss who is a crminal and thief? Why did she campaign for President Obama once she failed to become the nominee?

    What are you insinuating about Hillary Clinton’s understanding of right and wrong?

    I take offense at your attack on Hillary’s good name.

  • wodiej

    did they cancel school today or did you skip to attend a Kool Aid party?

  • Dawnelle

    in your list of “criminal” or wacked out friends of Bambi don’t forget

    Pfleger (omg is he a WACKjob), Moss, Meeks, Richardson, Dodd, Edwards, Kerry (verdict is still out on him) and the list seems to be endless

    and yet – they voted for him

    (shaking my head in disbelief)

    The world bought & paid for it. I hope they don’t regret their purchase.

  • bargal

    wodiej,

    If what you claim were true, then you would also have to accept that Hillary Clinton also thinks cheating is okay, because she accepted the results of the primaries and campaigned for Obama and took a post in his cabinet.

    You should take a leaf from Hillary’s book and accept Obama as the legitimate, fairly elected president. Embrace the opportunities a democratic presidency offers.

    I know it sucks when your preferred candidate fails. Lord knows I’ve felt that pain. But accusing Hillary Clinton of being dishonest is taking things too far.

  • bargal

    wodeij,

    It’s sad that you equate my admiration of Hillary Clinton with “Kool Aid” drinking.

    What has Hillary Clinton ever done to you that you’d think so little of her?

  • bargal

    Dawnelle,

    It is good that Secretary Hillary Clinton is so eager and energetic as she performs the tasks assigned her by President Obama.

  • wodiej

    I said nowhere in my comments that Hillary is dishonest. I said earlier I did not know what her motives were for accepting SOS, perhaps she is doing it for the greater good of the country. I don’t know…we’ll have to wait and see. Hillary did speak up about O’s tactics during the primary and she got accused of being racist and whining. She was damned if she did and damned if she didn’t.

    I didn’t accept Bush and I won’t accept Obama either. I could write a lengthy post on why but it would be pointless.

  • bargal

    Donna,

    It’s disappointing that a woman of your reputation can’t manage better than a trite insult based on a humorless reimagining of my online name.

    Perhaps, Donna, you also believe that Hillary Clinton is a dishonest woman who willingly traded her principles for a post in the cabinet of an unfairly-elected president.

    Is that it, Donna?

  • C.S.

    Ms Clinton? Secretary Clinton? “President Obama”? Now that shows objectivity. Or do you not understand our Constitutional democracy at all?

    Senator Clinton ran a campaign that set primary voting records and no election is fair when you steal delegates of other candidates to give to another party chosen candidate. Can’t rewrite that history; the whole world was watching.

    And Soeroto/Obama (still don’t know his legal name) can play president all he wants but our government leaked that his choice wasn’t Senator Clinton and the Secretary of State job had been promised to Senator Kerry. But Secretary of State Clinton is doing an excellent job as Acting President, as you said.

  • bargal

    Hillary Clinton accepted the results of the primaries. She campaigned for Obama and embraced his victory with enthusiasm. She has now eagerly accepted a post in President Obama’s cabinet, and yields to his authority.

    Either you are wrong about President Obama, or Hillary Clinton lacks character and honor.

  • Winston

    The biggest joke of all is that water vapor, another tri-atomic gas like CO2, is never ever mentioned for its green house effect. There is a zillion times as much water vapor in the air yet CO2 is treated like it was poison.

    I am not happy to see cars emitting smog but this stuff about CO2 is crazy. Chlorofluorocarbons are in fact very dangerous but CO2 is natural and is necessary for and regulated by plant life.

    And the Sun is never implicated in any secular trend of warming either, if there can be said to be any tend at all.

    That is why they call it Climate CHANGE instead of Global WARMING. The Gorons are hedging their bets.

  • Dawnelle

    go back to cnn jamal (bambi can’t even SPELL HONOR)

    this just pulled from Sugar-n-Spice

    Boy oh boy, just imagine, we’ll all have so much to be thankful for starting tomorrow, well today actually since this will mark the first full week of The One’s presidency. Yippee! Now, the lions will start laying down with the lambs right? Wrong!

    I heard the other day that $200 million of this proposed “stimulus” package is slated for “repairs” at the National Mall, including planting grass seeds. I nearly nearly lost it. People are losing jobs left and right. Can’t afford to put food on their tables and this is the time to fix up the National Mall? Yes, that’s right. We can’t have those foreign tourists to Washington, those hoping to get a glimpse of the Messiah, to have to walk across a crappy patch of grass now would we? From Pajamas Media:

    Here are just a few of the programs and projects that have been included in the House Democrats’ proposal:

    * $650 million for digital TV coupons.
    * $6 billion for colleges/universities — many which have billion dollar endowments.
    * $166 billion in direct aid to states — many of which have failed to budget wisely.
    * $50 million in funding for the National Endowment of the Arts.
    * $44 million for repairs to U.S. Department of Agriculture headquarters.
    * $200 million for the National Mall, including grass planting.
    * $400 million for “National Treasures.”

    11. Almost one-third of the so called tax relief in the House Democrats’ bill is spending in disguise, meaning that true tax relief makes up only 24 percent of the total package — not the 40 percent that President-elect Obama had requested.

    Continue reading Obama’s First Full Week: Straight Ahead

    Posted by SUGAR

  • bargal

    Dawnelle,

    This is what you’re reduced to–posting lame Republican Party talking points in an attempt to denigrate a government in which Hillary Clinton serves, just because you’re bitter about the results of an intra-party campaign that ended six months ago.

    Have you ever considered that the major restoration work required on the National Mall is spending on infrastructure, which creates jobs and stimulates the economy? Do you even know the unemployment rate in Washington DC, Dawnelle? This is classic Democratic policy-making, Dawnelle.

    But you apparently would prefer that President Obama give tax cuts to the rich.

  • Dawnelle

    blah blah blah

    did someone leave the barn door open again?

    I need a fly swatter. OR a REALLY BIG BUG LIGHT!

    lol

    this buzzing noise is just plain irritating as well as being immature and ignorant

    LIFE (takes time)

  • benny

    ‘Our president’. lol

  • benny

    grow up, kid

  • ces

    Gosh, things really are heating up around here…

    /rolling eyes

  • Winston

    Why would the opinion of a scientist whose field isn’t climate research be relevant to climate research?

    The fact that you asked this question shows that you are not informed about the subject matter, and that you have never worked on an interdisciplinary team devoted to science or engineering. A climatologist knows very little physics, physical chemistry, thermodynamics, solar physics, the ionosphere, the magnetosphere, the hydrosphere, etc. etc.

    A climatologist is a specialist in none of the fundamental disciplines that are considered traditional hard core science. Climatology is far less rigorous and more prone to subjective interpretations. It does not draw the best minds either.

    If you knew the difficulty of the subject matter you would welcome scientific opinion from the domains where the climatologists themselves in fact go for expert advice.

  • Obama: Dubya II – Electric Boogaloo

    The Dems think we’re all a bunch of dimwitted idiots…well, maybe the Obamabots are, but yesterday’s “pork” is now suddenly today’s “stimulus programs”. Captain Kumbaya and his boy wonders to start framing it that way.

    It’s like the Dems in CA trying to impose new “fees” instead of “taxes” because they can only raise taxes with a 2/3rds vote. Whoever put that into law is a genius, but figured they could get away with it by changing the language.

    It’s all about flim-flamming and bamboozeling with the Dems

  • bargal

    Danielle,

    Once again you reveal the maturity and intelligence of the average PUMA.

    No wonder you and your kind were impotent and ignored in November. Hillary’s true supporters voted for Obama en masse, and Hillary spurned you as one would spurn rabid dogs. Burns, don’t it?

  • bargal

    And by the way, Dawnelle, what’s with calling me “jamal”? What does that even mean? I’m really, really curious…

  • bargal

    Jesus, do you people have any responses other than “obambi” and “grow up” and “kool aid” and “school’s out”? You’re like bots in a yahoo chat room.

  • Donna Brazile

    Barslurper:

    My momma told me the “Rulz is the Rulz,” or were you sleep walking through the primaries.

    Everybody knows Donna don’t know crap:-) That’s why I love her so.

    Stop the slobberfest!

  • Zut alors

    good grief. This thread has become quite binary: trashing everything Obama does and uncritical fawning over Hillary. And you complain how nasty Obama’s nasty supporters are! Hillary took SOS because she was bored and lacked influence: the same reason she ran for POTUS. And as we saw in the primaries, she wasn’t exactly overloaded with senate and house support. Hence SOS, where she has clout. I would have happily voted for either candidate but have never believed that either are in it for the good of the people: if they wanted that they’d be doctors, priests or teachers.

  • jd4hill

    Her President, not her “superior.” Just can’t resist, can you??

  • Donna Brazile

    Barslurper:

    Momma says don’t take the Lords name in vain:-)

    Stop the lovefest!

  • jane

    Bargal, good for you for trying, wish I could help, but I fear it would all be for naught.
    I spent a sleepless night listening to conservative talk radio and was shocked and appalled at what I heard, but really not that much different than what you read here.
    I am really sad about this.

  • warehouse553

    She wants to still be President. I don’t think she respects him. What is there to respect. She needs black support. Its that simple. Hopefully they won’t turn on her again. Obama is in over his head. I’ll bet Hillary is running things more thn we know. Obama has no ideas of his own but is only concerned with being reelected!

  • cynic

    Is it in any way reasonable to believe that we can dump 27 thousand million metric tons of carbon dioxide into the earth’s atmosphere yearly, while simultaneously slashing and burning thousands of acres of rainforest, without dire consequences to the global climate? We’re living in a closed system. We’ve been doing this since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Ignoring the mounting evidence is sheer lunacy.

    There’s no liberal science and no conservative science, when you’re looking at real science.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions

  • Mel’s Bar

    Solipsism isn’t your friend.

    Really, it isn’t.

  • Mel’s Bar

    I know what you mean, difficult to troll when all you can see is you.

    And he has no idea what that means, or its greater implications.

  • POdVet

    Get a clue TWIT!
    PUMA’s did NOT vote for Obama en mass. It was Republicans that didn’t turn out allowing the Abomination that is the Obamanation to become reality. Those same Republicans are already regretting that decision! Just think, in a few years when we have President Jeb Bush…you can realize it was morons like you who made the impossible possible.

  • cynic

    We all might have been watching, but some of us seem to have seen different things. Some saw fair play, some saw foul, and some of us just sighed and saw the game of American politics being played as usual.

    One thing that all successful politicians have in common is that they play the game to win. I doubt if any of the 2008 candidates would dispute that.

  • OG

    I think that they shud have postponed the stupid digital TV idea indef until things get better. Dunces – the lot of ‘em.

  • mary

    OBAMA, BY APPOINTING THIS SPECIAL ENVOY UNDER HILLARY’S AUSPICES IN STATE SHOWS HE HAS RESPECT FOR HER AND THIS WILL BE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP—ONE HOPES…..MAJOR NEWS!!!!GREAT FOR HILLARY’S DEPT.

    “This is the beginning of a Beautiful Friendship…”???????Let’s hope so for all our sakes.
    (I’d feel better if Favreau was given Das Boot, tho!)

    THANKS SUSAN—THIS IS VERY VERY INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT FOR HILLARY’S ROLE AS BECOMING MORE OF A REAL TRUSTED PARTNER IN OBAMA’S NEW ADMINISTRATION…..FANTASTIC TO have ENVIRONMENT IN THE STATE….

  • mary

    Bargal

    What are you inferring? Hillary has ALWAYS WORKED HARD! Obama’s Axelord of Evil misogynist campaign used their dirty Chicago rat-sewer tricks (remember Sen.Alice Palmer?) to throw Hillary off the fighting stage on Round 1 when she was WINNING! remember? What in Zeus’ name were you thinking of…Let’s bring Obama down from thte pedestal you’ve artificially created for this Media Messiah and quit parting the waters for Him still! See Hillary for what she is–capable far superior to anyone in this administration and supremely qualified to LEAD!

    3:00Am at least will come when Hillary is next door!!!

  • mary

    Gary

    Yes, indeed! Let’s focus on HIllary’s latest accomplishment!!

  • mary

    bargal

    Let’s cut out the hyperbolic sycophantic mantra…”Hillary loyally” performing Obama’s Agenda etc. etc….let’s just see this for what it truly is: Obama trusts and admires HIllary’s phenomenal ability to get things done and he RESPECTS Hillary. OBAMA IS LOYAL TO HILLARY’S TESTED AND TRUE EXPERTISE….HE HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO ALLOW THE BEST TO RULE AND TO ASSIST THEM. IF HE’S A TRUE LEADER, HE RECOGNIZES HILLARY’S ABILITY TO LEAD. Surely, give credit to Obama’s political weltanschauung as being far less slight and ethereal than others have done to their disappointment…

  • Ferd Berfle

    Our president

    There’s that pesky mouse again that shows up in every bot’s pocket.

  • mary

    Zut

    Your lack of insight is clearly portrayed in your statement that Hillary took the SOS out of “boredom”. Yah, and your grandmama wore army boots in Turkemnistan! Come on, now, don’t give us your OBAMYOPIC message. We’ve had enough of that crap throughout the STOLEN PRIMARY. Go check around to find out how rigged the whole Chicag0 rat-sewer caucuses were and check out the Women’s Media Center to get your much needed dosage on Media and Misogyny at the expense of Hillary–just as the Axelrod Boys wanted it…kicking her off the stage on Round 1!

    Come on, give up your OBAMYOPIA and see Hillary for the hardworking (not lazy) competent and intelligent woman who REALLY GIVES A DAMN ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS, AND ISSUES THAT COUNT.

    Now go get your Kool-aid and leave me alone!

    PERIODICALLY, OBADRAMA’S APOSTLES GET FEELING DOWN, AND START LAUNCHING ATTACKS AGAINST HILLARY ADMIRERS TO BOOST THEIR MESSIAH’S APPEAL…

    P.S. You no longer have to. He is the Prez now, Sweetie!

  • mary

    bargal

    Why don’t you go get a cardboard of O’Bama and get drunk! It’ll do you some good since your koolaid is running out in these humble quarters, Sweetie!
    Get a Life! Quit being nasty. you no longer have too. Your Sweetie is the Prez, now! Relax, Sweetie!
    Impecunious dunderheads seem to have developed encephalic sclerosis in these here posts

    BARGAL, SWEETIE, BUY SOME CARDBOARD!

  • Ferd Berfle

    GW is real, imo. The only real debates left are what the cause is (several have been advanced) and whether it can be reversed (likely), can reverse itself (is cyclical), or not be reversed (not a likely happenstance). I do not know the answer and wouldn’t hazard a guess.

    If you knew the difficulty of the subject matter you would welcome scientific opinion from the domains where the climatologists themselves in fact go for expert advice.

    You’re spot on. BTW-I’m a chemist.

  • mary

    barbal Sweetie

    No, wake up and do some research! Hillary did not Lose fair and square. HILLARY WON 200,000 MORE POPULAR VOTES AND THE NOMINATION WAS STOLEN FROM HER!

    America needed a face lift and the trojan horse had to get in….it’s all about muscling out the more competent capale competition! Axelord and the misogynsit meda fratboys went to town and kicked Hillary off the stage before Round 1 finished…Remember how they were asking her to throw inthe towel? WAKE UP, BARGAL AND STOP DRINKING THE KOOL AID. OBAMARAMA IS THE PREZ NOW, SWEETIE!

  • mary

    bargal

    No, Hillary is the better person and politician OBVIOUSLY YOU USE THE WORD VERY APPROPRIATELY. It may be “obviously” but BEHIND THE SCENES THE OBAMA GANG STOLE THE NOMINATION. READ YOUR FACTS!

    HILLARY WON 200,000 + more Popular Vote than the xeroxed candidate! Call up Sen. Alice Palmer and she’ll tell you how Obamarama “WON”!! you;re in denial lethary, sweetie!

  • mary

    bargal

    No, Hillary is the better person and politician OBVIOUSLY YOU USE THE WORD VERY APPROPRIATELY. It may be “obviously” but BEHIND THE SCENES THE OBAMA GANG STOLE THE NOMINATION. READ YOUR FACTS!

    HILLARY WON 200,000 + more Popular Vote than the xeroxed candidate! Call up Sen. Alice Palmer and she’ll tell you how Obamarama “WON”!! you;re in denial lethargy, sweetie!

  • mary

    BARGAL

    YOU SOUND LIKE OBAMA HAS HIRED YOU TO DO SOME PR FOR HIM!??WHAT’S YOUR RACKET, MAN?

  • mary

    BARGAL

    YOU’RE AN INSUFFERABLE KOOL-AID REFUGEE…applications for Immigration to Canada are at an office close to you…unless Obama starts paying you a bit more to keep you in a civil service job..

  • bargal’s boss

    Bobbie Joe, we got glasses that need a-washin’ and a bar to tend. How many times have I told you to stay off my laptop, leave them good folks at NQ alone, and get back to your laptop, as in dance? Get back to work or you’re fired and so is your sister.

  • Wisewoman

    bargirl. It’s obvious that your motive is to try to denigrate Hillary. I am an AA female and I tell you Obama is a liar, cheater and a race-baiter, unfit to be POTUS. Hillary knows this as well but she felt that due to the mess the Repubs made Dems would be better running the country. Did you not hear her rationale for campaigning for Obama? She never said bad things about Mccain or Palin. She realized that after telling the Am people this, she had to step up to the plate and try to help our country in any way possible. Have you forgotten that Bill said he was surprised Obama offered her the position? Obama needs her, not the other way around. IN FACT HE NEEDS ALMOST EVERYONE WHO WORKED IN THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING AND HE DOESN’T KNOW ABLE PEOPLE WHO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT NOTHING. So just STFU since you sound like more of an idiot than Obama does.

  • Wisewoman

    My post did not appear. will try this.

  • http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 VinceP1974

    Man made Global Warming is a scam. No responsible people should be supporting any government action to regulate CO2. CO2 does not lead to higher temps on Earth. C02 increases in the air have historically been AFTER the air temp rises and CO2 levels drop after the temps drop.

    The sun, sunspots, cosmic rays, water vapor, clouds, volcanoes, and the ocean all are much more influential

    What Obama/Clinton are doing is going to led to a crippling even more of our economy and further impoverishment. And it indicates to me that they are poor thinkers, they have poor advisers and are either incompetently advised or are liars.

  • mary

    BARGAL,

    YOU ARE AN IMPECUNIOUS DUNDERHEAD. GET LOST,LOST SOLIPSISTIC SOUL THAT YOU TRULY ARE, YOU PITIFUL APOSTLE OF OBAMADOOM

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  • UKforDems

    Vince, wow I just actually visited what you link to. You are a proper arms out brigade fascist POS. Well at least you do not pretend to hide it?

    When you have kids do you give birth to baby pillow cases?

  • http://lifestyle-health-news.com/video-theme/quit+smoking.html Eric

    csiro diet…

    I found your post interesting and share most of your views, but just dont get your second point….

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