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Reactions to Obama’s first televised interview on Al-Arabiya

Here’s part of CNN’s AC360 coverage of — and commentary on — Obama’s interview with al-Arabiya last night (we have the full two-part interview below). Huffington Post has the full text. I find the panel’s comments about the probable reaction by Al Qaeda to be interesting, if just a tad over-the-moon adulatory, heh:

From the arch-conservative Weekly Standard, we get concerns unique to that one publication. (Nowhere else, in any press or blog account on last night’s interview, did I read concerns that Obama’s remarks about Iran might infer a more lax attitude towards its building of nuclear weapons, which both Obama and Secretary Clinton have said is unacceptable.) In “Obama on a Nuclear Iran: Yes They Can?,” the commentary hits on a theme that we who have questioned Obama intensely have worried about (that he’ll say whatever he thinks people want to hear, rather than conceiving his own independent judgment, hence our frequent use of terms like “backtrack” or “flip-flop”):

Wouldn’t a simple ‘no, a nuclear Iran is unacceptable to the United States and our allies’ have sufficed? Instead Obama says that Iran’s pursuit of a nuclear weapon is “unhelpful,” that it’s “not conducive to peace.” When Obama was in Israel, he said that “a nuclear Iran would pose a grave threat and the world must prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.” He added that he would “take no options off the table in dealing with this potential Iranian threat.” In the first debate of the general election, Obama reiterated that the United States “cannot tolerate a nuclear Iran.” But when Obama has the chance to speak directly to the Muslim world, he can only muster retread rhetoric from his inaugural address about clenched fists and open hands.

President Bush was incapable of engaging the Muslim world with his own words, but neither was it possible for the Muslim world to confuse his view of American interests in that region. President Obama has the potential to secure real progress through his skill as a communicator, but there’s always been a fear that some portion of his success in negotiating difficult issues was the result of a willingness, or perhaps a compulsion, to tell his audience whatever it is he thinks they want to hear.

It is encouraging that President Obama has chosen highly seasoned experts on foreign policy such as Secretary Clinton and envoys like George Mitchell, now on a lengthy tour of the Middle East and Europe. Especially since, as Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey notes, Obama has a “charming and dangerous naivete.” Hillary would have given a very different interview, wouldn’t she. (That’s not a question, since it’s a fact.)

Hillary, by the way, is expected to give an address shortly, which we’ll get to you as soon as possible.

Since we often don’t get much insight or reflection in our own newspapers and television/radio outlets, I decided to check out foreign media outlets. Most don’t have anything written up yet, but I did manage to find the following:

While the New York Times’s laudatory title was “Obama Signals New Tone in Relations With Islamic World,” The Guardian, a liberal UK newspaper, adopted a more critical, objective approach:


Little of substance, but Obama’s tone was striking

Al-Arabiya’s exclusive with the president was an important moment, though he failed to mention Gaza

[...] Obama’s main message to al-Arabiya, the Dubai-based, Saudi-owned rival to the more popular but far more strident al-Jazeera, was that Americans are not the “enemy” of the Muslim world – a perception that has taken hold in the years since the 9/11 attacks and George Bush’s declaration of a “war on terror”. (continued below)

No matter that this was a reprise of a much-discussed theme in his inaugural address last week. It certainly bears repeating as a high-profile exercise in public diplomacy. But there was no news at all about changes to specific policies that would demonstrate the dawn of a genuinely new approach. The interviewer, Hisham Melhem, got an enviable exclusive – but not a smidgeon of a scoop.

Obama’s best line was his call for the “language of respect” in dealings with the Muslim world – though he also readily agreed with his interviewer that there had been a “demonisation” of America.

The president’s call for the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian peace talks will be welcomed as another signal of his determination to play an active role from the start – in stark contrast to Bush. That has already been underlined by the dispatch of the Northern Ireland veteran George Mitchell, his special Middle East envoy, for his first talks in the region. [...]

If the al-Arabiya interview contained little or no substance, Obama’s emollient, intelligent tone was still striking. … Read all.

New York Magazine writes:

Obama’s tack was to make a conciliatory attitude toward the Muslim world seem the most deadly threat to terrorists and their efforts to draw followers. He said men like Osama bin Laden “seem nervous” because in the face of a new attitude toward America, “their ideas are bankrupt.” …

As always, Memeorandum.com has a large collection of stories and opinion pieces (both blog and MSM) on the story. But, for some reason, they missed Ed Morrissey’s essay at Hot Air, which is very informative:

[Obama's remarks about Israel and Gaza]

I included the entire question and answer to give the entire context of this exchange, in which Obama faltered badly. The main driver of Israeli-Palestinian conflict isn’t settlements, and hasn’t been for some time. It’s the rocket launches coming from Hamas in Gaza, and to a lesser extent from Islamic Jihad there as well. How can we know this? Israel hasn’t had to conduct a military exercise in the West Bank for years, where the settlements are located. On the other hand, they’ve had to conduct several military operations in Gaza in the few years since Ariel Sharon dismantled the settlements there.

Obama should have reminded his interviewer of those facts. That’s a big failure, and a missed opportunity to get the record straight in the Arab world. And there’s more, as Scott Johnson points out:

Q: President Bush framed the war on terror conceptually in a way that was very broad, “war on terror,” and used sometimes certain terminology that the many people — Islamic fascism. You’ve always framed it in a different way, specifically against one group called al Qaeda and their collaborators. And is this one way of –

THE PRESIDENT: I think that you’re making a very important point. And that is that the language we use matters. And what we need to understand is, is that there are extremist organizations — whether Muslim or any other faith in the past — that will use faith as a justification for violence. We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith’s name.

And so you will I think see our administration be very clear in distinguishing between organizations like al Qaeda — that espouse violence, espouse terror and act on it — and people who may disagree with my administration and certain actions, or may have a particular viewpoint in terms of how their countries should develop. We can have legitimate disagreements but still be respectful. I cannot respect terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians and we will hunt them down.

But to the broader Muslim world what we are going to be offering is a hand of friendship.

Again, the naiveté comes through clearly in this exchange. The terrorist organizations themselves have a wide base of support among Muslims in the Arab world, as well as with the Iranian government, if we include Hamas and Hezbollah. Obama makes al-Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbollah sound like the Baader-Meinhofs or the tax-resister militias here in the US. They’re not. They’re well-funded and strongly supported, at least until that support starts costing people more than they’d like. Terrorism doesn’t begin and end with AQ at all, and if Obama doesn’t understand that, then he’s extremely ill-prepared for his task in the next four years of stopping terrorists, a task at which Bush succeeded after 9/11.

Unlike some others, I didn’t mind Obama’s decision to grant al-Arabiya this honor. Obama has a great deal of popularity in the Muslim world, and that can be a great asset to the US if used properly. Obama could have taken the opportunity to explain some hard truths while extending the hand of friendship. Instead, he took the opportunity to pander.

This last section, on the extremist groups, is particularly important for us to discuss. I’d especially like to get Larry Johnson’s reaction to Morrissey’s POV.

  • Patrick Henry

    Another Excellent Piece susan..All of this Must be looked at carefully an You and no Quarter do a good job..This is a great PUBLIC FORUM where voices and opinions can be heard and read..

    No Doubt Every Foreign Government and Intelligence Agency is doing just That..
    They probaly reach the same conclusionsPossible and explore Obamas Words for any Sign of weakness and for a Psycololgical profile..

    After eight years of Bush Policy..The Muslims are pretty stirred up..and will look at Presaident obama
    as just “Another American President” and another Infidel..untilthier Leadership and clerics say otherwise..

  • lark

    especially like to get Larry Johnson’s reaction to Morrissey’s POV

    Lets get Larry’s reaction and then we will have a compass.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    I want Larry’s POV because he has such expertise in those terrorist groups and just how strong they are. His POV is complex.

    You’ll recall his 2001 op-ed in the NYTimes in which he downplayed, somewhat, the threat of terrorism. I.e., people have a vastly greater chance of getting killed on a freeway than of ever being hit by terrorists, but people fixate far more on terrorists than on car accidents.

    But I think that part of Obama’s rationale last night was to assure the leaders of the ME countries, whose peoples are in an uproar over what’s gone on in Gaza. They see those highly disturbing images of dead Palestinian children and adults, and it inflames their hatred of Israel and the U.S., which they regard as Israel’s partner in all of these attacks.

    So we have leaders like Turki, the longtime brilliant intelligence figure in Saudi Arabia, and Mubarak in Egypt — and probably the leaders of Jordan and other countries — all contacting both Obama and Hillary with their distress about the upticks of anger and stress in their own populations, and they need HELP from us in quelling those sentiments.

    We shall see if Obama’s interview was a good first step. Then we’ll see what Hillary and George Mitchell do.

    Whatever they do is going to take time and repeated efforts.

    You noted, I assume, that George Mitchell said he is NOT going to visit with Hamas leaders — about the only group / national leaders he’s not meeting with. That also sends a message.

    I don’t envy any of them. How to improve the situations in those countries is nearly impossible but at least they can try to begin to calm the people down.

  • http://baddemocrat08.wordpress.com/ obamastolemyboyfriend

    I am very afraid of President Experiment Barack Obama. As we have well seen, he is a very divisive person, even though all the MSM preached was unity. To me, terrorists are no dummies, they know how to manipulate people and so the “get” people. Anyone capable of pulling off a 9/11 attack is very devious and it didn’t happen overnight. They studied how to infiltrate. Do we think they don’t know how to study Obama and see right through him? I saw right through him so I have no belief whatsoever that any, ‘let’s be friends” bs is going to work or even any “just words” without action will work.

    Hello. Terrorists do not care if muslim children have health care or better school. Terrorists care about one thing. Invoking terror in people. They are not going to give up their fight because Obama now claims to be muslim and tells them, hey, guys, the US likes us. Look, they elected me with a middle name Hussein. It’s all good. Now let’s hug and make friends and the world will be happy. Am I suppose to believe that terrorists care about being happy? I don’t. Terrorists are terrorists. If they cared about people in the world they would have been politicians or missionaries instead. i wish Obama would have chosen the missionary path instead of politics!

  • oowawa

    Little of Substance, But Obama’s Tone Was Striking . . . Obama’s emollient intelligent tone . . .

    I am reminded of a snake charmer, soothing the weaving cobra as it emerges from its container with a hypnotic little melody . . .

    O’s always been good at this Svengali stuff. Let’s hope he we don’t get bit! That most definitely is a deadly snake he’s serenading!

  • mountainaires

    Feh.

    Read someone who knows what he’s talking about on Israel, not Ed Morrissey:

    Israel’s Lies
    Henry Siegman, director of the US Middle East Project in New York, is a visiting research professor at SOAS, University of London. He is a former national director of the American Jewish Congress and of the Synagogue Council of America.

    http://www.lrb.co.uk:80/v31/n02/sieg01_.html

    Morrissey’s assertions are the brazen lies of a propagandist who is loyal only to his own ideology:

    The main driver of Israeli-Palestinian conflict isn’t settlements, and hasn’t been for some time. It’s the rocket launches coming from Hamas in Gaza, and to a lesser extent from Islamic Jihad there as well. How can we know this? Israel hasn’t had to conduct a military exercise in the West Bank for years, where the settlements are located. On the other hand, they’ve had to conduct several military operations in Gaza in the few years since Ariel Sharon dismantled the settlements there.

    Israel just concluded an operation in the West Bank–they invaded a home and arrested 7 children, interrogated them for hours and took them off to prison.

    The settlements continue to expand at an exponential rate in the West Bank. This week CBS did a spot on it on 60 Minutes.

    And, the wall [in violation of international law] continues to divide and steal Palestinian property in the West Bank.

    Moreover, Israel pulled out its settlements in Gaza, but continued to ghetto-ize Gaza, with a blockade that caused rampant starvation and malnutrition. Israeli intentions were designed–as they always are–to provoke conflagration in Gaza. They couldn’t pulverize Gaza with the Israeli settlers imprisoned there alongside the Palestinians, now could they? What would happen to public opinion then, in Israel?!

    So, the settlements most definitely ARE a huge part of the problem; it is Israel’s strategy to create “facts on the ground.”

    When Israeli settlers own all of the land in the West Bank, what’s anyone going to do about it? That is the entire point of Israeli strategy to stall on any peace process over the course of the past 30 years. The Taba outline was rejected by Ehud Barack [using an election as the excuse] because it would have locked Israel into the 67 borders. The Israelis knew they couldn’t continue to steal Palestinian land once that happened.

  • Tess

    Dumb me. I thought he was black. This week he’s Moslem.

  • Docelder

    men like Osama bin Laden “seem nervous” because in the face of a new attitude toward America, “their ideas are bankrupt.”

    So, because we now have a hopey-changey face to the world… these guys are nervous because they are now what? irrelevant? I still feel this was a backhanded passive aggressive “throw down” of the gauntlet.

  • Mel’s Bar

    Shouldn’t we treat Israel, diplomatically and militarily, as we would any other nation, in order to gain a greater understanding of the ME dynamic?

    What if it were France taking these meausres against Gaza, given the same circumstances, how would we react?

    Sometimes I think we look upon Israel as an extension of America, and it is not.

    It is, instead, its’ own naiton, with its own agenda, an agenda which sometimes runs counter to the better interests of the US.

    We can’t proceed on the simple assumption Israel=all good, Arabs=all bad, and expect to succeed in creating any level of stability. We must examine our own prejudices, in regard to the Arabs.

    Having said that, I’m wondering about the troop increase in Afgahnistan: why is it needed, specifically?

    Is there a final goal, what is the outlined mission, and how do they intend to achieve it?

    From what I’m reading, they seem to want to send troops in a manner analogous to Viet Nam, or even Iraq (though I undersatnd the cultural dynamics are different).

    How is this any different from Cheney’s planning, and isn’t this what we’re NOT supposed to do, go in with an ill defined, or unrealistic mission?

    How are we fighting terrorism, then, and why can we expect to succeed in Afghanisatan where Israel is failing in Gaza, and elsewhere?

  • lark

    OMG, SusanUnPC talked to me :) I’m honored. No I don’t have that kind of memory (anymore). I live mostly in the here and now. But the interview Obama gave is quite significant to me because it jogs my long term memory and makes absolute connection with my POV about what the Arab, Persian and Islamic efforts are all about, specially in these post-Modern days.

    As you recall, Modernism began around that time when the Muslim were expelled from Europe and specifically Spain. America was discovered or colonized after that. Mpov is that Islam is basically jealous of Western civilization and now that they have the money and the means they are out to conquer ‘our’ world again. Yes, fundamentally I am a Christian.

    So you see all these problems as complicated and they are. But impov no effort of diplomacy from our part, iow, from our new State Department are particularly or will be particularly significant or successful in the grand scheme of a resurgent Islamic conquering strategy. On the other hand, Obama, with his interview gave up quite a few signals that may be significant to them. So, impov Muslims are not out to kill us but rather to conquer us. And when Obama says many on his family are Muslims, he is saying something that is quite welcome and attractive and fits nicely with their strategy.

    Anyway, if I may say, it seems odd or naive or counterproductive from mpov to send envoys to listen and clearly competent SoS to a job in which one has already some bias or lets say conclusions that seem are already set – and what I mean is – provide signs of ‘surrender,’ otherwise called ‘weakness.’ So Obama prefers to initiate negotiations by giving away his weaknesses. Nice, no? He said he would act in such a way during his campaign and people liked so much they made him President.

    In any strategy or negotiation giving away your next move is quite daunting. Basically energy consuming. Because you need to think a whole new next move and that can be exhausting. So yes, Mitchell and Hillary have quite a job in front of them.

    We are at war with a powerful religion that needs to catch up with these post-Modern times and does not have a clue about how to go about it. And Obama is bent on giving them a little advantage. At what expense?

  • mountainaires

    The right-wing isn’t happy with this interview; the left-wing isn’t happy with it either. Glenn Greenwald says Obama’s just going to continue Bush policies in Israel and Afghanistan; Chris Floyd feels the same way. Neither of them are any more impressed by Obama’s interview than Morrissey. The problem isn’t these people; the problem is the Israeli Lobby’s choke-hold on our political processes. I hope Obama finds a way to navigate around them. But, all this hoopla over one interview? At least Obama did an interview with an Arab network. This situation was decades in the making, and it won’t be unwound or addressed in a few months. This will take a very long time.

    Settlements Continue to Expand. Israeli Settlements Controlled More Than Half of West Bank 5 Years Ago.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7082629.stm

    New Evidence of Gaza Child Deaths

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7843307.stm

    Humanitarian Crisis in Gaza

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7845428.stm

    Map of Gaza Destruction by Israel

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7812136.stm

    Glenn Greenwald:

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/01/26/israel/index.html

    Settlement Expansion:

    http://wire.antiwar.com/2009/01/26/israels-netanyahu-existing-settlements-will-grow/

    Israeli Settlements Controlled More Than Half of West Bank in 2002

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0514-04.htm

  • Mandelay

    Four billion for Acorn in the hotly debated stimulus package?
    Only 3% of the stimulus package to be spent in 2009; the remainder to flood
    the country close to the 2010 mid-term elections?
    Fox is carrying these stories … does this mean the reach out and touch some Muslims “statesman” is still the same old Chicago crook? Don’t think it matters much how many hoops the State Department is jumping through to carry out the hopey vision. It’s still Chicago on the Potomac and the compass says to follow the money. Our money.

  • Obama: Dubya II – Electric Boogaloo

    /snark

    Get with the program!

    When it’s republicans it’s “pork”. When it’s the Democrats it’s “stimulus programs”.

    /end snark

  • Judy L. NC

    last nos.

    You have a way with words…an apt comparison.

  • Judy L. NC

    Sorry. Here’s what I meant.

    soothing the weaving cobra as it emerges from its container with a hypnotic little melody . . .

    You have a way with words…an apt comparison.

  • Docelder

    Four billion for Acorn

    It’s the Chicago way called “change”.

  • Judy L. NC

    Jaysus H.!

  • Tess

    I’m with the comments that are suspicious of the O, and grateful for the Acorn report. AND the snark. I do like “Chicago on the Potomac”.
    Sorry to be only endorsing here, but these people say it better than I can.

  • Oisafraud

    Now it’s evidently clear who is not prepared to be president of USA. Duh!!!!

    For the second time in 8 years we fucked up again!

  • http://tojo toni

    Link? Does anyone know the true amount to Acorn? I had read it was 75M.

  • Mary Kay

    What people forget is that our troubles with the Muslim world didn’t start with Bush or even Bush 41. Does anyone remember the Arab Oil Imbargo? Anyone remember those gas lines around the corner? Carter and Brzezinski thought it would be a good thing to overthrow the Shah of Iran and to fund the war in Afghanistan (and arm what became the Taliban). Then Carter turned around let the Shah into the country to have an operation and the Arab world went nuts.

    People lose sight of the past.

  • Mel’s Bar

    Susan made a reference to Dean Rusk, in an essay, yesterday.

    Researching, I found it interesting Rusk thought the USS Liberty incident deliberate, on Israel’s part.

    lol

  • swagga

    Bush gave more money to accorn so what is your point republicans? Obama is not to be able to make everybody happy, thats life. He’s been office for 2 weeks and look at everybody complain. he got blamed for the gaza fight and was not even in office yet when it started and when it ended. All that tells me is that people complain just to complain.

  • Pennsylvania Red

    Congressman Issa was on the radio yesterday, I don’t recall the exact ACORN numbers he referenced, but there’s another huge issue besides the ACORN allocation:

    Section 1105 of the bill stipulates that funding that isn’t spent after two years can be “re-obligated” for other activities without Congressional approval, oversight or promise of public benefit.

    “Using the guise of an economic crisis as a front to expand existing government programs and create a bureaucratic slush fund is disturbing and completely unacceptable given the severity of our current economic crisis,” Rep. Issa said. “The argument that this bill is urgently needed to reinvigorate our economy has no credibility when you consider that 93 percent of the bill’s discretionary spending will be spent in years to come. It amounts to nothing more than a blank check for bureaucrats.”

  • Kelly

    Good article. I think it was a bad idea to give the first interview to an Arab media outlet.

    swagga – If you want to use the “in office for 2 weeks” excuse than what excuse does Obama have for rushing to push a $825 BILLION so called stimulus package down our throats that SO many are SO uncertain of, when only 3% of it would be used in the near term and thus do next to nothing to stimulate the current ecnonomy? People complain because complaints are heard. Oh, but it’s soooo important to re-sod the white house lawn for millions of dollars, I forgot, it’s all about image.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    Despite the posturing from Poseurident Obama, it would appear that the popularity elevator in in descent.

    Last week: 88% favored Obama in on the street poll during the inauguration.

    This week: 63.7% favored as represented on Real Clear Politics.

    My, my, perhaps America opens one eye.

  • allimom99

    I would LOVE to hear someone in the administration discuss this very point. Tell me again what we said we were going to stand for now?

  • allimom99

    Of course, Issa’s not exactly a disinterested party, either.

  • Pennsylvania Red

    Does it matter if the Congressman is Republican or Democrat? I can’t imagine that some Blue Dog Democrats are pleased with our taxpayer dollars being used to support a bureaucratic slush fund. Or Independents, Libertarians, Greens, what have you for that matter.

    We’re all American citizens, regardless of party. The appropriate disbursement of our taxpayer dollars is not a partisan issue.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    this paragraph from Morrissey was right on:

    “Again, the naiveté comes through clearly in this exchange. The terrorist organizations themselves have a wide base of support among Muslims in the Arab world, as well as with the Iranian government, if we include Hamas and Hezbollah. Obama makes al-Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbollah sound like the Baader-Meinhofs or the tax-resister militias here in the US. They’re not. They’re well-funded and strongly supported, at least until that support starts costing people more than they’d like. Terrorism doesn’t begin and end with AQ at all, and if Obama doesn’t understand that, then he’s extremely ill-prepared for his task in the next four years of stopping terrorists, a task at which Bush succeeded after 9/11.”

    i think that a lot of people don’t understand the truth of this statement, but it is key to developing an effective strategy. it also makes the task a lot harder because these groups and ideologies are so widely supported.

  • mountainaires

    Oh, for G*d’s Sake. Is there no end to this outrage? What moral person could condone this?

    Apart from white phosphorus, the Israeli army used a variety of other weapons in densely populated civilian areas of Gaza in the three-week conflict that began on 27 December.

    Flechettes are 4cm long metal darts that are sharply pointed at the front, with four fins at the rear. Between 5,000 and 8,000 are packed into 120mm shells which are generally fired from tanks. The shells explode in the air and scatter the flechettes in a conical pattern over an area about 300m wide and 100m long.

    An anti-personnel weapon designed to penetrate dense vegetation, flechettes should never be used in built-up civilian areas. The Israeli army has used them in Gaza periodically for several years. In most cases their use has resulted in civilians being killed or injured.

    Amnesty International’s fact-finding team in Gaza first heard about the use of flechettes in the most recent conflict some ten days ago. The father of one of the victims showed the team a flechette which had been taken out of his son’s body.

    In its latest post on Amnesty International’s Livewire blog, the team described how on Monday it visited towns and villages around Gaza and found more hard evidence of the use of flechettes.

    In ‘Izbat Beit Hanoun, to the south-west of the town of Beit Hanoun, several flechette shells were fired into the main road, killing two people and injuring several others on the morning of 5 January.

    Wafa’ Nabil Abu Jarad, a 21-year-old pregnant mother of two, was one of those killed. Her husband and her mother-in-law told the team that the family had just had breakfast and were outside the house drinking tea in the sun.

    Wafa’ and her husband were standing by the corner of the house when they heard a noise, followed by screams. They turned to go back into their house but at that moment Wafa’ and several other members of the family were hit by flechettes. Wafa’ was killed outright.

    That same day, at the other end of the street, 16-year-old Islam Jaber Abd-al-Dayem was struck in the neck by a flechette. He was taken to the hospital’s intensive care unit but died three days later. Mizar, his brother, was injured in the same attack and still has a flechette lodged in his back.

    In the village of al-Mughraqa on the morning of 7 January, a shell struck the room where Atta Hassan Aref Azzam was sitting with two of his children, Mohammed, aged 13 and Hassan, aged two and a half. All three were killed. The six other members of the family who were in the house fled to the nearest school for shelter. The team examined the bloodstained wall by which the three were killed. It was full of flechettes.

    Source

    http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israeli-army-used-flechettes-against-gaza-civilians-20090127

  • http://geocities.com/palestiniansarelies Maria G

    The answer to Obama spinning words (hinting a possiblity to interpret it by the Muslim world, as if peace and pro Israel are contradictory), we’ve got “news” for you, you can be pro democracy, pro freedom, pro Israel (anti Jihad) and wanting to achieve peace.

    How about some true words, like: ‘Pro Palestinian’ means more Jihadism, oppression and dictatorship in the name of Islam, terrorism masked as “freedom fighting”, war using kids in the theater of war under the banner of “freeing land”?

    Next time Mr. Obama, be clear in what you say don’t intentionally mislead and create room for different “versions”.

  • http://geocities.com/palestiniansarelies Maria G

    To mountainaires, Still blaming the wrong party for Palestinians murder of its own children via tactics of human shields?
    Even the EU laid the entire blame on Palestine Hamas.

    Operation ‘Cast Lead’ and the four Islamic crimes: 1 – Terror on Israeli civilians, 2 – hijacking its own women and children as human shields to cause them to die, 3 – Inflaming its youths via showing most graphic photos of injured/dead kids on Arab TV, 4 – calls for genocide on Israelis or on all Jews
    More…

    EU Blames Hamas For Gaza Crisis- Traducir
    … added that the EU will not engage in talks with the Hamas until it renounces … He also said that Hamas was not a legitimate resistance movement as it uses …

    http//www.skynews.com.au/politics/article.aspx%3fid=298023

  • Tess

    Mo oown caveat for this mess is that Palestine has spent more than 60 years trying to obliterate Israel. Had they spent time building statehood instead of eradicating Israel, this would be a different discussion.

  • lark

    Correct. Suppose that as marketing managers they considered their market made of up to 1 billion Muslims and many filthy rich. They could have made billions and buy up 1/2 of Israel for twice its value and still be making offerings Israelis couldn’t believe.

  • fif

    Especially since, as Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey notes, Obama has a “charming and dangerous naivete.”

    Now it’s “charming” for the President to be naive.

    Oy vey.

  • fif

    Very disingenuous. Obama has a long and well-documented history with ACORN. That makes it much more suspicious–especially in light of his plan to fortify “Organization for America,” his grassroots network, which will plant two full-time paid employees in EVERY Congressional district in the country to push through his legislation (by targeting local and state officials and pressuring them), and to raise money and begin his 2012 campaign. Who else is naive?

  • fif

    Since they are being investigated in numerous states for corrupt practices, WHY are they in there at all?!

  • barb

    I agree with you that Obama pulled some kind of power trip on Osama Bin Laden. Going to his turf and trying to lure in Osama Bin Laden’s supporters. Like a tomcat spraying on another cat’s turf. The most dynamic part of the Obama/Osama struggle is this masculine need for control by both parties. These are the two new antagonists of the world power game. The future will not look well for at least one of these two cocks of the walk. Which one I don’t know. As an American I just hope it will not effect me personally. We are living in a very interesting time and I hope we will all live to tell about it.

  • Andy

    I view Ed Morrissey’s essay at Hot Air as right on. He points out some key facts some find more convenient to ignore….

  • I Agree

    I TOTALLY AGREE……THANK YOU.

  • I Agree

    THANK YOU….

  • House Name

    Did you mean “re-sod” grass at the “Black House”?

  • pjs, stillwater mn

    What makes you think Obama’s brand of diplomacy with “”just words” without action”?

  • LonnieH

    obamastolemyboyfriend you are so right. I am getting sick and tired of us not being able to use the “M” word with Hussein, but he uses it HIMSELF when it fits his hidden agenda. He used the black thing to get votes, now he’s using his “international man of mystery” BS to put us in a horrible place with terrorist who want to blow us off the planet. This is the most ridiculous nonsense. Obama. ROFLMAO. President my ass.

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