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	<title>Comments on: Obama and Kennedy: Gut vs. Experience</title>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1252/clemons-on-obama-and-kennedy-gut-vs-experience/#comment-1101077</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He  did  the  same thing  here in  Texas;  thus,  he &quot;won&quot;  the  caucuses,  but   Hillary  won  the   primary.  

Not  to mention  that  here in  Harris  County (around  Houston),  Acorn  had  registered  4,000  dead people   to  vote,  and  surprisingly,   those  votes  were  actually   CAST  in  the caucuses.  

Hellooooooooo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He  did  the  same thing  here in  Texas;  thus,  he &#8220;won&#8221;  the  caucuses,  but   Hillary  won  the   primary.  </p>
<p>Not  to mention  that  here in  Harris  County (around  Houston),  Acorn  had  registered  4,000  dead people   to  vote,  and  surprisingly,   those  votes  were  actually   CAST  in  the caucuses.  </p>
<p>Hellooooooooo</p>
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		<title>By: bert</title>
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		<dc:creator>bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Iowa is a very white state, so an Obama win there is a real positive.&lt;/strong&gt;

Obama did not win Iowa. He sent in bus loads of blacks, probably ACORN volunteers, to take over the caucuses. He cheated to get more votes. That is not the same as winning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Iowa is a very white state, so an Obama win there is a real positive.</strong></p>
<p>Obama did not win Iowa. He sent in bus loads of blacks, probably ACORN volunteers, to take over the caucuses. He cheated to get more votes. That is not the same as winning.</p>
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		<title>By: Intelligence &#38; Humility: JFK on Tape &#171; Bud White&#8217;s World</title>
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		<dc:creator>Intelligence &#38; Humility: JFK on Tape &#171; Bud White&#8217;s World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 04:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama and Kennedy: Gut vs. Experience by SusanUnPC &lt;a href=&#8221; Kennedy Choosing Johnson v Obama Choosing Biden by Bud White [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1252/clemons-on-obama-and-kennedy-gut-vs-experience/#comment-97746</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can fly but I can&#039;t type.&lt;em&gt;Democrats will have&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can fly but I can&#8217;t type.<em>Democrats will have</em></p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1252/clemons-on-obama-and-kennedy-gut-vs-experience/#comment-97744</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am concerned about the general turn out. Turn out for Democrats while have to be overwhelming to overcome the events of the last four election cycles. What is wierd is the DNC is not talking very much about election fraud and raising awareness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am concerned about the general turn out. Turn out for Democrats while have to be overwhelming to overcome the events of the last four election cycles. What is wierd is the DNC is not talking very much about election fraud and raising awareness.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1252/clemons-on-obama-and-kennedy-gut-vs-experience/#comment-97728</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never really understood what would make someone that was publicly, totally humilated stick around...I would have cut the string and moved on. That &lt;em&gt;had&lt;/em&gt; to hurt. One aspect of it though says to me..&quot;ok Hillary has one tough hide, even if you think it was &quot;golddigging&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never really understood what would make someone that was publicly, totally humilated stick around&#8230;I would have cut the string and moved on. That <em>had</em> to hurt. One aspect of it though says to me..&#8221;ok Hillary has one tough hide, even if you think it was &#8220;golddigging&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1252/clemons-on-obama-and-kennedy-gut-vs-experience/#comment-97727</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other totals indicate 115g gop and 236g dems.

On past projection numbers it would indicate more people will vote than there are state citizens.

It would mean you would have to throw out the playbook and campaign in different style.

Low information first time voters, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other totals indicate 115g gop and 236g dems.</p>
<p>On past projection numbers it would indicate more people will vote than there are state citizens.</p>
<p>It would mean you would have to throw out the playbook and campaign in different style.</p>
<p>Low information first time voters, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Centrocitta</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1252/clemons-on-obama-and-kennedy-gut-vs-experience/#comment-97719</link>
		<dc:creator>Centrocitta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....Why did your girl, Shillary, stay in that marriage?....

As it pertains to Hillary, I think we can safely call her behavior &quot;gold digging&quot;, particuarly since even though she made it to Yale, she has core Bible Belt values.  As we all know, divorces are easy to come by in the Bible Belt, with Texas, Oklahoma and Arkansas having the highest rates in the country.  

If Hillary had happened to be raised in the Northeast with Catholic values, we could then attribute her devotion to a philanderer as &quot;respect for the sanctity of marriage&quot;.  But since sanctity of marriage is not taught in the Bible Belt, Hillary can only be a gold digger. 

And to digress a little.  If anyone out there thinks the high divorce rate in the USA is a problem for American society, elect an evangelical minister named Huckabee and watch the divorce rate soar even higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.Why did your girl, Shillary, stay in that marriage?&#8230;.</p>
<p>As it pertains to Hillary, I think we can safely call her behavior &#8220;gold digging&#8221;, particuarly since even though she made it to Yale, she has core Bible Belt values.  As we all know, divorces are easy to come by in the Bible Belt, with Texas, Oklahoma and Arkansas having the highest rates in the country.  </p>
<p>If Hillary had happened to be raised in the Northeast with Catholic values, we could then attribute her devotion to a philanderer as &#8220;respect for the sanctity of marriage&#8221;.  But since sanctity of marriage is not taught in the Bible Belt, Hillary can only be a gold digger. </p>
<p>And to digress a little.  If anyone out there thinks the high divorce rate in the USA is a problem for American society, elect an evangelical minister named Huckabee and watch the divorce rate soar even higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1252/clemons-on-obama-and-kennedy-gut-vs-experience/#comment-97695</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;153,000 for Democrats &amp; ~76,000 for Republicans&lt;/em&gt;

Republicans always cross caucus. The GOP has closed door meetings and counts votes later, caucus is all just bluster for them.

Low GOP turnout indicates a lot of ratfucking is going on.

Kerry won Iowa and had higher Dem vs. Rep. turnout and he lost the general by over ten thousand votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>153,000 for Democrats &amp; ~76,000 for Republicans</em></p>
<p>Republicans always cross caucus. The GOP has closed door meetings and counts votes later, caucus is all just bluster for them.</p>
<p>Low GOP turnout indicates a lot of ratfucking is going on.</p>
<p>Kerry won Iowa and had higher Dem vs. Rep. turnout and he lost the general by over ten thousand votes.</p>
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		<title>By: Centrocitta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Centrocitta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 13:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t have to worry about Huckabee.  Even if he wins the nomination, people of color in America will be reminded that Huckabee&#039;s Christmas &quot;cross&quot; really looks like a KKK attack on their front lawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t have to worry about Huckabee.  Even if he wins the nomination, people of color in America will be reminded that Huckabee&#8217;s Christmas &#8220;cross&#8221; really looks like a KKK attack on their front lawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Centrocitta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Centrocitta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 13:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudy Giuliani is beastly ugly.  Nearly every Italian and Italian-American I know doesn&#039;t believe that Giuliani has once ounce of Italian blood.  Not by his unattractive face and not by his unattractive lifestyle.  Surely the man was adopted at birth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudy Giuliani is beastly ugly.  Nearly every Italian and Italian-American I know doesn&#8217;t believe that Giuliani has once ounce of Italian blood.  Not by his unattractive face and not by his unattractive lifestyle.  Surely the man was adopted at birth.</p>
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		<title>By: SirScud</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1252/clemons-on-obama-and-kennedy-gut-vs-experience/#comment-97521</link>
		<dc:creator>SirScud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>INCOMING&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
Hey Folks....Happy New Year to all!!!

This is the first time I have checked the pulse of &quot;No Quarter&quot; in several weeks, and I must say that the neoliberal/closet-conservative rhetoric seems to be trying to fashion a few new attempts at disguised progressive discourse. By what definition have Bill or Hillary Clinton ever been anything but bonafide conservatives within the Democrat party establishment? Redefining themselves as DLC style moderates, feeling the pain of the poor and disenfranchised masses, is only good theatre on the political stage of the willingly uninformed; it has little to do with where fact and reason meet reality. Let&#039;s face it boys and girls, conservative thought (which I believe to be the ultimate oxymoron) is antithetical to progressive reasoning. These people are philosophically afraid of unabridged enlightenment and the challenge it presents to the status quo, as viewed through their linear and narrow view of life.
As thinking Progressives how can we not support John Edwards&#039; desire to end our nations march towards hegemonic fascism through the corruption of our government, and most of its institutions, by corporate interests and their sycophants, or how can we honestly or intellectually allow ourselves to accept politically motivated comparisons between Barack Obama&#039;s intentions and those of the likes of Bill Chrystal and his neoconservative cabal of political charlatans? Does it really matter why such stupid lies and dissembling are employed as &quot;normal political speech?&quot; Is there really any doubt, any doubt at all, who the narrow few are that benefit by such slander and deceit? Is John Edwards wrong on the issues surrounding the corruption of our government and our election process? Is Barack Obama somehow infringing on Bill Clinton&#039;s exclusive right to identify with the dreams and ideals of JFK on the political stage? What a silly and trite idea! 
Most of you decry the pitiful and downright shameful condition of our nations press and the corruption of the regulation of our public&#039;s access to reliable professional journalism and information. Well my friends, simply harken back to Billy Bob Clinton&#039;s collusion with the Republican Congress, and the resulting deregulation efforts that have resulted in our present MSM consolidation. 
Can anyone appreciate the unmitigated hypocrisy of a leader who advocates for the unfettered education of all children on one hand, while completely abrogating the open access to all information on the other? How can anyone claim an informed public as an ideal, while surreptitiously working to undermine public access to information through political trickery and official censorship?
Remember, this election is about getting rid of the enemies from within our own government, not the foreign variety; once we have our own house in order, the rest will come in due course.
Here is my own take on the Iowa caucus.
230,000 voted - ~153,000 for Democrats &amp; ~76,000 for Republicans
Obama      -   58,140
Edwards    -   45,900
Clinton    -   44,370
Huckabee   -   26,600
It would appear that the leading Democrat doubled the votes of the leading Republican, but the conservatives (Clinton and Huckabee ET AL) beat the Progressives 120,370 to 108,630. Obama beat Clinton by 13,770 votes; which is a greater margin than the combined Conservatives beat the Progressives.
We still have work to do, but things are definitely looking better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>INCOMING&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
Hey Folks&#8230;.Happy New Year to all!!!</p>
<p>This is the first time I have checked the pulse of &#8220;No Quarter&#8221; in several weeks, and I must say that the neoliberal/closet-conservative rhetoric seems to be trying to fashion a few new attempts at disguised progressive discourse. By what definition have Bill or Hillary Clinton ever been anything but bonafide conservatives within the Democrat party establishment? Redefining themselves as DLC style moderates, feeling the pain of the poor and disenfranchised masses, is only good theatre on the political stage of the willingly uninformed; it has little to do with where fact and reason meet reality. Let&#8217;s face it boys and girls, conservative thought (which I believe to be the ultimate oxymoron) is antithetical to progressive reasoning. These people are philosophically afraid of unabridged enlightenment and the challenge it presents to the status quo, as viewed through their linear and narrow view of life.<br />
As thinking Progressives how can we not support John Edwards&#8217; desire to end our nations march towards hegemonic fascism through the corruption of our government, and most of its institutions, by corporate interests and their sycophants, or how can we honestly or intellectually allow ourselves to accept politically motivated comparisons between Barack Obama&#8217;s intentions and those of the likes of Bill Chrystal and his neoconservative cabal of political charlatans? Does it really matter why such stupid lies and dissembling are employed as &#8220;normal political speech?&#8221; Is there really any doubt, any doubt at all, who the narrow few are that benefit by such slander and deceit? Is John Edwards wrong on the issues surrounding the corruption of our government and our election process? Is Barack Obama somehow infringing on Bill Clinton&#8217;s exclusive right to identify with the dreams and ideals of JFK on the political stage? What a silly and trite idea!<br />
Most of you decry the pitiful and downright shameful condition of our nations press and the corruption of the regulation of our public&#8217;s access to reliable professional journalism and information. Well my friends, simply harken back to Billy Bob Clinton&#8217;s collusion with the Republican Congress, and the resulting deregulation efforts that have resulted in our present MSM consolidation.<br />
Can anyone appreciate the unmitigated hypocrisy of a leader who advocates for the unfettered education of all children on one hand, while completely abrogating the open access to all information on the other? How can anyone claim an informed public as an ideal, while surreptitiously working to undermine public access to information through political trickery and official censorship?<br />
Remember, this election is about getting rid of the enemies from within our own government, not the foreign variety; once we have our own house in order, the rest will come in due course.<br />
Here is my own take on the Iowa caucus.<br />
230,000 voted &#8211; ~153,000 for Democrats &amp; ~76,000 for Republicans<br />
Obama      &#8211;   58,140<br />
Edwards    &#8211;   45,900<br />
Clinton    &#8211;   44,370<br />
Huckabee   &#8211;   26,600<br />
It would appear that the leading Democrat doubled the votes of the leading Republican, but the conservatives (Clinton and Huckabee ET AL) beat the Progressives 120,370 to 108,630. Obama beat Clinton by 13,770 votes; which is a greater margin than the combined Conservatives beat the Progressives.<br />
We still have work to do, but things are definitely looking better!</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
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		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iowa is a very white state, so an Obama win there is a real positive. It shows as a country we&#039;re moving beyond some old stereotypes. I don&#039;t know if Obama writes his own speeches, or if he uses writers, I thought his acceptance speech was top notch. On the other side I was disappointed in Ron Paul&#039;s numbers: I know Paul can&#039;t win but am of the opinion he brings some serious issues to the debates, especially the deficit &amp; so far noone seems to be really addressing that. So for tonight: Congratulations to Sen. Obama, it was hard fought &amp; well won. New Hampshire will get rid of Huckabee &amp; we can start to get a look at what&#039;s really going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iowa is a very white state, so an Obama win there is a real positive. It shows as a country we&#8217;re moving beyond some old stereotypes. I don&#8217;t know if Obama writes his own speeches, or if he uses writers, I thought his acceptance speech was top notch. On the other side I was disappointed in Ron Paul&#8217;s numbers: I know Paul can&#8217;t win but am of the opinion he brings some serious issues to the debates, especially the deficit &amp; so far noone seems to be really addressing that. So for tonight: Congratulations to Sen. Obama, it was hard fought &amp; well won. New Hampshire will get rid of Huckabee &amp; we can start to get a look at what&#8217;s really going on.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya real family values eh? What you think? You can&#039;t. Have you ever been experienced? The Sun rises from the bottom of the sea out at Montauk Point\

That is a real good question. Why would a women disgraced stay? Not so many would...what &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; that say about her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya real family values eh? What you think? You can&#8217;t. Have you ever been experienced? The Sun rises from the bottom of the sea out at Montauk Point\</p>
<p>That is a real good question. Why would a women disgraced stay? Not so many would&#8230;what <strong><em>does</em></strong> that say about her?</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 04:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The smell of his decisions were blowing up the Hudson for months after 9/11. He was briefed after the the 1st WTC bombing &#039;cause they told him it was still a target and he did NOT listen. He was also a prosecutor with connections to the Mob he so agressively went after. So to say he did not know about what the soutern district was doing in the 1990&#039;s is a bogus argument. Sure he did not everything back then, but he knew enough. And guess what Canis Lupis? He was more interested in his cousins&#039; booty AND stuffing his pockets with garbage contracts than where you were to going to scavenge for your next meal. Happy freakin new year to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The smell of his decisions were blowing up the Hudson for months after 9/11. He was briefed after the the 1st WTC bombing &#8217;cause they told him it was still a target and he did NOT listen. He was also a prosecutor with connections to the Mob he so agressively went after. So to say he did not know about what the soutern district was doing in the 1990&#8242;s is a bogus argument. Sure he did not everything back then, but he knew enough. And guess what Canis Lupis? He was more interested in his cousins&#8217; booty AND stuffing his pockets with garbage contracts than where you were to going to scavenge for your next meal. Happy freakin new year to you.</p>
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