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Check Out Sibel Edmonds

By Larry Johnson on January 6, 2008 at 12:33 PM in Current Affairs

Former FBI translator and muzzled whistleblower, Sibel Edmonds, is getting her story out, finally. The Times of London does a tantalizing front page piece detailing her testimony that Turkey and Israeli intelligence officers used money and politicians to get access to U.S. nuclear secrets that ultimately found their way to Pakistan. The story is more complicated, but that is the gist.

Sibel has said that several the American officials and politicians named in those recordings. Other bloggers have fingered several folks for allegedly being involved in this affair. These include former speaker of the house, Denny Hastert and former State Department official, Marc Grossman. I have heard second hand that both men strongly deny having any role in these matters. The role that foreign money and intelligence officers have played in U.S. politics is not a Sibel Edmonds fantasy. The woman is simply trying to tell folks what she heard. This matter needs to be investigated. I do not believe that Sibel is making up what she heard.

  • Sometime-CIA-Defender

    Turkey raises it’s bewattled head again in relation to WMDs. Would love to know if there was a connection between Necons, Turkey and the Plame Affair as was once suggested by some bloggers a year or more ago. Two birds with one stone (in this case, silencing Wilson AND halting investigations into their own misdeeds with regard to giving secrets to Turkey) often seems to be what motivates political action.

    • Kathleen

      there were articles in the blogosphere several years ago about Plame meeting or being aware of Perle and Feith’s activities in Turkey.

      Will we ever witness Phase II of the Senate Select Committee on INtelligence Completed. Hell Feith is being employed at Georgetown. Wonder how this will reflect on that school when hs is hopefully thrown in jail for playing a huge part in lying our nation into an unnecessary war and undermining US National Security.

  • Cee

    Ya think that Olbermann will finally report on Sibel this time??

    We might be distracted from this story

    American Al Qaeda leader Adam Gadahn told his followers to welcome Bush “with bombs and traps” upon his upcoming visit to the Middle East this week.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4093635&page=1

    Another useful fanatic to the rescue?

    A man who starred in a video released by al-Qaida’s deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri on Saturday, inviting Americans to convert to Islam, has been identified as Adam Yehiye Gadahn, an American with Jewish ancestry.
    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525995106&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

    • Donovan Fraser

      Adam Yehiye Gadahn, the America al-Qaida is such a plant he doesn’t even deserve to be printed in our conscience at all. A real life blow hard. Ask the question how does he even get face time on TV? here’s how….SITE Intelligence Group or MEMRI -watchdog groups that seems to get these video releases of Ossama or the American Al Qaida BEFORE all the major intelligence communities of the world. This must beg your mind to wonder how they (above all others) get these stories just in the nick of time (every time) before elections… I would contend that they are in on it ( terrorizing)from the get go.
      BUT WHY??????

      the answer:These groups have an agenda and that is having the USA blow every Arab country into oblivion and to perpetuate this “War on terror” myth that is constantly beaten into our minds.
      I believe that the” war on terror” is the greatest hoax ever perpetuated on the American people. Now I am not saying terrorist don’t exist ( that would be foolish) but WE are making them bigger and more lethal that they are in real life.

      ask yourself this….If al-Qaida’ were in fact under every rock and in every town, then why haven’t they just bought guns on the black market and on the same day, at the same time, just walked into malls and stores and churches and just mowed people down in cold blood? Or maybe rented a car and driven into a crowd ? there are thousands of other ways to kill that are easily done ( if you are willing to die doing it) yet nothing…Theses “So-called” watch dog groups would have you belive that al-Qaida is buying their time for the big boom ( NUCLEAR) but that makes no sense at all. terrorism is the act of frightening a population into a paralysis of thought and any of the above easily done methods wold do the trick.

      in short…….Bullshit, all of it.

      it’s 2008 now and how many people in this war on terror have been actually convicted of the crime of terrorism and how many have been falsely arrested only to be quietly released with no charges?

      not a very convincing argument for this world wide conspiracy of Islamo-fascism is it?

      • Cee

        Donovan,

        You’ll enjoy this

        The strange pattern keeps repeating itself: The terrorists have ties to factions within the American security apparat.

        The Times has not published all of Sibel Edmonds’ story. She fingers one well-known State Department official as a recipient of Turkish bribes. The accused individual strongly denies the claim, and the Times will not publish his name. (Libel laws are more stringent in the U.K.)
        However, Edmonds said: “He was aiding foreign operatives against US interests by passing them highly classified information, not only from the State Department but also from the Pentagon, in exchange for money, position and political objectives.”

        She claims that the FBI was also gathering evidence against senior Pentagon officials – including household names – who were aiding foreign agents.
        Who can the mystery man be? I’m thinking either Armitage — who is second-in-command at State — or Marc Grossman, who was United States Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs from 2001. Grossman also played a still-nebulous role in Plame-gate. Not only that: He met with General Ahmed on or around September 11, 2001!

        http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/

        • Centrocitta

          Yes, thanks, Cee, I did enjoy this. You see, it seems an Albanian man (from Kosovo) showed up as a witness at my divorce hearing in Austin, Texas. He actually threatened me, a natural born American citizen, inside the Travis County Courthouse. Also making an appearance that day, as a witness for the other side, was a very unattractrive Turkish woman who even brought her equally unattractive mother along. Previously, this woman had told me, “Your husband is from MY part of the world — not yours”.

        • Centrocitta

          Quoting the Cannonfire article, “According to 911 whistleblower and former FBI translator, Sibil Edmonds, state-sponsored Turkish networks make up the “main players” in Afghanistan’s illicit opium trade.

          Such groups, according to Edmonds, purchase the opium from Afghanistan and transport it through several Turkic speaking Central Asian states into Turkey, where all the raw opium is processed into popular by-products. Then the network transports the final product into Western European and American markets via their partner networks in Albania.

          Violetta Rajkovic wouldn’t happen to be an Albanian name, would it?

      • Centrocitta

        …..Or maybe rented a car and driven into a crowd ? in short, Bullshit, all of it…..

        Yes, indeed, is is definitely Bullshit. Why didn’t they drive that car into the more than one million people that descended upon Rome at the death of John Paul, II? Convenient location for them too — they wouldn’t even have needed to cross an ocean.

    • Centrocitta

      …..A man who starred in a video released by al-Qaida’s deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri on Saturday, inviting Americans to convert to Islam, has been identified as Adam Yehiye Gadahn, an American with Jewish ancestry……

      With the dollar steadily declining, it makes perfect sense to use a home-grown variety of “terrorist” as the imported versions from places like Jordan and Saudi Arabia are now too expensive.

  • Brenda Stewart

    Do not know the answers to everything but I am convinced that we have some very bad actors in our government. We really do need to get smart and get them behind bars. I am inclined to believe ms. Edmond’s accusations. I do not trust our very own government to take this down and get to the bottom of it….really, do they ever do such a thing??!!

    I have been reading about all of this for some time and would love to get some answers myself at to hasert’s part in all of this. He is not beyond doing such a thing. He is rotten to the core, and will always be that way and he needs to behind bars for the rest of his life, as well as others. So, the question is do the real players that do have a difference to make in our government, do they ahve the guts to do the real thing of getting rid of all this nasty crap in our government? I feel maybe, just maybe, the feces is getting ready to hit the fan…

    Thank, Mr. Johnson, for getting this out in the open. I appreciate this as well as other will as soon as we all know the truth.

  • kenoshaMarge

    It’s hard to believe that this woman, who has shown remarkable courage, has had to go to another country in order to tell her story. When did our own journalists and investigative reporters stop reporting and investigating? Oh, sorry, I forgot, that would be when our government starting allowing a bunch of corporations to decide what we know and when we know it. And a good Britney story is far more important than what Sybel Edmonds has to say. Right?

  • Sandy

    Wow, I’ve been following her story for years. Thanks for the heads up on this, Larry.

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    • Kathleen

      Thanks had not been to the Bradblog in a while. thanks for reminding me.

      If and when Phase II of the SSCI is ever completed, if the Aipac case actually takes place..if congress follows through on numerous investigations and contempt of court charges…maybe just maybe we will taste a bit of justice.

      Does not look like there will be much justice for the lives that have been destroyed by all of these fucking lies and unnecessary war.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Larry: It maybe that that the CIA tapes are not the only one have been destroyed. This is one can of worms that HAS to opened. It is apparent that immunity is only offered to criminals in this administration and else where. Where is the WhistleBlower protections for her? Just scartching the surface it mkes the MD88 to China look like chump change.

    • Centrocitta

      Hopefully, we will get to hear all of Sibil’s story soon.

  • Mr.Murder

    Just got this in IM form from a firend online.

    It’s the motherlode of smoking guns.

    Condi can’t wait for the smoking gun to become a Hastert resignation. Who could have ever imagined?

    In summer 2000, Edmonds says the FBI monitored one of the agents as he met two Saudi Arabian businessmen in Detroit to sell nuclear information that had been stolen from an air force base in Alabama. She overheard the agent saying: “We have a package and we’re going to sell it for $250,000.”

    That facility has as much trouble holding onto nuke secrets as it does air guard records, eh, George?

    • TeakWoodKite

      Also makes me wonder if this has anything do do with the former Gov. of Alabama being jailed.

  • Mr.Murder

    Say, didn’t Bush have an Energy Dep’t goon run for elected office in Michigan?

  • Mr.Murder

    Alabama, Marge Tutwiler(recent NYSE vice pres and former director of communications for Iraqi provisional authority), one of her kin is a staffer for Dick Cheney…

    follow the money.

    • TeakWoodKite

      So were ther 5 or 6 out of Minot? (I must sound like a tin foil hat.) This has fallen of the radar and smells like the garlic in a bigger dish in Sibel Edmond heard coming from the kitchen.

      What a “National Security” comic strip phrase this

      “muzzled whistleblower”

      From Cee:
      Grossman also played a still-nebulous role in Plame-gate. Not only that: He met with General Ahmed on or around September 11, 2001!
      There is the name again, Cee.

  • Cee

    See this as well

    Immediately after 911, the FBI arrested a bunch of people suspected of being involved with the attacks – including four associates of key targets of FBI’s counterintelligence operations. Sibel heard the targets tell Marc Grossman: “We need to get them out of the US because we can’t afford for them to spill the beans.” Grossman duly facilitated their release from jail and the suspects immediately left the country without further investigation or interrogation.

    Let me repeat that for emphasis: The #3 guy at the State Dept facilitated the immediate release of 911 suspects at the request of targets of the FBI’s investigation.
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/6/112413/4231/854/431373

    Any chance that Clinton, Obama or Edwards will raise this?

    • Kathleen

      Edwards is the only one who has come close and the MSM is ignoring that he has said “there will be no lobbyist in my administration, there will be no people who have lobbied for other nations in my administration”. That is the closest we are going to get and this is huge….huge. If only people would listen to what Edwards is saying.

  • TeakWoodKite

    The Office of Special Plans had many arms.

    • Kathleen

      Nuclear, biological and chemical arms.

      The Arms race is well and growing.

      Phase Ii of the SSCI…we want it completed.

  • dqueue

    Luke Ryland provides an important update to this developing intrigue.

  • Mr.Murder

    Lantos is retiring though, perhaps to put food on his family.

    Some would say AIPAC’s influence is a cancer in and of itself…

  • Cee

    His photo is here on her website. Who are the others?

    http://www.justacitizen.com/images/Gallery%20Draft2%20for%20Web.htm

    • TeakWoodKite

      Pictures at an Exhibition; akin to the people she could identify and not implicate in violation of a gag order. That’s what I would do.

    • teknikAl

      Richard Perle
      Doug Feith
      Eric Edelman
      Marc Grossman
      Larry Franklin
      Dennis Hastert
      Roy Blunt
      Dan Burton
      Tom Lantos
      Bob Livingston
      Stephen Solarz
      Graham Fuller
      David Makovsky
      Alan Markovsky
      Enver Yusuf
      Sabri Sayari

  • Mr.Murder

    Most of those pics can be persons found at the State Dep’t or GOP Congressional offices.

  • Mr.Murder

    Perle had his security clearance stricken as well.

    • Kathleen

      Feith, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, Perle and others have had their security clearances come under scrutiny and any charges dropped.

      If you missed this article by Jason Vest some years back about
      THE MEN FROM JINSA. this is a must read

      http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest

  • Mr.Murder

    Lovely Larisa blogged at past times about Hastert.

    http://www.atlargely.com/2007/11/corruption-roun.html

  • Mr.Murder

    She also names the photos listed:

    Sibel Speaks Part II: Naming Names…
    I have decided that after years of not getting anyone to publish what I have found out about the Edmonds case, I am simply going to give you folks some names. I won’t explain what the allegations are, or how these people might fit together or even if they fit together. I also don’t claim to have all the names or know the full story by any means. But I am certain, that brilliant bloggers, researchers, and journalists will finally figure it out:

    Richard Perle
    Doug Feith
    Eric Edelman
    Marc Grossman
    Larry Franklin
    Dennis Hastert
    Roy Blunt
    Dan Burton
    Tom Lantos
    Bob Livingston
    Stephen Solarz
    Graham Fuller
    David Makovsky
    Alan Markovsky
    Enver Yusuf
    Sabri Sayari
    Mehmet Eymur

    http://www.atlargely.com/

    She also names companies associated with those persons…

    • Cee

      You’re quick!!

  • Cee

    The ones most wouldn’t know

    Alan Makovsky – WINEP
    David Makovsky – WINEP
    Graham E. Fuller – RAND
    Stephen Solarz (D-CA)
    Roy Blount – ( R, Mo)
    Eric Edelman
    Yusuf Turani (President-in-exile, Turkistan)

    • Mr.Murder

      Thanks, Cee.

      Condi was once the Chair of RAND?

      • Laay Matt

        Has anyone ever investigated the link between Condi and the appointment of Philip Zelikow as Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission. In this position, he edited and controlled the final edition of the Commission’s report. He worked for Condi. He co-authored a book with Condi. If there were errors or crimes uncovered in the Commission’s investigation, do you honestly think Condi or her associates would be fingered. I do not wear a tinfoil hat but this appointment was too close for someone not to review it.

        • Cee

          Only those of us on the lunatic fringe. :D

          http://www.antiwar.com/sperry/?articleid=2209

          http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=philip_zelikow

          I will never forget her press conference when she was asked about Pakistani General Mahmoud Ahmad
          She claimed not to know anything about him. When I found a transcript of it, they took his name out.

          More on this treason

          Pakistani and/or Turkish operatives arrested or held for questioning in the wake of the 9/11 attacks? Well, that’s the first I’ve heard of it. However, the U.S. authorities did round up a large number of Israelis, including these guys, and held them for several months before extraditing them back to their home country.

          Even more alarming is the reason Edmonds approached the Times with the story, “after reading about an al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.” That’s a reference to this Nov. 2 story in the Times, which details the career of a top al-Qaeda kingpin, one Louai al-Sakka, who claims to have trained several of the 9/11 hijackers at a camp situated outside Istanbul in the resort area of the Yalova mountains.

          Now that’s curious: a Muslim fundamentalist training camp in a country run by a fanatically secular military that would normally not tolerate such activities. As the Times puts it: “Turkish intelligence were aware of unusual militant Islamic activity in the Yalova mountains, where Sakka had set up his camps. But they posed no threat to Turkey at the time.”

          Not a threat to Turkey, eh? All too true: the terrorists’ target was the U.S. The al-Qaeda recruits trained by Sakka were specifically chosen by the top leadership of al-Qaeda – i.e., bin Laden – to carry out the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. That they were nurtured and steeled for their mission under the noses of our NATO allies in Ankara seems bizarre – until one begins to take Sibel Edmonds seriously. Then the whole horrifying picture starts to fall into place.

          http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12166

        • Cee

          Trying again

          http://www.antiwar.com/sperry/?articleid=2209

          http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=philip_zelikow

          Pakistani and/or Turkish operatives arrested or held for questioning in the wake of the 9/11 attacks? Well, that’s the first I’ve heard of it. However, the U.S. authorities did round up a large number of Israelis, including these guys, and held them for several months before extraditing them back to their home country.

          Even more alarming is the reason Edmonds approached the Times with the story, “after reading about an al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.” That’s a reference to this Nov. 2 story in the Times, which details the career of a top al-Qaeda kingpin, one Louai al-Sakka, who claims to have trained several of the 9/11 hijackers at a camp situated outside Istanbul in the resort area of the Yalova mountains.

          Now that’s curious: a Muslim fundamentalist training camp in a country run by a fanatically secular military that would normally not tolerate such activities. As the Times puts it: “Turkish intelligence were aware of unusual militant Islamic activity in the Yalova mountains, where Sakka had set up his camps. But they posed no threat to Turkey at the time.”

          Not a threat to Turkey, eh? All too true: the terrorists’ target was the U.S. The al-Qaeda recruits trained by Sakka were specifically chosen by the top leadership of al-Qaeda – i.e., bin Laden – to carry out the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. That they were nurtured and steeled for their mission under the noses of our NATO allies in Ankara seems bizarre – until one begins to take Sibel Edmonds seriously. Then the whole horrifying picture starts to fall into place.

          http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12166

        • Cee

          Trying to post this again

          http://www.antiwar.com/sperry/?articleid=2209

          http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=philip_zelikow

          Pakistani and/or Turkish operatives arrested or held for questioning in the wake of the 9/11 attacks? Well, that’s the first I’ve heard of it. However, the U.S. authorities did round up a large number of Israelis, including these guys, and held them for several months before extraditing them back to their home country.

          Even more alarming is the reason Edmonds approached the Times with the story, “after reading about an al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.” That’s a reference to this Nov. 2 story in the Times, which details the career of a top al-Qaeda kingpin, one Louai al-Sakka, who claims to have trained several of the 9/11 hijackers at a camp situated outside Istanbul in the resort area of the Yalova mountains.

          Now that’s curious: a Muslim fundamentalist training camp in a country run by a fanatically secular military that would normally not tolerate such activities. As the Times puts it: “Turkish intelligence were aware of unusual militant Islamic activity in the Yalova mountains, where Sakka had set up his camps. But they posed no threat to Turkey at the time.”

          Not a threat to Turkey, eh? All too true: the terrorists’ target was the U.S. The al-Qaeda recruits trained by Sakka were specifically chosen by the top leadership of al-Qaeda – i.e., bin Laden – to carry out the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. That they were nurtured and steeled for their mission under the noses of our NATO allies in Ankara seems bizarre – until one begins to take Sibel Edmonds seriously. Then the whole horrifying picture starts to fall into place.

          http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12166

          • TeakwoodKite

            Cee: You gotta love this “stuff”!!!
            One hell of a game of musical chairs.

            Edmonds has named at least one of the officials: he is Marc Grossman, a former U.S. ambassador to Turkey, assistant secretary of state for European affairs under the Clinton administration and undersecretary of state for political affairs from 2001-2005. Grossman is now vice chairman of The Cohen Group, a consulting firm founded by Bill Clinton’s defense secretary, William S. Cohen.

        • hope4usa

          The speculation was that he was appointed specifically to protect the Administration and Condi. It was written about previously, extensively. I’ll hunt down the link.

        • hope4usa
  • Cee

    Not that I know of. I could be wrong.

  • Cee

    She was

    Condoleezza Rice — former trustee 1991–1997 and current Secretary of State for the United States (as of May 2006), former intern

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAND

  • hope4usa

    It would seem that the military-industrial-AIPAC complex has truly run amuck. How in the world, when these people are so connected, do we fix this. Why the hell is Waxman not covering this?

  • Cee

    Does Waxman accept funds from those groups?

    • CK

      Waxman is reliable for certain foreign interests.

      • Cee

        Dammit. That needs to change or he needs to be voted out!! Let him know.

        http://www.house.gov/waxman/contact.htm

        In Washington, D.C.
        2204 Rayburn House Office Building
        Washington, D.C. 20515
        (202) 225-3976 (phone)
        (202) 225-4099 (fax) In Los Angeles
        8436 West Third Street, Suite 600
        Los Angeles, CA 90048
        (323) 651-1040 (phone)
        (818) 878-7400 (phone)
        (310) 652-3095 (phone)
        (323) 655-0502 (fax)

  • hope4usa

    Larry,

    That might be the most quiet post I’ve ever seen you write. Two paragraphs–on what could be the worst case of treason ever? Completed with:

    “The role that foreign money and intelligence officers have played in U.S. politics is not a Sibel Edmonds fantasy. The woman is simply trying to tell folks what she heard. This matter needs to be investigated. I do not believe that Sibel is making up what she heard.”

    Maybe you don’t have any information. Maybe you’ve seen this kind of thing repeatedly, which causes you to believe her. Which, I might add the FBI and Congressional committees that she already testified to, do as well. Thus the state secrets gag order.

    I’ve been following her story for two years. I didn’t expect it to be this bad, but there is something about how quiet you are that scares me more.

    Guess I should stop wearing my tinfoil hat.

    • Cee

      http://www.antiwar.com/sperry/?articleid=2209

      http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=philip_zelikow

      Pakistani and/or Turkish operatives arrested or held for questioning in the wake of the 9/11 attacks? Well, that’s the first I’ve heard of it. However, the U.S. authorities did round up a large number of Israelis, including these guys, and held them for several months before extraditing them back to their home country.

      Even more alarming is the reason Edmonds approached the Times with the story, “after reading about an al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.” That’s a reference to this Nov. 2 story in the Times, which details the career of a top al-Qaeda kingpin, one Louai al-Sakka, who claims to have trained several of the 9/11 hijackers at a camp situated outside Istanbul in the resort area of the Yalova mountains.

      Now that’s curious: a Muslim fundamentalist training camp in a country run by a fanatically secular military that would normally not tolerate such activities. As the Times puts it: “Turkish intelligence were aware of unusual militant Islamic activity in the Yalova mountains, where Sakka had set up his camps. But they posed no threat to Turkey at the time.”

      Not a threat to Turkey, eh? All too true: the terrorists’ target was the U.S. The al-Qaeda recruits trained by Sakka were specifically chosen by the top leadership of al-Qaeda – i.e., bin Laden – to carry out the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. That they were nurtured and steeled for their mission under the noses of our NATO allies in Ankara seems bizarre – until one begins to take Sibel Edmonds seriously. Then the whole horrifying picture starts to fall into place.

      http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12166

  • Cee

    http://www.antiwar.com/sperry/?articleid=2209

    Even more alarming is the reason Edmonds approached the Times with the story, “after reading about an al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.” That’s a reference to this Nov. 2 story in the Times, which details the career of a top al-Qaeda kingpin, one Louai al-Sakka, who claims to have trained several of the 9/11 hijackers at a camp situated outside Istanbul in the resort area of the Yalova mountains.

    Now that’s curious: a Muslim fundamentalist training camp in a country run by a fanatically secular military that would normally not tolerate such activities. As the Times puts it: “Turkish intelligence were aware of unusual militant Islamic activity in the Yalova mountains, where Sakka had set up his camps. But they posed no threat to Turkey at the time.”

    Not a threat to Turkey, eh? All too true: the terrorists’ target was the U.S. The al-Qaeda recruits trained by Sakka were specifically chosen by the top leadership of al-Qaeda – i.e., bin Laden – to carry out the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. That they were nurtured and steeled for their mission under the noses of our NATO allies in Ankara seems bizarre – until one begins to take Sibel Edmonds seriously. Then the whole horrifying picture starts to fall into place.

    http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12166

    • Centrocitta

      Yes, indeed, the picture IS starting to fall into place!

  • Cee

    Leslie,

    Thanks. Sorry for the multiples.

    I spoke to someone who wants to interview Edmonds again. Her number has been changed and she isn’t giving interviews. Wazzup wit dat?

    • Centrocitta

      I would have a question for Sibil — or perhaps someone else here can answer. The English language has two written forms — hand writing (also called penmanship) and printing (like we see here in this forum). Does Arabic also have a printed form which resembles Cyrillic letters — or would that be another language entirely, primarily Turkish? Please advise.

      • Centrocitta

        To clarify. I didn’t see such a sample on-line. I saw it written with a ball point pen on a piece of paper.

    • hope4usa

      according to Bradblog.com he contacted her yesterday. She’s been receiving hundreds of phone calls for interviews from foreign press. Go to his website and email him. He’ll know how to contact her.

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  • serge

    I have been waiting for Sibel Edmonds to resurface for a long time…it’s long been due. For her Congressional testimony to be made classified after it was reported in the press just beggars credulity.

    It also means she has a real story to tell. I hope she just goes to town on the incompetent FBI under Louie Freeh.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Doesn’t Louie Freeh have ties to Rudy? Makes sense why he ditched the 911 commission.

      8. Did you ever discuss Abdullah al-Thani’s alleged terrorist ties with your friend Louis Freeh, the former FBI director, or with the two former FBI counterterrorism agents who work for Giuliani Security?

      http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2007/11/30/giuliani_qatar/

      Giuliani’s lifelong friend Louis Freeh, the FBI head who talked to Giuliani periodically about terrorist threats during Giuliani’s mayoral years and has endorsed him for president, was so outraged that he wrote a formal letter to Qatar’s foreign minister complaining that he’d received “disturbing information” that KSM “has again escaped the surveillance of your Security Services and that he appears to be aware of FBI interest in him.”

      http://www.thelangreport.com/?p=254

  • hope4usa

    I’m voting Democrat……BUT I’m sure all of the intellectuals here already know that the Bush Clinton Era is incestuous. Ideally, we don’t need another Clinton as much as I enjoyed telling my daughters about the first woman Speaker and crave a woman President. SCREW THAT. CLEAN HOUSE FIRST, she’s tainted goods. I love Bill, love Hillary BUT our governmental structure has termites, we need to tear down, disinfect, and rebuild. That is not something they should be involved with.

  • Mr.Murder

    Of the thirteen persons Sibel Edmonds has whistleblown over, only one of those whose pictures she presented is still working in the Bush Administration.

    He’s the same man Hillary Clinton named as the person blocking the procedural existence of any legitmate official withdrawal plans or contingencies from reaching the Armed Services Committee.

    Comment by whoframedrudy | 2008-01-02 21:42:50

    Clinton’s showdown with Eric Edelman(mine) is a good example of what you’re talking about.
    While Obama was making speeches to court the anti-war left, Clinton had her eye on Cheney and the Pentagon. She found out contingency planning for safe troop withdrawal was being blocked — to limit the redeployment options of the next President. We know what happened next — she called Edelman on it, and put pressure on Gates. Hillary had sources in the Pentagon that alerted her to Edelman’s game, bucking Cheney in the process. A perfect example of the difference between saying ‘bring the troops home’ and making it happen.
    Nixon said that, even in 1960 after 8 years as VP, he didn’t yet have the skills to make his China opening. It took him another 8 years traveling the world to get to that level.
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    Is this one of the persons Edmonds has named?
    Comment is from an Obama/Iraq thread:

    http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/31/obamas-campaign-nervous-cs-about-iraq/#more-1232 Why yes, yes it is.

    Comment by Mr.Murder | 2008-01-06 20:09:41
    She also names the photos listed:

    Sibel Speaks Part II: Naming Names…
    I have decided that after years of not getting anyone to publish what I have found out about the Edmonds case, I am simply going to give you folks some names. I won’t explain what the allegations are, or how these people might fit together or even if they fit together. I also don’t claim to have all the names or know the full story by any means. But I am certain, that brilliant bloggers, researchers, and journalists will finally figure it out:
    Richard Perle
    Doug Feith
    Eric Edelman
    Marc Grossman
    Larry Franklin
    Dennis Hastert
    Roy Blunt
    Dan Burton
    Tom Lantos
    Bob Livingston
    Stephen Solarz
    Graham Fuller
    David Makovsky
    Alan Markovsky
    Enver Yusuf
    Sabri Sayari
    Mehmet Eymur

    http://www.atlargely.com/
    She also names companies associated with those persons…
    http://www.atlargely.com/

    Hillary Clinton has publicly stated a roadblock to any withdrawal in Iraq is Edelman. He is also a person who Sibel Edmonds says has ties to those stonewalling translations after 9-11, and to people who appear to have actually trained those attackers or given them free pass to try and get closer to the resource assets those terror interests are closest identified with…
    h/t whoframdedrudy

  • Tim

    Can someone please answer this simple question for me.

    “How is it possible that these well known gov. officials overheard by Edmonds did not realize that their conversations on the phones would be picked up by the NSA?”

    These are individuals with long years of experience in the workings of the US government!!!

    • hope4usa

      I believe they were unaware that an on-going investigation into some other unrelated matter warranted the wiretaps. I don’t believe this was an accidental intercept, someone/group was being investigated by FBI.

  • hope4usa

    If Edelman is blocking the planning for the troops to come home, wouldn’t this story/investigation eliminate him from the picture? Why doesn’t someone forward Edmond’s story to HRC or Wilson to get that ball rolling.

  • wethornet

    Comment by Mr.Murder | 2008-01-08 01:44:20

    mr. murder. re: your post above. you’re a rock star.

  • CK

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0409.sirota.html
    25mill from BCCI to GWB.
    http://www.chris-floyd.com/Articles/Articles/The_Bomb_in_the_Shadows:_Proliferation,_Corruption_and_the_Way_of_the_World/
    From BCCI to the Sibel Edmonds expose.
    There is also an Enron connection and the ubiquitous Iran Contra connection.
    And the Carlyle connection.
    Good thing these are only co-incidences and not in any way to be construed as a co-ordinated and long running operation i.e a conspiracy.

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