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Heidi Fleiss Preaches Abstinence?

By Larry Johnson on January 29, 2009 at 6:53 PM in Current Affairs

Who is more credible? Hollywood madam, err former madam, Heidi Fleiss preaching against prostitution and encouraging abstinence or Republicans bitching about pork barrel and deficit spending in the Obama economic plan?

Frankly, I think Heidi makes more sense. I only have one simple question for the Republicans–WHERE THE FUCK WERE YOU FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS?

I would find their protestations about the Obama plan to bankrupt America more credible if they had shown some measure of giving a shit when they held power. They helped bankrupt America by spending billions in Iraq. Frankly, getting lectures from the likes of Mitch McConnel or Ted Stevens on pork barrel spending or out of control federal spending is laughable.

This does not mean I think the Obama plan is the cat’s meow. To the contrary, it will simply run up the debt tab and unleash an inflationary spiral down the road that will ultimately come back to bite us and the Democratic majority in the ass. But at the end of the day this is about politics not economics. Too bad neither party is thinking about the welfare of the American people.

  • Hank

    Amen.

  • obamastolemyboyfriend

    I’m thoroughly disgusted with our Government. They keep forgetting they work for us and should be doing what we tell them!

    • RebelCarol

      That’s why Congress’ approval rating is so low. And somebody needs to sew Pelosi’s mouth shut. Now that woman gives women a bad name.

      • LonnieH

        Pelosi is neither human, nor female. She is a sick dirty old dog that I wish would drop dead.

        • Seattle Moss

          Hey Lonnie H,
          Nazi Pelosi makes me sick

          Her talk about the great depression tanked the market..
          I don’t trust anyone that comes from San Fran

  • BlueTopaz

    Too bad neither party is thinking about the welfare of the American people.

    Never have, never will.

  • oowawa

    Too bad neither party is thinking about the welfare of the American people.

    Yes.

    I don’t like the Democrats.
    I don’t like the Republicans.
    I don’t like people who are enthusiastic partisans of either one of these parties.

    Party Unity My Ass is my credo right now: cultivate a skeptical attitude about everything that comes out of the political arena.

    • ChooChooMagoo

      cultivate a skeptical attitude about everything that comes out of the political arena.

      Here Here! They are all criminal suspects.

      • jwrjr

        Didn’t Will Rogers observe that the only uniquely American criminal class was Congress?

  • http://Godhelpusall lee M

    Bill Clinton left us with a surplus. Dubya got us so far in debt that we will never get out. With this so-called stimulus bill we will be so far down the toilet that we’d better all start learning to speak and write Chinese.

    When the Chinese call in their debt who are WE going to call – Ghost Busters?

    • Andy

      Good comment lee M.

    • BlueTopaz

      Already planning on learning Chinese, gotta think ahead.

      • Belle Gardens

        But if their economic outlook was in fact based on a devalued currency, they’re not in good shape, either.

  • wodiej

    Yes both parties are to blame, The fact is, it is still a PORKULUS SPENDING PLAN. And since the Dimocrats are the ones spouting it’s virtue and it’s a disaster, its’ up to the Republicans to do something about it now.

    • LonnieH

      The PROBLEM is that this country has become full of lazy azzes looking for handouts and spending their time whining that other people actually work hard and earn a good living. If people would stop sitting on their azzes waiting for the welfare check, or flooding this country with illegals who pay NO taxes and take the jobs Americans should have, then maybe things would be different. Every single liberal agenda item is a drain on this bursting economy. Let the illegals in by the boat and busloads. Let’s feed them, house them, pay for their educations, give them welfare and SS and never tax them. Wow. Let’s let people sit around and give them more money for doing it. This country will NEVER prosper again. Never. Because to be successful in this country has now become a crime. To be a lazy whiner means you are part of the party in power today. The welfare party.

      • BlueTopaz

        bursting economy ?????

        Not lately, in case you’re too lazy to see what’s going on around you.

        • LonnieH

          Uh are you too dumb to know what I MEANT? We can’t AFFORD to support EVERYONE these days.

          • BlueTopaz

            I’m not a mind reader. Just responding to your ignorant statement. I guess I missed the emoticon expressing sarcasm. Uh wait, I didn’t miss it, you were too dumb to add it.

  • LD

    LJ,

    Time for a credible third party in this country. In fact, it is long overdue!!

    Any chance?? Too much money locked up in the RNC and DNC to make it happen? If it ever had a chance, now is the time.

    • Hank

      The problem is that our constitutional framework is set up for winner-take-all. We need a parliamentary-style democracy where power-sharing coalitions between parties are required to govern, in order for credible third and even fourth parties to emerge. Runoff elections should be required at the federal level. See Israel and others for examples.

      • athy

        Hank,
        to your point-
        we dont even have access to viable third party candidates in this country during election time.

        Not only that but even viable candidates from the two major parties are not allowed to participate in national debates so that the public can hear them and their ideas.

        Check out this interactive map to see who serves on this commission (ps Caroline Kennedy is one of 9 directors-check out the rest-including the corporate sponsors.)

        http://www.muckety.com/Commission-on-Presidential-Debates/5056566.muckety

        Problem with how debates are handled in US.

        http://www.opendebates.org/documents/REPORT2.pdf

        How fair is the electoral process?

        • Hank

          Thanks athy: really good information.

    • ChooChooMagoo

      LD -

      Time for a credible third party in this country. In fact, it is long overdue!! … If it ever had a chance, now is the time.

      Agree 100%. Now is the time! How do we do it?

  • KmX

    Only Congress can approve money to spend not the President. The DEMs were in control of COngress since 2006 not the republicans. Liberal republicans and liberal democrats are both to blame for all bailout spreee on Washington. I do agree both parties are guilty of enormous spending. I fear inflation and the devaluation of the dollar if we do not get back to fiscal responsibility.

    Thank goodness for Conservative Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats who understand that this country is in serious economic troubles.

    • NoBamaNoWay

      uh, i’m not sure i’d call the folks who supported the bail-out “liberals.” this country was already bankrupt by 2006. certainly the dems have been complicit in the mismanagement, but i wouldn’t call the 2000 $1,600,000,000,000 giveaway to the rich a “liberal” action.

  • http://deleted Aaron

    Listen this whole argument, that Republicans were irresponsible before so we shouldn’t listen to them pointing out the irresponsibility now, is a quite adolescent. I am not justifying the actions of Republicans for 6 out the last 8 years but that doesn’t mean that their argument is incorrect and should be ignored.

    • Hank

      “No” isn’t an argument.

  • KmX

    One party cannot be blame for what is happening. Neither can we put the blame on too little regulation. We have regulations. The problem is laws are not enforce.

    If too little regulation was the problem, how can we explain the United Kingdom, Russia, China and almost every develope country in an economic slump. The UK and China have very strict regulation and yet they could not stop the financial decline.

    One Bankrupt the Bank of Englanda few years ago. That same man is now livign in America. I think a lot of this problem has to do with Hedge Fund Managers who are betting against the America currency.

    Lets begin by regulating Hedge Funds and Brokerage Houses.

    • Welcome Back Carteh

      Scumbag. Cynics never laughed so heartily as when Soros appeared before a Congress he largely owns along with the owners of four other hedge funds. Needless to say, shorting the market continues.

  • fiscalliberal

    Watching CNBC I am getting the distince impression this is getting out of hand. He did not get an bipartisain support in the house. Now we will see what he gets in the Senate.

    Will the Senate Republicans do an actural fillibuster. The democrats didn’t in the last congress.

    Gasporino (CNBC Editor) says Treasury and the Banks are in near deadlock in terms of developing a purchase of toxic assetes. CNBC verbals say they need 2 trillion which swamps the Stimulu Package.

    This is all starting to unravel like it did under Reagan. Excellent reading is a book by Davd Stockman who was Reagans OMB man. He said the problem was not the Democrats, it was the Republicans. Specifically Cap Weinberger broke the budget. To date, R. Reagan and George Bush hold he records for deficits. Obama is going to make them look like pikers

    Yup – George left a mess, however Obama asked for the job and would bring hope – lets see how it works out.

    • Welcome Back Carteh

      Republicans have been mailing balls to Mitch McConell’s office all day long. Hopefully, he gets the message and follows the Boehner and Cantor’s lead in the House.

      • Belle Gardens

        Republicans have been mailing balls to Mitch McConell’s office all day long.

        (Snicker)

        You either have them, or you don’t.

        It’s pretty obvious nothing will save them, the republican and democratic guys like McConnell were not built for this type of work, so to speak.

        They were never qualified in the first place, they don’t know what to do, or how to resolve the problems.

        Perhaps it will have to get so bad, even the timid and myopic will be forced to innovate.

  • fiscalliberal

    LD – last credible 3rd party proponent was John Andersen of Illinois who wasa modrate Republican. He got swamped by both sides.

    Who is available today for such a role?

    • lark

      The opportunity fell on Hillary and she punted so now we wait again.

  • Peggy Sue

    It is something of charade to have the Republicans beating their breasts on this current bloated bill. Where were they indeed for the first 6 years of the Bush administration?? Now, that Republicans have nothing to lose because they’ve already lost, they become the champions of the “little guy’s” wallet.

    No, I have more respect for the Blue Dog Dems, who have gone against their own party and a Democratic President. They voted from their own economic policy/position/consciousness which is far more moderate and/or conservative than the majority of the present Democratic Party. I wish there were more of them.

    It’s easy to follow the herd. Pusing against it is a harder job.

    So, good for them! And maybe, with a little gumption in the Senate, we’ll get a tighter and more effective package. No one wants to see this thing fail. We all have far too much to risk.

    • Welcome Back Carteh

      The Blue Dogs would have voted with the other Dems, if the Republicans had gone along with the bill. They’re Democrats serving in traditionally conservative districts who have to worry about reelection like every other pol.

  • Mary Kay

    The solution is simple: Tax and interest-free holiday for three months in the summer. The Democratic plan didn’t work in the 1930′s. Why does anyone think it will work now?

  • Welcome Back Carteh

    I think voting down this crap sandwich is about America, and if it takes politics to make Republicans take a principled stand, then so be it. Both parties suck more often than not, but those who have been sent out of power and have to worry about their jobs can be reasoned with. The Democrats are doubling down on the corruption now, having finally gotten back into power.

  • lark

    I hear you Larry, but look at it this way. First they lost in the last election bad. So if you want to look at it as politics from what you said, and not economics, then they already paid the price, big time, and it looks as if it will be quite a workout to recover. So in terms of outrage, the penalty flag has been lifted and the verdict rendered. They were sent to the showers.

    If you know that your home team is planning to burn the field, the stands and tear the park down, win or loose, I don’t think you can enjoy the cheerleaders. The game needs to be stopped, cancel, forfeited. Reps win if only on account of having won the coin toss.

  • mel

    Blago was just impeached and removed from office, now on to Obama!

  • TeakwoodKite

    Two sides of the same coin and in many cases the same area code.

  • CG

    LD, I agree

    Time for a credible third party in this country. In fact, it is long overdue!!

    Any chance?? Too much money locked up in the RNC and DNC to make it happen? If it ever had a chance, now is the time.

    All we really need is honest leaders, but money corrupts absolutely. The majority of Americans can’t be bothered to do a critical analysis on the obscenity of it all, and members of both political parties are counting on that level of public passivity, so they keep on making choices that are not in the interests of Americans in favor of cash, and naturally corporate media has no interest in exposing it. This election cycle is one for the record books in terms of money raised, spent and retained, and it should be scrutinized, as an example of why this is an absurd way to find the best leaders, rather it is only finding the best fund-raisers. Unfortunately there are so many layers with PAC monies and all, but obviously we can trace the influence… if only enough people cared. Just think of one potentially great leader who will not come forward, because of the expectation to exceed the fund-raising capability of Obama.

    • Hank

      Just think of one potentially great leader who will not come forward, because of the expectation to exceed the fund-raising capability of Obama.

      I honestly feel that no one person can save us. We as a society have to collectively decide to change. Of course, societies don’t collectively change! The answer lies inside each of us individually.

      • LonnieH

        What the HELL is wrong with you people and this incredible CHANGE? This is frigging AMERICA. It’s ALWAYS going to be frigging AMERICA. Just because the sick demented LEFT thinks that they have destroyed us…good luck with that. We have survived way worse than Obama the Fraud and Pelosi. We WILL get RID of those America hating freaks and America will survive. For all of you that hate America and think “we are done.” To HELL with you. We only just started. And if you don’t like it then get the HELL OUT.

        • BlueTopaz

          We WILL get RID of those America hating freaks

          Can we start with you? I hear Iraq is nice this time of year.

          (no emoticon needed because I’m not joking)

        • Seattle Moss

          Lonnie H

          Just because the sick demented LEFT thinks that they have destroyed us…good luck with that. We have survived way worse than Obama the Fraud and Pelosi.

          You are so correct…America is a 14 trillion economy for which I produce and contribute..
          These leftist loons want Marxism..OK said it!

          Something for nothing!!

          • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

            Seattle Moss: Notwithstanding the merits of critiquing the hard left… what do you think of the manner in which LonnieH is expressing herself? Sounds a bit unhinged to me.

  • johninca

    I felt that this site had a post-election slump, but this is the NQ I loved… where LCJ lampoons without mercy the crooked habits in both parties.

    • TeakwoodKite

      True, while the times we live in, are traveled by all manner of fools, Mr. Johnson has a level head and an even sharper wit.

  • socalannie

    Haha! Great post Larry! The repubs are being their usual hypocritical selves. I see its business as usual in DC. They wasted obscene amounts of money when they were in control, now its the Dems turn. I’m not feeling the change.

  • cynic

    A lot of people seem to think that the way for the republican party to resurrect itself is for it to embrace all the harder all those policies, strategies, and hard-line attitudes that turned a majority of American voters away from it in the first place.

    Maybe that sort of thinking needs to be reexamined?

    Just today a high-profile republican senator has proudly predicted the same sort of unanimous, blanket republican rejection of the stimulus package in the Senate that we saw in the House.

    What’s happening is that the republicans are refusing to even participate. By rejecting democratic concessions and any and all attempts at compromise, they’re effectively minimizing the input that they’ll have in the final form that the stimulus package takes.

    In what way do they serve their own constituents and their own political philosophy by doing that?

    What’s not being said is that if the stimulus package goes through as an entirely democratic creation, the repubulicans will be secretly hoping for its total failure.

    That would seem to suggest that they might care more for the success of their own party than for the success of the nation.

    I would certainly hate to believe that’s the case.

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