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Voter Intimidation in Nevada (+ Caucus Open Thread)

SUNDAY UPDATE: A John Edwards supporter, “jedreport,” has written a diary at MyDD: “A thank you to Hillary supporters in my precinct“: “[W]e had just 9 Edwards supporters. We needed 13 to be viable (out of 86). I gave a short speech, and 3 uncommitteds joined us, and 3 others who had been with Hillary, making us viable. By making us viable, the Hillary supporters actually hurt Hillary. She went from what would have been a 3:2 delegate win over Obama to a tie, 2:2:1 …” (read all). Now that’s the Democratic party spirit on display!

SAT. UPDATE via Taylor Marsh: “NEVADA UPSET: Clinton over Obama

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Taylor Marsh has been on this story since last week. This morning, in “Free Elections Epilogue,” Taylor posts, “Salon.com’s Joan Walsh this morning”:

But United Farmworkers’ Union co-founder Dolores Huerta went further, accusing the Culinary Workers Union of intimidating Clinton supporters and keeping them away from the caucuses. Union leaders are telling Clinton backers if they don’t vote for Obama, “they won’t get transportation, they will be fired,” Huerta said. She also argued that Clinton has a “cultural, political and social relationship with the Latino community, which Senator Obama does not have.” Latinos call Clinton “Hilaria,” Huerta said, adding derisively that they call Sen. Obama “Como se llama?” (as in “What’s his name?”) …

… .. Pro-Clinton blogger Taylor Marsh picked up the tale, relying on Marie Angers’ account. But so far, Antuna has been silent since talking to the Sun. Reached by telephone Friday afternoon, at first she didn’t want to talk. “I’m just afraid to say anything,” she said. But then the CWU shop steward of 24 years agreed to tell her story.

Taylor continues:

As Walsh states in her piece, Atuna has been silent since originally talking to the Sun. Angers, whose name I have not used until this post, would not even allow me to use her name in the audio interview (the story I broke before anyone). As I said in this post taking on the Sun’s piece, this is about free elections and having the right to vote for whomever you want.

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  • Kathleen

    fair process. Hooey….WTF

  • TeakWoodKite

    Looking at CNN; yelling and hollering what a mess. This is voting? I am sure that Hillary knows what Chicago style politics looks like. I am expecting a brawl to break out.

  • susanunpc

    Boy, I wish our tea-party caucuses were that agitated! Ha! (Actually, I hate our caucus system in Wash. state, and wish we’d go to a regular primary.)

    MSNBC First Read reports that Obama left Nevada about two to three hours ago — he flew home to Illinois. He must have known, before the caucus results began to come in, that he was going to lose.

  • Cee
  • NB

    I highly doubt the Clinton camp had anything to do with those calls…I don’t even think it really does anything for most democrats. Something like that might make a difference in the general election, but I really don’t think it matters for most democrats…this is the first I have heard of the robocalls, so I wonder if the Clinton campaign was even involved. I am sure they will denounce them as soon as they do hear about them, as they have done with everything else (perhaps they didnt denounce bob johnson, but they did make him apologize). And, of course, this is something that Barack Obama refuses to do, he has yet to force anyone to apologize or denounce anyone who makes sexist or bigoted comments, or engages in race baiting from his campaign (just a few of the incidents I refer to are Jesse Jackson Jr. saying about Hillary, “Those tears need to be analyzed, why didn’t she cry for Katrina”, that was both sexist and race baiting, his SC spokesperson who released that race baiting memo, Donnie McClurkin who made bigoted comments about homosexuals, he is still part of Obama’s umbrella of unity, and most recently the clearly race baiting advertisements released by UNITE HERE on Obama’s behalf). So, if Obama makes an issue out of this, I just want to say SHOVE IT. I am sorry, but he has such a ridiculous double standard.

    And seriously, why is his name so charged?

    Hillary Rhodam Cinton
    Barack Hussein Obama

    If he really thinks he is never going to have to use his middle name he is wrong. Personally, his name does not bother me one bit. He is not a Muslim, and no one should insinuate as such and the Clinton campaign has denounced that and fired their volunteer when she was caught sending around such emails…

  • susanunpc

    From the home page of the Las Vegas Sun:

    Clinton carried five of the sites on the strip, despite Culinary

    The victory in Nevada was decisive and included a stunning showing at the nine controversial at-large sites on the Las Vegas Strip. She won seven of the nine sites, according to Sun reporters inside each caucus room.

    The Culinary Union had painted itself as the state’s presidential kingmaker all year. It ran an aggressive field program but did not endorse Obama until last week, just 10 days before the caucus. The outcome demonstrates that the endorsement itself was counter to the wishes of the union’s rank and file. Continue reading

  • Cee

    I highly doubt the Clinton camp had anything to do with those calls

    Weeks ago I would have agreed with you. Not now.
    I put nothing past the Clinton camp.

  • TeakWoodKite

    This is the second time in 48 hours I have heard about bot calls. People who employee these tactics should be required to state the company making the call and the persons who paid for the service. They also should be required to have a REAL caller ID. I am sick and tired of my caller ID feature getting jacked. Last night we got a phone call in support of Obama. I seems like I ought to call John Kerry up and thank him for it. ( I don’t want calls from any 527)
    I have worked with these systems and these call centers have the potential ability to bury the phone circuits on a national level. Keep in mind that Karl Rove could have paid for this service and you might never find out.

    Crap! even bowtied Tucker wants to know where these calls came from. Is there a web site these phone-bot companies have to “register” at?

  • TeakWoodKite

    I agree with you Cee, in saying nice guys finish last. (See John Edwards) What is an interesting subtext is both Hillary and Obama are quite familar with the “rough and tumble” nature of Chicago style politics. Hillary wrote of her childhood growing up in a Republican household. Where as Obama learned it in the 313.

    Nevada is “rough and tumble” state.

    President Hillary Rhodam Cinton
    President Barack Hussein Obama

    This is how they would be referred to I think, no?

    If anybody is fool enough to think that both racism and sexism are not alive and well in the US, they are dreaming. Given that, why is it that watching the MSM, we hear…”well the black vote the hispanic vote, the woman vote, the angry white man vote…went to this or that candidate?
    Why not the the illegal immigrant vote? We will have to wait for the General for that one.

  • http://www.evergreenpolitics.com shoephone

    I hate the caucus as well, Susan. I railed against it on one of the Northwest blogs recently and got reamed by the party regulars for daring to poijnt out that in the 2000 election the WA State Caucus only brought in 2% of voters, while the primary brought in 40%. But, as you know, our state’s Democratic party operatives decided they will only choose delegates from the caucus, and none from the primary.

    It’s an ass-backwarded, outmoded, unfair, eliitst, hostile-to-voters system that automatically disenfranchises many who cannot take five hours from their Saturday (those who must work, those are caretakers of children, the elderly, or the disabled, and those who may be disabled themselves) to go sit in a crowded room for 5 hours and have to declare their preferences publicly, before their friends and neighbors.

    Gee, and I remember the old days, when we fought for the right of all to vote freely, privately, and without intimidation. I’m just such a romantic.

  • http://www.evergreenpolitics.com shoephone

    Please excuse my many typos. I create bad spelling when I’m mad.

  • http://www.evergreenpolitics.com shoephone

    All campaign robo calls should be illegal. Period.

  • http://www.evergreenpolitics.com shoephone

    If anybody is fool enough to think that both racism and sexism are not alive and well in the US, they are dreaming.

    Add homophobia to that as well. What finally turned me off to Obama was his cynical McClurkin move in SC.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    I’m dreading it. For one thing, I’m not sure I can physically go. And my daughter is really dreading going to a caucus in the Seattle Wallingford area as a Hillary supporter. She just knows she’ll be outnumbered and probably treated with hostility by Obama people.

    I’m so hoping that Feb. 5 settles everything so I can skip it.

    (Methinks the party insiders like the elitist element because they think they can control who votes more.)

  • TeakWoodKite

    I agree!

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    Even more fun: Culinary says that having Bill Clinton walking down the Strip, pressing the flesh and shmoozing, amounts to, “dirty politics.”

  • Kathleen

    Creepy

  • Cee

    Teak,

    LOL! Tune in to Lou Dobbs for that.

    You know who I blame for bringing the above issues into this race.
    I’m not going to get over it.
    I forgot to add that her campaign also pitted the young against the old when they wanted to prevent the youth from being part of the caucus in Iowa.
    I won’t forget. I agree with what Frank Rich said about this campaign.

  • TeakWoodKite

    So we are truly followers?

    “I understand that many of you are still a little skeptical,” Obama said Friday night at a King banquet in Las Vegas. “But not as skeptical as you were before Iowa. Sometimes it takes other folks before we believe ourselves.”

    FOOOOOOD FIGHT!!! In who’s name??

    After appearing in Harlem, Clinton picked up the endorsement of the Rev. Calvin Butts. As dozens of Obama supporters shouted “Harlem for Obama,” Clinton’s supporters tried to drown them out by shouting “Hil-la-ry!”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080121/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_blacks

  • http://1950democrat.livejournal.com 1950democrat

    Update: Here’s a video from the Obama campaign promoting their “Democrat for a Day” scheme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUE4Kp0YERs

    This is very professional, expensively produced video.

    SURE Obama himself didn’t know his campaign was doing this stuff.

    The paper flyer in Nevada might have been dismissed as an individual mistake … the webpage in Florida (up from April till Nov and still in a Google cache at http://tinyurl.com/24pvlg ) … might have been some kind of abberation….

    But this expensive video? Will Saint Obama disavow all knowledge of THIS?

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