Clusterf#@k to the Poor House – Economic Recovery Plan [Video Update]

If you have not called your Senators already or faxed them (many of the phone lines are jammed but I had some luck with faxing) – do it NOW.

I hope you want them to vote NO on this because it’s not going to help anything except some very wealthy investors take advantage of the average person ONE MORE TIME.

There is a list of numbers here:
http://moveovermoveon.posterous.com/senate-phonefax-lists-we-mail

that video was hilarious! but, very true. I think why so many people are ticked off is that obama campaigned, blaming the bush admin, and kept chanting *change*. But, now he is in office, and he seems wore then a kid in a candy store. it doesn’t seem like responsible spending, and it doesn’t seem like he even knew what was in that bill. AND he doesn’t seem to be really *reaching across the aisle*. He just expected the repubs would cave into their demands….

and throw in all the scandals with his new administration, he is just screwing himself.

true, the war got us into this mess, with all that spending. HOWEVER, the Dems voted for it all, too. they are equally to blame.

the problem now, moving forward, is that additional crap spending, in my opinion, isn’t the way out. and, while the right and left voted to fund Iraq, it doesn’t mean they should NOW vote to spend all that money for Hollywood, new cars, and STD prevention.
what is that, two wrongs don’t make a right…

and you are right, Obama is trying to use scare tactics, the very thing he campaigned against!

nothing has changed. we have the same idiots running around DC, with their charts and graphs. the only difference is one party liberated a country of a dictator, (and we can always argue the weapons of mass destruction, and 16 broken resolutions, prior to the invasion, and that this happened after 9/11) but now, the other party wants to go shopping, and buy new furniture.

thanks for posting that video, it was so funny! and true!

Thank you for posting this info – I called both my Senators in Ohio.

Where’s your evidence for that?

oh geez….well said!!

http://michellemalkin.com/

Please read and call.

and you are right on about that common sense talk! time for specifics, not lofty partisam speeches, like he gave last night.

I just finished Newt’s video, and he was so right!

Sorry, I couldn’t get past 4 minutes of KKK style racist John Stewart. I used to like him and Colbert, but they are dead to me now. But it was interesting to hear the tentative laughter when the joke is about Obama.

Anybody know what their ratings have been like since the installment of Obozo The Clown?

“KKK style racist John Stewart.”

???

I just can’t get on board with Jon Stewart after the way he acted during primaries. He’s just a failed actor, anyway. I was watching an old re-run of The Nanny and he played a bit part.

sara: one does begin to wonder if this country is in the hands of a few bipartisan corrupt politicians who keep figuring out how to enrich themselves at the expense of everyone on the globe.

he can’t be kkk he’s jewish

WONDER?????!

Ooops, forgot the snark. Don’t you realize that anybody that says anything about Obama must be a racist?

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer’s Newt!

Consider this a springboard to the next presidential primary season!

Even Nixon has his second act and you can bet Newt is not going to miss out on his.

…And then there’s Claire. Has the karma wheel spun for her yet?

At least the stimulus package is providing us with some b-partisan fodder!

I’m still holding a bit of a grudge for his behavior during the Writers strike…but that’s just me.

I agree with Newt. And this was my main obection to 0bama in the first place. He wasn’t in the Senate long enough to know the ropes coupled with a personality that is not amenable to compromise and working things out.

My knowledge of the economy and the workings of finance is piss poor, but my common sense tells me that there are a lot of things in this Bill that need too be removed. I also agree with those that say that the focus is on government providing jobs without any focus on the private sector. There needs to be a happy medium in both areas and it’s missing.

We are in dire circumstances and like it or not that’s the real deal, it’s not fear-mongering. All the more reason I was SO passionate about Hillary becoming POTUS. We needed the experience, the brillance and the expertise that she could have brought to the WH. And yes, it was no small thing that she was married to an ex-President that would have been riding ‘shotgun’ so-to-speak.

Our country is facing a unique time in our history and the last thing we needed was a guy who is dealing with his first day at the rodeo.

But no… the msm, our youth as well as AAs desperate for what was an ultimate validation, had to have 0bama. They behaved like small children throwing a tantrum. The man is only 47 years old. he had 8 years to wait with no problem

If 0bama doesn’t shift gears, he… WE are in big trouble.

It’s like “wondering” if it rains in Seattle!

true, the war got us into this mess, with all that spending. HOWEVER, the Dems voted for it all, too. they are equally to blame.

Yes, they did.

Let us not forget, however, that that strong democratic resistance to that decision was overcome by a carefully coordinated PR campaign that convinced the American people it was either invade, or wake up to news bulletins with photos of a mushroom cloud spreading over an American city. Simultaneously every conservative media outlet was promoting the idea that opposition was not just irresponsible, but unpatriotic–perhaps even treasonous. I remember that well. When you add falsified intelligence and suppressed intelligence to the mix, I think it has to be admitted that culpability in the matter is not truly equal.

This is water under the bridge now, but I believe it’s important that we keep our history straight. It’s a matter of making our future decisions with a clear memory of what happened in the past. The fact that what was said in the past is now part of a permanent video archive certainly helps. No one is safe from the truth it can reveal. It’s a double-edged sword.

Some strongly promoted wrong policy. Others failed to hold to their convictions and resist it. There’s fault to be found with both.

Thank you SusanUnPC for spotlighting the 800 lb. gorilla in the room: that is, if government spending could solve the current crisis, why are we in crisis to begin with? The Bush administration raised the national debt tremendously and yet here we are.

I don’t believe the current legislators and POTUS are stupid in their failure to learn this lesson. Rather, it’s sheer opportunism: they’re trying to take advantage of the public’s gloom (and short memories) and ram through EVEN MORE government spending, when Job One should be solving the credit crunch. But that involves hard work, careful consideration and much deliberation. And maybe some unpopular decision-making, otherwise known as leadership. Poll-driven window dressing like pretending to cap executive bonuses is nothing but bi-partisan grandstanding and doesn’t fix the problem.

I contacted my senators several days ago telling them to vote NO.

Well, this confirms it. I don’t enjoy Jon Stewarts biased and distorted coverage.

He has become another apologist for Obama and the Dem’s when he goes so far to twist the facts. And he really irks me to have to come to the defense of Republicans on some of these issues, because of his dishonesty on the topic.

Doing what he is to blur spending all together has got to get embarrassing for him eventually. After all, he used to display integrity.

Maybe Jon needs a refresher course on government. Does he realize we are talking about an addition spending bill called the Stimulus for Recovery (of a Recession) and it is not a Budget or War bill, as he carelessly makes it all seem the same.

Why are the Democrats argument it’s bad, but his was bad too? I’m sorry, I thought you realized people didn’t like bad and elected you based on CHANGE.

I happen to like the other truism, TWO WRONGS DON’T MAKE A RIGHT, Senator Boxer, “whre were you on Bush’s spending bills”.

And while I’m at it, again, excellent points Newt (and I cannot believe I am saying that) Republicans are looking more and more like the sensible party.

Yes, well said.

None of this is “change we can believe in.” It’s the same old crap we’re used to.

i sent emails. phones were impossible.

There is really something more serious than an economy when I would rather listen to Gingrich than 0bama. And I have ALWAYS dispised Newt.

The new administration needs to be given a chance. Creating an economic recovery package, for an entire country, is the same as community organizing.

Running a campaign is also the same as governing a large and diverse country like ours during an economic meltdown caused, in part, by the previous administration.

Really. Trust me.

(snark for the snark impaired)

Amen and right on ..

nah its just the same ole fear mongerling.

PEBO is in over his head and it is showing.
He may be able to bully approval of HIS Stimulus Package as he bullied his nomination (to run for POTUS) by the Democrat Party; but that doesn’t mean the Proposals will work.

IMHO, the Stimulus Package is too unfocused and too broad to do what is proposed.

A Plan that first targets the housing meltdown (stops Foreclousres) and reinvigerates the housing sector; Second creates jobs (quickly); and, Third gets the Banks lending money to citizens (just regular folks), the small business sector and big companies (like the auto-industry, et al) would have a chance at ending the Recession (more quickly).

This more simplified approach would be a much better solution then the Clusterf**k that is now on the table for consideration. Any Proposals not easily explained using these three concepts should be excluded (for now). Later, some of the other “good” ideas proposed by PEBO and Company could be considered for implementation.

What PEBO’s Plan looks like to me is a “community organizers” Trillion Dollar Wish List, i.e. something for everybody. PEBO’s unfocused approach dooms to failure this (NON) Stimulus Package.

The Senate needs to refuse to be bullied by scare tactics, vote down the PEBO Plan and work together to spend a Trillion Dollars on a Stimulus Plan that WILL work!!

i completely agree there was a media drumbeat for the war. And I have defended Hillary’s vote on the resolution many times, for those very reasons.

My comment above was the decisions for the Dems to continue funding the war.

Thanks for this. I sent an e-mail to Sen. Specter imploring him to not support this stimulus bill.

I also sent an e-mail to Sen. Graham thanking him for speaking up and standing up those that do not support this stimulus spending bill.

OH. ahaha sorry. a lot of people do hate Stewart, so i didn’t get the snark.

I still like him.

Thanks for posting this. I particularly enjoyed Newt’s observations. And boy do I miss Reagan.

SO true, also if we could get the media clairvoyants to quit trying to push this thru as well, take a breath and read the package before they keep sinking their teeth into anyone in opposition; we are suppose to examine things that cost the taxpayers, their money.

The Republicans are doing a disservice to this country. They are complaining about less than 2% of the overall stimulus of which most of it is out.

You can argue about whether the government should be doing a stimulus all you want. But the reality is that every day this country is moving more and more into deflation, which tends to downward spiral and it feeds on itself, and the longer it goes on the longer and harder it is to break-out. Job lay-offs and plant closing leads to more economic decline, which results in more job lay-offs and economic decline. This is the fastest we have moved toward deflation since the great depression.

You can argue about tax cuts, but this bill has more than 40% tax cuts in it. You can argue about only having tax cuts with no spending stimulus, but tax cuts are very inefficient at immediate creating jobs. The whole point of the stimulus package is to get money into the economy fast to create some immediate jobs and to kick-start the economy. The other alternative would be to do nothing. That is a big risk as the country potentially moves toward 10-12% unemployment. Some might also say that we should not spend, but fix the housing problem. Not sure exactly how you would do that and that will not create any immediate jobs, but that is exactly what the TARP and potentially TARP II are potentially for.

Nobody is trying to scare anyone. The adminstration is just trying to be real, as time is not working on the side of the economy.

The reality is that Obama has been handed a shit sandwich in the first three weeks of office. You can critize him all you want, but at the end of the day he is trying to fix the economic mismanagement of the Republicans. You should be screaming at the Republicans for getting us into this mess.

You can say that Obama created this economy and this deficit, as he was a Senator (as Larry Johnson is trying to do), but if you are a realist about it, the Democrats really did not have much power. The Republicans did not rule in any kind of bipartisan fashion and even in the last two years when the Dems took charge of the House they really had no power, as Bush took out his veto pen every time.

The problems of this economy were started well before 2007 when the Dems took the house. Everything from irresponsible tax cuts during a time of war, to the war itself, to the housing bubble, which was largely created by the Bush adminstration, to interest rate policy, to a deregulation laisse fair attitude, to record budget deficits all contributed to where we are today. The Republicans simply miss-managed the country and the economy. You can also blame the American public by loading up on all kinds of debt and living beyond our means on other peoples money. The chicken is coming home to roast.

What the Republicans are doing now, all their grandstanding and showboating, is disgusting, a disgrace and unAmerican. They are once again putting politics and party first over what is best for the economy.

If all the Republicans got is politics then they will once again get what they deserve, another trouncing at the poles. I think some of the Republicans like Spector know this and that is why they are trying to be constructive and not showboating like these idiots Boehner, McConnell and Graham.

Do some educating of yourself, find-out what is really going on before you run-off at the mouth. A good place to start is to look at the actual spending in the original bill. There is a good list line item by line item at this link:

http://appropriations.house.gov/pdf/PressSummary01-15-09.pdf

Most of it is very good spending that will be an investment in this country and help strengthen it. This is far from a bill full of pork. Like I said at the beginning the Republicans are only complaining about two percentage of the entire original $850 bn. Who cares about the 2%?

Obama, I say to you, good luck and godspeed in trying to get something done to fix this economy. God knows you are not going to get any help from the Republicans

And to the rest of you I hope you do not lose your job and then come crying to the government to help you out, to find you a job, pay you unemployment (which is running out) or help you once you lose your medical coverage.

Bring it to a current thread you useless little troll. Say something other than bad Republicans and good Democrats(sic) .. tired of it, ya’ know.

How long did it take you to pare all the claptrap coming from That One’s administration into a more manageable but still unedifying PowerPoint presentation for mass consumption by the Obamacrat herd?

BB…Snooze. No one reads that crap from trolls, but I guess you have to do your job.

Another drive-by sniper troll on the loose.

You have no game if all you got is personal attacks. You add very little to the discussion on this website.

You have no game if all you got is personal attacks. You add very little to the discussion on this website.

You have little room to comment on that subject as your posts are nothing more than regurgitations of talking points that can be found at any website devoted to the adoration of the False Messiah. We have seen that sort of dreck, ad nauseum, and don’t need to read it again to know it is crap.