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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13520/clusterfk-to-the-poor-house-economic-recovery-plan/#comment-1136286</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You have no game if all you got is personal attacks. You add very little to the discussion on this website.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You have little room to comment on that subject as your posts are nothing more than regurgitations of talking points that can be found at any website devoted to the adoration of the False Messiah. We have seen that sort of dreck, ad nauseum, and don&#039;t need to read it again to know it is crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You have no game if all you got is personal attacks. You add very little to the discussion on this website.</p></blockquote>
<p>You have little room to comment on that subject as your posts are nothing more than regurgitations of talking points that can be found at any website devoted to the adoration of the False Messiah. We have seen that sort of dreck, ad nauseum, and don&#8217;t need to read it again to know it is crap.</p>
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		<title>By: BB</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13520/clusterfk-to-the-poor-house-economic-recovery-plan/#comment-1136282</link>
		<dc:creator>BB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have no game if all you got is personal attacks. You add very little to the discussion on this website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have no game if all you got is personal attacks. You add very little to the discussion on this website.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13520/clusterfk-to-the-poor-house-economic-recovery-plan/#comment-1136231</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 02:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another drive-by sniper troll on the loose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another drive-by sniper troll on the loose.</p>
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		<title>By: AlexisM</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13520/clusterfk-to-the-poor-house-economic-recovery-plan/#comment-1136225</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexisM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 01:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB...Snooze.  No one reads that crap from trolls, but I guess you have to do your job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB&#8230;Snooze.  No one reads that crap from trolls, but I guess you have to do your job.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13520/clusterfk-to-the-poor-house-economic-recovery-plan/#comment-1136222</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 01:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long did it take you to pare all the claptrap coming from That One&#039;s administration into a more manageable but still unedifying PowerPoint presentation for mass consumption by the Obamacrat herd?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long did it take you to pare all the claptrap coming from That One&#8217;s administration into a more manageable but still unedifying PowerPoint presentation for mass consumption by the Obamacrat herd?</p>
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		<title>By: beebop</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13520/clusterfk-to-the-poor-house-economic-recovery-plan/#comment-1136220</link>
		<dc:creator>beebop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 01:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bring it to a current thread you useless little troll.  Say something other than bad Republicans and good Democrats(sic) .. tired of it, ya&#039; know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring it to a current thread you useless little troll.  Say something other than bad Republicans and good Democrats(sic) .. tired of it, ya&#8217; know.</p>
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		<title>By: BB</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13520/clusterfk-to-the-poor-house-economic-recovery-plan/#comment-1136203</link>
		<dc:creator>BB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 01:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republicans are doing a disservice to this country. They are complaining about less than 2% of the overall stimulus of which most of it is out. 

You can argue about whether the government should be doing a stimulus all you want. But the reality is that every day this country is moving more and more into deflation, which tends to downward spiral and it feeds on itself, and the longer it goes on the longer and harder it is to break-out. Job lay-offs and plant closing leads to more economic decline, which results in more job lay-offs and economic decline. This is the fastest we have moved toward deflation since the great depression.

You can argue about tax cuts, but this bill has more than 40% tax cuts in it. You can argue about only having tax cuts with no spending stimulus, but tax cuts are very inefficient at immediate creating jobs. The whole point of the stimulus package is to get money into the economy fast to create some immediate jobs and to kick-start the economy. The other alternative would be to do nothing. That is a big risk as the country potentially moves toward 10-12% unemployment. Some might also say that we should not spend, but fix the housing problem. Not sure exactly how you would do that and that will not create any immediate jobs, but that is exactly what the TARP and potentially TARP II are potentially for. 

Nobody is trying to scare anyone. The adminstration is just trying to be real, as time is not working on the side of the economy.

The reality is that Obama has been handed a shit sandwich in the first three weeks of office. You can critize him all you want, but at the end of the day he is trying to fix the economic mismanagement of the Republicans. You should be screaming at the Republicans for getting us into this mess.

You can say that Obama created this economy and this deficit, as he was a Senator (as Larry Johnson is trying to do), but if you are a realist about it, the Democrats really did not have much power. The Republicans did not rule in any kind of bipartisan fashion and even in the last two years when the Dems took charge of the House they really had no power, as Bush took out his veto pen every time. 

The problems of this economy were started well before 2007 when the Dems took the house. Everything from irresponsible tax cuts during a time of war, to the war itself, to the housing bubble, which was largely created by the Bush adminstration, to interest rate policy, to a deregulation laisse fair attitude, to record budget deficits all contributed to where we are today. The Republicans simply miss-managed the country and the economy. You can also blame the American public by loading up on all kinds of debt and living beyond our means on other peoples money. The chicken is coming home to roast.

What the Republicans are doing now, all their grandstanding and showboating, is disgusting, a disgrace and unAmerican. They are once again putting politics and party first over what is best for the economy. 

If all the Republicans got is politics then they will once again get what they deserve, another trouncing at the poles. I think some of the Republicans like Spector know this and that is why they are trying to be constructive and not showboating like these idiots Boehner, McConnell and Graham.

Do some educating of yourself, find-out what is really going on before you run-off at the mouth. A good place to start is to look at the actual spending in the original bill. There is a good list line item by line item at this link:

http://appropriations.house.gov/pdf/PressSummary01-15-09.pdf

Most of it is very good spending that will be an investment in this country and help strengthen it. This is far from a bill full of pork. Like I said at the beginning the Republicans are only complaining about two percentage of the entire original $850 bn. Who cares about the 2%?

Obama, I say to you, good luck and godspeed in trying to get something done to fix this economy. God knows you are not going to get any help from the Republicans

And to the rest of you I hope you do not lose your job and then come crying to the government to help you out, to find you a job, pay you unemployment (which is running out) or help you once you lose your medical coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republicans are doing a disservice to this country. They are complaining about less than 2% of the overall stimulus of which most of it is out. </p>
<p>You can argue about whether the government should be doing a stimulus all you want. But the reality is that every day this country is moving more and more into deflation, which tends to downward spiral and it feeds on itself, and the longer it goes on the longer and harder it is to break-out. Job lay-offs and plant closing leads to more economic decline, which results in more job lay-offs and economic decline. This is the fastest we have moved toward deflation since the great depression.</p>
<p>You can argue about tax cuts, but this bill has more than 40% tax cuts in it. You can argue about only having tax cuts with no spending stimulus, but tax cuts are very inefficient at immediate creating jobs. The whole point of the stimulus package is to get money into the economy fast to create some immediate jobs and to kick-start the economy. The other alternative would be to do nothing. That is a big risk as the country potentially moves toward 10-12% unemployment. Some might also say that we should not spend, but fix the housing problem. Not sure exactly how you would do that and that will not create any immediate jobs, but that is exactly what the TARP and potentially TARP II are potentially for. </p>
<p>Nobody is trying to scare anyone. The adminstration is just trying to be real, as time is not working on the side of the economy.</p>
<p>The reality is that Obama has been handed a shit sandwich in the first three weeks of office. You can critize him all you want, but at the end of the day he is trying to fix the economic mismanagement of the Republicans. You should be screaming at the Republicans for getting us into this mess.</p>
<p>You can say that Obama created this economy and this deficit, as he was a Senator (as Larry Johnson is trying to do), but if you are a realist about it, the Democrats really did not have much power. The Republicans did not rule in any kind of bipartisan fashion and even in the last two years when the Dems took charge of the House they really had no power, as Bush took out his veto pen every time. </p>
<p>The problems of this economy were started well before 2007 when the Dems took the house. Everything from irresponsible tax cuts during a time of war, to the war itself, to the housing bubble, which was largely created by the Bush adminstration, to interest rate policy, to a deregulation laisse fair attitude, to record budget deficits all contributed to where we are today. The Republicans simply miss-managed the country and the economy. You can also blame the American public by loading up on all kinds of debt and living beyond our means on other peoples money. The chicken is coming home to roast.</p>
<p>What the Republicans are doing now, all their grandstanding and showboating, is disgusting, a disgrace and unAmerican. They are once again putting politics and party first over what is best for the economy. </p>
<p>If all the Republicans got is politics then they will once again get what they deserve, another trouncing at the poles. I think some of the Republicans like Spector know this and that is why they are trying to be constructive and not showboating like these idiots Boehner, McConnell and Graham.</p>
<p>Do some educating of yourself, find-out what is really going on before you run-off at the mouth. A good place to start is to look at the actual spending in the original bill. There is a good list line item by line item at this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://appropriations.house.gov/pdf/PressSummary01-15-09.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://appropriations.house.gov/pdf/PressSummary01-15-09.pdf</a></p>
<p>Most of it is very good spending that will be an investment in this country and help strengthen it. This is far from a bill full of pork. Like I said at the beginning the Republicans are only complaining about two percentage of the entire original $850 bn. Who cares about the 2%?</p>
<p>Obama, I say to you, good luck and godspeed in trying to get something done to fix this economy. God knows you are not going to get any help from the Republicans</p>
<p>And to the rest of you I hope you do not lose your job and then come crying to the government to help you out, to find you a job, pay you unemployment (which is running out) or help you once you lose your medical coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Katmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katmoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SO true, also if we could get the media clairvoyants to quit trying to push this thru as well, take a breath and read the package before they keep sinking their teeth into anyone in opposition; we are suppose to examine things that cost the taxpayers, their money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO true, also if we could get the media clairvoyants to quit trying to push this thru as well, take a breath and read the package before they keep sinking their teeth into anyone in opposition; we are suppose to examine things that cost the taxpayers, their money.</p>
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		<title>By: AlexisM</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13520/clusterfk-to-the-poor-house-economic-recovery-plan/#comment-1135978</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexisM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this.  I particularly enjoyed Newt&#039;s observations.  And boy do I miss Reagan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this.  I particularly enjoyed Newt&#8217;s observations.  And boy do I miss Reagan.</p>
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		<title>By: sarainitaly</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13520/clusterfk-to-the-poor-house-economic-recovery-plan/#comment-1135977</link>
		<dc:creator>sarainitaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH. ahaha sorry. a lot of people do hate Stewart, so i didn&#039;t get the snark. 

I still like him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH. ahaha sorry. a lot of people do hate Stewart, so i didn&#8217;t get the snark. </p>
<p>I still like him.</p>
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		<title>By: Boxer Mum 06</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13520/clusterfk-to-the-poor-house-economic-recovery-plan/#comment-1135976</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxer Mum 06</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this. I sent an e-mail to Sen. Specter imploring him to not support this stimulus bill. 

I also sent an e-mail to Sen. Graham thanking him for speaking up and standing up those that do not support this stimulus spending bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this. I sent an e-mail to Sen. Specter imploring him to not support this stimulus bill. </p>
<p>I also sent an e-mail to Sen. Graham thanking him for speaking up and standing up those that do not support this stimulus spending bill.</p>
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		<title>By: sarainitaly</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13520/clusterfk-to-the-poor-house-economic-recovery-plan/#comment-1135974</link>
		<dc:creator>sarainitaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i completely agree there was a media drumbeat for the war. And I have defended Hillary&#039;s vote on the resolution many times, for those very reasons. 

My comment above was the decisions for the Dems to continue funding the war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i completely agree there was a media drumbeat for the war. And I have defended Hillary&#8217;s vote on the resolution many times, for those very reasons. </p>
<p>My comment above was the decisions for the Dems to continue funding the war.</p>
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		<title>By: CarlyinNJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarlyinNJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PEBO is in over his head and it is showing. 
He may be able to bully approval of HIS Stimulus Package as he bullied his nomination (to run for POTUS) by the Democrat Party; but that doesn&#039;t mean the Proposals will work.

IMHO, the Stimulus Package is too unfocused and too broad to do what is proposed.

A Plan that first targets the housing meltdown (stops Foreclousres) and reinvigerates the housing sector; Second creates jobs (quickly); and, Third gets the Banks lending money to citizens (just regular folks), the small business sector and big companies (like the auto-industry, et al) would have a chance at ending the Recession (more quickly). 

This more simplified approach would be a much better solution then the Clusterf**k that is now on the table for consideration. Any Proposals not easily explained using these three concepts should be excluded (for now). Later, some of the other &quot;good&quot; ideas proposed by PEBO and Company could be considered for implementation. 

What PEBO&#039;s Plan looks like to me is a &quot;community organizers&quot; Trillion Dollar Wish List, i.e. something for everybody. PEBO&#039;s unfocused approach dooms to failure this (NON) Stimulus Package.

The Senate needs to refuse to be bullied by scare tactics, vote down the PEBO Plan and work together to spend a Trillion Dollars on a Stimulus Plan that WILL work!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PEBO is in over his head and it is showing.<br />
He may be able to bully approval of HIS Stimulus Package as he bullied his nomination (to run for POTUS) by the Democrat Party; but that doesn&#8217;t mean the Proposals will work.</p>
<p>IMHO, the Stimulus Package is too unfocused and too broad to do what is proposed.</p>
<p>A Plan that first targets the housing meltdown (stops Foreclousres) and reinvigerates the housing sector; Second creates jobs (quickly); and, Third gets the Banks lending money to citizens (just regular folks), the small business sector and big companies (like the auto-industry, et al) would have a chance at ending the Recession (more quickly). </p>
<p>This more simplified approach would be a much better solution then the Clusterf**k that is now on the table for consideration. Any Proposals not easily explained using these three concepts should be excluded (for now). Later, some of the other &#8220;good&#8221; ideas proposed by PEBO and Company could be considered for implementation. </p>
<p>What PEBO&#8217;s Plan looks like to me is a &#8220;community organizers&#8221; Trillion Dollar Wish List, i.e. something for everybody. PEBO&#8217;s unfocused approach dooms to failure this (NON) Stimulus Package.</p>
<p>The Senate needs to refuse to be bullied by scare tactics, vote down the PEBO Plan and work together to spend a Trillion Dollars on a Stimulus Plan that WILL work!!</p>
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		<title>By: KintheNorthwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>KintheNorthwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nah its just the same ole fear mongerling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nah its just the same ole fear mongerling.</p>
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		<title>By: beebop</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13520/clusterfk-to-the-poor-house-economic-recovery-plan/#comment-1135968</link>
		<dc:creator>beebop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen and right on ..</description>
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