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		<title>By: Rob Gard</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114597</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Gard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two sides to most issues, and while the Israelis can be legitimately criticised for some actions, Hamas and Islamic Jihad are not exactly totally innocent victims here.  To equate the crimes of the German S/S committed against the involuntary occupants of the Warsaw ghetto is a bit of a stretch. And all those German S/S troops were constrained to liquidate the entire (involuntary) population of the Warsaw ghetto because the involuntary occupants of the ghetto were, in violation of the Geneva accords, firing hundreds of rockets from the the midst of civilian populations in the ghetto at German troops, right ?  And the Germans had been providing food, medicine and fuel to the ghetto inhabitants, right ?  And the Germans were treating ghetto inhabitants with state of the art medical care in German hospitals, right ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two sides to most issues, and while the Israelis can be legitimately criticised for some actions, Hamas and Islamic Jihad are not exactly totally innocent victims here.  To equate the crimes of the German S/S committed against the involuntary occupants of the Warsaw ghetto is a bit of a stretch. And all those German S/S troops were constrained to liquidate the entire (involuntary) population of the Warsaw ghetto because the involuntary occupants of the ghetto were, in violation of the Geneva accords, firing hundreds of rockets from the the midst of civilian populations in the ghetto at German troops, right ?  And the Germans had been providing food, medicine and fuel to the ghetto inhabitants, right ?  And the Germans were treating ghetto inhabitants with state of the art medical care in German hospitals, right ?</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114118</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with him! Edwards has been really great. Wonder what he&#039;ll do after the campaign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with him! Edwards has been really great. Wonder what he&#8217;ll do after the campaign?</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114105</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G Hazeltine posted a disturbing link about what you point out spreading to the securities and bond markets. I was left thinking how investments are rated according to risk and how the little guy in the near future will have no where to go when risk is equalized across all investment instruments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G Hazeltine posted a disturbing link about what you point out spreading to the securities and bond markets. I was left thinking how investments are rated according to risk and how the little guy in the near future will have no where to go when risk is equalized across all investment instruments.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114099</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unique except for the gypsies, gays, mentally challenged, physically disabled, Polish catholics and christians, afro-germans, and Jehovas witnesses ( a total of about 6 million out of the 11 million who died in the planned exterminations).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unique except for the gypsies, gays, mentally challenged, physically disabled, Polish catholics and christians, afro-germans, and Jehovas witnesses ( a total of about 6 million out of the 11 million who died in the planned exterminations).</p>
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		<title>By: shirin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114086</link>
		<dc:creator>shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have commented on that at various times over the years, and been skewered for it by Jewish interlocutors who insist that the Jewish experience remain unique in its horror. And the analogy has become increasingly apt year by year by year until now it is almost a perfect parallel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have commented on that at various times over the years, and been skewered for it by Jewish interlocutors who insist that the Jewish experience remain unique in its horror. And the analogy has become increasingly apt year by year by year until now it is almost a perfect parallel.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114084</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t anyone find it ironic that the Warsaw Ghetto model has been refurbished and is now in use in Palestine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t anyone find it ironic that the Warsaw Ghetto model has been refurbished and is now in use in Palestine?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114076</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s only concern heading into war wasn&#039;t about going, it was about what was done when there. &lt;strong&gt;&quot;Smart war,&quot; as opposed to dumb war, or in McCain&#039;s case 5th from the last in his class war... &lt;/strong&gt;something like that.

That&#039;s a catch 22, &lt;em&gt;he can always claim he would have fought it differently or better.&lt;/em&gt; Channeling John Kerry on that topic as well, got him on the podium for the best speech opportunity of the &#039;04 convention. 

If we&lt;strong&gt; put Obama in on right wing policy clothed in left wing rhetoric, it will drive voters back to the GOP. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;If the policies fail they&#039;ll claim it was the fault of Obama&lt;/em&gt;, not the platform. If they even reach a normative level it would call for further &quot;reform&quot; that retains us in robber baron levels of inequity and unregulated graft. If they fail abysmally it will pointed the way of Democrats in charge. Every pick faces this challenge, but his is the one most likely to have serious burnback on the consequences of how he framed the run for office.

Our market is over valued. Bottom line estimates of 20%, I say it&#039;s much more, spread out over a series of items, enough so to scare Buffet out of many market sectors in 2005. The money from inflated value is then sent into investments for this market, compounding shortcomings in the future, and weighted abroad in securities bundles, which is one reason world markets are consistently plummeting right now. The countries also buy into our debt, so when things bad here they&#039;ll get bad there as well.
 

It used to be that you could hedge currencies and ride out bad time with sell offs in a sector or exchange by using a separate strong area&#039;s gains to buy up when things cross a certain threshold. The boom years had this effect. Our Dow and NASDAQ could both gain, or just one, almost every day, provided the SPR was maintained to help fuel a domestic boom or counter minor valleys on the ride to the top.

Then it became more of an item that as America&#039;s stocks declined the multinationals gained elsewhere, the EU had a currency to buy in with, and China had volume to but with from the low end hedged currency.

We&#039;re in no man&#039;s land, and enough shabby value was put into each slice of pie that market drag will occur to levels not anticipated. Only our currency value and several key investment yields may soon flip, which could be catastrophic because no normative correction measures could be used since we&#039;ve pushed back with uncommonly low interest rates and high debt levels and there&#039;s inadequate incoming revenue stream to counter.

Obama&#039;s operating under the generous assumption of policy and rhetoric comparisons that do not match the numbers. That leaves most of us with no room but to assume he&#039;s in favor of how the war was fought. He rarely spoke against items of policy and his votes for spending matched. Had he wanted to be consistent he could have voted &#039;present&#039; for that item, he&#039;s far more inconsistent than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s only concern heading into war wasn&#8217;t about going, it was about what was done when there. <strong>&#8220;Smart war,&#8221; as opposed to dumb war, or in McCain&#8217;s case 5th from the last in his class war&#8230; </strong>something like that.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a catch 22, <em>he can always claim he would have fought it differently or better.</em> Channeling John Kerry on that topic as well, got him on the podium for the best speech opportunity of the &#8217;04 convention. </p>
<p>If we<strong> put Obama in on right wing policy clothed in left wing rhetoric, it will drive voters back to the GOP. </strong><em>If the policies fail they&#8217;ll claim it was the fault of Obama</em>, not the platform. If they even reach a normative level it would call for further &#8220;reform&#8221; that retains us in robber baron levels of inequity and unregulated graft. If they fail abysmally it will pointed the way of Democrats in charge. Every pick faces this challenge, but his is the one most likely to have serious burnback on the consequences of how he framed the run for office.</p>
<p>Our market is over valued. Bottom line estimates of 20%, I say it&#8217;s much more, spread out over a series of items, enough so to scare Buffet out of many market sectors in 2005. The money from inflated value is then sent into investments for this market, compounding shortcomings in the future, and weighted abroad in securities bundles, which is one reason world markets are consistently plummeting right now. The countries also buy into our debt, so when things bad here they&#8217;ll get bad there as well.</p>
<p>It used to be that you could hedge currencies and ride out bad time with sell offs in a sector or exchange by using a separate strong area&#8217;s gains to buy up when things cross a certain threshold. The boom years had this effect. Our Dow and NASDAQ could both gain, or just one, almost every day, provided the SPR was maintained to help fuel a domestic boom or counter minor valleys on the ride to the top.</p>
<p>Then it became more of an item that as America&#8217;s stocks declined the multinationals gained elsewhere, the EU had a currency to buy in with, and China had volume to but with from the low end hedged currency.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re in no man&#8217;s land, and enough shabby value was put into each slice of pie that market drag will occur to levels not anticipated. Only our currency value and several key investment yields may soon flip, which could be catastrophic because no normative correction measures could be used since we&#8217;ve pushed back with uncommonly low interest rates and high debt levels and there&#8217;s inadequate incoming revenue stream to counter.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s operating under the generous assumption of policy and rhetoric comparisons that do not match the numbers. That leaves most of us with no room but to assume he&#8217;s in favor of how the war was fought. He rarely spoke against items of policy and his votes for spending matched. Had he wanted to be consistent he could have voted &#8216;present&#8217; for that item, he&#8217;s far more inconsistent than that.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114075</link>
		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great news via TomP, an excellent diarist at MyDD:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/1/21/21462/3374&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MLK III to Edwards: Keep Fighting!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great news via TomP, an excellent diarist at MyDD:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/1/21/21462/3374" rel="nofollow">MLK III to Edwards: Keep Fighting!</a></p>
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		<title>By: shirin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114058</link>
		<dc:creator>shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? Are they doing any &quot;social witness&quot; (whatever that is) for the children in Ghaza right now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? Are they doing any &#8220;social witness&#8221; (whatever that is) for the children in Ghaza right now?</p>
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		<title>By: shirin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114055</link>
		<dc:creator>shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, shoot! I&#039;m probably on all kinds of lists as it is! What&#039;s one more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, shoot! I&#8217;m probably on all kinds of lists as it is! What&#8217;s one more?</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114042</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Obama. He can dish it out but he can&#039;t it when trading barbs...He should not have brought up Bill Clinton. He said &quot;I worked for 5 hours&quot; on a &quot;joint project&quot; ? So he knew folks where out in the cold? Why is Obama making distinctions that Hillary = girl Obama = black, Edwards = white? WTF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Obama. He can dish it out but he can&#8217;t it when trading barbs&#8230;He should not have brought up Bill Clinton. He said &#8220;I worked for 5 hours&#8221; on a &#8220;joint project&#8221; ? So he knew folks where out in the cold? Why is Obama making distinctions that Hillary = girl Obama = black, Edwards = white? WTF?</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114035</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Of course, I COULD be really “naughty” and suggest donating the money to the resistance.&lt;/em&gt;

And get your self on a list you might not care to be on? LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Of course, I COULD be really “naughty” and suggest donating the money to the resistance.</em></p>
<p>And get your self on a list you might not care to be on? LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114028</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post a comment if one of them says something interesting, OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post a comment if one of them says something interesting, OK?</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114025</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Donate the money&quot; covers a wide range of options. But be careful, Shirin, administration spies are all over the place!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Donate the money&#8221; covers a wide range of options. But be careful, Shirin, administration spies are all over the place!</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1373/martin-luther-king-jr-on-war/#comment-114023</link>
		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leslie, thanks for the heads up. Yes, I&#039;m watching those 3 lawyers go at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leslie, thanks for the heads up. Yes, I&#8217;m watching those 3 lawyers go at it.</p>
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