believe it or not Hillary has done a lot for children’s welfare. I didn;t like this at the time….but do you want GOP or faker like Obama?

we are not being realistic. we’re on the floor and need a tough realistic who can work through this.

Obama will be devoured, and he’s not honest. read my posts on this blog about Chicag/Obama.

Karl Rove will be Headwaiter.

he’s involved in messy deals made in low income housing deals and his benefactor, donor, and client has been indicted by Patrick Fitzgerald for fraud,corruption, and kickbacks…Tony Rezko.

Rezko was one of Obama’s largest contributors, and used govt subsidized low income housing to promote his scams which were to allow them to rot and put them in foreclosure, thousands of apts he was to rehab are gone. Obama’s law firm handled deal and permits issued from Obama’s district in Ilinois senate.

you can access all of this by going to Chicago Sun Times where a complete Obama dossier exists, complete with evasions and retractions.
go to http://www.suntimes.com see- Obama Archives

Obama’s community work was slight but it blended into this activity. Rezko had sweetheart real estate scheme with Obama for Obama personal property as Rita Rezko sold a backyard lot for $300.00o less than she paid for it to Obama.

He has voted liberal, but given $4200 for Joe Lieberman’s re-election in Conn, and many of his votes are horribly conservative. See them at WashingtonPost online in their politics-voting records of all of congress. surprises. Lieberman gave him budget[unrevealed], and made him Chairman of Foreign Policy Subcommitte on Europe. Never convened a meeting, and did nothing, Waiting to haord the bucks ’till he’s elected?

Mr. Vision is far less liberal than Edwards or Clinton Oh yes, it’s about change and hope.

get real. If we could only be smart enough we’d have an effective president for a change.

Rezko has given him sweetheart personal real estate deal,& kickback scheme and over $200,00 in contributions past 15 years.

Read all about Mr. Pure in Chicag Sun-Times which has extensive stories on this. Rezko has just been indicted by Patrick Fitgerals [that one...Libby] for corruption,fraud, corrupyion. He goes to trial 2/24/. Obama’s law firm handled Rezko’s subsidized property that was in disrepair, notg heated, and all foreclosed. Forclosures paid by taxpayers.

There is much, much more. Go to http://www.suntimes.com
writer Tim Kovack, and others Obama archives

any candidate can make nice after an election … dont forsake your base during an election. if your a frigging democrat … quack like one and waddle like one … hey.

i have to wonder if obama is a progressive at all. his health plan which does not include all americans appears to me to stuck in the old mind set that health care is a privelege and not a right. the edwards and clinton plan at least insist upon universal health coverage. i could give more examples of why i’m unconvinced about obama’s progressive pedigree … but i shall refrain for now.

NOT ONCE did he say that there’s nothing wrong with being Muslim.

I.e., as opposed to people who say “I’m not gay, but it’s alright to be gay,” he left the distinct impression that it’d be not so good if he were Muslim.

UPDATE: Adding to this post’s passage on Clinton citing her work with Marian Wright Edelman as supposed proof of her commitment to ending poverty, note this New York Times article from 8/1/96:

“President Clinton’s decision to sign a Republican welfare bill brought qualified praise from political opponents, muted criticism from some close political allies and expressions of deep dismay from an array of social welfare organizations, religious groups and advocates for the poor. The most scathing response came from Marian Wright Edelman, president of the Children’s Defense Fund and a friend of Mr. Clinton and his wife, Hillary, who worked as chairwoman for the organization from 1986 to 1992. The legislation will ‘hurt and impoverish millions of children and abolish the 61-year-old national safety net for children’ and ‘makes a mockery of his pledge not to hurt children,’ Ms. Edelman said in a statement. ‘It will leave a moral blot on his Presidency and on our nation that will never be forgotten,’ she said.”

But quiet down, Jon and Jane Q. Public – don’t pay attention to that. Pay attention to Clinton telling you she cares about poor people.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/22/125712/692/244/441136

http://www.correntewire.com/bush_latte_obamas_christianist_brochure_another_fucking_dogwhistle_to_the_right_wing

This stuff makes me sick. I wish candidates would just STFU about their religion.