Comments on: Ruin your health with the Obama stimulus plan. Better yet, just die. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/ Thu, 24 May 2012 17:29:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Did you know the "BILL" will cut back health care for the oldest and sickest? | Healthy Living each day http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1154665 Did you know the "BILL" will cut back health care for the oldest and sickest? | Healthy Living each day Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:12:57 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1154665 [...] Did you know the "BILL" will cut back health care for the oldest and sickest? http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02… [...] [...] Did you know the "BILL" will cut back health care for the oldest and sickest? http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02… [...]

]]> By: Tudy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1140075 Tudy Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:08:24 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1140075 Crap like this is what is going to be Obama's downfall. I fear to say he will probably end up like JFK. Crap like this is what is going to be Obama’s downfall. I fear to say he will probably end up like JFK.

]]> By: Stimulus Package http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1139909 Stimulus Package Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:28:30 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1139909 <strong>Stimulus Package...</strong> Washington insider leaks what tax payers will receive from Obama\'s stimulus package!... Stimulus Package…

Washington insider leaks what tax payers will receive from Obama\’s stimulus package!…

]]> By: mary http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1139636 mary Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:40:14 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1139636 PLEASE READ IN WASHINGTON POST KATHLEEN PARKER'S EXCELLENT POST: "OBAMA IN THE SHALLOWS"---it tells it like it is about BoBo's IMMATURITY and LACK OF JUDGMENT to be Prez! Now isn't this what the folks @ No Quarter have been saying for over a year, eh?!!! PLEASE READ IN WASHINGTON POST KATHLEEN PARKER’S EXCELLENT POST:

“OBAMA IN THE SHALLOWS”—it tells it like it is about BoBo’s IMMATURITY and LACK OF JUDGMENT to be Prez! Now isn’t this what the folks @ No Quarter have been saying for over a year, eh?!!!

]]> By: Entwife http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1139449 Entwife Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:02:55 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1139449 My concern about the Obosi Porkulus Spending Bill is extreme, but the part that has me in extremis is the National Health Care provision. It is all-encompassing and all-controlling, giving government the authority to determine whether, by financial analysis, a person meets a cost-benefit ratio for receiving care! So, they can cull the newborn part of the population by unfettered access to abortion, even in a foreign land, and cull the aging part of the population by subjecting them to a means test to receive care. This is inhuman and un-American in every way! But that is not even my most immediate horror. You are probably aware by now that about a year ago Tom Dashle wrote a book, I suppose in anticipation of being placed as HHS by whichever Democrat got elected. Well, he disgraced himself and had to bow out, thank God for America. However, in his book he stated he would advise the next president to put national health care inside a budget bill so that it could be passed without discussion and basically outside the knowledge of the American citizen. This is exactly what has happened! How could representatives of the people betray them in such a heavy-handed fashion? Nearly all of Congress is duplicitous. The wording of the provision is completely alarming, including "every person in the United States," not even every CITIZEN of the United States. And if it doesn't say citizen, it doesn't mean citizen. Any person, legal or illegal, who parks his butt in this country is entitled to these benefits! We can't pay for this! We can't pay for any of it! What even happened to Obama's promise that those with insurance could keep it???? Communists are putting a stranglehold on America from within the Congress and the federal government. HELP US! STAND UP! Pressure the turncoat RINOs who voted for the Senate bill (I've written all of them myself) and every blue-dog and moderate Democrat who will listen! National Health Care needs to be taken up as a separate bill, not slipped in as a pig in a poke! And it is a pig. My concern about the Obosi Porkulus Spending Bill is extreme, but the part that has me in extremis is the National Health Care provision. It is all-encompassing and all-controlling, giving government the authority to determine whether, by financial analysis, a person meets a cost-benefit ratio for receiving care! So, they can cull the newborn part of the population by unfettered access to abortion, even in a foreign land, and cull the aging part of the population by subjecting them to a means test to receive care. This is inhuman and un-American in every way! But that is not even my most immediate horror.

You are probably aware by now that about a year ago Tom Dashle wrote a book, I suppose in anticipation of being placed as HHS by whichever Democrat got elected. Well, he disgraced himself and had to bow out, thank God for America. However, in his book he stated he would advise the next president to put national health care inside a budget bill so that it could be passed without discussion and basically outside the knowledge of the American citizen. This is exactly what has happened!

How could representatives of the people betray them in such a heavy-handed fashion? Nearly all of Congress is duplicitous. The wording of the provision is completely alarming, including “every person in the United States,” not even every CITIZEN of the United States. And if it doesn’t say citizen, it doesn’t mean citizen. Any person, legal or illegal, who parks his butt in this country is entitled to these benefits! We can’t pay for this! We can’t pay for any of it! What even happened to Obama’s promise that those with insurance could keep it???? Communists are putting a stranglehold on America from within the Congress and the federal government. HELP US! STAND UP! Pressure the turncoat RINOs who voted for the Senate bill (I’ve written all of them myself) and every blue-dog and moderate Democrat who will listen! National Health Care needs to be taken up as a separate bill, not slipped in as a pig in a poke! And it is a pig.

]]> By: NoBamaNoWay http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1139206 NoBamaNoWay Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:50:44 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1139206 word, beebop. word, beebop.

]]> By: elise http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1139178 elise Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:32:08 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1139178 Strawberry, health care is not a gift from the government. It is something we pay for when we work and recieve a paycheck. To invite the government to make lifestyle choices for citizens is a dangerous road to travel. It is now possible through DNA testing to isolate genes which cause many diseases so will we allow the government to decide who will be allowed to have treatment because it's not cost effective and we are living in a fool's world if we think that can't happen. Automoblie accidents caused by drunk drivers cause almost 15,000 deaths/yr and more die from health problems related to drinking so we have to add alcholics to the list of those who can be passed by for treatment or pay more for insurance. STD can cause long term health problems due to unprotected sex and what about extreme sport accidents which can cause a lifetime of paralysis or brain damage? Strawberry, health care is not a gift from the government. It is something we pay for when we work and recieve a paycheck. To invite the government to make lifestyle choices for citizens is a dangerous road to travel. It is now possible through DNA testing to isolate genes which cause many diseases so will we allow the government to decide who will be allowed to have treatment because it’s not cost effective and we are living in a fool’s world if we think that can’t happen. Automoblie accidents caused by drunk drivers cause almost 15,000 deaths/yr and more die from health problems related to drinking so we have to add alcholics to the list of those who can be passed by for treatment or pay more for insurance. STD can cause long term health problems due to unprotected sex and what about extreme sport accidents which can cause a lifetime of paralysis or brain damage?

]]> By: elise http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1139165 elise Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:43:46 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1139165 Did I miss something? My mother worked all her life and Medicare payments were taken out of every paycheck. When she was sixty five, she bought a supplement policy and five years later, she got cancer. I took care of her and I know she woke up every morning grateful for the day until the day she died. Medicare didn't pay for all the chemotherapy and neither did her supplement. If some anonymous entity in the government had decided her care wasn't cost effective, she would have suffered more and died sooner. She had time to put her things in order and make peace with her impending death and I was grateful for everyday I had with her too. If others make a decision to refuse terminal care or life extending measures, I have no problem with that, but it has to be a choice. Some thirty or forty year old bureaucrat who isn't facing the end of life should not be allowed to make that decision. Did I miss something? My mother worked all her life and Medicare payments were taken out of every paycheck. When she was sixty five, she bought a supplement policy and five years later, she got cancer. I took care of her and I know she woke up every morning grateful for the day until the day she died. Medicare didn’t pay for all the chemotherapy and neither did her supplement. If some anonymous entity in the government had decided her care wasn’t cost effective, she would have suffered more and died sooner. She had time to put her things in order and make peace with her impending death and I was grateful for everyday I had with her too. If others make a decision to refuse terminal care or life extending measures, I have no problem with that, but it has to be a choice. Some thirty or forty year old bureaucrat who isn’t facing the end of life should not be allowed to make that decision.

]]> By: Retired http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1139133 Retired Wed, 11 Feb 2009 04:31:11 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1139133 Now we know: Under Obama, Soylent Green is people. Now we know: Under Obama, Soylent Green is people.

]]> By: Carol http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1139129 Carol Wed, 11 Feb 2009 04:25:51 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1139129 Read This Perfect Day by Ira Levin. It is all there. A utopian global society where people wear their RFID chips which monitor everywhere they go and everyone is killed off at 62. Doesn't this all tie in nicely to Kissinger and Bilderberg's "useless eater" theory? Read This Perfect Day by Ira Levin. It is all there. A utopian global society where people wear their RFID chips which monitor everywhere they go and everyone is killed off at 62.

Doesn’t this all tie in nicely to Kissinger and Bilderberg’s “useless eater” theory?

]]> By: Gianna http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1139108 Gianna Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:48:51 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1139108 75% 0f the people in this country are centrists. Let`s screw all of the wing nuts. We`ve already got the PUMA party.Don`t quit now. It`s a slam dunk! I`m over this BS from both sides. There`s no more Democrat party, it`s the progressive party. We`ve got to get organized. There`s no time left to lose. Let`s stop fighting about petty things. Our country is at stake. Let`s take it back! Hold your nose and convince moderate repubs to join forces with you. Leave the wing nuts to themselves. We are the majority. 75% 0f the people in this country are centrists. Let`s screw all of the wing nuts. We`ve already got the PUMA party.Don`t quit now. It`s a slam dunk! I`m over this BS from both sides. There`s no more Democrat party, it`s the progressive party. We`ve got to get organized. There`s no time left to lose. Let`s stop fighting about petty things. Our country is at stake. Let`s take it back! Hold your nose and convince moderate repubs to join forces with you. Leave the wing nuts to themselves. We are the majority.

]]> By: Mountain girl http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1139095 Mountain girl Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:28:20 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1139095 Katmoon, I realilze we all have our own lives and experiences and I do not tell anyone else how to live their lives. I also know that I do not have any idea how I will react until something actually happens. So, I am horrified by this bill that chooses to select people as more or less worthwhile based on their age. We, the baby boomers, have supported and taken care of those older than us and younger than us, and now that we are reaching an age where we may need to be taken care of, we are being abandoned. I take care of myself. I don't expect anyone to take of me. But, we deserve some respect from all of those who receive the care they receive because of us. Katmoon, I realilze we all have our own lives and experiences and I do not tell anyone else how to live their lives. I also know that I do not have any idea how I will react until something actually happens. So, I am horrified by this bill that chooses to select people as more or less worthwhile based on their age. We, the baby boomers, have supported and taken care of those older than us and younger than us, and now that we are reaching an age where we may need to be taken care of, we are being abandoned. I take care of myself. I don’t expect anyone to take of me. But, we deserve some respect from all of those who receive the care they receive because of us.

]]> By: elise http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1139068 elise Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:28:55 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1139068 The link to a Bloomberg News article was provided by someone yesterday about this part of the spending bill and I have emailed it to everyone I know. What makes me so angry, is the lack of discussion and transparency. Did the authors of this legislation believe the public wouldn't be interested and have a right to know? This impacts everyone directly except those with enough money they don't have to worry about health care. There have been many comparisons between our present situation and Orwell's 1984, but this is more like Soylent Green. For anyone who has not seen this old movie, it is about a time in the future when the earth is so crowded and food so scarce, when an individual reaches a certain age they are murdered and their flesh turned into food for the younger population. The link to a Bloomberg News article was provided by someone yesterday about this part of the spending bill and I have emailed it to everyone I know. What makes me so angry, is the lack of discussion and transparency. Did the authors of this legislation believe the public wouldn’t be interested and have a right to know? This impacts everyone directly except those with enough money they don’t have to worry about health care. There have been many comparisons between our present situation and Orwell’s 1984, but this is more like Soylent Green. For anyone who has not seen this old movie, it is about a time in the future when the earth is so crowded and food so scarce, when an individual reaches a certain age they are murdered and their flesh turned into food for the younger population.

]]> By: JustMe http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1139065 JustMe Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:25:49 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1139065 Well there is always that and animals are well with one shot, noticed that they always seem to get better quicker than any Dr visit. Takes a week for tablets to get in the system. One shot and you will be wagging like a good un~~ Well there is always that and animals are well with one shot, noticed that they always seem to get better quicker than any Dr visit.
Takes a week for tablets to get in the system.

One shot and you will be wagging like a good un~~

]]> By: beebop http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/13928/ruin-your-health-with-the-obama-stimulus-plan-better-yet-justdie/#comment-1139060 beebop Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:13:20 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=13928#comment-1139060 He didn't go to see his mother near the end and didn't even attend his grand mother's funeral. The man is a monster. He didn’t go to see his mother near the end and didn’t even attend his grand mother’s funeral. The man is a monster.

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