I also don’t want Obama OR Hillary to get the nomination because they both plan to increase the size of the military, which would not be necessary if they intended to withdraw completely from Iraq, and refrain from forcing the United States’ will on other countries by means of military violence.

2. Have you taken a good, careful, thorough look at her “withdrawal” plan? It is little more than continued occupation by other means. (And Obama’s is almost identical.)

Rezko contribution 3x Obama’s claim . . .?
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/432197,CST-NWS-obama18.article

Obama referred to in the Rezko Fed inditment?
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/749138,obama20web.article

and that’s just in the Chicago Sun Times . . . easy pickings.

My problem with Bill Clinton is solely that he was Republican-lite, not a progressive, but highly pro-corporate.

What our nation sorely needs now is a new FDR and a ReNewDeal. 27 years of governance by right wing ideology has caused the disaster wrought upon America and the world. The NewDeal reforms saved capitalism and America. Now, we are faced with socialism for the wealthy and capitalism for the masses. America must return to our values, or in a generation, there will be a new flood of illegal immigration – into Canada.

The Republicans have turned the U.S. into a declining power …. both economically and militarily. And we have been morally dwarfed. Where is our new FDR?

You missed my point . . . BO has NOT articulated ANY solution – “Change” is something a homeless person wants . . . I want some solid actionable plans and a record of accomplishments . . . I was referring to how BO whines about the Clintons (ignoring their Civil Rights track record of 35 years) when we all know that the Right is ready with such Rovan tricks that he will be crying all the way back to Chi-Town. Look how a real war hero was burned by them – both Kerry AND McCain!
Edwards actually has proposed better ideas but can’t seem to get past the “Obama Media Glo” – and please let’s not get too enamored with the Jackson numbers – it was a different time with turnout at about 50,000 in 1988 vs 530,322 this time – and Jesse had a much lower “approval” rating, branded as an “agitator” from the Left – hardly the Moderate’s Choice.

Is that an admonition? or are you really saying it won’t be as bad or worse than it has been the past or more recently as Brad Friedman ,Bev Harris, Susan Pynchon and many others have attempt to document in NH and SC?

All due respect to you, I do respect Mr Johnson’s views and service ;but WTF do I care if Larry Johnson is happy or not?

The Dems are not the Republican’ts – there is no “Eleventh Commandment” during the primaries (For those not in the know, the Republican “11th” is thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican.).

IMO, very little of this Dem bickering/bitch-slapping will matter when the nominees are selected NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE. The Dems have all the issues, most of the important governorships (no vote-tampering this time, boys and girls), lots more money, and will benefit from the widespread destruction visited upon the Republican’t Party by Dubya and his crew.

It’s still the Dems’ election to lose. I admit, given their history that such a thing is always possible. But this time I think it’s pretty damn unlikely.

One thing I have been watching is which Dem candidate is mindful of “anything you say can and will be used against you” by rethugs in a court of public opinion were the facts don’t matter.