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		<title>By: Buy Propecia</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14129/the-media-are-finally-getting-more-real-on-pbo/#comment-1165555</link>
		<dc:creator>Buy Propecia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 02:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gergen &quot;....And I think that he [BO] is in danger of being overexposed...

Sorry DAVE!!! (Man oh MAN) This is the digital age DAVE! 

The vote for this Guiness Book of World Record Sausage is set for Friday the 13th...DAVE.

BO? Overexposed? HA! Pat can go at this guy for days and he will never be that. 

Great Point SusanUnPc.

&quot;Nobody knows&quot; is the secrecy of the last 8 years and now we can look forward to 4 more years of &quot;nobody knows&quot; but in a very different way. The truth is there very serious people that DO know. BO and his &quot;big tent&quot; sideshow are not among them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gergen &#8220;&#8230;.And I think that he [BO] is in danger of being overexposed&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry DAVE!!! (Man oh MAN) This is the digital age DAVE! </p>
<p>The vote for this Guiness Book of World Record Sausage is set for Friday the 13th&#8230;DAVE.</p>
<p>BO? Overexposed? HA! Pat can go at this guy for days and he will never be that. </p>
<p>Great Point SusanUnPc.</p>
<p>&#8220;Nobody knows&#8221; is the secrecy of the last 8 years and now we can look forward to 4 more years of &#8220;nobody knows&#8221; but in a very different way. The truth is there very serious people that DO know. BO and his &#8220;big tent&#8221; sideshow are not among them.</p>
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		<title>By: donna darko</title>
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		<dc:creator>donna darko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paid troll,

Charm and polls don&#039;t preclude the impending economic meltdown. 

An &lt;a href=&quot;http://spacecrab.livejournal.com/23713.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obot&lt;/a&gt; wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I voted for him. He&#039;s still charming, well-educated, and eloquent -- but, Obama&#039;s &quot;compromise/reach out across the aisle&quot; economic advisors are just producing economic stupidity (minus some of the Republican plutocratic meanness and outright theft).

If Obama doesn&#039;t hire some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3015&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;smart people&lt;/a&gt; to help him soon, all his charm may not save us from an impending economic meltdown.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paid troll,</p>
<p>Charm and polls don&#8217;t preclude the impending economic meltdown. </p>
<p>An <a href="http://spacecrab.livejournal.com/23713.html" rel="nofollow">Obot</a> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I voted for him. He&#8217;s still charming, well-educated, and eloquent &#8212; but, Obama&#8217;s &#8220;compromise/reach out across the aisle&#8221; economic advisors are just producing economic stupidity (minus some of the Republican plutocratic meanness and outright theft).</p>
<p>If Obama doesn&#8217;t hire some <a href="http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3015" rel="nofollow">smart people</a> to help him soon, all his charm may not save us from an impending economic meltdown.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: donna darko</title>
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		<dc:creator>donna darko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The failure is his lack of seriousness from the get go. His failure to listen to the people I mentionned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The failure is his lack of seriousness from the get go. His failure to listen to the people I mentionned.</p>
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		<title>By: donna darko</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14129/the-media-are-finally-getting-more-real-on-pbo/#comment-1140507</link>
		<dc:creator>donna darko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course it&#039;s going to fail and it&#039;s because Obama didn&#039;t listen to the right people such as Krugman or the academics who wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3015&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Restoring Financial Stability: How to Repair a Failed System&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s too heavy on tax cuts and too light on helping industries create jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it&#8217;s going to fail and it&#8217;s because Obama didn&#8217;t listen to the right people such as Krugman or the academics who wrote <a href="http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3015" rel="nofollow"><br />
Restoring Financial Stability: How to Repair a Failed System</a>. It&#8217;s too heavy on tax cuts and too light on helping industries create jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: FLDemFem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FLDemFem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, they are the same people who foisted the last criminal on us, George Bush. So they finally woke up and smelled the coffee all of a sudden? I don&#039;t think so. If Obummer had been Republican, they would have been just as enamored of him as the rest of the MSM. They are a partisan organization, unashamedly so apparently. And if they have seen the light, why aren&#039;t they calling for Bush to be indicted for &lt;em&gt;his&lt;/em&gt; crimes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, they are the same people who foisted the last criminal on us, George Bush. So they finally woke up and smelled the coffee all of a sudden? I don&#8217;t think so. If Obummer had been Republican, they would have been just as enamored of him as the rest of the MSM. They are a partisan organization, unashamedly so apparently. And if they have seen the light, why aren&#8217;t they calling for Bush to be indicted for <em>his</em> crimes?</p>
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		<title>By: FLDemFem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FLDemFem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At $40,000 an hour for fuel. And this weekend he and Michelle are flying to Chicago for the weekend, and a Valentine&#039;s Day date night out. Taking the girls along too. So, the date night/weekend is going to cost the taxpayers upwards of $250,000 after you toss in security measures. $140,000 for gas round trip to Chicago, and the other $110,000 for miscellaneous, aka security, limos, etc. He is spending the equivalent of half his yearly salary, of our money, on a fun weekend with the family. So much for sacrificing anything. Add in the fact that he keeps the Oval Office so warm people can&#039;t wear jackets int here without passing out from the heat, and you have a president that tells Americans to sacrifice while living conspicuously high on the hog at their expense. The man is a disgusting hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At $40,000 an hour for fuel. And this weekend he and Michelle are flying to Chicago for the weekend, and a Valentine&#8217;s Day date night out. Taking the girls along too. So, the date night/weekend is going to cost the taxpayers upwards of $250,000 after you toss in security measures. $140,000 for gas round trip to Chicago, and the other $110,000 for miscellaneous, aka security, limos, etc. He is spending the equivalent of half his yearly salary, of our money, on a fun weekend with the family. So much for sacrificing anything. Add in the fact that he keeps the Oval Office so warm people can&#8217;t wear jackets int here without passing out from the heat, and you have a president that tells Americans to sacrifice while living conspicuously high on the hog at their expense. The man is a disgusting hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: The Real HC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14129/the-media-are-finally-getting-more-real-on-pbo/#comment-1140311</link>
		<dc:creator>The Real HC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you keep linking this same thing over and over. Go get some new material please. Then go get a job doing surveys so that you can understand their (non)value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you keep linking this same thing over and over. Go get some new material please. Then go get a job doing surveys so that you can understand their (non)value.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary McGowan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary McGowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;FBI Targeting Major Financial Firms for Fraud&lt;/strong&gt;


February 12, 2009 (LPAC)--The FBI is targeting 38 major firms for fraud &quot;directly related to the current economic crisis,&quot; according to a top FBI official, and ultimately the number could rise into the hundreds. &quot;These are companies, businesses that everybody knows about,&quot; said John Pistole, the FBI&#039;s Deputy Director.

He described the investigations as &quot;large, complex,&quot; and similar to the Enron investigation. On other occasions, federal officials have fingered Lehman Brothers, American International Group, Countrywide Financial, and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as under criminal investigation.

Several criminal cases are underway against firms involved in the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), testified the Special Inspector General for the TARP program, Neil Barofsky, who added that he is working closely with other agencies, the New York State Attorney General, Andrew Cuomo.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, who chaired yesterday&#039;s hearing on corporate fraud, told the witnesses that &quot;I want to see people prosecuted,&quot; adding, &quot;I want to see people who have committed such fraud and the havoc it&#039;s caused to this country -- frankly, I want to see them go to jail.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>FBI Targeting Major Financial Firms for Fraud</strong></p>
<p>February 12, 2009 (LPAC)&#8211;The FBI is targeting 38 major firms for fraud &#8220;directly related to the current economic crisis,&#8221; according to a top FBI official, and ultimately the number could rise into the hundreds. &#8220;These are companies, businesses that everybody knows about,&#8221; said John Pistole, the FBI&#8217;s Deputy Director.</p>
<p>He described the investigations as &#8220;large, complex,&#8221; and similar to the Enron investigation. On other occasions, federal officials have fingered Lehman Brothers, American International Group, Countrywide Financial, and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as under criminal investigation.</p>
<p>Several criminal cases are underway against firms involved in the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), testified the Special Inspector General for the TARP program, Neil Barofsky, who added that he is working closely with other agencies, the New York State Attorney General, Andrew Cuomo.</p>
<p>Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, who chaired yesterday&#8217;s hearing on corporate fraud, told the witnesses that &#8220;I want to see people prosecuted,&#8221; adding, &#8220;I want to see people who have committed such fraud and the havoc it&#8217;s caused to this country &#8212; frankly, I want to see them go to jail.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jaycephus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaycephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And a Fox poll says:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Less than half (45 percent) of Americans think “Barack Obama’s proposed $825 billion dollar economic recovery plan” will help the economy. Twenty-nine percent think the plan will not make a difference, while 18 percent think it will hurt the economy. Democrats (63 percent) are much more likely than independents (43 percent) or Republicans (22 percent) to think the recovery plan will help.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And Rasmussen polls are also worse for Obama&#039;s plan.

There is also a lot of confusion on polling, and answers depend on whether the poll is asking about stimulus in general or Obama&#039;s plan in particular.  Given that a LOT of people think Obama&#039;s plan includes some checks in the mail for them, the numbers have to be a little misleading. Now that we are finding out that the tax rebate is actually a reduction in withholding of $10-$20 per month over two years, the polls will certainly be less favorable next week.  And we&#039;re still hearing new details and having earmarks added at the last second, so check back later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And a Fox poll says:</p>
<blockquote><p>Less than half (45 percent) of Americans think “Barack Obama’s proposed $825 billion dollar economic recovery plan” will help the economy. Twenty-nine percent think the plan will not make a difference, while 18 percent think it will hurt the economy. Democrats (63 percent) are much more likely than independents (43 percent) or Republicans (22 percent) to think the recovery plan will help.</p></blockquote>
<p>And Rasmussen polls are also worse for Obama&#8217;s plan.</p>
<p>There is also a lot of confusion on polling, and answers depend on whether the poll is asking about stimulus in general or Obama&#8217;s plan in particular.  Given that a LOT of people think Obama&#8217;s plan includes some checks in the mail for them, the numbers have to be a little misleading. Now that we are finding out that the tax rebate is actually a reduction in withholding of $10-$20 per month over two years, the polls will certainly be less favorable next week.  And we&#8217;re still hearing new details and having earmarks added at the last second, so check back later.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaycephus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaycephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:snark: But Vegas doesn&#039;t PRODUCE anything!  And what happens in Vegas, STAYS in Vegas, so why do THEY need a high-speed train!

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:snark: But Vegas doesn&#8217;t PRODUCE anything!  And what happens in Vegas, STAYS in Vegas, so why do THEY need a high-speed train!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sfhillary</title>
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		<dc:creator>sfhillary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, exactly, he doesn&#039;t think it&#039;s big enough and he thinks it&#039;s too focused on tax cuts. Whereas you people apparently think it&#039;s too big. You even have cut-and-pastes from Rush Limbaugh&#039;s website (&quot;porkulus&quot;) to prove it. 

I&#039;m trying to read a few threads here but I have yet to see a single coherent criticism of the overall aim of the bill: to pump an enormous amount of cash as quickly as possible into a system that is reeling from lack of liquidity. There are certainly a few hardcore libertarian economists who don&#039;t buy this theory, but I don&#039;t hear that critique here at NQ. I just here &quot;I don&#039;t like Obama, so his bill must suck.&quot; While also approvingly referencing Krugman, et al, who think precisely the opposite: that the bill doesn&#039;t go far enough. 

This site&#039;s criticisms are incoherent, as always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, exactly, he doesn&#8217;t think it&#8217;s big enough and he thinks it&#8217;s too focused on tax cuts. Whereas you people apparently think it&#8217;s too big. You even have cut-and-pastes from Rush Limbaugh&#8217;s website (&#8220;porkulus&#8221;) to prove it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to read a few threads here but I have yet to see a single coherent criticism of the overall aim of the bill: to pump an enormous amount of cash as quickly as possible into a system that is reeling from lack of liquidity. There are certainly a few hardcore libertarian economists who don&#8217;t buy this theory, but I don&#8217;t hear that critique here at NQ. I just here &#8220;I don&#8217;t like Obama, so his bill must suck.&#8221; While also approvingly referencing Krugman, et al, who think precisely the opposite: that the bill doesn&#8217;t go far enough. </p>
<p>This site&#8217;s criticisms are incoherent, as always.</p>
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		<title>By: AlexisM</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlexisM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, my bad oowawa.  You&#039;re right, torches it is.   I bet Walmart has a run on pitchforks and torches soon too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, my bad oowawa.  You&#8217;re right, torches it is.   I bet Walmart has a run on pitchforks and torches soon too!</p>
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		<title>By: AlexisM</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlexisM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sfhillary, we did this on another thread already.  And the troll stuff got my blood boiling so much that I got in trouble for calling you what I think you are.  So I will refrain.  

Why don&#039;t we put it the other way...take every single big piece of spending, all the way to golf carts, furniture for offices, etc. and tell me exactly how that money gets into the taxpayer&#039;s pockets and how it creates jobs.  I have never seen you do that myself.  And I don&#039;t mean talk in your generalities and use the troll talking points you are paid to spew.  I mean take every single big piece of money that is spent and tell us exactly how the money gets into our pockets and creates jobs.  Good luck.  It&#039;s a piece of crap.  Period.

There&#039;s so much about it that&#039;s wrong that I could do this with you all day.  But you come here to provoke people and stir the pot.  I will ignore you unless and until you say something intelligent, which likely won&#039;t happen anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sfhillary, we did this on another thread already.  And the troll stuff got my blood boiling so much that I got in trouble for calling you what I think you are.  So I will refrain.  </p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t we put it the other way&#8230;take every single big piece of spending, all the way to golf carts, furniture for offices, etc. and tell me exactly how that money gets into the taxpayer&#8217;s pockets and how it creates jobs.  I have never seen you do that myself.  And I don&#8217;t mean talk in your generalities and use the troll talking points you are paid to spew.  I mean take every single big piece of money that is spent and tell us exactly how the money gets into our pockets and creates jobs.  Good luck.  It&#8217;s a piece of crap.  Period.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s so much about it that&#8217;s wrong that I could do this with you all day.  But you come here to provoke people and stir the pot.  I will ignore you unless and until you say something intelligent, which likely won&#8217;t happen anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaycephus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaycephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And something like a total of 16-17% gets spent within the next 24 months. Only 3% of it gets spent in the first year. I&#039;m not sure how the tax-rebates fit into the above percentages, but since it works out to $10-$20 dollars in less payroll withholding per month over a 2 year period, I&#039;m not sure it matters.

What kind of complete BRAIN-DONOR do you have to be to think this is going to have a real effect on the recession. It could be OVER in 24 months.

I am sick of Obama myrmydons acting like this is a solution.  It&#039;s just massive deficit spending on our bureaucracy.  How can you claim to be intelligent, call Bush wrong for tax-rebates and massive deficit spending, blame the recession on him, and then tell me that the solution to the recession is to DOUBLE Bush&#039;s deficit spending? AND NOT just any spending. We&#039;re going to give out tax-rebates and build bigger government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And something like a total of 16-17% gets spent within the next 24 months. Only 3% of it gets spent in the first year. I&#8217;m not sure how the tax-rebates fit into the above percentages, but since it works out to $10-$20 dollars in less payroll withholding per month over a 2 year period, I&#8217;m not sure it matters.</p>
<p>What kind of complete BRAIN-DONOR do you have to be to think this is going to have a real effect on the recession. It could be OVER in 24 months.</p>
<p>I am sick of Obama myrmydons acting like this is a solution.  It&#8217;s just massive deficit spending on our bureaucracy.  How can you claim to be intelligent, call Bush wrong for tax-rebates and massive deficit spending, blame the recession on him, and then tell me that the solution to the recession is to DOUBLE Bush&#8217;s deficit spending? AND NOT just any spending. We&#8217;re going to give out tax-rebates and build bigger government.</p>
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