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Rationing Away Bad Medicine

Let’s imagine the following scenario. You are trying to put together a puzzle that has the identity of a killer, but you have no idea what that killer looks like. OK, with enough work you can fit the puzzle together to figure out what the killer looks like. But imagine you didn’t have all the pieces in front of you, they are scattered in locations around the country. Unfortunately, though you know the possible locations where the puzzle pieces may be, you have no idea which of those locations actually contain the pieces you need.

This is what its like for many clinical researchers trying to evaluate the effectiveness of various medical treatments (certain drugs, for example). Scattered throughout the country, in hospitals and doctor’s offices, are patients undergoing various treatments with varying levels of success.

If you are trying to evaluate the effectiveness of an individual treatment, you’d have to go to each and every hospital and doctors office to obtain the information you need. You may spend most of your time at locations where the treatment you are interested in is not being prescribed.

How many people want their doctors to be privy to as much information regarding your condition as possible? How many want doctors and clinical researchers to spend years instead of weeks to learn about potentially life saving or career threatening treatments?

If you are against helping doctors better treat and cure their patients, then you should be against the health care informational technology (HCIT) provisions in the bill. If you want to save lives and help doctors make better, more informed decisions than you should be for the HCIT provisions in the bill.

Seeing some of the criticisms of the HCIT provisions coming from congresspeople and so-called “think tank” people makes me wonder if they are just that ignorant of how doctors do their job or if they are being deliberately disingenuous. Doctors rely on having information on the latest treatment options, they don’t pull it out of their . . . hats. Would anyone trust a doctor who knowingly prescribes treatments that everyone knows won’t work? What about a doctor who knowingly refuses to ignore information that could help save their patients’ lives. The HCIT provisions in the bill will provide doctors with the information they need to help their patients. Period.

One criticism I hear is that HCIT hasn’t been debated and that is merely a partisan issue. Well, that is not true at all. One of the first classes I took in graduate school was a class on medical informatics and can say that this is not a new field at all. For decades, informatics researchers have been trying to perfect the use of computational power in helping doctors make better, more informed decisions. Over those decades, researchers have gotten better and better at it. The benefits of electronic medical records has been so thoroughly debated that it is hardly a partisan issue amongst the more critical thinkers. Even former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich has been talking about this for years, even setting up his own organization. Lest there be some who still question the partisan nature of the HCIT provisions, this comes from a press release by Newt’s organization:

The proposed stimulus package generally addresses these issues in a positive way. Innovative organizations across the country are already driving and delivering evidence-based medicine that delivers better, safer care for patients.

In the Senate proposal, the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Clinical Effectiveness Research (CER), a board which will advise Congress and the President on strategies regarding the infrastructure needs for comparative effectiveness research within the federal government will be established. While this board will help coordinate among the federal agencies, The Center believes the private sector must be represented to ensure an informed and innovative initiative.

With the right balance from the public and private sectors, this body could learn from the best of the private sector and recommend ways for other institutions to ultimately adopt best practices.

While fears are justified that this kind of research could indeed be a slippery slope to ultimately rationing care, that argument is not currently justifiable in the specific language of the bill.

That is from the former Republican partisan House Speaker’s own organization. (My highlight.) Given that, it is hard to justify this being purely partisan motivated and efforts by politicians and pundits (including think tankers) to make it so is dishonest.

Another criticism is that this does not belong in a stimulus bill. Well, if creating jobs is bad, then it shouldn’t be. But if creating jobs is what you think should belong in a stimulus bill, than the HCIT provisions should be in there. As some have pointed out, these provisions could lead to around two hundred thousand jobs. Further, in a couple years time it is possible that many ineffective treatments will be thrown out of the process to make way for stuff that actually works. This puts money in the hands of patients to buy products to help stimulate the economy.

I normally avoid strong statements either way in my posts here, but when even Newt Gingrich’s organization says that some of the loudest criticisms are unjustified, well I feel that it is justifiable for me to also say that the majority of the criticisms on the HCIT provisions are unjustified.

  • tek

    I read that the issue over treatments in the stimulus bill is that a commission will be created that will oversee the treatments doctors prescribe and if the commission thinks some treatment program is too different from others, it will be pulled. I follow alternative medicine. I don’t want the government telling my superior doctor that he can’t treat me with advanced, visionary treatments because the run-of-the-mill doctors aren’t using that treatment plan. If this information is correct, it also seems that inherent in such a commission is the danger that everything except pharmaceutical treatments will be axed because the pharmas are constantly fighting to outlaw natural remedies because they can’t make huge fortunes from them.

  • Helen

    The major flaw is relying on doctors notes. They are selective in what they hear and want to believe, and what fits their original diagnosis. Someone needs to do a study comparing doctors’ records and notes about symptoms and complaints with the patients’ versions and beliefs. I think an earlier study showed that doctors don’t really listen past the first few minutes, form an opinion quickly and get locked into their own biases – and I’m not even including gender bias. These are the people whose data will be the basis for health care reform?

    Also, whoever is in charge of the data can analyze it anyway they want. We know this is happening in the pharmaceutical industry and their control of studies coming out of medical schools. We need an organization that is skeptical of doctors’ information before we can evaluate their practices, and make informed decisions about the delivery of health care.

  • AlexisM

    This is a slippery slope and, IMO, really dangerous. Whether it creates jobs or not is not the issue. The issue will be the health care the truly sick and needy get. We are headed to the world of England and their crappy health care. That’s what this is about. And no one is going to decide what health care I get. If I have to go to another country, so be it. But I’m not going to let a bunch of bureaucratic morons decide if I live or die. Never.

    But, that’s the problem with the people who want socialized health care. They don’t get that they are the ones who will suffer when our health care system is destroyed. Not rich people. Do you think Obama is going to listen to some doctor who tells him he can’t have treatment for lung cancer? Or Pelosi is going to be denied the most supreme, exotic, expensive health care available? Nope. Yet again this is to create a system of the underclass with no free will, choice or equality. And the wealthy will always get the best treatment no matter what. Oh well. Good luck with that.

  • MBC

    There are currently a multitude of resources and databases available to assist healthcare professionals in doing their jobs better and more effectively. I know for a fact that the provisions in the stimulus bill that provide for a patient information database will not simply be to increase the ability of the healthcare community to provide better care. It is the road to gathering health information that will be marketed to insurance companies. From there, it will be used to make coverage determinations. These determinations will be ultimately be made by a government commission.

  • Ferd Berfle

    It is the road to gathering health information that will be marketed to insurance companies. From there, it will be used to make coverage determinations. These determinations will be ultimately be made by a government commission.

    Wonderful, more bureaucrats making decisions about things of which they know very little or nothing. Another top-heavy, do-nothing bureaucracy designed to facilitate rather than regulate.

    This stimulus package looks more and more like a cattle-prod every day. Well, if that’s the case, the herd in need of a good prodding is the one that supports That One and would be the ideal place to start.

  • nohalf

    You are hardly a Hillary supporter if you do not support universal health care. That was one of her key planks.

    America has a population the size of a reasonably large nation uninsured, add to that the under insured it has a nation larger than that of Germany.

    Tell me what is wrong with the UK Health service? Free access to Doctors, ER times of less than 2 hours, maximum non emergency waits of 3 months?

    They spend 1/3 less of their GDP on health and have a longer average lifespan.

  • Peggy Sue

    I certainly agree that disseminating updated information is critical in the health care arena. Doctors should be able to tap treatments and therapies that work best for their patients. I do have some reservations about alternative treatments, whether or not they will still be made available, or more pertinently covered by insurance.

    Acupuncture, for instance, for pallitive care. I have a family member with compression fractions of the spine. Because of her age, health risks and drug allergies, surgery and/or an implanted pump was not without high risk. So, she opted out. But the pain was debilitating. She sought acupuncture on the advice of a friend.

    And it worked, reducing the pain to a tolerable and functioning level.

    I guess, a lot of this is based on trust. Will the governing boards be open to alternative treatments? Will our personal information, transcribed electronically, be used in our behalf or used against us to benefit insurance and/or pharmaceutical companies?

    I wish I trusted the people in charge right now.

    But to be honest? I don’t.

  • nohalf

    The author of the Bloomberg article is an insurance industry stooge who lied about Hillary Clinton and her plans for universal health care and is telling more lies now. The “new” institute already exists and was set up by George Bush.

  • nohalf

    I prefer the idea of a Doctor deciding the best course of treatment and not an insurance company.

  • nohalf

    It adds the technology to what George Bush already put in place. It will be Doctors that decide the treatment and they will be given access to what the drug companies have charged other hospitals.

  • AlexisM

    The CRAP Bill?

    Well, I guess this is where our resources are going:

    Illegal immigrants will now be given legal status within 24 hours of applying for it. No background checks and anyone can have it.

    That legal status is indefinite, which means forever.

    We, the taxpayers, are paying for the illegals to have lawyers for their immigration papers. Yup, we’re paying for their legals fees. Great.

    Gangmembers will be given Amnesty. Great huh?

    We will be giving Mexico money for their schools, health care, etc. as an incentive for people to stay in Mexico. Great, we’re broke but paying another country’s bills.

    Bet you didn’t know this is in the CRAP Bill right? Well I have video from CNN. It’s really screwed up. And this is just the beginning.

    Thanks Pelosi. You’re a pig.

  • cynic

    Japan uses a multi-payer system to provide high quality, universal health care at a per capita cost that is significantly less than that of the United States. They pay less and get more for their money.

  • Chris Martin

    Anyone who thinks that Gringrich’s group would support these measures if it meant that government would decide on treatment is living in an alternate universe. There is no nice way to say that.

    This is about providing doctors with information. Period. Don’t believe me? Follow the link to Gingrich’s site. Just because you repeat “socialized medicine” or rail against the European health care system–which, incidentally, has a long list of better health outcomes across the most important health indicators–doesn’t make an argument better.

  • AlexisM

    Hillary would have had a plan for Universal Health Care. These bozos don’t. Regardless I don’t support it. My ex-Husband is British and lives in England. My best friend and her husband, a nurse and doctor, lived in England. They came home after the horrific health care they witnessed and I know the truth about it. Guess you don’t know that while we are going socialist medicine, England is now going back to privatized medicine. I don’t want it. That’s my right.

  • Tricia Spiegel

    Chris–What about these issues?

    1. Different strokes for different folks–some treatments work on some people and not on others. Won’t this cause problems? That is, some people wuill be denied “ineffective” treatments that ARE effective for them.

    2. Privacy–I assume insurance companies will be able to get at these if they really want to. I know the bill talks a lot abuot privacy, but it is so complicated I don’t quite know what they are going to do.

    3. Scientific misconduct among biomedical investigators (my work beat) occurs far nore often than the public realizes–so I wonder how one really can pinpoint ineffective and effective treatments for sure. In the last NIH grant I worked on, 84% of the 2,500 senior PI respondents knew of at least one incident of misconduct or irresponsible research practice, many of which would impact on the scientific record.

    I am still queasy even though I recognize the benefits of complete health records.

  • MBC

    This plan is less about socialized medicine Chris and more about social engineering.

  • cathnealon

    I have worked in the healthcare field for 20 years before the advent of HMO’S and big busines took over. We have been going downhill since the early nineties when manged care came about. Treatment for all kinds of conditions and diseases were denied because of cost. The government will do the same thing, start denying, denying, denying unless you are wealthy enough to bypass the government doctors. The Medicaid system is so throughly, insidiously mismanaged and corrupt right now that God help us when and if the government expands the system even more. Remember where this gang comes from, Chicago, one of the most adminsitratively mismanged states in the country. Their child mortality rates are very high. I want more access to healthcare for everyone but we have to be smart about it lest we end up so much worse.

  • MBC

    From what I remember about Hillary’s plan it was about opening up the insurance options currently offered to federal employees (darn good insurance) and making it affordable to anyone who did not have insurance through their employer or qualified for Medicaid (you have to be really poor to qualify for most Medicaid’s). For those who could not afford the premiums, they would be subsidized (same as being done now for Medicare Part D). Medicare Part D is working quite well for many, many seniors.

  • Northwest rain

    This article was the most simplistic, shallow and delusional I’ve read on NQ.

    We do not live in an ideal world — in the US we have a monster called “Health Insurance” — and these bastards want the healthy people who statistically won’t cost them very much to “service”.

    The Insurance bastards want a database so that they can kill off anyone who might get sick — or who is sick, or who has a pre existing condition (like being female).

    There will be no doctor patient confidentiality — and the system WILL be hacked — with records accessible ON THE INTERNET — everyone’s records are out there for public viewing (with the right hacker and the $$$ this is possible.)

    IF the US had Universal Health care — and a means of protecting patient confidentiality — but we live in the real world with a MONSTER — called “health insurance” — and millions are uninsured and the numbers are sure to grow as the recession/depression worsens.

    This is the stupidest statement — black and white — either or — dumb.

    If you are against helping doctors better treat and cure their patients, then you should be against the health care informational technology (HCIT) provisions in the bill. If you want to save lives and help doctors make better, more informed decisions than you should be for the HCIT provisions in the bill.

  • JulieDarlingNotJulieOBOT

    I’m with you AlexisM. My family has been in medicine and law for a very long time.

    I have dear friends who are doctors in Canada and Great Britain and they envy US our health care system.

    Only BAD things will come of computerized medical records.

    I don’t want to be part of some forced treatment program – I want PRIVACY!

    Insurance companies (you know the bastards who deny claims after you pay premiums) will only use the info. as an excuse to provide the very worst care imaginable.

    PBO sure as Hell didn’t release his medical records, why should we?!

  • AlexisM

    Great comment Northwest Rain. You are 100% correct and this is just another load of CRAP in the CRAP Bill. I do NOT want my records made public and I feel that is my right. When this stuff starts, I will start going to another country to be treated if something God forbid bad happens. I’m not going to feed this crappy system and this low rent way of social engineering i.e., deciding who is worth keeping alive and who isn’t. So, when we say Heil Obama, we’re really not kidding.

  • AlexisM

    I already suffer here in CA. I pay a fortune for my health insurance because of the drain on CA of the illegals with no money, no insurance and who use the ER as a doctor’s office. I have been to the doctor once for a physical this year and they raised my rates from $700 a month to $1,000 and I have no illnesses whatsoever and have made no claims other than a broken foot a year ago. When I broke my foot, the insurance didn’t even pay much of it in the first place. It’s a mess that I have to pay a fortune and not even get anything in return.

    Nevertheless, this is my choice and I chose my doctor and always will. I’m not going to have my records made public. Ever. And my insurance company sure as hell isn’t going to decide whether I am worth getting the best treatment because of my age. The socialists in this country are destroying it. This will end badly, like the UK and Canada crappy health care. I don’t want it and I’m not using it. Period.

  • JulieDarlingNotJulieOBOT

    Northwest Rain –

    I’d like to second that Motion.

  • cynic

    I found absolutely nothing simplistic, shallow and delusional about the article.

    How do you explain the fact that Newt Gingrich’s organization has conluded the HCIT provisions are a good idea? Presumably they’re not inclined to cut the democrats any slack. They’re surely calling this one exactly as they see it.

  • Seattle Moss

    Alexis,
    Having our health records digitized and online for anyone to see is the biggest risk to our rights as Human beings since the beginning of time.
    Once google has control over the very essence of who we are then laws will be enacted to change who we are to fit a greater social engineering goal.
    Since resources will be limited in the future decisions will be made to deny those with inferior traits from reproducing or even having the ability to have self determination of ones life.

  • AlexisM

    Well they won’t be doing it to me, I can tell you that. I can’t tell you how violated this makes me feel. If God forbid I got AIDS or Cancer, etc…that’s no ones goddamned business. Period. Wait until the gay community gets ahold of this juicy fact. They have fought for these privacy laws forever, as they should.

  • AlexisM

    Newt’s wrong if he believes in this nonsense. The good news about being American is that we don’t have to have our freedoms taken away. Well, they’re trying but they won’t get away with it. So for the wingnuts who whine about FISA? Why is this any different? It’s worse.

  • http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

    Seeing that an OBOT is in favor of this crap — then I absolutely know that my judgment of this being being a gift to the greedy and corrupt Insurance Industry monster is right on target.

    Mrs. Obama worked for the MONSTER — and 0zero got unlimited funding from the insurance industry lobbyists.

    Putting our records on the internet is a violation of our privacy.

    Talk to computer geeks — THEY know what can be done and what evil lurks out there on the internet.

  • AlexisM

    ROFLMAO…Yup, if the Bots think it’s an AOK deal, uh oh for us.

    I forgot that MeChelle had her pay to play job in hospital administration or whatever. And of course B-Crack is in the pocket of the insurance monsters. This is bad, really bad. I’m not even sure it doesn’t violate the Constitution somehow. You know, that document that Obama and Pelosi urinate on all day long?

    I am outraged. Another day, more rights disappearing under the United Socialist Republic of Obama-Pelosi-Emanuel.

  • Chicago Joe

    Chris Martin, obviously you haven’t heard about the clinical trials system that has been in place in our country for decades. Patients from all around the country are placed in studies for various conditions and the data is collected and analyzed and treatments are improved, validated, and when necessary, discarded. This system is working well and we don’t need the bozos in the federal government to commandeer it. More money for clinical trials would help. Developing another bureacratic botch job will not. The provisions written in the stimulus package are designed to be the underpinnings of the Tom Daschle health plan…..which will lead to more bad medicine, not less.

  • Former SSA Claims Rep

    If you automatically assume everything someone says and thinks is wrong, what do you do with the things they say and think that actually make sense?

    Did they somehow get to Newt?

    This problem is at the root of efforts to bash Obama for inconvenient facts like his long-time sponsorship and support of the Ledbetter Bill, which actually took the form today of an assertion that he was the only democratic senator not to support it.

    If you insist on seeing it all as either black-or-white, you eventually run into problematic contradictions.

  • AlexisM

    I never said one way or another what I thought of Obama’s support of the Ledbetter Bill because I couldn’t figure out what was right or wrong. So if you look at my post I said “whatever the truth is, we know what Obama thinks of women.” You might want to go back and take a looksee.

    I don’t want my records made accessible to anyone. That’s a violation of my rights and I don’t really care what you think. Doctor/Patient confidentiality is a primary right of we Americans and we don’t have to let people destroy it. I also don’t get this crap that we have to agree with Newt. I don’t have to agree with any politician. I have my right to my opinion.

    I don’t like Obama and I see what he is doing to my country. It’s really black and white. He’s a nightmare and a fraud. Period.

  • no kidding

    alexis — I totally agree. If this was so great then when sneak it into a Stimulus Bill rather than explain it to the people. Nary a mention of lifestyle changes which would be required in any Single Payer Healthcare Bill just rationing. Sounds to me like a fast track to Euthenasia.

  • no kidding

    alexis — I totally agree. If this was so great then why sneak it into a Stimulus Bill rather than explain it to the people? Nary a mention of lifestyle changes which would be required in any Single Payer Healthcare Bill just rationing. Sounds to me like a fast track to Euthenasia.

  • no kidding

    Chris Martin — Why should I believe anything you say? You would support anything Obama says and does. Tell me — If this is so great why sneak it into The Stimulus Bill rather than discussing this with the American people?

  • no kidding

    MBC — Damn right.

  • no kidding

    I believe this is a way to knock off Seniors and save all that Social Security and Medicare money. One needs to go no further then Tom Daschle’s book Critical to see that he believes that Seniors should be allowed to die of their illnesses rather than getting better.

  • no kidding

    The AMA puts out a periodical which informs Doctors of the best treatments. We don’t need Bureaucrats rationing our Health Care.

  • JulieDarlingNotJulieOBOT

    Since when isn’t Newt Gingrich in the pockets of the insurance @u*&sters every bit as much as the DC Branch of the Daley Machine?

    MEchelle was paid to screw over poor and under/uninsured people trying to use Chicago U.

    The Government and Insurance Companies are not going to make things better.

    You may have noticed that credit cards are still loan sharking with no relief in sight.

    Credit Card Joe Biden is in bed with the banks.

    PBO and MEchelle are entwined with the Bad Hands People.

    This Administration could demand affordable health care and Rxs today, but …

    it won’t.

    No, bailing out banks and GM is what’s on the agenda.

  • AlexisM

    Tom Daschle is a worthless, horrible human being. Maybe we will all be around when he is elderly and infirm, and we can choose whether he lives or dies.

    I have said this many times here; I kept my father alive with every ounce of time, love and care I had in me, for as long as I could. If anyone tried to pull this crap on my mother or father, that they should be left to die because of their advanced age, well it wouldn’t be pretty. How dare these people pull this stuff?

    Our elderly are our gifts to treasure, those who preserve our history and memories, and the people who most importantly gave us our own lives. So the socialist nuts can just turn around and take their lives?

  • andrew191

    Magicians use distraction to get the audience to look away from the real trick. Con men use greed to manipulate their targets. Politicians use both tactics, they’ll wave a dollar in front of you, and when you concentrate on the little keep away game to grab the dollar, they’ll steal your wallet that’s FULL of money.

    I’ve read this whole thread, and while the argument rages back and forth over the merits of the health care provisions in the Swindle-us bill, no one has yet questioned just what the hell they’re doing in the bill in the first place! Don’t you think that such issues should be adressed separately? The fact that such important, but unrelated issues were quietly slipped into one of the most ponderous and hastilly written pieces of legistrative robbery, should cause all kinds of alarm bells to go off.

    The real and substantive debate at this point isn’t the form of socialized medical care our government could supply, but whether or not government should be involved in the first place damn-it.

    The saddist thing our last election demonstrates is the unrecognized loss of personal freedom and responsibility that a majority of our people have eschewed in favor of kleptoparasitic government solutions. Every new power our government assumes, represents another aspect of our lives with which we will no longer be free to exercise our own judgement. We may have reached the tipping point that Ayn Rand wrote about.

  • AlexisM

    PS…As a reminder of what the plans are for us…

    Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan.

    I just can’t believe people are buying into this crap that we should just “accept negative diagnoses” that mean the end and not try to treat them with “expensive” treatments. This is reprehensible. I wonder if he gets sick what he will do? Take a few aspirin and call us in the morning?

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs

  • elise

    I admit I am confused by the claims here that this guarantees health care for everyone, nohalf. From reading the legislation, it appears to be no more than an attempt to organize and distribute information. I can’t imagine Newt Gingrich agreeing to any part of a bill creating universal health care and this is what Hillary advocated. In fact, if Gingrich is advocating for this bill, that alone would make me suspicious given who hard he has fought in the past to make sure the health insurance industry is given the benefit of the doubt in reguard to paying for treatment. It is my understanding this bill was based in large part on Tom Daschle’s book and ideas and he lobbied for pharmaceuticals. It doesn’t address the problems with HMOs and PPOs which were the creation of the Nixon administration. Too often these things have been pushed into law and are difficult to go back and change. Obama has never supported mandetory insurance for adults and it’s doubtful he ever will.

  • elise

    I disagree Chris. No one fought harder against universal health care than Newt Gingrich and anything he supports in medical care gives me pause. Did you see Michael Moore’s film on health care, SICKO? He pointed out Gingrich and others in congress were taking donations from pharmaceutical and health insurance companies during the time they were opposing Hillary’s health care program. Tom Daschel opposed Hillary’s health care proposal as being too complex because it mandated heath care for everyone. As it exists now, insurance companies can refuse to accept a patient if there are pre-existing conditions and although the technology may be helpful in some ways, there is always a danger when private info can be made public.

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    I used to push for universal healthcare in america. I have it here in Italy, and am very pleased with the care my family receives. We also have a few doctors and nurses in the family, so I see both sides of the whole system.

    However, after witnessing the collapse of the banking industry, the housing industry, fannie mae/freddie mac, and the crap the Dems pulled this primary, I am totally rethinking the idea.

    I used to believe the Dems cared. Now I see they are just as crooked and geedy and pathetic as the rest of them.

    I really worry about turning the healthcare system over to the government anymore. Universal healthcare is only as good as the people working for the system. If you have dedicated, responsible, honest caregivers, clerical workers, managers and vendors, the system works great. But, throw in a few bad fish and the whole system will rot. And I no longer have faith in the Dems to not rot the pot.

    I definitely think something needs to be done. Insurance companies denying treatment must not continue. But, I seriously worry about handing over the health care industry to the government.

    I can see the benefit of computerized health records, but I can also see the downfall. That was my objection to this in the stimulus bill. I believe it should be handled in a seperate bill, with all kinds of controls, and laws put in place, and part of a broader plan. I don’t trust those sitting in DC to do the right thing. They lost my trust.

    Great article though! Very informative.

  • Linda C.

    There is advantages and disadvantages. Having computerized medical records will stop the doctor/practitioner from re-inventing the wheel. We do that allot. If patient x had a unpleasant reaction to medication y several years ago..the patient doesn’t remember the name of the medication..then the new doctor will prescribe it again in a waste of time and money.

    I have yet to figure out how they are getting all the different systems to work together in some efficient manner, but we will see. It does help treatment in the VA facilities. It also helps identify narcotic abusers who go from doctor to doctor to get narcotic prescriptions.

  • nohalf

    This does not guarantee health care for all, I was commenting on the British system that does.

    What this plan means if you travel outer state, even within your state this means that if you have an accident the Doctor that is treating you knows of any conditions that may affect treatment. If you need to be provided with certain drugs, the Doctor and hospital knows what others were charged. It puts downward pressure on medical prices, which if you may have noticed are going up massively.

    This allows the Agency that President Bush set up the IT equipment to realize its aim. It is in the Recovery Act because it provides a much needed boost to an ailing IT industry and improves health access.

    As for being proud of our Health Care and not wanting change, only the most extreme Republican would say that. Even John McCain was suggesting this. We have the highest costs and lowest outcomes for that. Our health care is #37 in the World. That is a national disgrace.

  • nohalf

    Well I hope you never have an accident out of State.

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