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Post-SOTU Al-Kaidee-On-The-Run OPEN THREAD (3 UPDATES)

Wide open thread. I hope none of you got drunk toasting every time Lame Duck said “freedom” or “EEE-rak.” Here are some tidbits from the reporting post-SOTU:

     * Jonathan Singer, via MyDD: “Hmm… Hillary and Biden sitting next to one another. Are we going to be hearing something soon?”

obama-wontshakehands-1s.jpg     * The A.P.: “Sen. Barack Obama came first, followed closely by his new patron, Sen. Edward Kennedy. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton entered the chamber a few minutes later, equally mobbed by well-wishers. She reached out and shook Kennedy’s hand. Obama, nearby, turned away.”

UPDATE: Taylor Marsh has more in “Obama Turns Away from Clinton,” including the photograph I just added.

r3161065816.jpgUPDATE x2: Obama was all smiles while he was chatting it up with George Bush before the SOTU. (Photo: Reuters/Yahoo.)

UPDATE x3: BELOW THE FOLD, and it’s not pretty. (Hint: The Baltimore Sun‘s blog, The Swamp, has the story: “At SOTU, Obama’s Clinton snub was the news.”)

That immature rudeness (what else can one call it?) reminds me of Mr. Obama’s behavior after he lost in Nevada. He not congratulate Sen. Clinton on her victory, nor did he call her with congratulations. In contrast, on Saturday night after the South Carolina primary, Sen. Clinton called Sen. Obama to congratulate him, and did so too in her speech in Tennessee, carried live on C-Span.

There’s something arrogant — and ill-mannered — about the man when he’s “scoring” victories and endorsements. That is, if it can be said that he really “scored” today when he got the endorsement of Teddy Kennedy, despised by Republicans (who Obama is courting). The same Teddy Kennedy that an arrogant Obama attacked nastily in 2003:

“[W]hen he was an Illinois State Senator in 2003 … [Obama called out] Sen. Ted Kennedy, the liberal lion, for not showing enough political backbone on “a prescription drug bill being considered by Congress.

“‘We’ve … got to call up Ted Kennedy and say, Ted, you’re getting a little old now, and you’ve been a fighter for us before I don’t know what’s happening now, Ted get some spine and stand up to the Republicans’.” — Huffington Post‘s story, “Obama Called Out Ted Kennedy: ‘You’re Getting A Little Old…Get Some Spine’

It reminds me of an article I read earlier today at Slate by John Dickerson, “Song of Myself — How much room does Obama have to boast?“:

UPDATE 3x:

[UPDATE] There’s buzz about this. The Baltimore Sun‘s blog, The Swamp, has the story: “At SOTU, Obama’s Clinton snub was the news“:

[W]hat everyone in the House press gallery is talking about isn’t the speech. Rather, it’s the snub.

Sen. Barack Obama refused to make himself available to greet Sen. Hillary Clinton before the speech.

When members of the Senate entered the chamber, Obama came in before Clinton. He went out of his way to greet as many House members as possible and walked halfway across the chamber to greet members of the Supreme Court, the president’s cabinet, the military joint chiefs.

That made what happened next even more striking. Obama returned to stand by his seat next to Sen. Edward Kennedy who endorsed Obama today in a widely watched event that reverberated across the political world.

As Clinton approached, Kennedy made sure to make eye contact and indicated he wanted to shake her hand. Clinton leaned towards Kennedy over a row of seats and Kennedy leaned in towards her. They shook hands.

Obama stood icily staring at Clinton during this, then turned his back and stepped a few feet away. Kennedy may’ve wanted to make peace with Clinton but Obama clearly wanted no part of that.

The sense in the press gallery was that Obama didn’t cover himself in glory. Someone even used the word “childish.” (Not this writer.) Judging by how much conversation there was about this brush off in the press gallery, Americans will be hearing a lot more about this tomorrow and in coming days. …

From Dickerson’s Slate article, “Song of Myself — How much room does Obama have to boast?“:

This week Barack Obama’s campaign turned into a victory lap. In a four-day “Judgment and Experience” tour, the senator celebrated the fifth anniversary of his speech opposing the Iraq war. “On the single most important foreign policy issue of our time, I got it right,” Obama said. His Web site shows voters from around the country reading portions of his 2002 speech  to one another. Obama gave a new speech Tuesday that claimed he has keener insight than Washington politicians, the media, and the foreign policy establishment. Anyone who doubted that assertion, he said, was merely “bent out of shape” by having their assumptions challenged by someone who had “spent time serving in the wider world.” Namely: himself. This was a new strategy but not unrecognizable behavior. On the stump, Obama often tells voters how bold he is—talking about fuel efficiency in front of Detroit automakers and confronting powerful lobbies that other politicians are afraid to challenge. For a candidate so anxious to remind everyone that  he’s not a typical Beltway insider, Obama can sound a lot like a classic Washington type: the senator who regards himself too highly. [...]

Obama has put such focus on a single speech out of necessity. His opponents, particularly Hillary Clinton and her husband, question whether he has the experience to be president. Obama’s boasting answers critique and put Clinton on the defensive at the same time. It’s probably a smart tactic, but the posture is at odds with the reflective politician who in 2004 talked about not knowing which way he would have voted on the Iraq question if he’d been in the Senate at the time. [...]

Obama’s reliance on his anti-war position invites stories that question whether he is inflating his courage. This creates a double risk: résumé inflation suggests both dishonesty and a lack of anything else to boast about. Some Democrats say Hillary Clinton takes too much credit for her role initiating the SCHIP. (Ted Kennedy was the bill’s driving force.) But her bragging hasn’t sounded excessive, and voters will probably tolerate it. [...]

In a speech containing 80 uses of the first-person pronoun, Obama did have one line of quasi-humility: “I am not a perfect man and I won’t be a perfect president.” A more effective balance may be his wife, who regularly includes in her praise the comment that he is also human and able to admit his mistakes. He’ll need a dose of that when he gets home after his “I was right” tour.

Read all of “Song of Myself — How much room does Obama have to boast?.”

Confidence is a great trait. Cockiness is not.

My daughter just called me to report Obama’s own “Bushism” on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360, in response to Cooper’s question regarding President Clinton:

“There have been times when factual statements were made that were inaccurate.”

  • some guy

    Dear Susan:

    It is really obnoxious (and creepily anti-man) the way you attempt to use the word “scoring” as if the (many, important) endorsements that Obama is getting are somehow sexual victories for him.

    I think you probably have some very, very deep-seated issues with men and your relationships to men. I encourage you to engage in some soul searching.

    Beyond that, you have transformed a web site that used to be an insider’s take on middle east foreign policy into a bizarre, quasi-tabloid, freakishly obsessive anti-Obama web site. Six months ago, this was a web site that I used to frequent, looking for information and insights into middle east current events and policies. Then, you took over. Today, it is a web site I visit twice a month, and see nothing but obsessive anger post after anger post, all directed at Barack Obama, a public figure whom you seem to have a really queer personal fixation on and hatred of.

    I encourage you to take a time out, for your own sake.

    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      See my response below. It’s you who insert sexuality into it. It never crossed my mind. I was thinking of basketball, e.g. scoring points. Loosen up! And don’t take everything so seriously.

      If you want to talk about something else, post something about the SOTU tonight. This is an OPEN thread — bring up a topic! Don’t pout.

      • http://www.food4humanity.org HoosierHoops

        Now wait just one minute!!
        Let’s leave the scoring to sports here..
        Susan is right..there was no alluding to sexual scoring..methinks somebody is stuck in the 70′s.
        ( hey Dude, let’s score some chicks tonight )
        Reread that last line..are you smiling at the stupidity of it yet?
        Athletes can score points for thier team
        People can score points in an augument
        you can score materials..like scoring glass.
        Any how..since this is open thread i’ve got a funny story to tell from this weekend.. I’ll post it when i finish reading the rest of the posts in this thread. meanwhile i need to score another cup of java.

    • simon

      I won’t speak for Susan, but I know I appreciate your concern, and courage. I would never have considered the use of the word “score” to indicate what you so presciently NAILED, reverse sexism.

      It’s SUCH a PC world.

      We are better people for your intellect.

      • norris morris

        People score points all the time. There is nothing sexy here.

        It’s in your head but clearly Susan did not suggest sexuality.

        I am critical of Obama. I might even vote for him if he can take responsibility for his actions and explain them. And explain what he stands for with specifics.

        At least he finally but evasively stated that “only children will be mandated” which means about 15 to 20 million will have to buy from Ins co’s if they can afford to. You know, the grown ups.

        A good candidate knows they have to be vetted. Obama leaves the impression that he is excused from this process because he is annointed.

        A great candidate deals with these things quickly and forcibly. We’re waiting.

        • simon

          I was being facetious — use of word:nailed.

          As in, “gee, I’d like to NAIL her, him or a piece of bread pudding” right?

          (Sounds like someone’s sex life: male, female, warm bread pudding, I’ll take it…)

          I was mocking the person who criticized Susan.

    • shirin

      While I have to agree with you that this site seems to have transmogrified into an embarrassingly obsessively anti-Obama/pro-Hillary site, you are really, really out of line with the pseudo-psychological ad hominems rubbish you have aimed at Susan.

      And by the way, your suggestion that this is all because she has taken over the site – or that she has taken over the site at all – is nonsense. Anti-Obama-mania appears to have taken over the site for sure, but it’s not just coming from Susan.

      • Nancy K

        I agree that this site seems more anti Obama than anything else. I have been following this blog site for a long time but will be deleting off favorites as soon as I finish this post. No Quarters is reminding me of Bill Clinton’s tactics and there is nothing admirable in either.
        I can listen to Rush and get the same disinformation or watch faux news. I am very disappointed.

    • http://www.despair.com/changewinds.html Smilin’ Jim

      Greetings some,

      Further titillations await you libido on the Halperin article.

      “Defying the Nattering Nabobs of Negativism, Clinton scores the endorsement of symbolically and substantively potent superdelegate/California Representative Maxine Waters.”

      Let your imagination run riot.

      Best to get a room, though.

  • ps

    Susan -

    Do you understand also that making references to aggressive male sexuality (“scoring”) with respect to a black male candidate overtly “plays the race card” or in fact, is a thinly-veiled (if veiled at all) cheap exploitation of a racist, anti-black stereotype?

    The exact same thing that the Clintons are being hung from a yard arm over? At least Bill only compared Obama to Jesse Jackson (as if that’s really bad). You, on the other hand, are getting Stagger Lee.

    Really, its creepy of you. You might consider yourself “progressive” and “feminist” but you are coming across like the (overtly racist) Elizabeth Cady Stanton, who spoke out against giving black men the right to vote.

    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      I was thinking about scoring points, a la basketball. It’s you who interpret it as sexuality.

      • TeakWoodKite

        Detroit by 2? :)

        • simon

          Minnesota down 5…

    • http://www.evergreenpolitics.com shoephone

      Elizabeth Cady Stanton was “overtly racist”?

      You’re a dumbass.

      Stanton supported the right of blacks to gain the vote and she worked alongside F. Douglas, but let’s have a little reality: The Seneca Falls suffragettes’ conference took place in 1848. When did America’s women finally get the right to vote?

      1920.

      Do the fucking math.

      Throwing around accusations of racism seems to be your specialty. But be careful. Your sexism is showing.

      • TeakWoodKite

        I was driving cross country in my 4 door and pulled over at Seneca Falls for a 4am nap, on my way to Boston and Steves Ice Cream. I woke up right under a historical sign pointing that out.
        Steves Ice Cream was real good considering the line around the block and it being 20 degrees outside.

        • http://www.evergreenpolitics.com shoephone

          Ha! I remember Steve’s Ice Cream always had a line around the block, no matter what. And for good reason — it was delicious and they really piled it on the cone.

          I also remember buying a futon and frame down the block from the Mass Ave. Steve’s and that was the frame that finally did my lower back in.

          Oh, to be young again.

          • TeakWoodKite

            I got a kick watching them fold in the M&M’s with folks dressed warm, like fat ticks cramed into the place.

            Young always.

          • simon

            Was this in Boston?

            When I lived there, we went to a place somewhere around the North End, the first time I had homemade ice cream.

            Just a plain cream, but, boy, was it good.

            Can’t remember the name of the place, though.

      • norris morris

        These charges of racism anytime anyone comments or riticizes Obama will be very negative for him.

        If his candidacy decends into racist accusations it will become a devisive issue.

        Are Obamites expecting us to be so gullible and guilty that we aren’t asking the same questions we’d ask Clinton or any candidate?

        Asking us to defend ourselves as racists is divisive on its face. Questioning and vetting are all part of the political process.

        Obama comes from the tough turf of South Side Chicago politics. So what is this trash talk about racism when we look critically at something he refuses to answer?

        There is an expectation of unrealistic treatment that won’t be excused or tolerated with racist charges. Also Obama was overtly rude tonite in Congress. See the pictures and how it comes across. Rude and arrogant. He cut Hillary dead as she reached out in his direction he turned away.

        Now, this is just not Presidential behavior.

        • BernieO

          I agree that crying racism will probably backfire, if – if – the public finds out about it. Right now the media is ignoring Obama’s faults, including the snub of Hillary at the SOTU. This morning CNN played it as if both candidates were being cold to each other. MSNBC is spending its time obsessing over Teddy’s endorsement. What is ironic is that Ted endorsed Obama because he thinks Obama will raise the tone of our politics, etc. So how does Obama repay Ted? By acting petulant right in front of him on the very same day!
          Some people are saying it is silly to comment on this, but Obama’s whole premise is that he will get us away from petty politics. He is either lying or incapable of fulfilling that promise. If he reacts this way to the rough and tumble of normal politics wait until he has to face tough Republican opposition. (And, no, Alan Keyes doesn’t count.)
          As for this site being anti-Obama, I think it is because the media is so biased that hardly anyone is pointing out Obama’s weaknesses. You can hear the other side on pretty much any mainstream news outlet and many liberal blogs.
          I only wish there had been websites doing this on behalf of Gore in 2000. The more people become aware of the slanted coverage the more pressure will be brought to bear on the media to knock it off. Whomever you support, it is not good for our democracy to give voters misleading information. If you don’t believe me, just how do you think Bush got elected in 2000? The media trashed Gore at every opportunity and fawned over Bush. They did not inform the publid about Bush’s glaring flaws or his outright lies.

    • shirin

      You are the one who is creepy. Moreover you are boring as shit.

      Cut out the psycho-babble and talk about something of substance.

  • Delia

    I didn’t watch the SOTU. I carried through with my intentions I mentioned in the earlier thread and watched DVD’s of The Dog Whisperer. It was very impressive. Cesar Millan used his techniques on a threatening, dog-aggressive Rottweiler and turned him into a big sweetie. I’m thinking that maybe we could get Cesar to put a choke collar on George, take him to his dog pack in LA, and teach him some manners. He’s been a spoiled brat who’s always gotten his own way all his life. All he needs is a calm assertive pack leader. Who knows? It might even work with Dead-Eye Dick.

    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      I love The Dog Whisperer. Cut out the channel package with National Geographic to save money, and I miss that one show a lot. My daughter has used his techniques with her rescue dog she adopted, and it really helped.

      • Delia

        There are some dvd’s out. I don’t have the high-end cable package, either.

        • LuigiDaMan

          I watched movies. Yeah, I getr all the channels – for free. I work for a big cable company. Nobody ever said life was fair.

          Except maybe Obama.

        • LuigiDaMan

          I watched movies last night. Yeah, I get all the channels – for free. I work for a big cable company. Nobody ever said life was fair.

          Except maybe Obama.

  • NB

    To the previous poster, with all due respect, shut-up. Susan was not making a sexual reference. Personally, I believe Obama views politics as a sport. His arrogance gets in the way of him recognizing that politics is not a game, it is about the experiences of people’s lives. He is a little, little man, and that is coming through more and more these days. I once thought I could support him, but he has demonstrated his arrogance again and again and again. It is shocking for a man who actually has so few accomplishments. I say this not to be mean, or to bash Senator Obama, but because I am actually disgusted with his arrogance and gracelessness.

    • norris morris

      Basically he is behaving rudely and above us mere mortals.

      The arrogance is very visible. He absolutely loves himelf.

      He seems to be saying, “I dare you!”.

      • shirin

        I haven’t noticed any of this stuff, probably because I wrote him off a long time ago based on his history and his current positions, so I don’t need to pay attention to his personality.

  • Taters

    Dear some guy,
    What a bunch of sanctimonious bullshit. It sure sounds to me as if you’re projecting. If you’ve got issues, get some tissues, OK? Feel free to rebut her but your psycho drivel is way over the line.

    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      Ha! What a great response! God almighty, the sexual angle never entered my mind! Some people are way, way uptight.

      • simon

        I was thinking in Obama, they finally found someone more petulant, more childish than Bush.

        Obama can’t take it, he’s pouting, like a sullen teen-ager?

        Just what we need in a President.

      • http://www.evergreenpolitics.com shoephone

        Ignore them, Susan. They’re embarassing themselves. As I’ve mentioned, I went to the SOTU last year and I witnessed first hand the hostility between him and Clinton — a year ago. Obama arrogance is creepy and that attitude of his is not going to do him any good.

        Despite the silly hype, he’s no Jack Kennedy.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Hey All:
      “If you can’t control Bill Clinton On the campaign how are going to control him in the White House?”…Nora O’Donald.

      When is a former president is treated like some dog on a leash and “bitch slapped” by the media, (never mind Hillary) some of us can’t snap out of it long enough to see what we are watching is nothing short of a virtual lynching. Thats right! I said it!
      It is not the candidates that are being shown the rope. ‘Tis we who are getting our collective necks twisted in the wind.

      Soooo Barak Obama gets too much crap on this site? I’m hearing this from criticaly thinking intelligent individuals? Perhaps it IS worth considering that Obama is not being eyeballed critically on our dear leader Infomercial Shows at all.
      Christ Edwards was hung weeks ago like playing hangman on a napkin at an all night interstate diner
      while waiting for your cold toast to show up.

      “Ted Kennedy annointed a son of Camelot today”?
      (news caster) abc
      Camelot is the most famous fictional castle and court associated with the legendary King Arthur

      We are chosing a fictional king to live in a fictional castle? All this while we live in a fictional Constitutional Republic? Can I have some of those fairy tale drugs?

      Any one who thinks the only thing Cheney shoots are friends in the face, better turn of anything electronic.

      • norris morris

        TeakWoodKite,

        Well said. I would guess that if Obama continues to show this kind of anger and rudeness it will definitely backfire.

        He has been coached by the elders to show contmpt for the Clintons and it shows.

        They are villified every second.

        I am witnessing a man with speaking skills but no grace under fire.

        • simon

          But despite this contempt for the Clintons, (again, Barry using a right wing tactic,) the Clintons always come out ahead.

          I wonder why the right cant beat them?

          It’s as if the republicans, and Obama, have ADD, can’t see the future, or past, purely in the moment.

          Whereas the Clintons are able to move more freely through time, for lack of a better visual.

  • TeakWoodKite

    I was not disappointed when I heard the 16 words I was waiting for. “Iran has longer range missle and is making nukes for desert…Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran”

    Keith O played them and had to remind the viewers that this said tonight and not 5 years ago….

  • Montag

    Bush’s speech reminded me of warmed over leftovers with a dollup of spaghetti sauce on top for taste. It was like “Deja Vu all over again.” He revisited a lot of ideas he’d covered in previous SOTU diatribes, to no discernable effect. Reminded me of that old commercial, “Where are the flying cars? I was promised flying cars.” Bush makes these high falutin speeches with bold ideas and then ten minutes later he pulls an Emily Latella: “Never mind!” And how many times has he announced a solution to the Palestinian Question? Whenever he has a spare 10 minutes he figures that that’s all it will take because the answer is so SIMPLE. As Homer Simpson would say, “D’OH!”

    It’s just like Rumsfeld’s “snowflakes.” As Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld would shower subordinates with urgent memos in such quantities that they were dubbed, “snowflakes.” At first the departments were tied in knots as they struggled to implement the memos. But they soon learned that Rumsfeld FORGOT about them as soon as they were written, and they could be safely ignored. Rummie’s reach exceeded his grasp. A good epitaph for the Bush Administration, I’d say.

  • Mr.Murder

    Chris Hitchens pillories Hillary’s husband as Slate. The magazine started to help insert more right leaning topics into the mainstream, from a supposedly independent perspective.

    Huffington was running it without the author byline on their front page, after complaint they added his name, as a qualifier of its author, to any who cared to link it for a read.

    The statement itself, ‘Clintons are playing race card,’ is what they want out there.

    Never mind that Hitchens is a windbag and hates the Clintons, to the point he made a cottage industry attacking on them.

    It surprisingly matches previous opposition talking points put out by campaign staffers.

  • J.Citizen

    I gotta agree, in part, with someguy.

    Not about the scoring.

    But about what happened to this site. I too used to come here for intellegent comment on important issues.

    Its like a junior-high chat site now, for anti-Obama hackery. WHats up with this?

  • Mr.Murder

    At another site I speculated that Rezko’s $3.5 million dollar friend was part of the Contra network, our Iraq side of the deal.

    Seeing he lived in London the INC immediately came to mind.

    Turns out he’s involved with both, as most of the contras were.

    The Luxembeourg banking interests of Auchi, that hooked up with Rezko, also was a middle man for arms dealing into Iraq with a contra financier.

    Denis Robert und Ernest Backes, two journalists, have written a book, Revelations, about the Leir/Auchi connection.

    The book covers Auchi to a considerable extent.

    He facilitated its entry and integration into World business and Finance. Henry J. Leir, who died three years ago in New York, headed many companies for decades from New York, Luxemborg and Lausanne, in many areas (raw materials, metalls, weapons, finance), and by the fifties he was already one of the world’s richest men. In close cooperation with the political establishment he used Luxemburg as a basis and diving board for his businesses. He succeeded in making the country one of the most trustworthy of America’s partners. His nearness to the Republican party as to the Government of Luxemburg and the court of the duke he employed to the glory and success of his divergent businesses. ”

    A man who, one would assume, would shrink with horror from partnering with a minion of Saddam. Yet Auchi and Leir seemed to hit it off. Perhaps this is because Leir, and Luxemborg banks, have a long history of supping with various devils. Roberts’ book reveals more than the machinations of Auchi in the present. Ernst Backes was a central figure, apparently, in the setting up of an international clearing house in Luxemborg. He was involved, for instance, in the transfer of seven million dollars from a private American bank to the national bank of Algeria in 1980, which was the basis for the arms for hostages deal cemented between Reagan and Iran.

    http://limitedinc.blogspot.com/2003/04/bollettino-bagmen-coups-are-expensive.html
    Unfortunately, his link will no longer hook up for me to verify. Some corroborating links do hook up, mostly UK guardian, other EU papers. The two key items do not, but contain directive headers.
    Look further for Blair’s connection–Labour blocks extradition of Iraqi tycoon | Special reports
    observer.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,,887393,00.html

    Again, his good friend appears to have been a middle man for Israeli proliferation as well.

    The Observer article doesn’t touch on his connections with one Henry J. Leir. If you touch on that connection, you can get sued for libel, as Le Soir in Belgium found out. There is an article of mysterious provenance floating on the web none the less, in which it is claimed that Auchi was connected as an arms dealer with Leir. Leir, apparently, is golden: a major player in channeling enriched uranium to Israel — again, for you libel lawyers out there, this is all wink wink. Leir endowed a chair at Tufts university in — oh, spirit of the age — peace, and seems to be an establishment figure in America — but in Europe he has a different reputation.

    Six degrees of separation from the yellowcake forgery?

  • gqmartinez

    I may be able to buy the use of “scoring” as a sexual term. But as a racist term? Really? I know very few men, straight or gay, black or white or brown or…who don’t like to “score”. How natural male physiology has become racist is beyond me. But, you know, I have been indoors reading for the last couple hours so maybe all non-blacks suddenly became eunuchs during that time.

  • Mr.Murder

    Why yes, Rezko’s overseas financier is indeed an Oil for Food holdover. He aslo is connected with direct ties to the October Surprise, from the above thread comment.

    Iraqi Born Billionaire Has Stake in Bank That Holds Oil for Food Funds
    By TIMOTHY L. O’BRIEN

    http://www.puk.org/web/htm/news/nws/news030430b.html

    One of the largest private shareholders in BNP Paribas, the French bank that holds more than $13 billion in Iraqi oil funds administered through the United Nation’s oil for food program, is an Iraqi born businessman who once helped to arm Iraq in the 1980′s and brokered business deals with Saddam Hussein’s government, according to public records and interviews.

    The involvement of the businessman, the British billionaire Nadhmi Auchi, raises questions about how carefully the United Nations has vetted the bank in its continuing role as repository of oil for food funds.

    The oil for food program began in 1996 as an effort to ease the impact of economic sanctions on civilians after the United Nations imposed them on Iraq in 1990. Although the United Nations pressed Iraq to allow banks other than BNP Paribas to be the primary repository for billions of dollars in oil revenue, Iraq successfully insisted that BNP Paribas remain the sole caretaker of the program’s escrow account

    .
    Oil scandal billionaire tells French court of bribes
    Iraqi-born Briton describes huge kickbacks
    Paul Webster and Martin Bright in Paris
    Wednesday May 7, 2003
    The Guardian
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,950522,00.html

    An Iraqi born British billionaire told a French court yesterday how he had paid millions of pounds in kickbacks to French oil executives.
    Nadhmi Auchi,
    65, reputedly Britain’s seventh richest man, is one of 37 company administrators and business partners accused of being involved in France’s biggest postwar financial scandal in which the oil firm, now TotalFinaElf, allegedly paid out huge sums in bribes and backhanders to expand its empire.

    April 18, 2003
    Oil, Food and a Whole Lot of Questions
    By CLAUDIA ROSETT
    New York Times

    As for the program’s vast bank accounts, the public is told only that letters of credit are issued by a French bank, BNP Paribas. Kurdish leaders in northern Iraq, entitled to goods funded by 13 percent of the program’s revenues, have been trying for some time to find out how much interest they are going to receive on $4 billion in relief they are still owed. The United Nations treasurer told me that that no outside party, not even the Kurds, gets access to those figures.

    Then there is the program’s compensation commission, which is supposed to dole out 25 percent of all oil for food proceeds to people and companies harmed by Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait in 1990. It has so far dispensed $17.5 billion and approved a further $26.2 billion. Who decides on compensation claims? Commission members are picked from a “register of experts” supplied by Mr. Annan. One staff member told me that that this register cannot be released because it is “not public.” The identities of the individual claimants are, of course, “confidential.”

    So oil for food scammers were basically laundering funds back into the USA for propping up politicans and running land flips. Let’s look a bit closer at relief for the credit bubble now!
    http://boards.biography.com/click.jspa?searchID=-1&messageID=177454

    Wingers from the boards who maintained copies of those links are due a schadenfreude overdose.

  • Mr.Murder

    Now look at the Iraqi National Congress/London nexus of political and parliamentary hacks:

    “Gordon is sitting pretty with the media right now, which means the Brown regime can get away with being equally as politically corrupt as Blair ever was, but with hardly anyone noticing.

    Item one: Brown took a leaf out of the Karl Rove playbook this week and did an info dump the day before Parliament recessed; quite a lot of important announcements were made all at once, not least the least interesting of which is that the chair of the Guardian media group has been appointed to his fourth government post. (Why don’t they just rename it the Brown Guardian and have done?)

    None of these announcements can be questioned in parliament because it’s not sitting and as mentioned the parliamentary reporters are away on holiday so by the time parliament returns events will have overtaken any questions anyway.

    Nod, nod, wink wink, say no more.

    Item two: Leader of the House and Secretary of State Harriet Harman also tried the same trick in the Commons, waiting until the very last moment to try and outrageously push through the appointment of the odious Keith Vaz as chair of the Home Affairs Select committee, the supposedly independent, cross-party parliamentary body which oversees all executive activity in prisons, terrorism, policing, community cohesion and so on.

    It’s hard to overestimate the potential power that the Chair of a truly independent Home Affairs select committee could have to hold a rampant executive to account – so of course Brown seeks to decapitate it by disregarding the constitution and getting one cabinet puppet to interfere in another branch of government and appoint another puppet as committee chair. Simon Carr in the Independent:
    {…]

    …may we express some post-honeymoon skepticism about the PM’s assertions on the value of an independent Commons as well. He doesn’t believe anything of the sort.

    As a result, Harriet Harman had great lumps torn out of her on the floor of the House. There was that, at least.

    She had suspended Standing Orders in order to appoint Keith Vaz as the new member of the Home Affairs Select Committee (and, under the whips’ instructions, to be the next chair of it).

    The skeptical conclusion hooks up Keith Vaz, the Czar of oversight review for British PM, to the same international con man and outstanding warrant man who contests extradition to other EU nations. Keith Vaz connects directly back to our scandal via Rezko’s man for international finance.

    Keith Vaz was also a director of the company General Mediterranean Holdings’ owned by the Anglo-Iraqi billionaire Nadhmi Auchi, who had in the past hired British politicians Lord David Steel and Lord Norman Lamont as directors. Vaz resigned his post as director when he became Minister for Europe, but it was later discovered that he had remained in contact with Auchi and had made inquiries on his behalf over a French extradition warrant, Auchi even calling Vaz at home to ask the minister for advice.

    http://www.cloggie.org/proggold/2007/07/page/2/
    Tony Blair, George Bush, Barack Obama, accidental cowboys playing international call boys to the same financier crew.

    Perhaps Rep.Conyers is ready top review the Downing Minutes.

    What about Sen.Rockefeller’s Phase II report?

    Have the British learned anymore about significant quantities of anything being trafficked internationally, like laundered money from nine billion dollars that went missing in Iraq?

  • Mr.Murder

    Perhaps Obama will want to ask Rezko about his financier Auchi and the man’s role in supplying arms for genocide in the Sudan:

    Paging Alan

    Comments Off Posted in ROPMA by Andrew Ian Dodge on June 8th, 2007

    The little-known Anglo-Arab Organisation claims to promote a better understanding between Britain and the Arab world. Its president, Nadhmi Auchi, recently met with the genocidal President of Sudan, Omar al-Bashir, and invited him to come and visit Britain. Bashir accepted.

    This may come as something of a shock to one of the AAO’s patrons, Conservative shadow secretary of state for transport, Alan Duncan. Only a month ago he signed an early day motion on Sudan Divestment, which campaigns to end global financial support for the Sudanese government. Seems like grammar schools aren’t the only thing that the Tories are in a state of confusion over.

    Via: Popbitch.

  • Mr.Murder

    Do arms finanicers “worship an awesome god,” too?

  • Mr.Murder

    The Pentagon has asked the Coalition Provisional Authority in Baghdad to cancel three contracts for Iraqi cell phone networks, worth about $500 million annually, citing fraud and the companies’ links to an Iraqi-born Briton with ties to Saddam Hussein. According to the Washington Times, “the companies are suspected of rigging the bids for the cell phone contracts in favor of Nadhmi Auchi, who owns part of Orascom and a controlling interest in the bank BNP Paribas, which ‘is the French bank selected by Saddam Hussein to run the Oil for Food program.’”

    posted at 7:14 AM by GS(he linked to the Washington Times, front page, from the 06/20/2004 blog date).
    pondblog.blogspot.com

    People were making some connections on these campaign characters from day one of the political season, including this lady:

    (Has anyone investigated Chicago Obama’s connections to Tony Rezko and Nadhmi Auchi? Sometimes ya gotta wonder which foreign power brokers pay who to help bring about the new world the billionaires are paid to bring about. But – I guess the campaign laws are too severe for anyone to do anything illegal, right?)

    http://kateablog.blogspot.com/2008/01/huckabama-tv.html

    She can speak with some gravitas perspecitve:

    Mother of five (four in military uniform including daughter-in-law). Grandmother of seven. Central America (under Reagan/Bush) – Been there, done that. When I was 17 it was a very good year for small town girls….

  • Mr.Murder

    The international financier Rezko hooked up with is seriously bad news.

    Suspected money man for the October surprise.

    Iran/Contra smuggler.

    Oil for Food profiteer.

    Bribed members of Parliament and Blair’s Ministry.

    PNB Barabas, the bank that Rezko financier Auchi dealt with in Oil for Food for Kurdistan(owing $4 billion in relief plus interest), is being rumored to aim for a buyout of rival bank Society Generale after one employee supposedly swapped out 7.1 billion in trading schemes from the rival investment bank.

    Two of France’s top three banks merging, billions in euros gone(wire reports), and Sarkozy a good friend of GWB following him around the Mid East. Tagging on Dubya’s recent visit to seal the deal on several major arms and aero defense transactions.(h/t nur-al)

    IMO, Sen.Obama messed up a lot, didn’t see or heed the full scope of it, and Sen.Kennedy is siding with him to help retain any political future for the young man.

    Ted can take the political lumps, he’s done as much to help keep Sen.Kerry viable nationally in a past race. That doesn’t mean I think Sen.Obama should get the nod, too many policy differences at this time in his career.

    A lot of this is going on, the GOP has been using this tactic a lot, the Leung fundraising scandal is but one example. They tried to taint the Clintons, yet the woman married a former diplomat and attended Dubya’s inauguration at the VIP section in 2000. Double agent mole, possibly connected to the Washington Times owner’s financial network in a big way as well.

    Sen.Kennedy is basically taking a round for the youngster, he’s sparring at this time, very new to this level. He’s been through tougher things and can mentor Barack, who indeed may need a father figure to help him redetermine his priorities and focus.

    Potential alone doesn’t make you a heavyweight champ.

    It’s admirable that Kennedy is doing this, and disappointing for Obama, it doesn’t mean his political days are over. If he were to do this right he’d go right back to the European affairs subcommittee where he Chairs and right the wrongs this Rezko creep has tried to partake in, he’d earn redemption. Rezko influenced the man through buying out oversight for laissez-faire profitmaking at a good young man’s expense. This wasn’t just Sen. Barack Obama, big names in the Senate on both sides sit alongside him in Foreign Affairs, and private interests were more than willing to let someone else be a patsy.

    Look at the position he was put in. Dwindling revenues from billionaire tax cuts put a young office holder in a position that he had to find ways of maintaining capital flow in a huge business town. Outside interests ready to buy up the compacted market line up with instant liquid and assets. People put off tightening the belt through many means at that level of politics, if the Congress doesn’t the local Governor will(thats who these bad players were first working with).

    He still has a chance to win things over the right way. The Bull market isn’t all about bull. Nothing can shape your political outlook like the realization that you can come back and win one for the underdogs.

    I’d certainly cheer him on then, join him in the fight. The true measure of power isn’t how many you bring down, it’s how many you help make the most of their effort alongside you. The ability to make powerful allies out of rivals or opponents is what great leaders can do.

    IMO great individuals can’t even get this done, it’s a team effort. Establishing a plurality of assets within the diplomatic ranks at home and abroad. The true powerbrokers are actually decentralized, as they act across international lines. It isn’t about telling one person to go and do it, or else we’d be winning the unilateral follies of ambition that we now are quagmired in.

    It’s about developing support from multiple points, and having those points help provide leverage. Obama’s still thinking he has to be in the superstar mode. He could do the team approach, let others take the initial heat, and still arrive at the same point, in time.

    That said, a lot of this in Fitz’s hands now. Let’s hope this is just a learning experience for him at limited expense to Americans everywhere, including himself.

  • Mr.Murder

    Keith has Sen.Kennedy saying Barack was against the war.

    I see Obama making statements against not fighting a “smart war” at the time. He did say we should unilateral force.

    Yet Sen.Kennedy(voted in support of AUMF) assures me Obama opposed it.

    In October 2002, Obama told an anti-war rally in Chicago: “I don’t oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war … I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.”

    So, judging by his votes in the Senate, we can assume he’s convinced we’re fighting Iraq and Afghanistan smartly, otherwise he’d oppose it.

    He can hold the vote against anyone else(one person voted against it on record in both Legislative bodies, and 2 Senator, 10 Reps. who voted present).

    To do so he’d have to have voted against the ‘dumb war’ funding Bush is waging. That would be political suicide with soldiers held hostage by Bush policy.

    Didn’t Colin Powell assure Obama that he’d fight the war smartly?

    I take umbrage at the notion he opposed the war, he was actually neutral.

  • kenoshaMarge

    If Obama childishly turned his back on Senator Clinton, while she was graciously shaking hands with the man who had just endorsed her opponent, then it was all Bill Clinton’s fault. Because everything is Bill Clinton’s fault. Unless it’s Hillary fault. Media has hated the Clintons for years and most of the liberal blogs have trotted right along behind them. Zsa Zsa Huffington headlines every negative thing that anyone, anywhere says about the Clintons and fawns over Obama like a love-sick schoolgirl.

    One thing all those Clinton haters might want to think about is that hate, unlike love, is catching. And spewing hate at someone we respect and admire nonstop in order to advance your candidate will backfire. I will vote Green if Obama is the candidate. Mr. Hope-A-Dope never impressed me and now his surrogates and supporters have enraged me. Not smart to alienate voters you might need later, is it?

  • Mr.Murder

    When Barack Obama was a state legislator running for the U.S. Senate in Illinois in 2003 opposition to the war in Iraq was extremely popular in African American communities and among the progressive voters he needed in order to win. Brother Obama was on the case, doing what he had to do to sew up that vote early, showing up at local antiwar meetings and rallies, and making speeches like the one opposing “a dumb war” which is now trotted out as evidence of his fervent and prescient antiwar stand.

    Bush invaded Iraq in March 2003, and by late May declared “mission accomplished” and victory in “the battle of Iraq” from the deck of the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln. With the president riding high in national polls, this reporter checked Obama’s campaign web site and noted that all the evidence of and references to candidate Obama’s prior opposition to the invasion of Iraq had been deleted. The visionary Barack Obama appeared to be leaning rightward with the prevailing wind, distancing himself from his prior opposition to the war.

    After calls to Obama’s campaign office yielded no satisfactory answers, we published an article in the June 5, 2003 issue of Black Commentator effectively calling Barack Obama out. We drew attention to the disappearance of any indication that U.S. Senate candidate Obama opposed the Iraq war at all from his web site and public statements. We noted with consternation that the Democratic Leadership Council, the right wing Trojan Horse inside the Democratic party, had apparently vetted and approved Obama, naming him as one of its “100 to Watch” that season. This is what real journalists are supposed to do — fact check candidates, investigate the facts, tell the truth to audiences and hold the little clay feet of politicians and corporations to the fire.

    Facing the possible erosion of his base among progressive Democrats in Illinois, Obama contacted us. We printed his response in Black Commentator’s June 19 issue and queried the candidate on three “bright line” issues that clearly distinguish between corporate-funded DLC Democrats and authentic progressives. We concluded the dialog by printing Obama’s response on June 26, 2003. For the convenience of our readers in 2007, all three of these articles can be found here.
    http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=468&Itemid=34
    Four years after senatorial candidate Barack Obama had to be summoned back into open opposition to the war in Iraq, scant weeks after his admission that he would not bring the troops home before the end of 2013, and in the face of dozens of public statements between 2003 and the present advocating an extra hundred thousand bodies to the Army and Marines, a higher Pentagon budget than even Bush is asking for, and the bombing of Iran and Pakistan, history has been rewritten to make Obama an early, consistent and principled voice for peace.
    This history is written, of course, by the same media that sold us the lies which enabled the war to begin with.

    http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/12/388346.html
    by BAR Managing Editor Bruce Dixon
    The man is quite impassioned about the topic. unfortunately he doesn’t cross link his items, you can can still google most of the phrases up.

    He’s got some amazing insight to Obama, as a the hopeful future triangulator in chief.

    He is pretty much diagnosing Obama as a DLC amnesiac.

    He quotes DLC literature, which mirrors Obama’s own approach, though Barack later issued a disclaimer directly to the writer.

    Barack Obama is listed in the DLC/New Democrats directory of local elected officials, and was featured in its 100 Democratic Leaders to Watch in 2003. It would be a shame if he is in the process of becoming “ideologically freed” from the opinions of the African American and other Democrats whose votes he needs to win.

    Here is the insight of the DLC:

    The DLC/New Democrat position is identical to that of the White House, “free” and scornful of all opposition voices. Here we have it the words of DLC founder Al From.

    ” … Democrats must overcome both their own and the opposition’s partisan instincts, and act in the national interest. The president’s decision to prosecute this war without explicit authorization from the United Nations was a close call, but it was the right call.
    ” … Iraq is clearly involved in both the quest for weapons of mass destruction and in fomenting anti-Western terrorism, whether or not there are direct links between Baghdad and Al Qaeda. The risks of war are eclipsed by the risk of tolerating a conjunction between terrorists and weapons of mass destruction, in a country ruled by a bitter enemy of America, and in the most volatile region of the world.”

    The articles occur after the war, and aren’t really filled with strident objections to the war, based on contact with his office.

    There are several phases of policy he seems to have adhered, falling prey to the mission accomplished state in removing the reference then from his website.

    Keep in mind this is a writer with a background of political activism, opposition to conflict, and personal involvement with voter registration.

    He has some very good background on Obama, who helped Carol Moseley get to the Senate, and he also helped Bill Clinton with a ’92 Presidential campaign with his efforts in that state.

    I’m pretty confident if you read that you’ll confirm your previous belief for or against, since he’s done policy tightwires across dual narratives.

    The writing is quite good, an impassioned skeptic is the best measure of things. He’s got every reason to want to believe in the energy and enthusiasm, and still tempers this with a critical lens.

    It would be nice to see his role in media elevated in any case, maybe visits to his site will help that. His opinion now would also be valued in regards to how it has or has not changed past his 2008 posting of these archives.

    His concerns for the candidate may be mirrored elsewhere.

  • bob h

    On the pro-Obama blogs, the interpretation is that he had already turned away and did not see Hillary’s outstretched hand.

    Meanwhile, the news tonight is going to be of a Hillary win in Florida. She is going to spin this as significant, and I wonder whether it will dissipate some of Obama’s S. Carolina/Teddy momentum.

    • Cee

      LOL! Is there anyone on this blog who shakes hands with people they no longer like?

      I know I don’t. I’ve been in public and I’ve had to tell people under my breath not to extend their hand so I wouldn’t have to embarass them.

      So, Barak turned his back! The whining is killing me.

      • shirin

        It is very rude to refuse to shake an extended hand, and should embarrass the one who refuses, not the one who is refused.

        • Cee

          Shirin,

          Both would be embarassed. Still, Obama was right to turn away before she extended her hand.

          I did read that they had greeted one another before this thing started so here we are…talking about another non-issue.

          Do the people who are critical of Obama think he’s a saint?

          • Shirin

            Obama was right to rudely refuse (if, in fact, that IS what happened), in a very, very public and very visible situation, to shake the hand of a colleague, a fellow party member, and a political opponent – and someone he will have to work with in the future?!!!!! Is this American culture?! Because that kind of behaviour would be completely inexcusable and would create a huge scandal in Iraqi culture.

            Well, there ya go – clash of cultures, I guess. Maybe I DON’T understand American culture, after all.

            • Cee

              Yes, he had a right to try to not shake her hand.
              But it doesn’t matter. It didn’t happen the way that we assumed it did.

              From NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan and Domenico Montanaro
              On Obama’s campaign plane, he answered questions about the “snub” moment from the State of the Union and Florida’s relevance, or lack there of, in this nominating process.

              He said he was “surprised” about the photo and how his apparent turning away from Clinton was being characterized.

              “I was turning away because Claire [McCaskill] asked me a question, as Senator Kennedy was reaching for her [Clinton],” Obama said. “And senator Clinton and I have had very cordial relations on the floor and off the floor; I waved at her as we were coming into the Senate chamber before we walked over. I think there’s a lot more tea leaf reading going on here than I think people are suggesting.”

              McCaskill was on the plane with Obama to back up his alibi, and she scolded the press for reading something into nothing.

              “It was not a snub,” she emphatically declared. “It was one of those accidents. Frankly everyone’s spoiling for a fight, which is the politics of old, you know this thing isn’t the politics of old. Its about new. It’s unfortunate that everyone is so anxious for there to be problem on a personal level and I gotta tell yah, its just not there.

              ————————————————————————————————————————–

              Can’t win? Break the rules.

              On Florida and Clinton saying she would reinstate Florida’s delegates… the Democratic National Committee told First Read months ago that any eventual nominee would likely work with a credentialing committee to seat a non-voting Florida delegation.

              http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/29/618263.aspx

    • shirin

      On the pro-Obama blogs, the interpretation is that he had already turned away and did not see Hillary’s outstretched hand.

      That seems perfectly plausible – at least as plausible as the assumption – blatantly self-serving for the “Obama sucks/Hillary rocks” crowd around here – that he was stupid enough to very publicly refuse to shake her hand.

      It’s all pretty petty and shameful on both sides, really.

  • Mr.Murder

    Rep. Jesse L. Jackson Jr. (D-Chicago), perhaps Obama’s most prominent supporter among local elected officials, knows well the power of passion in the political process.

    You think perhaps Bill Clinton was alluding to such a connection, that the energy and some of the persons who helped him(Jackson) win there, were still in play for that state when Sen.Obama won? That his son Jesse L. Jackson Jr. often works with matters in Illinois State from the Rep. to Sen. perspective for their offices in the US Congress?

    How many of the reporters were familiar enough with the background to say so?

    Perhaps Chicago papers could note it, but there’s so much trouble around Rezko that there’s no room for other topics up front.

  • Mr.Murder

    Florida is interesting because you cannot run commercials there thanks to the DLC/DNC.

    The critic above notes Sen.Obama’s careful dual existence for DLC and not-DLC, how can he obligate both?

    He’s buying national commercials in violation of understandings now as well to reach the state.

    For Florida you have to be in the state, making appearance that will generate publicity. Can’t just saturate it, you have got to know the tack of the political map.

    Sen.Kennedy can help there for certain but this should be where Sen.Clinton can separate based on her organization.

  • Cee

    Susan,

    I counted the word freedom eight times. Hic!

    Mr. Murder,

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Auchi has ties to Marc Rich. Follow the breadcrumbs.

  • Bill Keyes

    Sorry to be OT, that is the daily Obama trashing so most of you might not want to read this because there is no Obama dirt in it and also you think here comes that crazy ass Bill Keyes with more gloom and doom, but amazingly what follows will not be a single word by me but it sums up in an amazing way a totally new take on what, as the writer calls it, Bush extremism.

    Anyway I am tired of fighting and trying to make a points about what I feel are the most important issues of the day on this blog, when this blog has indeed turned into what the first poster called it,

    a bizarre, quasi-tabloid, freakishly obsessive anti-Obama web site.

    because I am not going to lower myself into the fracas of this useless daily Obama trashing.

    Therefore this may be my last post unless something changes. I may read here occasionaly to see what CEE, hoosier hoops, teakwoodkite and others are saying but it well may they will go somewhere else as
    well.

    So to paraphrase Tricky Dick you may still have Obama around to kick but you wont have ol crazy gloom and doom Bill Keyes.

    We’re all low-information voters, now. occasion
    by Kagro X
    Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 04:27:41 PM PST

    One of the most popular self-conceptions of avid
    blog readers is that we’re “high-informationvoters,” that is, that we immerse ourselves in the
    day-to-day political developments reported in the

    traditional media, as well as the discussion and
    analysis that takes place in the blogosphere. We
    actively make ourselves aware of what’s happening in
    the political world, and make our voting decisions
    based on our own internal analyses of this
    tremendous volume and flow of information.

    When it comes to evaluating the legacy of the George
    W. Bush “administration,” for instance, we’re all
    too well aware of the dark record, even if the
    traditional media have been less than dogged in its
    daily pursuit of the accumulated weight of Bush’s
    departures from our traditional understandings of
    the constitutional order and that nebulous metric,
    “The American Way.”
    Consider what we’ve witnessed over the years:

    the emergence of the use of torture

    secret prisons

    indefinite detention

    the denial of habeas corpus

    warrantless eavesdropping

    illegal domestic spying

    the politicization of the administration of criminal
    justice and of civil rights

    the claimed unilateral nullification of enacted
    legislation

    the claim that the failure by the president to
    comply with Executive Orders amounts to a secret and
    unwritten revocation or revision of such orders

    dictation of the terms of legislation by the
    president to Congress

    dictation of the terms of appropriations bills
    (heretofore known as the “power of the purse” by the
    president to Congress

    the declaration that federal judges are incompetent
    to rule on questions touching on “national security”

    the refusal of the “unitary executive” to permit the
    other branches to test its claims of “executive
    privilege”

    the refusal of the Justice Department to prosecute
    contempt of Congress charges against executive
    branch officials

    the staggering increase in the frequency of use of
    the “state secrets” privilege to block access to the
    courts

    the systematic suppression of scientific evidence
    regarding “administration” policies through the
    manipulation of administrative procedure

    And of course, much, much more that I’m probably
    missing in my off the cuff recitation.

    But the point of that recitation is this: the
    current “administration’s” penchant for secrecy and
    for pushing all limits on the separation of powers
    in every conceivable direction to the breaking point
    has made us all low-information voters, no matter
    how hard we try to stay current with the news.

    How so? Well, in November of this year, we’ll all be
    asked to cast our ballots to elect the 44th
    President of the United States, as well as the new
    111th Congress. And while we’ve all diligently
    studied the issues, candidate positions and other
    information available, what we don’t know — and it
    has been the design of the Bush “administration” not
    to let us know — is the actual job descriptions for
    the offices we’ll be asked to help fill in November.

    Is Barack Obama the best person for the job? Hillary
    Clinton? John Edwards? Or for that matter, Mitt
    Romney or John McCain? How about Nancy Pelosi? Dan
    Mark Pera? [correction: 3 a.m. writing -- Mark Pera,
    who's running against incumbent Blue Dog Dem Dan
    Lipinski in IL-03] Tom Allen? Mark Warner?

    The fact is that the information we have access to
    sheds light on what kind of track record and vision
    for the future these candidates bring to the table,
    but may no longer be accurate indicators of what
    they’ll be able to do if they win election.

    Are the people we elect to Congress going to have
    the “power of the purse?”

    Is the president we elect going to have the power to
    unilaterally nullify enacted law?

    Will the 111th Congress have the “subpoena power” we
    were assured that the 110th would have, but didn’t?

    That’s has been the design of the Bush
    “administration.” To leave us with less
    understanding and less information about how our
    government works. All the better to run roughshod
    over us, while we reel in the confusion and
    disbelief.

    This is a giant step backwards from the
    progressive gains of the post-Watergate era.

    The era that brought us the Federal Elections Commission to combat the influence of unregulated, secret campaign slush funds.

    The era that brought us FISA, to combat
    the use of the national security apparatus to
    monitor, cow and intimidate the domestic political
    opposition.

    The era that brought us the War Powers
    Act (which admittedly might not be considered
    properly “post-Watergate,” depending on how you
    define that), to combat the limitless and unilateral
    use of presidential authority to commit our troops
    to combat and keep them there in the face of
    overwhelming political opposition.

    But that’s where the Bush “administration’s”
    extremism has left us. Instead of asking whether one
    or another of the candidates is the best person for
    the job, we have to step much further back, and ask,
    “what’s the job?”

    The extent of that damage is almost beyond
    comprehension.

    • Cee

      Bill,

      Did you see that John Negroponte has thrown people under the bus by admitting that the US has used waterboarding?

      • Shirin

        Like everyone hasn’t known all along that the U.S. has used waterboarding?! Negroponte was hardly the first one to admit it, was he? Just one more in a long line of admitted criminals.

    • http://www.evergreenpolitics.com shoephone

      Bill – In the event that you do hang around (which I hope you will) could you please respect Fair Use of published materials and not reprint the entire piece, but just a few paragraphs with a link?

      • Bill Keyes

        It did not have a link but the nit picking point is appreciated even if you got nothing out of the article.

        I’m outta here!

  • Mr.Murder

    So knowing Marc Rich all of a year equals Rezko’s seventeen years?

    Was Marc Rich the number one contributor to the Clintons?

    Obama said he knew Rezko for “five hours” and that was it. That’s not even a good liar. He admits later he knew the man longer.

    • Cee

      Mr. Murder,

      He contributed via his wife.

      Marc Rich’s socialite ex-wife has donated an estimated $1 million to Democratic causes, including $70,000 to Hillary Clinton’s successful Senate campaign and $450,000 to the Clinton presidential library fund. She also lobbied heavily for Marc’s pardon. Investigators want to know if Denise’s contributions led to a direct quid pro quo exchange for her ex-husband’s pardon. Clinton has denied any connection, saying he relied solely on the information provided by Jack Quinn (former White House counsel and Rich’s current lawyer) when he was weighing the pardon request.

      http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,99302,00.html

      Obama billed the lawfirm for five hours of work from what I understand. That hardly means that he didn’t know the man longer.

      Anyway…follow the breadcrumbs to everyone.

      • norris morris

        Mr Murder,

        please go to NYTimes online story 3/07 re: Obama’a stock deals made exactly like his donors, and then attempting to pass legislation [as US Senator]. It’s quite a story since Obama has made ethics a key issue in his campaign.

        The Nation carried this info:Wall Street has contributed nearly $10million as of 3/07, and Goldman Sachs made $6 billion from devalued mortgage securities in first 9 months of ’07
        is Obama’s top contributor. When asked if he
        would hold these institutions accountable for homeoner losses and investors, his campaign refused to commment.

        He lied in earier debate when he stated all of his contributions were from little guy who contributes in small amounts. He conveniently forgot to mention that he’s received nearly 10 million$$ from finance,insurance, and real estate, and commercial banks. These were not small internet contrubutions.

      • norris morris

        About the five hours of work. Does it strike you as logical that a 17 year friendship or alliance with your then major donor whose subsidized slums to be rehabbed [11 in obama district] would go
        unoticed when they all were cited for lack of heat,repairs, and allowed to slide into bankruptcy because of withheld mortgage payments and neglect?. The subsidies[millions] what happened?

        Everyone knew, and regarding Obama’s constituents he said, “they may have complained, but staff didn’t pass this along”. UhHuh. A state senator with constituents in South Side rehabs for 8 years as their watchdog doesn’t know how the buildings owned by his donor are being cared for? This was a very important part of his job as these were obtained with help from his law firm. Legislative and technical data re these matters would come up in State district they applied to. The papers were full of complaints regarding a total shutdown of heat for over 2 weeks.City sued. Rezko only had to pay $100 fine.

        Now the Chicago papers had these stories of foreclosed Rezko properties and his investigation for fraud conducted by Libby prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald was also noted. Even though Obama
        knew, this he allowed Rezko and wife to arrange a non kosher sweetheart real estate that he profited by as a result of Rezko’s “largess”.

        If nothing else, he proceeded to allow this personally beneficial deal to occur which at the least makes him appear unwise and greedy. Rezko was indicted, and his trial is slated for this 2/25/08. However, Rezko has just been arrested and is being held as he lied about his finances to the court, and ties to Iraq money deals are involved. Someone in Illinois State Legislature had arranged for a passport for Rezko’s co-felon who is now in Iraq.

        Now from the beginning of these articles in the
        SunTimes, reporters asked his campaign for Obama to comment on questions, etc. He just said that he made a boneheaded decision and it was a mistake.
        No answers were given ecxept that he only worked 5 hours.

        If Obama wants to put this to rest he needs to be specific, and obtain copies of his legislative votes and issues/duties covered during 8 year period. He says he doesn’t have these as he never thought they’d be relevant, and would be too costly to retrieve and take too much time.

        This leaves many questions unanswered and if he
        wants to put this all to rest he should reveal his Illinois record and answer questions directly.

        Go to: suntimes.com and see Rezko and Obama archives

      • simon

        So, is Rich connected to Rezko’s London man?

        The difference to me, being Rezko sought out Obama quite early, and is an integral part of Obama’s political life, ie his “political godfather.”

        The implications are disturbing, how was Obama brought to Rezko’s attnetion?

        Clinton, OTOH, has not colluded with the Rich’s, at least not in the same manner Obama has with Rezko.

        If they’ve both been knowingly financed by this “ring,” though, they should be vetted to the full extent of the law, as should all corrupt American politicians. This is the same group, according to Sybil Emonds info, connected to the 9.11 funding.

        Edwards is looking better and better…

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  • TeakwoodKite

    Bill:

    Thirty spokes share the wheel’s hub;
    It is the center hole that makes it useful.
    Shape clay into a vessel;
    It is the space within that makes it useful.
    Cut doors and windows for a room;
    It is the holes which make it useful.
    Therefore benefit comes from what is there;
    Usefulness from what is not there.

    Lao Tzu.

  • Lukeness

    I’m not buyin’ it… for me the important story of the evening was Sen. Clinton giving a standing ovation to Bush’s lie that the surge was a success. Who is she kidding?

    • Shirin

      She DID?!! My god!

      But that is true to form. Until a year or so ago Hillary was a very strong supporter of the invasion (she helped to sell it for heaven’s sake – just listen to some of her remarks at the time), of continuing the occupation – she would not support setting a withdrawal timeline – and of The Surge™. She only started to change her tune when it became clear that she had to if she wanted a chance at the nomination. I suppose being booed for some of her remarks on Iraq by supporters attending her own rallies probably inspired her to make different kinds of noises about Iraq, too.

      Before that she was a strong supporter of continuing the sanctions all during her husband’s eight years in office – you know, those sanctions that resulted in the deaths of at least half a million Iraqi children under five years (and that does not count the hundreds of thousands children over five years, adults, and elderly Iraqis who were killed by those sanctions she supported). She supported his policy of regime-change-via-starvation-of-the-population, which included extreme deprivation of basic human necessities, and regular bombings, including some bombings of civilian centers. So, why shouldn’t she have supported Bush’s continuation of the regime-change-and-to-hell-with-the-Iraqi-people policy she supported for the eight years before Bush?

      And, after all, since she was a big supporter of The Surge™ from the beginning, she would look weak (or something) if she took a realistic look at it now.

      • simon

        Obama makes brave decisions, after the fact, from his living room couch, catching the wave of the group he intends to swindle, ie astroturf progressives…

        Get real.

        • Shirin

          Oh, come on! That is a very silly argument. Obama’s liabilities do not magically turn Hillary’s liabilities into assets, nor vice versa.

          Scott Ritter calls this “the silly season”, and he is right.

  • Elena

    I’d support hillary. Love her smile and her confidence. She always has a positive attitude and that is what makes her outstanding. Everytime I signed in the site ***BlackCentury.com*** and some men were talking her and said she is attractive.