Comments on: MoveOn.org, The Great Enabler http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/ Fri, 25 May 2012 00:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: SirScud http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-137286 SirScud Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:28:28 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-137286 Obsessively promoting H. Clinton is one thing, but making up nasty little pieces of disinformation about the work of others who have simply made a different political choice, is too Rovian to ignore. In the name of truth, what is your source for this closet innuendo: <blockquote>MoveOn’s not in touch with reality. Isn’t it run by a bunch of Silicon Valley millionaires? What do they know about real life and real politics?</blockquote> On the slim chance that your poisoned little mind is interested in an actual fact regarding Move-On's founders and staff; it is not now, nor has it ever been "run" by anyone in or of Silicon Valley. Good luck with your "Lee Atwater" stategy of slander, slime, and misinformation, it really seems to be working well in the recent primaries. You don't mind if us naive Progressives quote some of your material in one of our ads, do ya? Especially that Kenya story! Hell,that one is right out of Ann Coulter's play book. I'll show you my picture of the Clinton's posing with "Obama's Bagman" at a fundraiser, if you show me proof of any of your musings about Move-On. Obsessively promoting H. Clinton is one thing, but making up nasty little pieces of disinformation about the work of others who have simply made a different political choice, is too Rovian to ignore.
In the name of truth, what is your source for this closet innuendo:

MoveOn’s not in touch with reality. Isn’t it run by a bunch of Silicon Valley millionaires? What do they know about real life and real politics?

On the slim chance that your poisoned little mind is interested in an actual fact regarding Move-On’s founders and staff; it is not now, nor has it ever been “run” by anyone in or of Silicon Valley.
Good luck with your “Lee Atwater” stategy of slander, slime, and misinformation, it really seems to be working well in the recent primaries.
You don’t mind if us naive Progressives quote some of your material in one of our ads, do ya?
Especially that Kenya story! Hell,that one is right out of Ann Coulter’s play book. I’ll show you my picture of the Clinton’s posing with “Obama’s Bagman” at a fundraiser, if you show me proof of any of your musings about Move-On.

]]> By: chris http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124937 chris Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:43:53 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124937 "They Can Say ANything They Want" Fine, and I can work to expose them as a fraud. And what is the use of you being a member if they don't speak for you? I wouldn't want to be a member of their organization if they supported David Duke. I don't care what they stood for, just that they are acting fraudulently. They claim they will only endorse with a 2/3s and that didn't happen. They show that 10% responded and then posted the results. Poor planning and fraudulent presentation. Next? If you have a blood pressure problem reading posts, I'd avoid the net, and see a doc. “They Can Say ANything They Want”
Fine, and I can work to expose them as a fraud.

And what is the use of you being a member if they don’t speak for you? I wouldn’t want to be a member of their organization if they supported David Duke.

I don’t care what they stood for, just that they are acting fraudulently. They claim they will only endorse with a 2/3s and that didn’t happen. They show that 10% responded and then posted the results. Poor planning and fraudulent presentation.

Next? If you have a blood pressure problem reading posts, I’d avoid the net, and see a doc.

]]> By: anatol http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124813 anatol Mon, 04 Feb 2008 03:30:47 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124813 Larry, What happened to the copy of your post on TPMCafe? Its not there any longer. Is this a technical glitch or an act of censorship? Thanks, --Anatol Larry,

What happened to the copy of your post on TPMCafe? Its not there any longer. Is this a technical glitch or an act of censorship?

Thanks,

–Anatol

]]> By: Carolyn Kay http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124595 Carolyn Kay Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:25:36 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124595 Chris, how's this for addressing what's important? We Illinois progressives sent Obama to the U.S. Senate, where he promptly joined the Joe Lieberman wing of the Democratic Party. http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/01/national-journal-rates-obama-1-liberal-senator/ His economic advisors are very conservative, from the University of Chicago-Milton Friedman school of economics. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080211/fraser My favorite economist, Paul Krugman, caught Obama using right-wing talking points on what to do about Social Security http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/16/opinion/16krugman.html and about his health care plan. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/30/opinion/30krugman.html And his chief political adviser is a Daley machine strategist. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/magazine/01axelrod.t.html I'm not saying that Clinton is perfect, but I am saying that her proposals are more progressive than Obama's. And that's why I'll be voting for her on Tuesday. Carolyn Kay MakeThemAccountable.com Chris, how’s this for addressing what’s important?

We Illinois progressives sent Obama to the U.S. Senate, where he promptly joined the Joe Lieberman wing of the Democratic Party.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/01/national-journal-rates-obama-1-liberal-senator/

His economic advisors are very conservative, from the University of Chicago-Milton Friedman school of economics.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080211/fraser

My favorite economist, Paul Krugman, caught Obama using right-wing talking points on what to do about Social Security
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/16/opinion/16krugman.html

and about his health care plan.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/30/opinion/30krugman.html

And his chief political adviser is a Daley machine strategist.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/magazine/01axelrod.t.html

I’m not saying that Clinton is perfect, but I am saying that her proposals are more progressive than Obama’s. And that’s why I’ll be voting for her on Tuesday.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

]]> By: Donovan Fraser http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124541 Donovan Fraser Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:58:24 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124541 I am a member of Moveon.org but they don't speak for me. It's just a blog. they can SAY anything they want. that doesn't mean its true. getting upset is just driving our blood pressure up for no reason. I am just saying , take everything with a grain of salt. I am a member of Moveon.org but they don’t speak for me. It’s just a blog. they can SAY anything they want. that doesn’t mean its true. getting upset is just driving our blood pressure up for no reason. I am just saying , take everything with a grain of salt.

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]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124320 TeakWoodKite Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:57:44 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124320 Did you see the landing just like your intructor described on the news tonight, outside Trinidad,Brazil? All souls walked a way. Amazing. Did you see the landing just like your intructor described on the news tonight, outside Trinidad,Brazil? All souls walked a way. Amazing.

]]> By: Retired http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124300 Retired Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:13:32 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124300 It appears that in Move On's twisted perspective, there is no better way to "move on from the Lewinsky thing" than to move on from the Clintons themselves, both of them. Hey, they don't want your opinion. They just want your money. What was your credit card number, again? It appears that in Move On’s twisted perspective, there is no better way to “move on from the Lewinsky thing” than to move on from the Clintons themselves, both of them. Hey, they don’t want your opinion. They just want your money. What was your credit card number, again?

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124241 TeakWoodKite Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:47:50 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124241 <em>In the spirit if my old flight instructor</em> Thanks. Mine said "don't let go on approach", which happened to him when a student let go at 250ft. freaking out. He switched to Jim Beam as well. In the spirit if my old flight instructor Thanks.
Mine said “don’t let go on approach”, which happened to him when a student let go at 250ft. freaking out. He switched to Jim Beam as well.

]]> By: Fred C. Dobbs http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124232 Fred C. Dobbs Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:31:15 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124232 This is an up shot of a pseudo-philosophocal discussion (and poker game) wherein the question was asked: Is the American model of humor possible other than at the expense of others? The answer was, No. In the spirit if my old flight instructor, whose advice was: "In the event of an emergency landing, endeavor to hit the lowest, softest, cheapest thing available, and hit it as slowly as possible," we positied that the smallest possible identifiable ethno/racial/religious group in America (besides Amblyopic Lithuanian Ba'hais, who have little humor value) would be Left-Handed, Albino Zoroastrians. We adjusted our stock jokes and anecdotes accordingly. Fortunately for our careers and the children we all wound up spending our weekends with, we stopped smoking that stuff and switched to Jim Beam. This is an up shot of a pseudo-philosophocal discussion (and poker game) wherein the question was asked: Is the American model of humor possible other than at the expense of others?

The answer was, No.

In the spirit if my old flight instructor, whose advice was: “In the event of an emergency landing, endeavor to hit the lowest, softest, cheapest thing available, and hit it as slowly as possible,” we positied that the smallest possible identifiable ethno/racial/religious group in America (besides Amblyopic Lithuanian Ba’hais, who have little humor value) would be Left-Handed, Albino Zoroastrians.

We adjusted our stock jokes and anecdotes accordingly.

Fortunately for our careers and the children we all wound up spending our weekends with, we stopped smoking that stuff and switched to Jim Beam.

]]> By: Dream http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124097 Dream Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:14:40 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124097 I have been with MoveOn from their first days, but I wrote and told MoveOn to take me off their list. I am totally disgusted with this divisive action of theirs; it can only hurt the Democrats in Nov. I have been with MoveOn from their first days, but I wrote and told MoveOn to take me off their list.

I am totally disgusted with this divisive action of theirs; it can only hurt the Democrats in Nov.

]]> By: Gwen http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124078 Gwen Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:49:47 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124078 Obama was sitting in his arm chair in Illinois when the U.S. Senators voted on the Iraq Resolution. He was not there in Washington on the hotseat with the other elected Senators so it is easy for him to sit back and say that he wouldn't have voted for it. B.S. There is no opportunity to vote "present" in the Senate--you have to make a decision and live by it. Obama was sitting in his arm chair in Illinois when the U.S. Senators voted on the Iraq Resolution. He was not there in Washington on the hotseat with the other elected Senators so it is easy for him to sit back and say that he wouldn’t have voted for it. B.S. There is no opportunity to vote “present” in the Senate–you have to make a decision and live by it.

]]> By: chris http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124065 chris Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:34:28 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124065 You've missed the point of many comments here Donovan. Right to an opinion, and a right to commit fraud are not mutual. If MoveOn.org claims 3.2 million people as members...and they are claiming to have a "endorsed" based on members, but 91.2% members didn't vote... Then the NewsPapers....they pick it up and say... "Barack Obama's progressive creditials were lent credibility by the endorsement of influential Leftist Pressure Organization, MoveOn.org. MoveOn claims 3.2 million members." I really wish commenters around here would spend less time impugning the motivations of people who are pointing out the flaws with MoveOn, Obama, Clinton or other and deal with the substance. If MoveOn is creating an illusion that they have 3.2 million users...then that illusion should be dispelled. If MoveOn polled an insignificant base and then made it look significant, that is fraud. "LET'S BE FOR REAL" Thats what this blog is attempting to do, and you're missing the tune. IGNORE THAT IT ENDORSES OBAMA, and notice that it is a fraud. You’ve missed the point of many comments here Donovan. Right to an opinion, and a right to commit fraud are not mutual.

If MoveOn.org claims 3.2 million people as members…and they are claiming to have a “endorsed” based on members, but 91.2% members didn’t vote…
Then the NewsPapers….they pick it up and say…
“Barack Obama’s progressive creditials were lent credibility by the endorsement of influential Leftist Pressure Organization, MoveOn.org. MoveOn claims 3.2 million members.”

I really wish commenters around here would spend less time impugning the motivations of people who are pointing out the flaws with MoveOn, Obama, Clinton or other and deal with the substance.

If MoveOn is creating an illusion that they have 3.2 million users…then that illusion should be dispelled.
If MoveOn polled an insignificant base and then made it look significant, that is fraud.

“LET’S BE FOR REAL”
Thats what this blog is attempting to do, and you’re missing the tune.

IGNORE THAT IT ENDORSES OBAMA, and notice that it is a fraud.

]]> By: chris http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124058 chris Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:28:04 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124058 uh...hows that? uh…hows that?

]]> By: Make Them Accountable / Media http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1448/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124055 Make Them Accountable / Media Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:25:26 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/moveonorg-the-great-enabler/#comment-124055 [...] BETRAYS US: MoveOn.org, The Great Enabler (by Larry Johnson at No Quarter) If you are starved for comedy look no further than [Friday’s] [...] [...] BETRAYS US: MoveOn.org, The Great Enabler (by Larry Johnson at No Quarter) If you are starved for comedy look no further than [Friday’s] [...]

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