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		<title>By: American Girl in Italy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14491/holy-sugar-open-thread/#comment-1144493</link>
		<dc:creator>American Girl in Italy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep watching that. It seems to be gaining some traction, but then not. Who knows. All I know, is I am ticked off that they waste their time on these stupid issues. This one, and the no term limits for President, and who knows what else. They should be fined for wasting their time on stupid bills like these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep watching that. It seems to be gaining some traction, but then not. Who knows. All I know, is I am ticked off that they waste their time on these stupid issues. This one, and the no term limits for President, and who knows what else. They should be fined for wasting their time on stupid bills like these.</p>
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		<title>By: American Girl in Italy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14491/holy-sugar-open-thread/#comment-1144489</link>
		<dc:creator>American Girl in Italy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unfortunately that isn&#039;t the only sugar i was getting. :O) BUt, I figured every little bit helps. I would rather have gelato, and forego the sugar in my latte!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unfortunately that isn&#8217;t the only sugar i was getting. :O) BUt, I figured every little bit helps. I would rather have gelato, and forego the sugar in my latte!</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Moss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seattle Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Open thread comment..
I want to congratulate all the NQ posters for their vigilance in opposing the fairness doctrine
Because we and others have spoken out on this issue obama has backed off on trying to reinforce this doctrine.
Let&#039;s keep the pressure on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open thread comment..<br />
I want to congratulate all the NQ posters for their vigilance in opposing the fairness doctrine<br />
Because we and others have spoken out on this issue obama has backed off on trying to reinforce this doctrine.<br />
Let&#8217;s keep the pressure on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Animal Control</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14491/holy-sugar-open-thread/#comment-1144451</link>
		<dc:creator>Animal Control</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlo Gambino used to drink about 14 espresso&#039;s a day and i&#039;m sure it had sugar and he lived into his 90&#039;s.  All kidding aside, if that&#039;s all the sugar you get your&#039;e ahead of the game. It&#039;s not the sugar we use it&#039;s what already in the food we buy that the culprit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlo Gambino used to drink about 14 espresso&#8217;s a day and i&#8217;m sure it had sugar and he lived into his 90&#8242;s.  All kidding aside, if that&#8217;s all the sugar you get your&#8217;e ahead of the game. It&#8217;s not the sugar we use it&#8217;s what already in the food we buy that the culprit.</p>
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		<title>By: American Girl in Italy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14491/holy-sugar-open-thread/#comment-1144433</link>
		<dc:creator>American Girl in Italy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mccdonalds is cheap, but I don&#039;t think junk food in grocery stores is cheap! it is much cheaper to buy fresh fruit and veggies then fritos and doritos, and ding dongs! 

and it is not ok that poor people have to live off crap junk food, and develop health problems because junk food is cheaper... 

where do people live that they have access to junk food, but not a grocery store? (serisously, I&#039;m asking. There are places that the closest access to real food is two hours away?) 

perhaps if there was a demand for convenience stores to carry some groceries, and not just mountain dew and cheetos, these people would be better off. I think if neighbors joined a task force they could get their local convenience store to stock frozen veggies, and some other real foods. Also, perhaps people who live far out of the city should have gardens. I would LOVE to have a garden, and grow my own veggies.

I just don&#039;t accept the argument that we have to not tax junk food because poor people live on it. there is so much wrong with that premise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mccdonalds is cheap, but I don&#8217;t think junk food in grocery stores is cheap! it is much cheaper to buy fresh fruit and veggies then fritos and doritos, and ding dongs! </p>
<p>and it is not ok that poor people have to live off crap junk food, and develop health problems because junk food is cheaper&#8230; </p>
<p>where do people live that they have access to junk food, but not a grocery store? (serisously, I&#8217;m asking. There are places that the closest access to real food is two hours away?) </p>
<p>perhaps if there was a demand for convenience stores to carry some groceries, and not just mountain dew and cheetos, these people would be better off. I think if neighbors joined a task force they could get their local convenience store to stock frozen veggies, and some other real foods. Also, perhaps people who live far out of the city should have gardens. I would LOVE to have a garden, and grow my own veggies.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t accept the argument that we have to not tax junk food because poor people live on it. there is so much wrong with that premise.</p>
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		<title>By: trixta</title>
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		<dc:creator>trixta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a vegetarian then a vegan for a stretch of four years and I became very ill for years after that.  Vegetarianism isn&#039;t for everyone.  My health improved after including protein in the form of meat (of all colors) in my diet. I think it&#039;s the carnitine in red meat that is good for you.  But I do believe in moderation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a vegetarian then a vegan for a stretch of four years and I became very ill for years after that.  Vegetarianism isn&#8217;t for everyone.  My health improved after including protein in the form of meat (of all colors) in my diet. I think it&#8217;s the carnitine in red meat that is good for you.  But I do believe in moderation.</p>
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		<title>By: trixta</title>
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		<dc:creator>trixta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great sugar substitute in STEVIA, a natural substance that has few calories and is good for gut flora and fauna.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great sugar substitute in STEVIA, a natural substance that has few calories and is good for gut flora and fauna.</p>
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		<title>By: trixta</title>
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		<dc:creator>trixta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara, I think the food politics on junk food is a bit more complicated than that.  The problem with taxing junk food is that the poor tend to buy this type of cheap food, since they live in areas that do not have grocery stores.  And who can afford (or would want) to take a two-hour bus trip (i.e. round trip) to buy groceries that one can&#039;t afford anyway?  Taxing junk food would hit the poorest among us hardest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara, I think the food politics on junk food is a bit more complicated than that.  The problem with taxing junk food is that the poor tend to buy this type of cheap food, since they live in areas that do not have grocery stores.  And who can afford (or would want) to take a two-hour bus trip (i.e. round trip) to buy groceries that one can&#8217;t afford anyway?  Taxing junk food would hit the poorest among us hardest.</p>
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		<title>By: American Girl in Italy</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Girl in Italy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>isn&#039;t it just awful!! 

I used to drink three espressos a day, and we used real sugar. I was so grossed out one day to realize how much sugar we went through in a month. I now use Dietor. So, just that alone cut out a lot of sugar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isn&#8217;t it just awful!! </p>
<p>I used to drink three espressos a day, and we used real sugar. I was so grossed out one day to realize how much sugar we went through in a month. I now use Dietor. So, just that alone cut out a lot of sugar.</p>
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		<title>By: American Girl in Italy</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Girl in Italy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are motivating me to be more sugar aware, and try to give up most sugar! :OD 

I will see how it goes, and if i have success, i will post an update.

thanks for the info!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are motivating me to be more sugar aware, and try to give up most sugar! :OD </p>
<p>I will see how it goes, and if i have success, i will post an update.</p>
<p>thanks for the info!</p>
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		<title>By: smiles</title>
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		<dc:creator>smiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi sarainitaly,

I didn&#039;t necessarily give up bread. I read the labels on everything and distinctly remember giving up ketchup.  I was surprised that ketchup had sugar in it.  At that time I only looked for the word &quot;sugar&quot; in the ingredients.  If I were to do it again (and maybe not such a bad idea with lent right around the corner), I would look for the words &quot;sugar&quot;, &quot;dextrose&quot;, &quot;sucrose&quot; and all of those other &quot;-oses&quot; and starches.  Yes, my skin did get clearer - no pimples and just the overall size of the pours seemed to get nicer too.  

Another surprise was my temperament.  I was calmer, more balanced and grounded as the days went on.  Also that little tummy pouch/bump in my stomach got a whole lot smaller.  (hmmmm.  I think it&#039;s time to give up sugar again)

To help motivate me I remember printing out a list of how sugar is a poison for the body.  It was a rather long list of all of these horrible things that sugar does to the human body.  

I also gave up red meat years ago because my body had a hard time digesting it.  But an interesting story is what a friend told me when she gave up red meat.  She was living with her boyfriend at the time and she decided to change their diet just to be healthy.  They, as a couple, gave up red meat for a few months.  Then they added it back into their diet.   She noticed that after they added it back in, they argued a lot more and she&#039;s convinced the red meat wasn&#039;t good for their relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi sarainitaly,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t necessarily give up bread. I read the labels on everything and distinctly remember giving up ketchup.  I was surprised that ketchup had sugar in it.  At that time I only looked for the word &#8220;sugar&#8221; in the ingredients.  If I were to do it again (and maybe not such a bad idea with lent right around the corner), I would look for the words &#8220;sugar&#8221;, &#8220;dextrose&#8221;, &#8220;sucrose&#8221; and all of those other &#8220;-oses&#8221; and starches.  Yes, my skin did get clearer &#8211; no pimples and just the overall size of the pours seemed to get nicer too.  </p>
<p>Another surprise was my temperament.  I was calmer, more balanced and grounded as the days went on.  Also that little tummy pouch/bump in my stomach got a whole lot smaller.  (hmmmm.  I think it&#8217;s time to give up sugar again)</p>
<p>To help motivate me I remember printing out a list of how sugar is a poison for the body.  It was a rather long list of all of these horrible things that sugar does to the human body.  </p>
<p>I also gave up red meat years ago because my body had a hard time digesting it.  But an interesting story is what a friend told me when she gave up red meat.  She was living with her boyfriend at the time and she decided to change their diet just to be healthy.  They, as a couple, gave up red meat for a few months.  Then they added it back into their diet.   She noticed that after they added it back in, they argued a lot more and she&#8217;s convinced the red meat wasn&#8217;t good for their relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Anselmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda Anselmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes me nausious just to look at all that sugar.</description>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a believer in real butter - one of the reasons that I don&#039;t buy cookies from the store.  I also use olive oil rather than the corn or canola oils if I can.  Corn and canola are not shelf stable (meaning they will go rancid) at room temperature, so they are treated with hexane to prevent that.  I like to eat things that are close to what they started out as, and those things don&#039;t qualify, in my mind.
  
Don&#039;t believe in all these reduced-fat, reduced sugar things either.  If God didn&#039;t mean for you to eat fat, then why&#039;d he make it taste so good?  I&#039;m not kidding, was it put there to tempt you, or is it essential to your body&#039;s health?  I&#039;m not saying sit down and eat pounds of butter, but fat is not the enemy that they make you believe that it is.  I&#039;ve never bought margarine, don&#039;t cook reduced fat, and don&#039;t have a weight problem and never have.  I use salt in my cooking as well.  Maybe it will all catch up with me in twenty years, who knows, but I think we are all being sold something because there are people who make money off of our fear.

My sister is a big believer in raw milk (meaning unpasteurized).  She has a cow for that purpose, and makes her own cheese, butter, etc. They eat organic, but actually include a lot of different fats in their diets, with very little sugar or processed food.  Her children are seven and four and have never even had antibiotics.  

There are some new sugar substitutes coming out.  I think the one is called something like &quot;Whey low&quot;.  It can be used in baking and doesn&#039;t have any artificial sugars in it, but has a lower glycemic index (so is much less likely to affect blood sugar).  It&#039;s very expensive, apparently, compared to sugar.  I haven&#039;t used it, but have considered it because I really have a hard time eating anything with sugar in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a believer in real butter &#8211; one of the reasons that I don&#8217;t buy cookies from the store.  I also use olive oil rather than the corn or canola oils if I can.  Corn and canola are not shelf stable (meaning they will go rancid) at room temperature, so they are treated with hexane to prevent that.  I like to eat things that are close to what they started out as, and those things don&#8217;t qualify, in my mind.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe in all these reduced-fat, reduced sugar things either.  If God didn&#8217;t mean for you to eat fat, then why&#8217;d he make it taste so good?  I&#8217;m not kidding, was it put there to tempt you, or is it essential to your body&#8217;s health?  I&#8217;m not saying sit down and eat pounds of butter, but fat is not the enemy that they make you believe that it is.  I&#8217;ve never bought margarine, don&#8217;t cook reduced fat, and don&#8217;t have a weight problem and never have.  I use salt in my cooking as well.  Maybe it will all catch up with me in twenty years, who knows, but I think we are all being sold something because there are people who make money off of our fear.</p>
<p>My sister is a big believer in raw milk (meaning unpasteurized).  She has a cow for that purpose, and makes her own cheese, butter, etc. They eat organic, but actually include a lot of different fats in their diets, with very little sugar or processed food.  Her children are seven and four and have never even had antibiotics.  </p>
<p>There are some new sugar substitutes coming out.  I think the one is called something like &#8220;Whey low&#8221;.  It can be used in baking and doesn&#8217;t have any artificial sugars in it, but has a lower glycemic index (so is much less likely to affect blood sugar).  It&#8217;s very expensive, apparently, compared to sugar.  I haven&#8217;t used it, but have considered it because I really have a hard time eating anything with sugar in it.</p>
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		<title>By: sarainitaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarainitaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would much rather have a junk food tax than a food tax. Smokes, alcohol and junk food are ok to tax heavily, in my book. (although, leave wine alone! haha) NY is hurting for money, and sugary sodas aren&#039;t a necessity, and they are bad for you, so I don&#039;t have a problem with them being taxed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would much rather have a junk food tax than a food tax. Smokes, alcohol and junk food are ok to tax heavily, in my book. (although, leave wine alone! haha) NY is hurting for money, and sugary sodas aren&#8217;t a necessity, and they are bad for you, so I don&#8217;t have a problem with them being taxed.</p>
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		<title>By: sarainitaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarainitaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow! your poor friend. 

I don&#039;t drink juice or pop. I do every once in a while have a Coke Zero, but not often. Pops are terrible! I have cut out a lot of bread, but do eat pasta or rice almost every day. But, just a very small portion. And since moving to Italy, I use only real butter, no more margarine. But, I still probably consume more sugar then I should. I use fake sugar for my caffe and lattes. I think I am going to try an experiment, and see how much I eat. I don&#039;t eat all those prepared meals like they showed in the video, but I bet I still consume a good amount. I would love to drop 10 pounds or so!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow! your poor friend. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t drink juice or pop. I do every once in a while have a Coke Zero, but not often. Pops are terrible! I have cut out a lot of bread, but do eat pasta or rice almost every day. But, just a very small portion. And since moving to Italy, I use only real butter, no more margarine. But, I still probably consume more sugar then I should. I use fake sugar for my caffe and lattes. I think I am going to try an experiment, and see how much I eat. I don&#8217;t eat all those prepared meals like they showed in the video, but I bet I still consume a good amount. I would love to drop 10 pounds or so!</p>
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