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		<title>By: Jamie Molina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Molina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;daughter moves around...&lt;/em&gt;funny how that works. Same thing here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>daughter moves around&#8230;</em>funny how that works. Same thing here.</p>
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		<title>By: Delia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed!  My sympathies for the humans involved just went way down.

Another problem human population for animal abandonment are university students.  I live in a university town and there&#039;s a problem here with students adopting cats and then just leaving them when they move out.  When my daughter was in college in another area her roommates picked up a cat that had been dumped at the local pound before it opened in the morning.  None of them would take care of her properly, so my daughter took her when she moved.  Then I ended up with her (the cat) b/c daughter moves around too much to give an animal a stable home right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed!  My sympathies for the humans involved just went way down.</p>
<p>Another problem human population for animal abandonment are university students.  I live in a university town and there&#8217;s a problem here with students adopting cats and then just leaving them when they move out.  When my daughter was in college in another area her roommates picked up a cat that had been dumped at the local pound before it opened in the morning.  None of them would take care of her properly, so my daughter took her when she moved.  Then I ended up with her (the cat) b/c daughter moves around too much to give an animal a stable home right now.</p>
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		<title>By: ybnormal</title>
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		<dc:creator>ybnormal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His name is Brindle, because of his color.
Not terribly original, but only two syllables.

I&#039;ve also noticed some possible left-over reactionary behaviour.   Not extreme, and I don&#039;t know his history, but he still gets a little freaky when I reach for the top of his head.  He prefers back petting.

Very athletic and very fast and agile with long endurance.  My biggest challenge is getting him tired.  Looks like a bigger heavier version of a greyhound (roughly 50 pounds).  Can also leap high.  I&#039;m trying to &#039;frisbee&#039; train him, if I can get him to give it back to me once in a while.  He has webbed toes, I suppose for running through mud?

He loves the off-leash dog parks; but his favorite outing ever is the beach - goes berzerko in the surf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His name is Brindle, because of his color.<br />
Not terribly original, but only two syllables.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also noticed some possible left-over reactionary behaviour.   Not extreme, and I don&#8217;t know his history, but he still gets a little freaky when I reach for the top of his head.  He prefers back petting.</p>
<p>Very athletic and very fast and agile with long endurance.  My biggest challenge is getting him tired.  Looks like a bigger heavier version of a greyhound (roughly 50 pounds).  Can also leap high.  I&#8217;m trying to &#8216;frisbee&#8217; train him, if I can get him to give it back to me once in a while.  He has webbed toes, I suppose for running through mud?</p>
<p>He loves the off-leash dog parks; but his favorite outing ever is the beach &#8211; goes berzerko in the surf.</p>
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		<title>By: dana b</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the human &quot;victims&quot; of the subprime mortgage crisis.  Thinking only of themselves, this family trashed the house but left a reminder of who they really were when they left their animal as the only witness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the human &#8220;victims&#8221; of the subprime mortgage crisis.  Thinking only of themselves, this family trashed the house but left a reminder of who they really were when they left their animal as the only witness.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a beautiful story!  It&#039;s so neat that you finally found out what your dog is.  What&#039;s his name?

You are CORRECT -- I should modify my statement.  My daughter&#039;s own experience is like your own.  She adopted Lily, a rescue who been badly abused in three homes before it went to a foster home.  In one home, it was kept in a crate in the garage 24/7 except once a day when it was allowed out to go to the bathroom and eat.  

Everyone thought that Lily was a mix of terrier and something else.  

One night my daughter was walking Lily in Seattle&#039;s great dog park on Lake Washington, and a couple walked up to her and said, &quot;We know the breed of your dog.&quot;

It turns out that Lily is a Irish lurcher -- a breed raised in Ireland by gypsies to hunt small game -- and that lurchers are very uncommon in the U.S.

Now my daughter knows why Lily goes nuts whenever she sees a squirrel!  

She also runs faster than any dog at the dog park -- none has beaten her in a race yet!

She&#039;s taken a lot of work to help her calm down.  She still dives under the car seat when they drive on the ferry. But a lot of her behaviors have disappeared. She gets along beautifully with others dogs and cats.... she&#039;s a real joy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a beautiful story!  It&#8217;s so neat that you finally found out what your dog is.  What&#8217;s his name?</p>
<p>You are CORRECT &#8212; I should modify my statement.  My daughter&#8217;s own experience is like your own.  She adopted Lily, a rescue who been badly abused in three homes before it went to a foster home.  In one home, it was kept in a crate in the garage 24/7 except once a day when it was allowed out to go to the bathroom and eat.  </p>
<p>Everyone thought that Lily was a mix of terrier and something else.  </p>
<p>One night my daughter was walking Lily in Seattle&#8217;s great dog park on Lake Washington, and a couple walked up to her and said, &#8220;We know the breed of your dog.&#8221;</p>
<p>It turns out that Lily is a Irish lurcher &#8212; a breed raised in Ireland by gypsies to hunt small game &#8212; and that lurchers are very uncommon in the U.S.</p>
<p>Now my daughter knows why Lily goes nuts whenever she sees a squirrel!  </p>
<p>She also runs faster than any dog at the dog park &#8212; none has beaten her in a race yet!</p>
<p>She&#8217;s taken a lot of work to help her calm down.  She still dives under the car seat when they drive on the ferry. But a lot of her behaviors have disappeared. She gets along beautifully with others dogs and cats&#8230;. she&#8217;s a real joy.</p>
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		<title>By: ybnormal</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I wonder if there are any left.&quot;

Near where I live is a high-desert area called Antelope Valley - which has zero Antelopes - except for a few in a local zoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wonder if there are any left.&#8221;</p>
<p>Near where I live is a high-desert area called Antelope Valley &#8211; which has zero Antelopes &#8211; except for a few in a local zoo.</p>
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		<title>By: ybnormal</title>
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		<dc:creator>ybnormal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My pet story.
Last summer a friend of ours found a 6+ month old dog wandering dangerously in the streets next to a park in North Hollywood.  She took him home for a night.  Because she already had two labs, she decided to take him to the county shelter; and later begged us and other of her friends to adopt him.

We went and checked him out at the shelter.  They listed him as a &quot;brindle-colored hound&quot;.  We couldn&#039;t resist, so we adopted him.

Pure breeding didn&#039;t have a lot of meaning to us, but I was curious to know if his breed if any would tell us anything about how he might be expected to grow up.  Some neighbors thought he was mixed pit-bull or rotweiller because of his coloring and rather solid jaw, but those breeds are not hounds.

After a fair amount of research, it turns out he&#039;s a North Carolina classic hunting hound known as a Plott Hound; named after the Blue-Ridge Smokey-Mountain area family named Plott which first bred them back in the 18th century.  The official NC state dog and according to AKC, &quot;arguably the most effective hunting hound ever developed&quot;, used to hunt bears and wild boar - a benefit lost on me, a non-hunter.  However, he is very energetic and eager to please.

So the result is, a shelter doesn&#039;t necessarily mean mixed breed.  You might just get one, even if it&#039;s not what you were looking for, and find that whatever you got was a good choice after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My pet story.<br />
Last summer a friend of ours found a 6+ month old dog wandering dangerously in the streets next to a park in North Hollywood.  She took him home for a night.  Because she already had two labs, she decided to take him to the county shelter; and later begged us and other of her friends to adopt him.</p>
<p>We went and checked him out at the shelter.  They listed him as a &#8220;brindle-colored hound&#8221;.  We couldn&#8217;t resist, so we adopted him.</p>
<p>Pure breeding didn&#8217;t have a lot of meaning to us, but I was curious to know if his breed if any would tell us anything about how he might be expected to grow up.  Some neighbors thought he was mixed pit-bull or rotweiller because of his coloring and rather solid jaw, but those breeds are not hounds.</p>
<p>After a fair amount of research, it turns out he&#8217;s a North Carolina classic hunting hound known as a Plott Hound; named after the Blue-Ridge Smokey-Mountain area family named Plott which first bred them back in the 18th century.  The official NC state dog and according to AKC, &#8220;arguably the most effective hunting hound ever developed&#8221;, used to hunt bears and wild boar &#8211; a benefit lost on me, a non-hunter.  However, he is very energetic and eager to please.</p>
<p>So the result is, a shelter doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean mixed breed.  You might just get one, even if it&#8217;s not what you were looking for, and find that whatever you got was a good choice after all.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My daughter is volunteering at the local Humane Society as her High school requires 40 hours of Community Service. She says it rewarding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughter is volunteering at the local Humane Society as her High school requires 40 hours of Community Service. She says it rewarding.</p>
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		<title>By: CognitiveDissonance</title>
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		<dc:creator>CognitiveDissonance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan, unbelievable! I have no sympathy for anyone who would abuse a pet or leave it to die. You&#039;re right - the very least they could do is take it to a shelter. Better yet, don&#039;t EVER get a pet if you aren&#039;t going to consider them a part of your life and your family. Every pet I&#039;ve had has been very special to me. It would be inconceivable not to take them with me, no matter how bad the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan, unbelievable! I have no sympathy for anyone who would abuse a pet or leave it to die. You&#8217;re right &#8211; the very least they could do is take it to a shelter. Better yet, don&#8217;t EVER get a pet if you aren&#8217;t going to consider them a part of your life and your family. Every pet I&#8217;ve had has been very special to me. It would be inconceivable not to take them with me, no matter how bad the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes me sick that people would abandon their pets inside a house that they&#039;re leaving.  The least they could do would be to take it to a shelter ... to let that dog starve to death is unbelievably cruel.

I realize it&#039;s immensely traumatic to lose one&#039;s home, but to put the pet through such hell?  I have no sympathy for such people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes me sick that people would abandon their pets inside a house that they&#8217;re leaving.  The least they could do would be to take it to a shelter &#8230; to let that dog starve to death is unbelievably cruel.</p>
<p>I realize it&#8217;s immensely traumatic to lose one&#8217;s home, but to put the pet through such hell?  I have no sympathy for such people.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another little story:  When my daughter was in high school, we had a parents&#039; class called &quot;Random Acts of Kindness.&quot;  Every week we did something kind for someone -- but without discussing its purpose or what we wanted to get out of it -- and then discussed it at our meetings.  One of my personal best memories was walking outside the grocery store one night and seeing a young man who was obviously homeless.  I gave him some money, and he went inside and came out five minutes later with a nice sandwich and hot coffee.  It was touching.  That was such a fun class -- and we all left each week feeling so good about each other and the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another little story:  When my daughter was in high school, we had a parents&#8217; class called &#8220;Random Acts of Kindness.&#8221;  Every week we did something kind for someone &#8212; but without discussing its purpose or what we wanted to get out of it &#8212; and then discussed it at our meetings.  One of my personal best memories was walking outside the grocery store one night and seeing a young man who was obviously homeless.  I gave him some money, and he went inside and came out five minutes later with a nice sandwich and hot coffee.  It was touching.  That was such a fun class &#8212; and we all left each week feeling so good about each other and the world.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely.  

Before every Howard Dean Meetup in 2003-2004, we put a notice in the newspaper for the meeting&#039;s location, etc., and a request that everyone bring food for the local food bank.  It was amazing how generous people were -- most brought several cans of food and not just junky food either -- food high in protein, etc.

I was in charge of the Meetups but someone always came up to me afterwards and asked me if they could deliver the food for me, and I was so grateful for the offer.  People can be truly great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely.  </p>
<p>Before every Howard Dean Meetup in 2003-2004, we put a notice in the newspaper for the meeting&#8217;s location, etc., and a request that everyone bring food for the local food bank.  It was amazing how generous people were &#8212; most brought several cans of food and not just junky food either &#8212; food high in protein, etc.</p>
<p>I was in charge of the Meetups but someone always came up to me afterwards and asked me if they could deliver the food for me, and I was so grateful for the offer.  People can be truly great.</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I would add a lot of people are suffering, too.

If you think of it, drop a few cans of food off at your local food bank, or a couple of dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I would add a lot of people are suffering, too.</p>
<p>If you think of it, drop a few cans of food off at your local food bank, or a couple of dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: susanunpc</title>
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		<dc:creator>susanunpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, what a great point.  The U.S. media always play up the touching stories of soldiers who adopt dogs, but how many millions of animals -- dogs, cats, mules, sheep, etc., etc. -- have suffered horrific fates because of the war.  The media should cover THAT story too.  Thanks for bringing that up.  (OF course, you can be sure the media will never do the story.)

Often, I wonder about the snow leopards who live(d) in the mountains of Afghanistan.  I wonder if there are any left.  I&#039;d be shocked if there were.

And I&#039;ve read stories about the decimation of wild bird populations in those regions because of war.

Yesterday on BookTV, there was an author who&#039;s written about what would happen if man disappeared from the earth.  I forget the name of his book.  

Frankly, if mankind did disappear from the earth, it&#039;d be better off.

He said the worst problem will be the disintegration of plastic.  He wishes that organisms developed that fed on plastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a great point.  The U.S. media always play up the touching stories of soldiers who adopt dogs, but how many millions of animals &#8212; dogs, cats, mules, sheep, etc., etc. &#8212; have suffered horrific fates because of the war.  The media should cover THAT story too.  Thanks for bringing that up.  (OF course, you can be sure the media will never do the story.)</p>
<p>Often, I wonder about the snow leopards who live(d) in the mountains of Afghanistan.  I wonder if there are any left.  I&#8217;d be shocked if there were.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve read stories about the decimation of wild bird populations in those regions because of war.</p>
<p>Yesterday on BookTV, there was an author who&#8217;s written about what would happen if man disappeared from the earth.  I forget the name of his book.  </p>
<p>Frankly, if mankind did disappear from the earth, it&#8217;d be better off.</p>
<p>He said the worst problem will be the disintegration of plastic.  He wishes that organisms developed that fed on plastic.</p>
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