Comments on: Criticizing America: “Don’t Bite the Hand That Feeds You” http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/ Fri, 25 May 2012 00:29:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Sander http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1481917 Sander Sat, 16 Apr 2011 16:23:01 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1481917 Some hypocrites up in here. Freedom of speech should be without boundaries. That's what the freedom-part implies. So criticizing all the ails America suffers from (and there are a lot) should be a basic freedom, be it past or present ails. Some hypocrites up in here. Freedom of speech should be without boundaries. That’s what the freedom-part implies. So criticizing all the ails America suffers from (and there are a lot) should be a basic freedom, be it past or present ails.

]]> By: Robert J. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1216338 Robert J. Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:50:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1216338 Most of the problem falls on the Goverment. They give, free food, free housing, free medical, free education and free money to a lot of immigrants (but you must be a Illegal immigrant). You can't be a US Citizen to get it. The money they get it more then you get on SS. I would like to know how I can turn my citizenship in. And becoming a Illegal Immigrant so I can get the freebees, Insteed of having to work for the last 35 years paying my taxes, paying into SSI (unlike congressmen or senators who do not have to pay to get full benefits) Most of the problem falls on the Goverment. They give, free food, free housing, free medical, free education and free money to a lot of immigrants (but you must be a Illegal immigrant). You can’t be a US Citizen to get it. The money they get it more then you get on SS. I would like to know how I can turn my citizenship in. And becoming a Illegal Immigrant so I can get the freebees, Insteed of having to work for the last 35 years paying my taxes, paying into SSI (unlike congressmen or senators who do not have to pay to get full benefits)

]]> By: Magic Puzzle Box http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1145070 Magic Puzzle Box Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:00:17 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1145070 Would you be referring to the striking unity of the past 8 years? I have yet to hear any demonization in the past few months since the new administration took over. Only rational criticism. Would you be referring to the striking unity of the past 8 years? I have yet to hear any demonization in the past few months since the new administration took over. Only rational criticism.

]]> By: Magic Puzzle Box http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1145051 Magic Puzzle Box Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:40:56 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1145051 I do a lot of volunteer work among the local immigrant community, and I have to say, most of them are far more pro-America than many Americans are. So I have no problem with them complaining about corruption or Pelosi or what have you. That actually makes them sound more American. Some come from countries where you can't criticize your government without serious repercussions. In fact, one woman recently complained to me that a local school she went to didn't have students say the pledge of allegiance. What would bother me, however, is Ayers-style America bashing. That is, criticizing America as a symbol, American exceptionalism to some degree, democracy, even overarching American values like belief in merit and hard work. It's kind of funny where this has led me. Although I don't like Geert Wilders, I really agree with him more than I expected in the wake of his hate speech charges. I do a lot of volunteer work among the local immigrant community, and I have to say, most of them are far more pro-America than many Americans are. So I have no problem with them complaining about corruption or Pelosi or what have you. That actually makes them sound more American. Some come from countries where you can’t criticize your government without serious repercussions. In fact, one woman recently complained to me that a local school she went to didn’t have students say the pledge of allegiance.

What would bother me, however, is Ayers-style America bashing. That is, criticizing America as a symbol, American exceptionalism to some degree, democracy, even overarching American values like belief in merit and hard work. It’s kind of funny where this has led me. Although I don’t like Geert Wilders, I really agree with him more than I expected in the wake of his hate speech charges.

]]> By: anon http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1144867 anon Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:10:39 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1144867 Annie, with respect to exercising good manners, I completely agree. Being a guest somewhere and all... Annie, with respect to exercising good manners, I completely agree. Being a guest somewhere and all…

]]> By: AnnieCollier http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1144862 AnnieCollier Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:58:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1144862 That may be a bit revisionist, Linda. What the song says it be thankful that you came here and have opportunity to become more and have a better life. Do you think that any immigrant in the early days, had a better life where ever he came from? No they didn't and not only that, they had no way to rise through society for anything better. There was no middle class and you were either rich or poor. Landed gentry or serf. Very few were able to affect change. That's the difference. And, no I don't think visitors should come here and criticize us. From their own shores, fine. I would never think of being so crass or rude as to go to England and criticize the Queen even if many Brits do. Once you are a citizen though, we are always free to criticize our own. That may be a bit revisionist, Linda. What the song says it be thankful that you came here and have opportunity to become more and have a better life.

Do you think that any immigrant in the early days, had a better life where ever he came from? No they didn’t and not only that, they had no way to rise through society for anything better. There was no middle class and you were either rich or poor. Landed gentry or serf. Very few were able to affect change. That’s the difference.

And, no I don’t think visitors should come here and criticize us. From their own shores, fine. I would never think of being so crass or rude as to go to England and criticize the Queen even if many Brits do. Once you are a citizen though, we are always free to criticize our own.

]]> By: anon http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1144861 anon Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:56:27 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1144861 I've been profoundly proud of the House Republicans even though I was until last June a democrat. They stood up against GWB on the bailout (at least initially and never folded completely) and the stood firm against the porkulus. Let's not drag them out by the collar just yet! I’ve been profoundly proud of the House Republicans even though I was until last June a democrat. They stood up against GWB on the bailout (at least initially and never folded completely) and the stood firm against the porkulus. Let’s not drag them out by the collar just yet!

]]> By: anon http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1144856 anon Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:46:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1144856 I and my siblings are first generation here in the USA. My parents fled what became a part of the Soviet Union after 1949. The depth and richness of our liberties and our freedom to create our own wealth through our own hard work were the two pillars my parents revered. Their love of their new country was born of gratitude and devotion. I studied law and the two technical pillars of federalism (state sovereignty) and separation of powers are what I revere because all that is good, just and true about this great country evolve from those two principles taken together. Free speech is sacrosanct (Congress shall pass no law abridging the freedom of speech). One man's rant is another's criticism, it is for the listeners to discern but not for government to silence. When we keep our guiding principles before us, our ship of state maintains a fruitful course. I've wondered if incoming members of Congress and other appointees ought not be given a basic Constitutional Law 101 refresher. Men and women of good heart would welcome it and be well served by it in their duties. Heck, everyone would be. I and my siblings are first generation here in the USA. My parents fled what became a part of the Soviet Union after 1949. The depth and richness of our liberties and our freedom to create our own wealth through our own hard work were the two pillars my parents revered. Their love of their new country was born of gratitude and devotion.

I studied law and the two technical pillars of federalism (state sovereignty) and separation of powers are what I revere because all that is good, just and true about this great country evolve from those two principles taken together.

Free speech is sacrosanct (Congress shall pass no law abridging the freedom of speech). One man’s rant is another’s criticism, it is for the listeners to discern but not for government to silence. When we keep our guiding principles before us, our ship of state maintains a fruitful course. I’ve wondered if incoming members of Congress and other appointees ought not be given a basic Constitutional Law 101 refresher. Men and women of good heart would welcome it and be well served by it in their duties. Heck, everyone would be.

]]> By: Ellen D http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1144839 Ellen D Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:15:03 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1144839 I agree, I'm sick of these sacred cows. And I don't feel like having any more "conversations" about race. I also think this is a great country - I'm also a late immigrant with a British-type background. I think you can go ahead and say what you please OGG - you earned it - you live here. It would be different if it came from someone outside the country. I agree, I’m sick of these sacred cows. And I don’t feel like having any more “conversations” about race. I also think this is a great country – I’m also a late immigrant with a British-type background.
I think you can go ahead and say what you please OGG – you earned it – you live here. It would be different if it came from someone outside the country.

]]> By: Choo Choo Magoo http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1144836 Choo Choo Magoo Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:07:21 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1144836 I'm thinking the world wide mess we've started kind of blew the doors off alot of countries, so we've got to expect a bit of blowback. Fair is fair. I’m thinking the world wide mess we’ve started kind of blew the doors off alot of countries, so we’ve got to expect a bit of blowback. Fair is fair.

]]> By: Linda C. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1144725 Linda C. Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:07:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1144725 During 1915 through 1929, immigrants were in deplorable conditions in this country. Therefore, the song was in a way of saying shut up, be thankful for the crumbs while huddling in squalor tenements. Americans don't like to admit that we can be wrong and we in differing periods in our history treat our fellow citizens and people less than what decency should minimally dictate. During 1915 through 1929, immigrants were in deplorable conditions in this country. Therefore, the song was in a way of saying shut up, be thankful for the crumbs while huddling in squalor tenements.

Americans don’t like to admit that we can be wrong and we in differing periods in our history treat our fellow citizens and people less than what decency should minimally dictate.

]]> By: I'm a Linda too http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1144710 I'm a Linda too Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:47:38 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1144710 btw, that does not limit to us only who live here either. What kind of place would this "free" country be if we declared our visitors no right to speak their mind? btw, that does not limit to us only who live here either. What kind of place would this “free” country be if we declared our visitors no right to speak their mind?

]]> By: I'm a Linda too http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1144707 I'm a Linda too Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:46:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1144707 You live here, you work here, you are affected by what this country does. Of course you should speak up. That is after all what we are founded on, our rights. But most of all, we all learn and should be eager to hear others experiences and points of view. What a great country if we could take the best ideas from all the other places learned and hard fought and enacted them here in the place called America. ... oh wait. :) You live here, you work here, you are affected by what this country does. Of course you should speak up. That is after all what we are founded on, our rights. But most of all, we all learn and should be eager to hear others experiences and points of view.

What a great country if we could take the best ideas from all the other places learned and hard fought and enacted them here in the place called America. … oh wait. :)

]]> By: foxyladi14 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1144663 foxyladi14 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:26:35 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1144663 i love my country i am proud of her and all her children.there are no finer people anywhere. it,s the corrupt people in government we are complaining about. fire them all and start over with some real americans.. i love my country i am proud of her and all her children.there are no finer people anywhere.
it,s the corrupt people in government we are complaining about.
fire them all and start over with some real americans..

]]> By: foxyladi14 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/14670/criticizing-america-dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you/#comment-1144660 foxyladi14 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:17:05 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14670#comment-1144660 standing cheering and clapping..right on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! standing cheering and clapping..right on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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