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dean Howard Dean reacts to being told he has no shot at being the new head of HHS

Barack Obama would not be where he is today without Howard Dean. The former Vermont Governor and DNC Chairman created the blueprints that David Axelrod would expand upon to garner the 2008 Democratic Party presidential nomination for the junior Senator from Illinois. In 2004 Dean built a presidential nomination campaign based on grassroots support and small internet donations. He energized the net roots and helped the far left blogosphere find a voice and influence.

Dean did not succeed, but Obama’s team had four years to study what he did right and where he went wrong. They found ways to exploit regulations involving internet donations, control the flow of information on blogs and add some old fashioned Chicago wrangling to the caucus game.

After losing out in 2004, Dean’s consolation prize was to chair the DNC. He took a party stung by the loss of John Kerry and the despair that followed and helped energize it. His 50 state strategy helped pave the way for Obama’s red state organizing and was key to providing President Obama with the congressional majorities he now enjoys. Dean also helped stack the deck in Obama’s favor. The Florida and Michigan mess played out Obama’s way thanks to a heavy DNC hand, the DNC stayed remarkably silent over documented instances of caucus fraud and even this most progressive party chair had nothing to say over the mistreatment of Senator Hillary Clinton and the outright misogyny displayed throughout the campaign.

This of course makes Dean the perfect passenger for a ride under the Obama bus.

Howard Dean probably never expected to stay on as DNC Chairman following the Obama victory. Tradition has the President selecting his “own man” to head the party. Even so, it would be hard for Governor Tim Kaine to deliver for Obama the way Dean did. Dean was apparently not even welcome to the press conference where Obama tapped Kaine to be the next chair. I am sure they made sure the door didn’t hit Howie in the ass on the way out. One could imagine Obama saying “thanks for the help there Ho (an endearing term used by the rappers the President enjoys), but we won’t be needing you around here anymore.”

Today, there just happens to be a help wanted sign on the office of the Secretary of Health and Human Services. There is probably no Democrat as qualified for this position as Howard Dean. He is a doctor and former governor with a record of expanding health care opportunities for the residents of Vermont, particularly children. He is a favorite with the progressive base that will called upon to generate support for some form of nationalized health care and has proven he can organize and win political battles.

He also has no shot of landing the job (although his odds are slightly better than Tom Daschle’s.) White House insiders say there are worried that Dean is too divisive and partisan to bring Republicans into the fold. Some GOP support will be needed to get any kind of meaningful health care reform through the Senate. White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel is also no fan of Dr. Dean. The two apparently had some real knock down, drag out battles over how DNC funds would be used in congressional races back when Emanuel was the head of the Congressional Campaign Committee.

Dean no longer has any real value to the Obama administration, he has given them all he can. If they really wanted him at HHS, they could have him. They could leave the GOP wooing to someone else and let him just work on the policy. However, Dean is used up as far as the Obama team is concerned and just not worth any potential headaches.

The net roots are trying help Dean’s case with petitions and postings and old liners like Tom Harkin are pushing his candidacy, but it is all for naught. The word on the street is that Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius will be the pick (once her tax returns have been vetted by a team of 50 different accountants.) She is a one time state insurance commissioner and has spent the last eight years as a Governor overseeing a state medicaid program. Coming from red state Kansas, she is skilled at working across party lines. It will be a surprise if she is not the pick.

As for Howard Dean, well hopefully Sebelius will craft a plan that covers injuries sustained while being run over by the Obama bus.

  • Seattle Moss

    Dean no longer has any real value to the Obama administration, he has given them all he can.

    The mob is all done with poor little coward dean..Time for the cement shoes.

  • Tricia Spiegel

    Boy, that bus is way up in the air by now what with all of the bodies under it.

    I am mad at Dean because I think he purposely hurt Hillary Clinton, but I admire his skills and agree that Obama probably owes him a lot.

  • rickrickrick

    Not naming Dean as the Sec. of HHS continues to show how small a man Obama is. For better or worse Dean helped put Obama where he is.

  • ipotter

    Wonder if Howie’s retirement is tied to the market? He might be needing it soon.

  • Docelder

    Coming from red state Kansas, she is skilled at working across party lines.

    She is also the “Anti-Palin” the party knows they are going to need four years from now.

  • Ms. Misdemeanor

    The interesting thing about Kaine is that he could probably not win an election for dogcatcher right now in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

    I live in the Commonwealth, and have observed Virginia politics since the early 60s.

    Kaine is the biggest piece of gubernatorial tripe I have ever seen here.

    And that’s saying something!

  • Peggy Sue

    rrr said:

    “Not naming Dean as the Sec. of HHS continues to show how small a man Obama is. For better or worse Dean helped put Obama where he is.”

    I agree. There doesn’t seem to be anything approaching loyalty in this crew. That must have been some slap down between Dean and Emmanuel because regardless of how you feel about Dean’s shenanigans during the primaries, he’s clearly the logical choice for Health. His experience and medical background alone is proof of that.

    Petty politics at it’s finest!

  • standard

    Obama’s team realizes that Dean mangled the primaries like never before.
    He used the position to burn bridges.

  • Nocturnal Warrior

    Obama’s team needed Dean to mangle those primaries.

  • pm317

    Dean’s situation is a mystery to me. Will there be retribution or has he been too weakened to act?

  • Nocturnal Warrior

    Dean still has his loyalists, but right now he has no juice to battle Obama. Politics is a long game, he may get his revenge some day, but it sure won’t be for awhile.

  • Ms. Misdemeanor

    Problem with Kaine is that he could not win a race for dogcatcher in the Commonwealth of Virginia right now.

    As a denizen of the Commonwealth, I have observed our politicians for 50 years.

    Kaine is the biggest piece of gubernatorial tripe I have ever seen.

    And that’s saying a lot.

    I wouldn’t wish him into a leadership position in any body’s party.

    No political party in the world I can think of deserves a clown show like that.

  • HARP

    He used the position to burn bridges.

    This song is for Barry.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8JPkBnvoF8&feature=related

  • JohnnyB

    Dear RobWarrior;

    You forgot to mention that after Dean dropped out of the 2004 race, he sent his Dean Team to 12 races throughout the country, one was the Illinois Senate Race, Barack Obama’s race. Dean’s Team helped him secure his Senate seat.

    As you have pointed out, it didn’t stop there.
    Dean’s Michigan and Florida stance, and Dean’s now wanting a roll call vote at the Democratic convention assured an Obama nomination.

    It is truly remarkable that President Obama does not choose Dean as the head of HHS. It is unbelievable.

  • Nocturnal Warrior

    Obama’s history is of using people while they have something to offer or something to offer in the future.

    Dean has no favors left to give.

  • Seattle Moss

    Is there a wonder folks that Obama’s favorite movie is the Godfather…

    Such gangsterism!

  • susan h

    Just like Blagojevich, I would TELL ALL and take others down with me. If I were Howard Dean, he has a story to tell. Obama has not seen the last of Howard Dean, even though he thinks so. He knows ALL the secrets in that closet, and Obama and Rahm Emanuel and David Alexrod (the axis of evil) would NOT like this story to get out of the closet. Maybe they should re-think their plan on who gets the HHS position. P.S. I guess that’s why Donna Brazille was kicked under the bus as well, she gave ALL and is of no more use to the Chosen One.

  • Masha

    You say this about Dean:

    “He is a doctor and former governor with a record of expanding health care opportunities for the residents of Vermont, particularly children.”

    That’s exactly the kind of person BO doesn’t want: someone who will take the job seriously, someone who truly wants a better health care system. BO works for the big money companies, not for the regular people who will benefit from this. Sibelius is an obot. She will do as she is told.

  • catherine

    Absolutely! If Dean had done his job ethically and not mangled the primaries we would now have a President Clinton steering the country in the right direction instead of this incompetent a$$hat we’re now saddled with!

    I’m glad Dr. Deanenstein keeps getting screwed by the monster he created. I’ll be even happier when Dean’s name goes down in infamy for the electoral fraud he facilitated and the unforgivable misogyny and race baiting he condoned.

  • catherine

    Yep. Obama is Tataglia to George Soros’ Barzini.

  • Jay L

    Another fine post my friend. I wonder if that bus runs on regular diesel or natural gas Barry wanting to be the “green” President and all.

  • LDW

    There’s an old fable about ‘The Scorpion and the Frog’. A scorpion asked a frog to carry him across a river. The frog was afraid of being stung, but the scorpion reassured the frog that it was in no danger: that if the scorpion stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown as well. The frog then agreed; nevertheless, in mid-river, the scorpion stung him, dooming the two of them. When asked why, the scorpion explained, “I’m a scorpion; it’s my nature.”

    Of course, in the modern re-telling, the scorpion was in no danger, because the large White House rock was in the middle of the river waiting for him. The poisoned frog drowned.
    .

  • catherine

    Yeah, but in order for Dean to truly bring down Obama he has to take the fall with him.

    Obama’s stealing of the Democratic nomination was possible in very large part to Dean’s corruption and voter disenfranchisement.

    Unless Dean has a way to spill some other beans on the one by proxy.

  • AlexisM

    Howie was stupid enough to lie down with dogs (rats) and now he has fleas to show for it. All of the jackazzes who helped steal the nomination from Hillary, first and foremost ole Howie, will eventually end up under the bus together. Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of pigs. But, what was Howie thinking? Of all people he had to know that the Fraud had no morals or loyalty. I wish them all the worst, and hope we get to prosecute them some day for what they all did.

  • http://cinie.wordpress.com Cinie

    Obama’s miffed at Dean for a lot of things. His side claims Dean didn’t back him strongly enough in the Fl/Mi conflict, and let it go on too long, they don’t like that Dean claims any credit for the 50 state strategy, and they even got upset when Dean suggested Obama pay for his own coronation since he was the one who moved it to Ivesco. Dean said that meant Obie was cutting the convention by a day, so Camp O should pick up the tab, before Obie stared him down and Dean, predictably backed off.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081113/pl_politico/15608/print

  • dcmediagirl

    James Carville once told me that campaigns are about screwing your enemies and winning is about screwing your friends. I think that applies here. Keep in mind that I use the word “friend” to describe a Washington “friend” not a friend “friend”.

  • Ellen D

    Is Donna gone too? I must have slept through that one. Any references please from anyone so I can catch up?

  • beachnan

    Hard to have any sympathy for Dean the Scream. I think he was headed in the right direction years ago, but somehow took a wrong turn. What he did to Hillary in the farce known as the primary, was unforgiveable. By not standing up to the misogyny carried out by the media and Obama team, he dissed all women. Karma is a bitch, and she’s dealing with Howard now. I can only hope and pray, that all the people Obama has thrown under the bus, will rise against him and he gets what he deserves. Barry better watch your back. Karma’s gonna get you too!

  • beachnan

    Did you ever notice, that there is never enough adulation to soothe Obama’s ego? The best managers in the world know that it is important to give people credit where credit is due. Obama wants all the credit, all the time. Sick, sick man.

  • Nocturnal Warrior

    Exactly… The DNC pays for a convention and rents the arena. The candidate decides the arena isn’t big enough and wants a stadium and expects the DNC to pay for that and the arena they already paid for.

    Only Obama could say that Dean did not do enough for him with Florida and Michigan. If those two primaries count before Super Tuesday, he is not President.

    It is never enough..and when it there is nothing else to give, under the bus you go.

  • Phishmelt

    I do believe by the next set of elections, there will be evidence being posted by the MSM about the prior elections. But what I’m worried about is all of those O supporters who are now on record and able to vote in multiple counties/states. I don’t see a way republicans are going to be able to purge all those names. And i wouldn’t be surprised if they do vote again multiple times next election. The groundwork is already set.

  • Nocturnal Warrior

    Tataglia is a pimp. He could have never outfought Santino.

  • ritamary

    Poor Howard…I did like him so much at one time. I worked on his 2004 campaign. His description of himself as being from “the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party” made him very appealing.

    Howard Dean betrayed those who at one time had great admiration for him. He lost us when he fell in with those who believe the end justifies the means. And look where betrayal of his and our principles has gotten him now.

  • Neverland

    Thank you, this post made my day.
    You shouldn’t worry about Dean, though. At least he’s got “hope”.

  • tek

    Well, I hope Howard Dean is happy with the twit he pushed into the WH.

  • Fae

    I can’t stand Dean or any of the DNC! I use to be a Democrat but not for this thug group.

  • Karma

    Wow….that says a lot. Thanks for sharing that gem.

    To the original poster’s point.

    I still wonder if Dean has a ‘Two Degrees from Obama’ position waiting two years down the road. Like they offered Gov Blago.

    It would seem Dean the Scream is the type that needs to be soothed into silence.

    Since that’s what it appeared his DNC gig was. Something to soothe his huge ego for tumbling out of the race so early and the Clintons not coming to his rescue.

    Obama should be worried if he has no pay to play plans. Dean got his revenge on the Clintons.

  • I’m a Linda too

    Excellent post. But Governor Dean better seek medical attention for those injuries before he gets older. You know how Obama will be cutting back on their coverage.

  • catherine

    If I had to compare Hillary to any of these unsavory characters I’d compare her to Michael.

    In the end she outsmarts them all and they each get what they so richly deserve.

  • beebop

    and another bites and another bites and another one bites the dust ….. ah. Do we file this one under “I told you so,” or “You should have seen this coming?”

  • mimi

    Can’t say I’m sad about this. After what Dean did with the Primary and costing Hillary the nomination.

    I’m also not shocked by 0bama’s lack of loyalty. It’s as is expected.

    This the price they all pay for not wanting a Hillary Clinton presidency.

    Fuck’em all!

  • beebop

    Can I have an AMEN?!

  • beebop

    Maybe he’ll get to say “bend over and cough?”

  • CentralMass

    Well said..

  • Hermagoras

    I’m confused. The first sentence of this story suggests that there will be something about Howard Dean’s reaction. But the article doesn’t provide any evidence that Dean is even upset. Is there something here, or is it just made up out of whole cloth? (Like SusanUnPC’s allegation that Obama was not a co-sponsor of the Ledbetter act after he’d resigned from the Senate — I’m still waiting on a correction for that one.)

  • Typewriterstreaming

    Thank God Dean didn’t get this post. He has an atrocious view of holistic healing such as Chiropractic. Dean would have severely limited the type of treatments people would be covered for.

  • Nocturnal Warrior

    The first sentence is actually supposed to be the caption under the picture. It was a joke that got lost in the blog formatics

  • Hermagoras

    Thanks. That explains things (if it doesn’t make the post any more substantive or evidence-based). Any chance the falsehood in this post will be corrected?

  • FLDemFem

    Why would Obummer have needed help running against Alan Keyes? The man is insane, and it is obvious every time he opens his mouth. And Obummer certainly didn’t need any help getting people off the ballot when he wanted to run unopposed in the primary. He had no problem leaking the sealed divorce papers of his Republican opponent, which his lawyer somehow got unsealed or flat-out stole from the courthouse. Why would Obummer need any help? He’s quite capable of running a crooked campaign all on his own.

  • susan h

    For Ellen D: The reason I mentioned Donna Brazille was kicked under the bus is that I heard early on she let it be known she wanted to be the new DNC chair, and you see how that went. Not even a little nibble from Obie & Co. And after she broke all the Rules at the May Rules Committee meeting just for him, and even LIED when her grand-ma-ma always told her not to, Donna was passed-over, you might say, thrown under the bus along with Rev. Wright, a host of others and now Howard Dean.

  • Palm Tree

    I’ve wondered if perhaps Obama’s habit of throwing his allies under the bus is in effect a way of “eliminating” witnesses to his fraudulent ways.

    As RobWarrior points out, Dean helped make possible the primary fraud, stayed silent on the misogyny directed at Clinton, etc.

    Get rid of Howie and a link to that past is eliminated – and Obama’s facade of integrity is thereby protected.

    Just a thought to consider.

  • Patrica

    I live in Virginia and I couldn’t agree with you more, to think I gave money and helped to get this guy elected! He has spent all of his time helping
    Obama get elected, he hasn’t done much of any thing
    to help the people of Virginia, now we have a mess,
    cities, and counties don’t have enough money for
    schools. The citizens voted for a lottery for the
    purpose of giving money to the school system, I wonder where all the money has gone from the profits
    of the lottery?

  • Palm Tree

    Second that.

  • beachnan

    You are worried about the truth?
    Obama-lied about his stand on FISA
    Ayers-just a guy in the neighborhood
    Wright-I never heard him say those things
    Auchi-I only met him once
    Birth certificate-where is it?
    Columbia grades-where are they?
    Harvard grades-where are they?
    Medical records-where are they?
    State senate records-where are they?
    Position on NAFTA-yes, no, maybeso? pick one

    Obama wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped him upside his head, and you are worrid about us. Ridiculous.

  • Steve1

    Hey, I’m told you so! The screamer deserves what he has gotten! Shit! When your actions are shit, they come back to bite you! You know, what goes around comes around!

  • TeakWoodKite

    What a beaut DcMediaGirl!
    Edwards comes to mind…two Americas and all..

  • barb

    Hillary looked so straight, tall and in charge yesterday on the news. What a shame the Democratic Party backed the wrong horse! Oh, well. I told you so.

  • AndyP

    For those of you wondering about Donna Brazile and the DNC, I got this message from her last July. I don’t know if it is true.

    She was being snarky and suggested I work for the DNC if I was so concerned and I asked her why I would want to work with her. This is her reply:

    Because I don’t work for the DNC. You can apply. My days are over and done. I hope this bring you joy.
    ——Original Message——
    From: ***
    To: Donna Brazile
    Sent: Jul 25, 2008 9:35 PM
    Subject: Why would I want to work with you?

    Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile. Please excuse any typos or grammatical errors.

  • elise

    I’ll add an AMEN to that, but I have to admit to a lot of confusion on the choices Obama had made. Richardson was the first. How could they not have known Bill was being investigated given that it had been on going for two years? And why offer him a cabient post at all since he could have named him ambassador of some cuntry or another and wouldn’t have had to go through confirmation? Why did it take them three months to realize Daschel had tax problems? Solis and her husband were unaware of a tax lein on their home? Please. And Killifer? What is a White House Performance Officer anyway?

  • Mandelay

    I heard Kansas is on the verge of economic collapse, a la California. If so, she would pale next to Palin, who has done a better job of keeping her state in better financial shape.

  • C.S.

    Howie was stupid enough to lie down with dogs (rats) and now he has fleas to show for it.

    Fleas are one thing, but the rats are what brought the plague. And the longer Soertoro/Obama (when will we know his legal name) and his rats are in Our White House the more plague spreads within it.

  • C.S.

    Why does this one post bother you? Because you think it puts your “Obama” in a bad light? Or because the civil rights equal treatment Act for women passed without his blessing? A rather insignificant point since he was willing to spend almost a million dollars to keep from producing his birth certificate and citizenship papers in a court of law.

  • FembotsForObama

    Absolutely Dean is the best man for the job, & I say this with a bunch of bile in my mouth right now. But there ain’t no way in hell Dean is going to get it — he just doesn’t fit in with Pres 0′s plans to privatize SS. He’d much rather have Ms. previous insurance commissioner for this transition, and he wants to hear no complaints from Deano. I am shaking with laughter at the thought of mass amounts of Obots getting cramped necks and hands due to their mass petitioning for NAUGHT!

    Maybe the Obots will get it then, that Pres 0 is not a liberal, but I doubt it. I bet they blame it on the Republicans.

  • Collen

    Whenever Obama selects someone for his cabinet or top administrative positions, you all say he is doing the ‘pay for play’ thing. then when he does not select his former supporters (or in this case the DNC chair), you say he has thrown them under the bus.
    what’s with you people anyway??? Do you know for a fact that Howard Dean is persona non grata? do you know that he is upset at not being selected?

    Obama will never do the right thing in your eyes….and its so ridiculous to write these nonsence blogs that have no facts whatsoever – just berating Obama.

  • Collen

    wasn’t a tax lien on Solis’s home – get your facts straight. it was concerning her husband’s business and he paid up and will now take it to court. had nothing to do with her.

  • rw

    hear, hear.

  • http://www.lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com whoframedrudy

    “Only Obama could say that Dean did not do enough for him with Florida and Michigan. If those two primaries count before Super Tuesday, he is not President.”

    Yes. The RNC took decisive action, stripped FL/MI of half their delegates and moved on. After winning FL, McCain was a done deal. Giuliani dropped out after FL because of momentum, not delegate counts. If the DNC acted decisively, Hillary would be President.

    Instead Dean dribbled and dripped his way Pelosi-style to a non-decision. If it wasn’t so typical, I’d say they sandbagged Hil on purpose–but who can say?

  • Chicago Joe

    As for Howard Dean, well hopefully Sebelius will craft a plan that covers injuries sustained while being run over by the Obama bus.

    That is precious! Coulda had Hillary for HHS. Now we have the generic substitute for Hillary, Sebelius. HAve you ever heard that woman talk? I listened to one of her responses to George Bush’s weekly radio address and it was excruciatingly painful (even back when I was enthusiastic about being a Democrat.)

    What is the word on the Mc Caskill? There has to be a special place in hell the WH for that sycophant.

  • rw

    “My days are over and done” Not over and done enough….yet….doesn’t she still flap her gums on c(rap)nn?

  • Chicago Joe

    Give Howard immunity to implicate Pelosi, Reid, Donna B, Alice Germond and the rest of those political hacks to glommed on to Obama and let Hillary down.

  • jbjd

    You missed the most important function Mr. Dean fulfilled as Chair of the DNC: he appointed Nancy Pelosi Chair of the 2008 DNC Convention. As Chair, she signed the DNC Certification that, BO was the nominee of the Party. And in HI,she had to do more.

    HRS §11-113, Presidential ballots,reads in part,

    In the case of candidates of political parties which have been qualified to place candidates on the primary and general election ballots, the appropriate official of those parties shall file a sworn application with the chief election officer not later than 4:30 p.m. on the sixtieth day prior to the general election, which shall include:
    (B) A statement that each candidate is legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution;

    So, NP added a line to the DNC Certification that read, BO is Constitutionally eligible for the job.

    If you are talking fraud, this is game; set; match.

    (I am working on a presentation for voters to take to their A’sG and S’s of S.)

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/

    Mr. Dean is not as powerless as you might think.

  • Docelder

    I fully agree. Palin in my book has the capacity to be the Reagan of this time. Kansas’ governor can be the next bureaucrat.

  • Ashy1

    After the way Dean managed the DNC, he can go down in flames as far as I’m concerned. In fact, I wish I had a bus so I could run him over.

  • candymarl

    You first.

  • FLDemFem

    She is doing movie reviews for CNN, apparently. She thinks that the new movie The Curious Case of Benjamin Buttons is a parable for the city of New Orleans, or something.

    Here is the link to the article.
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/20/brazile.benjamin.button/index.html

    And here is a link to a story from right after Katrina where Donna Brazile used her media access to get her sister rescued.
    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/06/brazile.rescue/index.html?iref=newssearch

    And this is the blurb that comes with the first link..she is still screwing the American people at the DNC.

    Donna Brazile, a Democratic strategist, is vice chair for voter registration and participation at the Democratic National Committee and founder of Brazile & Associates, a political consulting firm. She was the campaign manager for the Al Gore-Joe Lieberman ticket in 2000 and wrote “Cooking With Grease.”

    So she is under the bus, but still has a job. Two jobs, one with the DNC and one with CNN. Both well-paid, of course.

  • FLDemFem

    It doesn’t work that way in politics. Loyalty is rewarded by loyalty. If he had given Dean even a little ambassadorship, he would have shown his appreciation, and would have been rewarded with loyalty. Instead of eliminating a link to the past, hall Obummer has done is cut loose a witness with no incentive to protect The One. Political clout comes from loyalty and being able to trust the person you are loyal to. Obummer doesn’t understand that, and it’s going to cost him big time in the end. No one will stand up for him, since he never stood up for anyone of them. That’s why Hillary would have been such a good president. She already has worked with people on both sides of the aisle and has built up a network of allies in Congress. Obummer spent the whole time, except for less than five months during which he determined he was qualified to be President, running for President. He has no alliances, no people in Congress to watch his back and no one who will go to the mat for him. To get political allies like that, you have to be a loyal person who repays favors. Obummer just takes favors, he doesn’t repay them. That isn’t a good way to have a long political career.

  • elise

    Sorry, collen, it was a lien on his business. But my question is still the same. How could they have a lien on his business without being aware of it? Do you have a problem with any of the rest of my comment? If so please tell me and I’ll apologize if I’m wrong.

  • FLDemFem

    She lied. This is from CNN, the description of her and her position on an article today..

    is vice chair for voter registration and participation at the Democratic National Committee

  • ripalinsky

    Larry,
    Have you ever considered that our current problems might not be limited to the hated Obama, but might include the entire Democratic (read Progressive Socialist) Party? Just quit them! Hiliary is no different than Obama.

  • beachnan

    Sorry, at this point, many of us still support Hillary Clinton wholeheartedly. What I, and many others have decided to do, is look at the individual running for office, and not their party affiliation. The Republicans have as much explainin’ to do as the Democrats, for the 8 years Bush was in office. Not once, did they stand up and oppose anything he put before them. From now on, I am an Independent, and my choice will rest solely on who I feel is most qualified for the position, and who I feel will best represent my viewpoints.

  • DisenfranchisedVoter

    I must say that Dean deserves this. Those who expected to get something out of disenfranchising voters and accepting misogyny and race baiting deserve the bad karma from supporting an opportunist and traitor. The voters couldn’t trust Obama and it turns out that Democrats like Dean, Pelosi, Kerry, Richardson, etc. shouldn’t have trusted him either.

  • Bob

    Howard Dean is only one of the reasons I am no longer a Democrat—– The party is being destroyed After Obama’s 4 years there will not be another Democratic President for 20 years— All the nuts converged at once costing the best candidate Hillary Clinton the Presidency

  • Ellen D

    Not a bad way to live your life outside of politics too – reward loyalty with loyalty.

  • Collen

    He did not need help to run against Alan Keyes.

    Obama did NOT leak the divorce papers of Jack Ryan – they were leaked before the PRIMARY, the two were not running against each other. The Chicago Tribune took it to court to have the divorce papers released and finally the REPUBLICANS urged Ryan to drop out as they were afraid if he won the republican primary, he would be forced to drop out if the papers proved embarrassing.

    He had every right to make a case against Alice Palmer’s name on the ballot – she got it there using illegal signatures – it was proved they were not legitimate. Not a very great way to get one’s self elected, but given that Alice Palmer had gone back on her word and just assumed she would have an easy victory, she was hardly in a position to call foul on the situation. She even admitted that she would have done the same if she were in his place.

    Get your facts straight -

  • Collen

    Did you even see the movie? It takes place in New Orleans and her article simply shows the similarities between the city’s rebirth and that of the movie’s main character.

    Are you knocking her because she has a job? I didn’t know that was a crime.

  • FranSC

    Indeed! It was one of Dean’s 2004 geeks who realized the loophole in using caucuses in republican states to run up the delegate count for the democratic candidate of their choice. Susan Ethridge and others have called this ‘smart’ and ‘shrewed’ on Obama’s part.

    Perhaps it could have been had it not been contaminated and criminalized with the fraud of MoveOn.Org and whoever else helped pack those caucus meetings with out-of-state people bused in, and MoveOn’s instructions to the under 34-year-old demographic group they signed up online to attend and to take over the meetings. The numbers were inflated by this group to give fraudulent and fake victories to Obama.

    Dean and the DNC accepted this fraud since O was their choice. Not even the courts can overule them. The courts have refused to get involved in party politics.

    It was mangled all right – but by design.

  • FranSC

    When Dean attended that forum just days after the election, he must have already seen the hand-writing on the wall. He asked to comment on the sexism and misogyny in the campaign. He seemed to be singing a different tune and defending Hillary to the hilt on what she endured. As we all said, “too little, too late”.

    Supposedly, Obama told him on the night he accepted the nomination that he could not have done it without him. The problem probably lies with people like Emanuel and James Carville who almost came to blows with Dean over the 50-state strategy.

    I am hopeful Dean is so outraged by the treatment he has received that he will write a tell-all book. He should know all the dirt on all of them.

  • FranSC

    I’m with you, Catherine. As angry as the Clintons were after those primaries, I knew something had to be up with all that kissing up to Obama. The Clintons are the smartest most pragmatic politicians this country has ever had.

    Obama and his team of gangsters don’t hold a candle.

  • FranSC

    And when I see her disgusting face come on, I run for the remote.

  • elise

    He did so much more than that, whoframedrudy. He was the one in charge when the decision was made to strip FL/MI of all their delegates without consideration of their efforts, esp. FL, to abide by the date set for primaries and contrary to party rules. He was responsible for allowing the other four states, (SC,NH,NV,IA) to change their dates without penality. He was completely silent about the racism charges, which he knew were false, against Bill Clinton and said nothing about the blatant sexism in the media and Obama’s campaign. As someone said up thread, what goes around comes around or, I prefer Karma.

  • Hermagoras

    It bothers me because Susan UnPC made a false charge — that Obama was not a co-sponsor of the Lilly Ledbetter Act. In fact, as anybody can easily determine, Obama was a co-sponsor from the beginning, but Susan linked to a list of co-sponsors after Obama had resigned from the Senate, as though that proved something. When called on this, in comment after comment, she did not change.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Proof? You have been expelling a lot of gas but nary a link to some credible evidence that he was a co-sponsor from the beginning. So when you do provide the link, you best ensure that it is from a credible source and that it documents that he was a co-sponsor from the beginning.

  • mary

    Excellent post on that Obamyopic habit of throwing good people under his Bus. It’ll come back to bite the infidel on the as* in 4 years hopefully.
    Kathleen S. is a Catholic who personally doesn’t believe in abortion made available (as if women would ask now that the RU486 pill is on the market!) but will abide by the law.
    Ultra conservative, she is very respectful of others’ opinion and let’s face it the moron Prez could have picked Daschle, a shyster who altho not a CHicagoan mobster like Thugsie Barry, was licking the posteriors of every pharma around….
    No, Kathleen is alright. But I can’t help noticing that it’s only by default that he picks a Woman!

    Barry is too busy sending l7,000 soldiers to AfganniLand of no return, while having the nerve to say to the CBC journalist that he “believe in diplomacy and Development…not military solutions…”

    What a goddam A. Liar!

  • mary

    Collen

    Sweetie, you gotta admit that Obamyopia’s greatest asset is not empathetic gratitude!

    “Periodically, Barack will feel down and start launching attacks against (X) to boost his appeal”….

  • mary

    Catherine

    Yes! Obummer (incompetent a**hat!) is Dr. Frankenstein and his monster is the body politic itself. The country will take decades to recover from his duplicitous misogyny during the primary and his active infection of the media with obamyopia…

    I’ll pray and light a candle the day that this incompetent AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PREZ gets his dues… He played the Race Card disgustingly….

    “Gee, I don’t look like them here Prezidents on the dollar bill”… What a shyster….

  • FranSC

    Whoframedrudy, they DID sandbag Hillary on purpose! At least by 2006 the decision was made by Howard Dean and the DNC plus party leadership of at least Pelosi all of whom decided to win at any and all costs.

    If Dean couldn’t be president, he at least wanted to be responsible for getting one elected. Dean and James Carville had come to near blows about his 50-state strategy and Carville had called for Dean’s resignation as Chairman of the DNC. Perhaps since Carville and others were loyal to the Clintons, Dean figured he would not get cooperation from that wing for his own agenda which was to be responsible for electing the next president. Plus BO fit the hi-tech mold better that had been responsible for Dean’s short-lived success.

    Pelosi, no feminist other than her belief in reproductive freedom of choice despite being a life-long Catholic, has a history of wanting to be the only woman at the table of men and has never supported or mentored another woman that might usurp her power or worse, replace her.

    Plus, like Dean, she no doubt knew BO would NEED her help and influence while Hillary would not. She could envision how powerful a BO presidency would be for her with this neophyte, clueless president.

    Pelosi undermined Hillary at every turn without ever mentioning her name and relentlessly lied that she was uncommitted. For example, in interview after interview, Pelosi continually spoke about the primary being a delegate race and whoever reached the magic number of delegates would win the nomination. Pelosi’s daughter was on a book tour using themes in her new book from Obama’s campaign, but like her mother, lied that she was neutral in the race.

    Donna Brazile, part of JJJr’s race-baiting team, threatened to resign if the selection of the nominee came down to superdelegates. Donna’s voice was mute when the paid-off superdelegates put Obama over the top.

    So, Whoframedrudy, whatever you want to call it – sandbagged, framed, betrayed, Hillary was royally screwed from the top down, to put it politely!

  • FranSC

    Thank you, jbjd! This is probably the most crucial piece of this puzzle. I would love to think Pelosi, Dean, Brazile, JJJr, et al could go to jail for defrauding the American people with all they did to fraudulently influence the outcome of this election. Crimes have been committed here.

  • FranSC

    As far as Obama being miffed about Dean not giving him enough help on FL/MI, this was about the time (Feb & Mar) the Hillary supporters began to be very vocal about what looked like Dean’s favoritism toward Obama with regard to those two states.

    Caught red-handed, Dean then felt forced to act, at least publicly, like he should have been from the start – neutral. Dean surely did his part to help Obama at the May 29th DNC committee meeting primarily made up of white men and black women who decided Hillary’s fate with regard to FL/MI – two groups that overwhelmingly supported Obama. In fact, the black women were moving over daily to the Obama train after being committed to Hillary, aka, Maxine waters.

    On the disagreement of funds for the convention, it was my understanding that the DNC was basically broke and could not raise the money for the convention. The DNC was then moved to Chicago with Pelosi chairing the convention. Dean had no say-so in how the money was spent since it had to be raised by the O campaign. Dean did ensure that there would be no roll-call vote and Obama would have smooth sailing at the convention. Hillary supporters know a thing or two about that.

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