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Remembering The Past Is A Key To The Present

As you know no doubt know, Obama just took his first big trip abroad as president … to Ottawa. That got me to thinking – it has been almost a year since Canadian TV reported that Obama’s aide, Austan Goolsbee, was assuring Canada that NAFTA was safe and sound, despite Obama’s campaign promises to renegotiate NAFTA while campaigning in the Rust Belt. Remember that? If you need a refresher, here it is:


Obama campaign mum on NAFTA contact with Canada
. Despite repeated requests, Barack Obama’s campaign is still neither verifying nor denying a CTV report that a senior member of the team made contact with the Canadian government — via the Chicago consulate general — regarding comments Obama made about NAFTA.

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On Wednesday, CTV reported that a senior member of Obama’s campaign called the Canadian government within the last month — saying that when Senator Obama talks about opting out of the free trade deal, the Canadian government shouldn’t worry. The operative said it was just campaign rhetoric not to be taken seriously.

The Obama campaign told CTV late Thursday night that no message was passed to the Canadian government that suggests that Obama does not mean what he says about opting out of NAFTA if it is not renegotiated.

However, the Obama camp did not respond to repeated questions from CTV on reports that a conversation on this matter was held between Obama’s senior economic adviser — Austan Goolsbee — and the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago.

Earlier Thursday, the Obama campaign insisted that no conversations have taken place with any of its senior ranks and representatives of the Canadian government on the NAFTA issue. On Thursday night, CTV spoke with Goolsbee, but he refused to say whether he had such a conversation with the Canadian government office in Chicago. He also said he has been told to direct any questions to the campaign headquarters.

During a candidates’ debate Tuesday, both Democratic party leadership contenders — Obama and Hillary Clinton — suggested they would opt out of the North American Free Trade Agreement if core labour and environmental standards weren’t renegotiated.

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On Thursday, the Canadian embassy in Washington issued a complete denial.

“At no time has any member of a presidential campaign called the Canadian ambassador or any official at the embassy to discuss NAFTA,” it said in a statement.

But on Wednesday, one of the primary sources of the story, a high-ranking member of the Canadian embassy, gave CTV more details of the call. He even provided a timeline. He has since suggested it was perhaps a miscommunication.

The denial from the embassy was followed by a denial from Senator Obama.

“The Canadian government put out a statement saying that this was just not true, so I don’t know who the sources were,” said Obama.

Sources at the highest levels of the Canadian government — who first told CTV that a call was made from the Obama camp — have reconfirmed their position.

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However, Harper had a warning to anyone contemplating renegotiation of the trade deal.

“If a future president actually did want to open up NAFTA, which I highly doubt, then Canada would obviously have some things we would want to discuss,” Harper said.

My, my – was that really only a year ago? Oh, yes – Obama was saying one thing to people in the Midwest, and apparently, saying something quite the opposite on the down low in Canada.

Lo and behold, it seems the Canadian report was right, at least according to this NY Times article regarding Obama’s recent trip, Nafta Looming Over Obama’s Canada Trip :

As a candidate, Barack Obama courted votes in the Rust Belt by suggesting he might renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement, a pact he criticized as not “good for America.”

Now Mr. Obama is about to make his first foreign trip as president to Canada, the United States’ largest trading partner — and he is sounding a strikingly different message.

With Canadians up in arms over “Buy America” provisions in President Obama’s economic recovery package, and Prime Minister Stephen Harper warning the United States not to back away from its international treaty obligations, Mr. Obama, who will make a day trip to Ottawa on Thursday, is no longer emphasizing the idea of reopening Nafta.

Instead, he and his senior advisers are talking up the booming trade relationship between Canada and the United States — the largest trade partnership in the world, the White House says — and limiting their Nafta message to revamping side agreements on environmental and labor protections.

Well, golly gee. Yet another campaign promise proven to be a lie. Raise your hand if you are surprised! Yeah, I thought not.

The article continues:

In an interview with the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation on Tuesday, the president said there were “a lot of sensitivities right now” about renegotiating trade pacts “because of the huge decline in world trade.” As he tries to right the struggling American economy, Mr. Obama pledged to do so in a way that would enhance, rather than suppress, trade between the two nations.

“It’s not in anybody’s interest to see that trade diminish,” he said.

Trade is an issue that has long bedeviled Democrats, and this is especially so for Mr. Obama. Trade has split the party along regional and economic lines, pitting those who see a globalized economy as inevitable and productive against those in economically depressed areas of the nation, like Ohio and Michigan, who see the price of free trade, in lost jobs and declining wages, as simply too high for the American worker to bear.

The last Democratic president, Bill Clinton, fought hard to pass Nafta (sic), and made many in his party uncomfortable — including, eventually, his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, who like Mr. Obama talked of reopening the pact when she was running for president.

Interesting.

Ah, yes, Obama continues to renege on campaign promises made, now that he’s actually in the White House. His latest is yet another stand with a Bush Doctrine, Siding with Bush, Obama says Afghan detainees have no U.S. rights. Oh, what a surprise!!! Just like the Extraordinary Rendition and State Secrets part Obama kept – I have been saying this for MONTHS and months – Obama is Bush III. This is why he voted for FISA, too. He wanted all the same “tools” available to him that Bush managed to secure. Here’s the nitty-gritty:

The 600-plus detainees at Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan cannot use U.S. courts to challenge their imprisonment, the Justice Department said today in a two-sentence court filing.

Last summer the Supreme Court gave al-Qaeda and Taliban suspects held at Guantanamo Bay the right to challenge their detention. But the Justice Department argues that Bagram is different: it’s in a war zone and the prisoners are the result of continuing military action.

“They’ve now embraced the Bush policy that you can create prisons outside the law,” said Jonathan Hafetz of the American Civil Liberties Union, who has represented several detainees.

“The hope we all had in President Obama to lead us on a different path has not turned out as we’d hoped,” said Tina Monshipour Foster, a human rights attorney representing a detainee at the Bagram. “We all expected better.”

The decision also disappointed Amnesty International, which issued a report calling for judicial review of the detentions.

Uh, yes. Again, groups are “disappointed” – the ACLU, Amnesty International, HRC, and on, and on. All “disappointed” that Obama is not doing what he said he would do.

They SHOULD be disappointed in themselves for believing his lies, for pretending that his “hope and change” message was a substitute for certifiable experience and an actual RECORD on which to base his claims. They’re “disappointed.” Yeah. Join the club. I’m “disappointed” that all of these groups bought this crap in the first place, and stuck us with this guy.

Sigh. Once again, though, there is one bright light, one adult in the room who DOES instill some faith. Oh, and she actually HAS a record on which to base her actions. Oh, yes, Sec. Clinton. She is winding up her first trip abroad as the Secretary of State, and has been doing a fine job of it. Here she is arriving in China:

And while in China, Secretary Clinton has been focusing on a number of issues, particularly Climate Change. Hopefully, this will be an issue on which our two countries can work together successfully (Sec. Clinton did mention Tibet, but for now, the Obama Administration is keeping a low profile on the issue of human rights).

Hmmm – I wonder what will be next on Obama’s list of promises to break? Oh, that could be a whole new party game, come to think of it! We already have the drinking game Jon Stewart proposed (taking a drink whenever Obama pauses while talking), so why not have a “Which Promise Is Going Down The Toilet Next?” game? Hey, it’s one the whole family can play together! What a uniter!! Which one do you think is next?

  • chris from Chicago

    What a surprise a politician who says one thing to get elected and then turns around and does another! However, that having been said..Mr. Obama ran his WHOLE campaign touting change, and transparency, and letting the sunshine in, and posting bills on line 5 days so the public could look and see what they were paying for..blah blah blah…he sold his own holiness so well that they are selling pictures of him with a halo on his head! people took a chance with him and in final analysis all they got is a neer-do-well buffoon, who has so far spent 800K plus to keep anyone from seeing his COLB!
    What does this guy have to offer anyway?
    He has no experience, he is a consummate prevaricator,
    his cabinet is rife with lobbyists and tax evaders, his leadership role so far has been to stick it to the American people while at the same time demoralizing them at every turn, the market has tanked, and even his die-hard supporters are taking a second look…too late this is what you bought with your uninformed vote people, a bull-shitter royale who is governing by the seat of his [on fire] pants
    He has obviously lied about a great deal of things… why on gods good earth should we believe anything that comes out of that mouth? I can’t wait to hear what he is going to lie about on Tuesday!

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      Well, Chris – I couldn’t have said it better myself! :-)

    • Ferd Berfle

      He has obviously lied about a great deal of things… why on gods good earth should we believe anything that comes out of that mouth? I can’t wait to hear what he is going to lie about on Tuesday!

      That One has a useful application that comes with his blackberry called a random-whopper generator. He himself doesn’t know the lie until it is given to him. That way he has culpable deniability-the notion that I knew anything, blah, blah, blah.

      • AlexisM

        If Obama’s lips are moving, he’s lying. Good for him going to Canada. We already know what a joke Canada thinks Obama is.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlcJOukNsAM

        Rick Santelli responds to the attack on him by the White House and the press. Obama is nothing but a mafioso thug, who will beat the crap out of you if you don’t agree with him.

        • Seattle Moss

          Good Morning Alexis M,

          Rick Santelli represents the last gasp of those that made money in the old economy before Sept 15th.
          We should all be alarmed at his desperation and Kudlow’s stance which are the same as the look we all had when the twin towers collapsed.

          Now that Obama wants to put the final screw in the coffin which is raising taxes on the rich who have lost 40-60% of their wealth and tax businesses who have lost more than 40% of their business it’s almost curtain time for the rest of the economy.

          • mountainaires

            Oh, I disagree completely, Seattle Moss. I agree wholeheartedly with Santelli’s original rant. I think Kudlow is overplaying his “outrage” here, in demogoguery; however, I think Gibb’s reaction is the “desperate” one. Santelli is right; he struck a nerve.

            This mortgage bailout is outrageous; those of us who have no debt, or are not threatened with foreclosure, have ALSO lost value in our homes whether or not there are foreclosures on every corner in the neighborhood.

            EVERY home in this country has essentially lost value, and will continue to lose value. The incredible, breathtaking moral hazard this administration is engaging in, is infuriating. We are rewarding people for engaging in mass stupidity.

            I resent the hell out of it, and it won’t save homes from foreclosure. Let them foreclose; let the banks reap what they have sowed, through their own “caution to the winds” risk management policies.

            People need to know that there is a risk. But Obama’s plan is trying to pretend that there is no risk for anyone–Uncle Sam will bankrupt this country to save losers and banksters. It’s outrageous!

            • Seattle Moss

              Mountain
              I have read your post a few times and find no disagreement.
              The big problem now is Berkshire Hathaway.

              From what I see a nationalization of the banks will wipe out the stockholders and then put pressure on Buffetts stocks.

              The dow could go to 5000 with the crash of BH.
              Unfortunately we are all in the same boat for which there is no escape….

          • AlexisM

            Morning Seattle!

            I pray everyone with money takes it out of this country immediately. As much as I love America, what Obama and his thieving crooks in Congress are doing to us is pathetic. Let them destroy the economy. We’ll move, take our money and businesses with us, and when these criminals are gone in 2012 we will come back and rebuild. That’s the only way I see this country surviving.

            • Seattle Moss

              Alexis,
              I don’t think there is a safe place for Americans to live in the world.
              I’m tied to my company and those that work for it.
              I’m going to stay and fight…
              Like my forefathers before me sometimes your moment arrives to preserve liberty and freedom..That moment has come for all of us.

              • AlexisM

                I wanted to stay and fight. Sigh. But I just can’t stand Obama and what he is doing to us. I don’t think I can tolerate even ONE more year of that azzhole. Much less FOUR years of watching him destroy us. I pray for impeachment, which might not be such an out there prayer since people seem to be catching on that they’ve been conned.

            • lark

              Alexis, the rich are going to have to pay more in taxes. There is no other way about it. But they need to demand more for their buck too. They need to demand a leaner federal bureaucracy. And they need to demand that industrial licenses be expedited and met with simpler environmental requirements. We need to re-industrialize our country to become energy efficient. Engineers need to be given freedom to work outside the codes and to invent new ways of living that are more economical and easier to maintain. Rich people need to have a ways to patronize engineers the way the Medicci family used to patronize the arts in old 16 century Italy. We need to begin to revere engineering and reward them with free pizzas for life.

              • AlexisM

                Why should the “rich” support this country? That’s ridiculous. Everyone should be taxed the same amount. If it’s 10% it’s 10% for everyone. If it’s 50% it’s 50% for everyone. Now we will be a country of lazy ass freeloaders which is not what America is supposed to be. If the left spent more time trying to create something for themselves, rather than being jealous and angry because some people are successful, then this country would prosper again. But as long as we are a welfare state we are doomed. And I’m not paying for this crap. They can haul me off to jail but I’m not being taxed 85% so that some loser can have a free house. Not even a PRAYER I pay for that. I’ll hide my money in my mattress first.

                • lark

                  The rich actually are the ones who support the country. It has always been like that. They need to pay more in taxes but get more benefits for their tax dollars. Tit for tat. More taxes in exchange for more industrialization. More taxes in exchange for more research and development credits. Capisce?

                  The fact is the country is broke.

                  • The Real HC

                    The fact is the government has been broke before. As long as it isnt robbing its citizens for wealth redistribution or creating real estate ponzi schemes it really doesnt matter.

                    The people can be healthy and wealthy and the government can be small and poor. In fact some of our best times have been when this was the case.

                    I know that socialism has been reached in the hearts and minds of the majority of Americans because people cannot even distinguish between the wealth of the people and the wealth of the government.

              • The Real HC

                How do you think these mythical “rich” can accomplish any of these things? The balance has tipped to the government from the people. Dont expect these vilified “rich” to come save us now.

                “Rich people” cannot remove the overly complex labor laws that have removed manufacturing jobs from the country. Americans do not want these jobs in their country – they are dirty and messy – and we cannot compete with the places that do want them. America CHOSE to not be a manufacturing nation for better or worse.

                Rich people should “patronize engineers” like the deMedicis supported great artists of the past? I dont think feudalism is the answer here. Free markets should favor the clever engineers who bring new products to the market. They should not succeed through “rich people patronage” or “government patronage” but through voluntary transactions with people who want to buy their stuff. It shouldnt be a battle with regulations and taxation to set up a business, develop new products and sell them. But it is. And it has nothing to do with “rich people”.

                As we sprint down the path to socialism I would not expect these mythical “rich people” to pick up the tab. They will leave the system and the rest of us will get stuck with the bill.

                • lark

                  True.

                  • AlexisM

                    You want my answer?

                    First, we do a massive INS sweep of this country and send the illegals who drain our country HOME. For GOOD.

                    Then, we take THEIR jobs, the jobs that lazy slobs WON’T do and we make them do them. So some fat ass wants to sit on welfare because it’s better than picking lettuce? Too bad. No welfare for you.

                    If we let someone out of prison, on parole, they get a job or go BACK to prison. Period. THEY can take the jobs the illegals do.

                    We need to take back our country, insist that people work, instead of stay on the dole. We need small business to prosper so they can HIRE AMERICAN PEOPLE. The “evil” rich do support this country. If everyone wants to live in Venezuela, where the wealth has LEFT THE COUNTRY, then they can have it. The rich shouldn’t be penalized for literally supporting this country. Period. Otherwise, they should leave.

                    As for me, if this crap continues, I will shut down my business, fire my staff, and sit on my ass too.

                    • Ferd Berfle

                      First, we do a massive INS sweep of this country and send the illegals who drain our country HOME. For GOOD.

                      And put up a BARRIER along the southern border and not a “virtual” fence or any other such bs. Immigration should be according to the rules and I don’t mean mob rules.

                    • AlexisM

                      The funny thing is…If I wanted to get a job in the UK, France, etc., do you think it would be easy? I’ve tried. At least they have some pride in Nationalism. This country just wants every other country’s rejects and detritus, just so they can get a new voting pool. Very sick and sad. Yes, we need to create SOUND barriers and borders and stop the mass influx of dead weight on this country.

                    • The Real HC

                      Actually, if everyone works for what they have and we have a small government immigrants really arent a problem.

                      Its when we set up a huge “Country Club America” with free housing and a a huge benefits package funded by high taxes and a complex legal system that it becomes a problem.

                      Let the hard working immigrants in, let them sink or swim with the rest of us. The lazy ones will move on and the quality ones will stick.

                      Lose the huge government and a lot of these problems go away.

                    • Ferd Berfle

                      Let the hard working immigrants in, let them sink or swim with the rest of us. The lazy ones will move on and the quality ones will stick.

                      Only, though, according to the rules and not simply through the over-running of the southern border. This is a nation of laws and not mob rules, which was the only point I was trying to make, as I am not against immigration per se.

                    • TeakwoodKite

                      Ferd, California could balance it’s budget if not for illegal aliens.

                      I am FOR immigration as long as it is done following our laws.
                      If one thinks the laws are in need of change then go for it.

                      Add this ISSUE to the BO 180 club.

                    • AlexisM

                      We no longer have the resources to take every immigrant in. It was different when our families came here. They started businesses, contributed, and made this country a better place. Now it’s all about the free ride. Can you imagine Nancy Pelosi’s ignorant desire to take our 401ks and give them to illegals “so they can have a better quality of life?” Uhhh…doesn’t that sort of signal that we’ve gone way off the deep end? That’s insane. Elderly AMERICAN citizens, who worked to support their retirement in their twilight years, should lose their 401ks so ILLEGALS CAN HAVE A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE? Come on. That’s ridiculous and pathetic.

                    • Ferd Berfle

                      I am FOR immigration as long as it is done following our laws.
                      If one thinks the laws are in need of change then go for it.

                      Spot on, twk.

                      We no longer have the resources to take every immigrant in.

                      That’s for sure.

                    • lark

                      First, we do a massive INS sweep of this country and send the illegals who drain our country HOME. For GOOD.

                      That is simply not possible and anti-religious, that is, anti-charitable. We can enforce the border and prevent illegal immigration, but once established, they need to permitted to stay and raise their families here.

                      2. Picking lettuce is good work. I would do it. What’s difficult is to attend the lettuce while its growing.

                      You are not thinking too well Alexis. There are thousands of opportunities right now to be entrepreneurial, and most illegals are entrepreneurial. The problem is ‘rent’ is too high. Once real estate collapses, we can rebuild our country.

                    • AlexisM

                      lark, no, not if they are illegal. Get it? The word “illegal” means against the law. Period. I would be deported from any other country for being there “illegally.”

                    • AlexisM

                      Thank you for pointing out the dilemma in California Teakwood…I live here, having come here almost 30 years ago. The quality of life here has disintegrated to nothing but a slum because of the illegals. Way different than when I got here, but that was also the beginning of gangs. My first year here, at USC, was the first time gangs had initiations to literally SKIN live people. We would find them in the dumpsters in back of our dorms. Nice, huh? From then on, every year the lifestyle here has degenerated more and more. No one speaks English. The LAUSD language is only 5% English. If I sent my kids to a public school in that area, MY KID would have to SPEAK SPANISH. It has to stop. This is an amazing state, but we can’t afford this crap. And, yes, our budget would be fine if we could control the illegals.

                    • NoBamaNoWay

                      i agree with you there, alexis. when these people come to america and refuse to *become american* but rather try to change america to be like their home countries, that is a threat to america, plain and simple.

                      heck, when i lived in holland for 3 years (when dad was working for US gov’t) i always tried to speak dutch to people, even though they usually just responded by speaking in english. i would never have dreamed of thinking that they should have tax-payer supported schools to teach american kids in english so we won’t have to learn dutch. jeezus christ.

            • NoBamaNoWay

              seriously, alexis, where are you going to take your money? china? europe? cuba? america’s still the best place to do business that i know of.

          • lark

            Correct. Besides, halving the deficit after it grew to 2 trillion is worthless talk of a ‘no we can’t’ idiot. The budget of the U.S. needs to be balanced. Period. And it should be done by funding oil exploration and getting a good cut of the profit of oil revenues from new fields. The Fed. Gov. needs to close down all federal civil service field offices in the 50 states and territories and circumscribe itself to Washington D.C. Period. No more intrusion of the federal government in the business of the states.

            • PamFlorida

              The Constitution preserves each state’s sovereignity in the Bill of Rights as mandated by the Articles of Confederation.
              There are several states that have passed legal declarations re-asserting those rights, many have introduced similar bills in their legislatures, and others are considering doing the same. These actions are not for the purpose of secession, rather to assert the fact that the 3 branches of the Federal government exist and govern with the consent of the individual states and the People therein.
              New Hampshire has a website on State’s Rights and Sovereignity: NHLiberty.org

              More info at:
              http://www.opednews.com/articles/Firestorm-Brewing-Between-by-Lance-L-Landon-090217-130.html

          • The Real HC

            Yes, this “eat the rich” attitude appeals to the populist masses but its very damaging to the economy and the country.

            • Seattle Moss

              Alan Greenspan said this was a hundred year moment…
              George Soro’s said that it resembled the collapse of the Soviet Union..

              The last time there was a hundred year moment they had the Bolshvik revolution which was the total destruction of the wealth and business class..
              I think we are seeing this again

              The second coming of Communism

              • lark

                I agree. The oligarchy of the bureaucracy. We will not tolerate it. If the Federal Government becomes an end into itself, we will reject it and boot them out of our states.

              • FLDemFem

                It looks more like the fall of the Roman Empire. That fell because the agricultural infrastructure was allowed to deteriorate and the importation of food made the Empire dependent on others for survival. Our current economy is very dependent on other nations for manufactured goods, to the point that we have enormous trade deficits with them. We buy much more than we produce or sell. This is not a good way to run a business. What we need to do is once again become self-sufficient as a nation. We used to be, we didn’t have all the fancy crap we have now, and our diets weren’t as varied, but the lifestyle was healthy and affordable. And the country was hard-working and prosperous. So let’s take a page out of the books of our ancestors and get back to basics. If we can’t make it, don’t buy it, if we don’t grow it, don’t eat it. This is not to say that we shouldn’t buy things from other countries..I for one would die if I didn’t have my morning coffee. But we do grow it here, in Hawaii. So, import some to make up for the fact that Hawaii can’t grow as much as there is demand for, but use the homegrown stuff first. Back in the 60s there was a saying, not about coffee, but it works for it, “Homegrown, the finest kind”. We should get back to homegrown everything, it is the finest kind, and good for the country too.

                • AlexisM

                  I agree 100%. “Buy American” should be our mantra.

        • obamastolemyboyfriend

          Love that video! Rick Santelli for President (or how about Hillary’s VP) 2012!

          Gibbs: I suggest that he “download it, print it, and begin to read it!” Very good advice Mr. Gibbs. Too bad you didn’t give that advice to Congress about the stinkulus bill! Ugh. I hope I never meet any of the jokers because it will be very difficult to not slap them and get arrested!

          A do over was mentioned in the video, too. I concur. I would love a do over of election nightmare )08!

      • I’m a Linda too

        Well, he many not know all the lies he will be telling until some are given to him, but this Hustler has shown to be a consummate liar.

        I remember how he effortlessly would claim that he never heard Wright utter those words in church. OK, sure, he could have been told “always deny”. I just realized, that’s why he always does opposite of what he claims or says.

        But, remember when asked in the debate, like the NAFTA thingy, when Hillary brought up his longtime friend, associate and fundraiser Antonin “Tony Slumlord” Rezko, Obama replied, “I’ve only done about 5 hours of work for him”.

        America should have thrown him to the curb when they saw the reality. Their 20 year friendship, getting on boards to direct money to him in IL State, bought his home, fundraised for his campaign. They can’t claim they didn’t know.

        As a local Chicago reporter wrote, “Yes, Obama is a cynic and a liar. Having spent about an hour alone with the man, I also think he’s very shallow, a rank hustler.”

        • Ferd Berfle

          It was a snark, Linda. I am cognizant of penchant for unbridled lying.

    • Chris

      And tonight he dances to the music of Earth, Wind and Fire at the WH. He sure likes concerts and parties and plane rides on the people’s dime doesn’t he? Life’s one big happy party for him despite the mess he’s created. He will be surprised when it all falls in like a house of cards. In the meantime, he’s costing us wway too much money.

  • Linda Anselmi

    Just have to say that is a great picture of Hillary! She looks fabulous!

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      I thought so, too, Linda! And bear in mind, that was taken right after she stepped off the plane in China, near the end of her journey.

      Oh, I like that idea, too, abt the team sports – people can trade different promises or let one go and pick up another one…Sounds good!

  • Linda Anselmi

    “Which Promise Is Going Down The Toilet Next?” game?

    RRRA – Maybe it can be a team sport. You draft 10 promises for each team. And, then see which team has the last promise standing.

    • obamastolemyboyfriend

      That game would be over too quickly. How about where we watch a promise survivor and challenge them to keep one promise? The one who actually keeps a promise wins. We’d wait years to see who could do it!

  • Madam DeFarge

    I’m bugged by Obama’s lack of spine in dealing with Wall Street.
    These hyper wealthy goons manipulated his victory, and screwed over Clinton because they knew she had a backbone.
    Now, everytime dems say something they don’t like, they hose the stock market. Victimizing unwitting stockholders, who watch in agony as their investment plummets.
    Since Obama will never have the balls to deal with them, investors need to get together, find out the principals in the Wall Street Mafia, and get their asses.
    This covert clique owns America.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Which one do you think is next?

    Hope.

    He ran on the “Yes we can” platform and hammered on that theme ceaselessly until it became a mindless chant. And lo, what is the first thing he does upon taking office? Why use the bully pulpit to talk everything down from the economy to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan–no we can’t. Bad economy, gloom and doom, etc. If he is so smart, why did he play up the positive knowing that there were dark clouds in the immediate future? And if he didn’t know there were dark clouds, why on earth is he even President? He’s more about wealth and fame for himself and not hope and change for the rest. I truly worry about this sham artist and the effect he is going to have on our future.

  • chris from Chicago

    Rick Santarelli is the ONLY person to have spoken honestly on any NBC affiliated channel…those of us who want should send him a supportive email..
    I am sure that he would appreciate the emotional support!

    To contact Rick Santelli at CNBC:

    https://register.cnbc.com/email/EmailSupport.jsp

    To contact Rick Santelli at his Tea Party Site

    http://www.reteaparty.com/contact/

    • http://deleted Aaron

      And now he is being attacked personally by the White House and Obama’s minions in the media. This is very scary and represents a rapid decline into openly silencing opposition from the bully pulpit.

      • FLDemFem

        I read that with horror.. the story about Gibbs whining about Santelli. I remember when Richard Nixon was being taken to the woodshed by the Washington Post, which culminated in Watergate, and he complained about the press in private, but knew better than to do it in public. Of course, the press back then was a totally different animal than the tame puppies we have running around today, wagging tails and licking boots. They actually investigated and reported on matters important to the country instead of being a built-in cheering section for whatever twit happens to be sitting in the White House. They were also fairly neutral in reporting on political figures, even if a paper endorsed a candidate, they still checked him out, carefully, up to and beyond the election. Now they just drool and giggle. Ick.

  • http://deleted Aaron

    i read somewhere else that Hillary said to the Chinese “Human rights should not stand in the way of economic recovery.” If she said this it would be very troubling and indicate that the elite will do what they need to do in order to maintain the status quo.

    • AlexisM

      She has to say it. We have borrowed so much from China that they own us.

      • Ferd Berfle

        Agreed. She is no position to argue the point at this time, unfortunately.

        • http://deleted Aaron

          The troubling aspect of this statement is its application at home in the US. You can justify many positions when the end justifies the means.

          • Ferd Berfle

            You can justify many positions when the end justifies the means.

            While such is not good policy and I would normally be right with you on this one, the current situation with China is not one of choice on her part. Had we kept our own economic house in order the last 8 years, we might be in a different position. And That One is only making things even worse. She is truly between a rock and a hard place. She needs to be SoS so the Administration has at least one adult in charge but she also has to walk a very thin line. I don’t envy her the task she has.

            • http://deleted Aaron

              Here is the quote “We can’t let human rights interfere with the global economic crisis, the global climate change crisis and the security crises.” The last time I checked all of these issues are inextricably linked with human rights? As far as the comment on the last 8 years goes, I have to say that this problem was created over decades and the current crisis is a symptom of the root that exists.

              The reality is that our economy and political superstructure has been manipulated a carved away by special interest groups for quite some time. This is why the recovery will take quite some time and it continues unabated today. It is hard to generate revenue for the government when you refuse to tax people and corporations appropriately or enforce rules effectively. Our legal system and regulations are overly complicated and burdensome and offer only the rich, powerful or politically connected justice. By refusing to hold people, whom we see eye to eye with on many issues, responsible for their transgressions in unrelated areas we undermine the strength of our arguments, against such transgressions and corrupt the integrity of our political apparatus.

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      Remember, too, that she is having to tout OBAMA’S line on human rights, not her own. Groups were protesting already that Obama is not putting this issue front and center. They bought his lies, too, apparently.

      Yet another difference between what might have been and what we have…

      • Ferd Berfle

        et another difference between what might have been and what we have…

        Slight correction, RRRA:

        What “should” have been and what was forced on us.

        • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

          Good point, Ferd!

          And Aaron, not necessarily. Clinton doesn’t have to agree with Obama on everything to be able to serve her country well. On this issue, I imagine she has had more than a few conversations with him. I assume she believes she can do more good by being in this position than leaving it to anyone else. You know that I was not crazy abt her taking this job in the first place, but I have to say, I would rather have HER there than just abt anyone else of whom I can think (except maybe Bill) because of her grasp on the issues. While Obama sets the policy, how they get there depends in large part on Clinton. Know what I mean?

          As for Judd Gregg, well, for Obama to take the census from him and put it in the WH was not only illegal, but a HUGE slap in the face to Gregg. The census is one of THE biggest parts of the Commerce Dep’t, so he was hog-tying him from the get-go.

      • http://deleted Aaron

        If she didn’t believe in Obama’s line she wouldn’t have joined his cabinet. Judd Gregg dropped out because of this exact reason.

        • Ferd Berfle

          False dilemma. She could be looking out for the people, knowing good and well what a neophyte he is. Where better to ensure he doesn’t screw up too badly but as SoS.

          • http://deleted Aaron

            Hoping this is a case is not a position that allays my fears. Hope is not a strategy and got us into this position with Obama. Why is this a false dilemma? Do you really think she disagrees with his policies and will be a rogue agent for the American people?

  • I’m a Linda too

    The amazing thing is that his campaign was nothing but lies. I personally could never respect someone-just based upon that, let alone everything else Obama.

    And, speaking of past. Check out this new post on CNN

    Media critic blasts Chris Matthews’ ‘man crush’ on Obama
    Posted: 11:49 AM ET
    Media critic Bernard Goldberg says Chris Matthews has a ‘man crush’ on President Obama.

    (CNN) — It has become one of MSNBC host Chris Matthew’s most infamous lines of the 2008 presidential election:

    “I felt this thrill going up my leg,” Matthews said the night Obama resoundingly defeated rival Hillary Clinton in the Virginia and Maryland Democratic primaries.

    And former CBS News Correspondent Bernard Goldberg, who has long alleged liberal bias in the media, highlighted that line as indicative of the media’s “slobbering” press coverage of candidate Obama during his campaign for the White House.

    “That’s not commentary, that’s a man-crush,” Goldberg declared on CNN’s Reliable Sources Sunday.

    Goldberg, the author of the new book “A Slobbering Love Affair,” credits the media coverage of the 2008 presidential election for ultimately resulting in Barack Obama’s victory.

    He specifically faulted coverage of the prolonged Democratic primary campaign, during which two historic candidates contentiously squared off.

    “I think in elite liberal circles, certainly inside the media, race trumps gender, and that’s why they slobbered over Barack Obama, and took Hillary Clinton to the back room and beat her with a rubber hose,” Goldberg said.

    Goldberg also faulted political journalists for not digging up controversial sermons of the president’s longtime pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, until Obama had already effectively captured his party’s nomination.

    “These tapes were available, you didn’t have to be Woodward or Bernstein to dig them up,” Goldberg said. “If those tapes had come out six months earlier, certainly a year earlier, I don’t think Barack Obama would have been the nominee.

    “I think Hillary Clinton would have been. And I think she would have been the president today,” he continued. “And in that sense, she’s the biggest loser in all of this.”
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/22/media-critic-blasts-chris-matthews-man-crush-on-obama/#comment-2393155

    • obamastolemyboyfriend

      Goldberg is a little slow on the uptake, huh? Or maybe CNN finally has the nerve to tell truth a little. Mancrush tingled a whole year ago!!!!

      But, better late than never!

    • AlexisM

      I have said since day one that Matthews’ adulation of Obama is beyond deranged – more like someone who stalks Madonna or something. He should just come out of the closet and admit his love for Obama has nothing to do with Obama’s competence (none), policies, morals, ethics, etc. for which there would be no foundation for Matthews’ really sick love fest. It IS just a crush. And he helped destroy American because of it.

      • FLDemFem

        Oh please, Tweety is so far back in the closet he can see Narnia. He won’t be coming out anytime soon.

  • TeakwoodKite

    Which one do you think is next?

    Funny you ask Rev. Amy.\\

    Withdrawing from Iraq.

  • mountainaires

    Obama and his “Deadbeatonomics” Stiff Chicago

    [sorry, I just couldn't resist]

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/20/deadbeatonomic-obama-stiffs-chicago-for-127m/

  • Anee

    If you really want to do something to cause shock and awe to the Obama economic theory – then just change your withholding taxes on your paycheck for one month and change it back whenever you want, then they can’t get your money for awhile. I did this on my state withholding taxes because CA wasn’t going to give me a refund or interest on my refund, so why not just keep my money. Just an idea.

    • AlexisM

      I say we don’t have to pay our taxes. Obama is a fraud, not even a NBC so to hell with HIM. Geithner and the other criminals in the cabinet don’t bother paying taxes. AND, the biggest reason not to pay taxes is that we are being “taxed without representation.” None of MY reps whose salaries I pay even bothered reading the Bacon Bill that will raid my income. Too bad for them. But I’m not paying for that crap.

      • http://deleted Aaron

        It is funny that you mention not paying your taxes because I have been thinking about the same thing.

        • AlexisM

          Why in HELL would I pay them? So some slob who signed a mortgage with the Fannie and Freddie crap can sit in a house I pay for and smoke crack all day, laughing at the system? Hell no. I don’t approve of the Bacon Bill for more reasons than the above, obviously, and IMO it’s not going to help us at ALL. I think Nancy Pelosi is mentally ill, literally, and I’m not supporting her Pork. Obama never read the bill either. Why am I paying for that creep to fly all over the country/world on OUR DIME when he’s not doing his job? My interests ARE NOT being protected, therefore I don’t pay.

          [administrator: your anger may be warranted, but please dial it down. You can calmly discuss these problems without making accusations about smoking crack, etc. that are products of your imagination, not fact -- unless you have an article with a link that you can produce. AIM for calm, rational discourse. it is possible.]

      • Tiberius

        Since we don’t like the captain we’re within our rights to try to sink the ship?

        If you want to protest, I suggest you cease using anything and everything that your taxes have paid for. Stay off all streets and highways. They were built with tax dollars. Pull your kids out of public school. If you live in a rural area disconnect your electricity, because rural America was electrified by a federal public works project. Wade all streams and rivers instead of crossing bridges built with tax money. Forget airline travel; traffic control is tax money at work. Forget passenger trains, too. They wouldn’t exist without federal subsidies. Refuse Social Security checks and Medicaid coverage. Get a rifle, because the police are paid with tax money. If your house catches fire you’re stuck with the garden hose, but don’t forget in many areas there wouldn’t be water without tax dollars. And don’t forget to find something to use for currency besides U.S. coins and paper. You should neither spend it nor accept it as payment.

        • AlexisM

          Tiberius,

          Why don’t you go read your 5th grade history text book again? Do you know how America was founded and why? Do you know who fought for your rights to sit on your ass doing nothing but blogging? Would you rather live in Afghanistan? Go ahead. Or else understand the rights of Americans to protest.

          • Tiberius

            Don’t ask me who fought for my rights. I’ve seen the flag flying while watching the wire from a bunker during a rocket attack.

            • Ferd Berfle

              I served, too, and I won’t be accepting any lectures from you or anyone like you.

              As long as I’m paying for this bs because of an incompetent boob like That One, I’ll criticize him, his policies, and his bots all I want. As a veteran, I reserve that right.

              • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

                As a person who went into the public sector and worked my azz off to the detriment of my own health in areas with high concentrations of AA and welfare recipients. I will not be lectured by anyone, including you Tiberiuseless, of how it is or should be.

                Most people like who they are and their situation or they try to make change.

                We are not happy with the status quo, we’re talking change. If you don’t like it, put yourself in your little inflatable dinghy and sail away from the ship.

                If you do that you would be making a good change for yourself. Be proactive.

                • AlexisM

                  Way to GO Buzz. It always amazes me when people like Tiberiuseless rant on with their partisan, anti-American crap. If our forefathers would have just sat on their asses we would all be drinking tea, sending our paychecks to Queen Elizabeth. What’s the MATTER with these nuts?

                • Tiberius

                  Pardon the observation–there’s no meanness intended–but perhaps you should reconsider who might actually drifting off in the rubber dinghy. Try to make a change? Well, there’s the matter of two recent elections, and who’s been put in charge of the big ship for a while as a result.

                  Those with opposing views can either make the best of the situation and try to influence decisions more to own their liking through constructive participation, or totally marginalize themselves by becoming angry obstructionists.

                  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

                    And thus we come to the tricky concept of perception.

                    You like how you perceive the world, yourself, the situation, etc. You have a low tolerance for perceptions that do not match your own.

                    Obstructionism is in the eye of the beholder.

                    Constructive conversation comes with a meeting of the minds, even if it is agree to disagree based.

                    So far, it would appear that you, Tiberiuseless, are only comfortable with your perception of things. Therefore, you are not participating with any sort of comprehension of what is actually being presented here.

                    Obviously, you like Obama. You like that change. But does everyone have to like him also because you do?

                    Does everyone have to communicate only thoughts and ideas that congruently fit into your perception?

                    You are now in the land of cognitive dissonance, friend.

                    Meet us halfway. Agree when there is common ground.
                    We really didn’t come here to have you sit in judgement.

        • Ferd Berfle

          Hey Goob: It’s people like me who pay for those goddamn roads and police and fire protection. It is also people like me who served the country.

          If you want to keep driving on those roads (or even have them much longer) and if you want to continue to be able to post your banal dreck, stop biting the had that feeds you and the people who protect you and your rights, troll. We’re not amused with your sort of self-serving claptrap.

          What an asshat. Yikes.

          • AlexisM

            Typical troll. Yawn.

            • Ferd Berfle

              Truly. This blog certainly gets more than its fair share of the *really* obtuse ones, doesn’t it.

              • AlexisM

                Didn’t we already petition for some smarter ones? Where’s Seattle with that double headed pitchfork dammit. Hunting trolls really should be an Olympic Event IMO.

                • Ferd Berfle

                  Didn’t we already petition for some smarter ones? Where’s Seattle with that double headed pitchfork dammit. Hunting trolls really should be an Olympic Event IMO.

                  LMAO. The smarter bots (IQs between 50 and 100) are either out panhandling or working in the government now. We get the rest. I’m waiting for my pitchfork, too.

                  • AlexisM

                    Yeah, well, Seattle’s a little behind on the manufacture of these much needed forks and torches. What are you bartering with? I just slaved in the kitchen for a day for mine.

                    • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

                      Ah Tiberius is just spouting typical liberal coffeehouse talk.

                      They are big on words and cowardly behavior.

                      Used to be one back when I thought I knew all the answers.

                      Then reality struck.

        • http://deleted Aaron

          I find your response comical because virtually every program you mention is basically a failure at worst or completely lacking at providing substandard service at best. Clear examples public schools and road repair. The public school system is a overall failure, have the you seen the graduation rates and international comparison statistics?

          Most states have a long history in the corruptly doling out of construction dollars associated will road repair and other infrastructure work. SS is bankrupt because the spend the yearly surplus instead of actually holding it in trust. Electrical companies are a legislated monpoly with profit margins of around 13% while less regulated oil companies make around 8%. I wonder why this is could it have something to do with the political appointees who over the group.

          Cops respond to crime after the fact and almost never defend people from crime as it happens and corruption is a huge issue in every city and state. The only thing I give government credit for is EMS response service, 911 works quite well. My point is that we pay for a lot more than we ever get and when we have the audacity to complain we hear shrill responses like yours.

          • Tiberius

            You would prefer being totally at the gentle mercies of unregulated, profit-oriented corporations?

            How well they’ve handled the inner workings of our nation’s financial system without intrusive bureaucratic oversight…

            Poison peanut butter, anyone?

            • AlexisM

              ROFLMAO…How about handing the keys to the Kingdom to your pals who tanked America due to the Freddie and Fannie welfare mess. Guess you’re one of the ones that is sooo angry that some people in this country earn a good living and you want your free stuff, a free house, etc. too!

              • Tiberius

                Apparently you haven’t yet figured out who looted the American financial system. That’s hardly surprising, because their names are never mentioned. All we hear are the names of the companies they left in ruins as they excaped with their personal fortunes, moving on to plush retirements or their next exploits. All we see is the global wreckage they left behind for everybody else to clean up.

                • AlexisM

                  Oh, yeah, right. It was a GOP conspiracy. ROFLMAO again.

                  • Tiberius

                    That’s what you heard, not what I said.

                • Tiberius

                  escaped

                  Personally, I think partisan political bickering is much appreciated by the real culprits. It keeps the media spotlight off them.

                  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

                    Then why do you relish in engaging in partisan bickering?

                    Refer to your own previous posts on this thread, if you’re confused.

            • http://deleted Aaron

              Yes I would! We already are but most are lulled in a state of complacency because they are told, “The government will save or protect you.”. In the situation that you describe at least everyone would be forced to admit that they are on their own for the most part and they would be more responsible and charitable towards others. Yes I said charitable. Most of my extremely liberal friends never give a helping hand because they think they already help by paying taxes and supporting Democratic party government reliance programs. The reality is regulation when abused creates a false sense of security that makes the “prudent man” passive.