Comments on: Remembering The Past Is A Key To The Present http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/ Fri, 25 May 2012 00:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: FLDemFem http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147632 FLDemFem Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:50:33 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147632 Oh please, Tweety is so far back in the closet he can see Narnia. He won't be coming out anytime soon. Oh please, Tweety is so far back in the closet he can see Narnia. He won’t be coming out anytime soon.

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147543 Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:35:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147543 Good point, Ferd! And Aaron, not necessarily. Clinton doesn't have to agree with Obama on everything to be able to serve her country well. On this issue, I imagine she has had more than a few conversations with him. I assume she believes she can do more good by being in this position than leaving it to anyone else. You know that I was not crazy abt her taking this job in the first place, but I have to say, I would rather have HER there than just abt anyone else of whom I can think (except maybe Bill) because of her grasp on the issues. While Obama sets the policy, how they get there depends in large part on Clinton. Know what I mean? As for Judd Gregg, well, for Obama to take the census from him and put it in the WH was not only illegal, but a HUGE slap in the face to Gregg. The census is one of THE biggest parts of the Commerce Dep't, so he was hog-tying him from the get-go. Good point, Ferd!

And Aaron, not necessarily. Clinton doesn’t have to agree with Obama on everything to be able to serve her country well. On this issue, I imagine she has had more than a few conversations with him. I assume she believes she can do more good by being in this position than leaving it to anyone else. You know that I was not crazy abt her taking this job in the first place, but I have to say, I would rather have HER there than just abt anyone else of whom I can think (except maybe Bill) because of her grasp on the issues. While Obama sets the policy, how they get there depends in large part on Clinton. Know what I mean?

As for Judd Gregg, well, for Obama to take the census from him and put it in the WH was not only illegal, but a HUGE slap in the face to Gregg. The census is one of THE biggest parts of the Commerce Dep’t, so he was hog-tying him from the get-go.

]]> By: Chris http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147466 Chris Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:06:09 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147466 And tonight he dances to the music of Earth, Wind and Fire at the WH. He sure likes concerts and parties and plane rides on the people's dime doesn't he? Life's one big happy party for him despite the mess he's created. He will be surprised when it all falls in like a house of cards. In the meantime, he's costing us wway too much money. And tonight he dances to the music of Earth, Wind and Fire at the WH. He sure likes concerts and parties and plane rides on the people’s dime doesn’t he? Life’s one big happy party for him despite the mess he’s created. He will be surprised when it all falls in like a house of cards. In the meantime, he’s costing us wway too much money.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147451 Aaron Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:08:59 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147451 Hoping this is a case is not a position that allays my fears. Hope is not a strategy and got us into this position with Obama. Why is this a false dilemma? Do you really think she disagrees with his policies and will be a rogue agent for the American people? Hoping this is a case is not a position that allays my fears. Hope is not a strategy and got us into this position with Obama. Why is this a false dilemma? Do you really think she disagrees with his policies and will be a rogue agent for the American people?

]]> By: NoBamaNoWay http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147382 NoBamaNoWay Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:52:24 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147382 i agree with you there, alexis. when these people come to america and refuse to *become american* but rather try to change america to be like their home countries, that is a threat to america, plain and simple. heck, when i lived in holland for 3 years (when dad was working for US gov't) i always tried to speak dutch to people, even though they usually just responded by speaking in english. i would never have dreamed of thinking that they should have tax-payer supported schools to teach american kids in english so we won't have to learn dutch. jeezus christ. i agree with you there, alexis. when these people come to america and refuse to *become american* but rather try to change america to be like their home countries, that is a threat to america, plain and simple.

heck, when i lived in holland for 3 years (when dad was working for US gov’t) i always tried to speak dutch to people, even though they usually just responded by speaking in english. i would never have dreamed of thinking that they should have tax-payer supported schools to teach american kids in english so we won’t have to learn dutch. jeezus christ.

]]> By: Ferd Berfle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147378 Ferd Berfle Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:48:46 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147378 False dilemma. She could be looking out for the people, knowing good and well what a neophyte he is. Where better to ensure he doesn't screw up too badly but as SoS. False dilemma. She could be looking out for the people, knowing good and well what a neophyte he is. Where better to ensure he doesn’t screw up too badly but as SoS.

]]> By: NoBamaNoWay http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147374 NoBamaNoWay Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:43:40 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147374 seriously, alexis, where are you going to take your money? china? europe? cuba? america's still the best place to do business that i know of. seriously, alexis, where are you going to take your money? china? europe? cuba? america’s still the best place to do business that i know of.

]]> By: Buzz Latte LaRue http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147362 Buzz Latte LaRue Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:16:45 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147362 And thus we come to the tricky concept of perception. You like how you perceive the world, yourself, the situation, etc. You have a low tolerance for perceptions that do not match your own. Obstructionism is in the eye of the beholder. Constructive conversation comes with a meeting of the minds, even if it is agree to disagree based. So far, it would appear that you, Tiberiuseless, are only comfortable with your perception of things. Therefore, you are not participating with any sort of comprehension of what is actually being presented here. Obviously, you like Obama. You like that change. But does everyone have to like him also because you do? Does everyone have to communicate only thoughts and ideas that congruently fit into your perception? You are now in the land of cognitive dissonance, friend. Meet us halfway. Agree when there is common ground. We really didn't come here to have you sit in judgement. And thus we come to the tricky concept of perception.

You like how you perceive the world, yourself, the situation, etc. You have a low tolerance for perceptions that do not match your own.

Obstructionism is in the eye of the beholder.

Constructive conversation comes with a meeting of the minds, even if it is agree to disagree based.

So far, it would appear that you, Tiberiuseless, are only comfortable with your perception of things. Therefore, you are not participating with any sort of comprehension of what is actually being presented here.

Obviously, you like Obama. You like that change. But does everyone have to like him also because you do?

Does everyone have to communicate only thoughts and ideas that congruently fit into your perception?

You are now in the land of cognitive dissonance, friend.

Meet us halfway. Agree when there is common ground.
We really didn’t come here to have you sit in judgement.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147356 Aaron Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:06:49 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147356 Yes I would! We already are but most are lulled in a state of complacency because they are told, "The government will save or protect you.". In the situation that you describe at least everyone would be forced to admit that they are on their own for the most part and they would be more responsible and charitable towards others. Yes I said charitable. Most of my extremely liberal friends never give a helping hand because they think they already help by paying taxes and supporting Democratic party government reliance programs. The reality is regulation when abused creates a false sense of security that makes the "prudent man" passive. Yes I would! We already are but most are lulled in a state of complacency because they are told, “The government will save or protect you.”. In the situation that you describe at least everyone would be forced to admit that they are on their own for the most part and they would be more responsible and charitable towards others. Yes I said charitable. Most of my extremely liberal friends never give a helping hand because they think they already help by paying taxes and supporting Democratic party government reliance programs. The reality is regulation when abused creates a false sense of security that makes the “prudent man” passive.

]]> By: Tiberius http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147353 Tiberius Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:00:03 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147353 Pardon the observation--there's no meanness intended--but perhaps you should reconsider who might actually drifting off in the rubber dinghy. Try to make a change? Well, there's the matter of two recent elections, and who's been put in charge of the big ship for a while as a result. Those with opposing views can either make the best of the situation and try to influence decisions more to own their liking through constructive participation, or totally marginalize themselves by becoming angry obstructionists. Pardon the observation–there’s no meanness intended–but perhaps you should reconsider who might actually drifting off in the rubber dinghy. Try to make a change? Well, there’s the matter of two recent elections, and who’s been put in charge of the big ship for a while as a result.

Those with opposing views can either make the best of the situation and try to influence decisions more to own their liking through constructive participation, or totally marginalize themselves by becoming angry obstructionists.

]]> By: Buzz Latte LaRue http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147342 Buzz Latte LaRue Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:35:12 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147342 Then why do you relish in engaging in partisan bickering? Refer to your own previous posts on this thread, if you're confused. Then why do you relish in engaging in partisan bickering?

Refer to your own previous posts on this thread, if you’re confused.

]]> By: Buzz Latte LaRue http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147341 Buzz Latte LaRue Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:31:38 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147341 Ah Tiberius is just spouting typical liberal coffeehouse talk. They are big on words and cowardly behavior. Used to be one back when I thought I knew all the answers. Then reality struck. Ah Tiberius is just spouting typical liberal coffeehouse talk.

They are big on words and cowardly behavior.

Used to be one back when I thought I knew all the answers.

Then reality struck.

]]> By: AlexisM http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147340 AlexisM Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:30:42 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147340 Way to GO Buzz. It always amazes me when people like Tiberiuseless rant on with their partisan, anti-American crap. If our forefathers would have just sat on their asses we would all be drinking tea, sending our paychecks to Queen Elizabeth. What's the MATTER with these nuts? Way to GO Buzz. It always amazes me when people like Tiberiuseless rant on with their partisan, anti-American crap. If our forefathers would have just sat on their asses we would all be drinking tea, sending our paychecks to Queen Elizabeth. What’s the MATTER with these nuts?

]]> By: Buzz Latte LaRue http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147339 Buzz Latte LaRue Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:28:04 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147339 As a person who went into the public sector and worked my azz off to the detriment of my own health in areas with high concentrations of AA and welfare recipients. I will not be lectured by anyone, including you Tiberiuseless, of how it is or should be. Most people like who they are and their situation or they try to make change. We are not happy with the status quo, we're talking change. If you don't like it, put yourself in your little inflatable dinghy and sail away from the ship. If you do that you would be making a good change for yourself. Be proactive. As a person who went into the public sector and worked my azz off to the detriment of my own health in areas with high concentrations of AA and welfare recipients. I will not be lectured by anyone, including you Tiberiuseless, of how it is or should be.

Most people like who they are and their situation or they try to make change.

We are not happy with the status quo, we’re talking change. If you don’t like it, put yourself in your little inflatable dinghy and sail away from the ship.

If you do that you would be making a good change for yourself. Be proactive.

]]> By: Tiberius http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15062/remembering-the-past-is-a-key-to-the-present/#comment-1147322 Tiberius Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:48:28 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15062#comment-1147322 That's what you heard, not what I said. That’s what you heard, not what I said.

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