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“J. Edgar Moyers?”

I will just go ahead and say upfront that I was saddened by the following article, and the information contained therein (major H/T to Andy for alerting me to this piece), J. Edgar Moyers The TV moralist’s government record. Why? Because Bill Moyers is someone for whom I had respect. His series with Joseph Campbell on The Power of Myth was just one of many outstanding series he has done in his long journalistic career. The manner in which he has conducted himself, portrayed himself moreover, made this pretty surprising coming from him.

As many of you may already know, Bill Moyers worked in the Lyndon Johnson Administration, and it is that period of time with which this article deals:

One of the darker periods of modern American history was J. Edgar Hoover’s long reign over the FBI, as we have learned since he died in 1972. So it is more than a historical footnote to discover new records showing that prominent public television broadcaster Bill Moyers participated in Hoover’s exploits.

Under the Freedom of Information Act, the Washington Post has obtained a few of the former FBI director’s secret files. According to a Thursday front-page story, Hoover was “consumed” with exposing a (nonexistent) relationship between a gay photographer and Jack Valenti, the late film industry lobbyist who was then an aide to Lyndon Johnson. Hoover’s M.O. was to amass incriminating personal information as political blackmail.

But as the Post reports in passing, the dossier also reveals that Mr. Moyers — then a special assistant to LBJ — requested in 1964 that Hoover’s G-men “investigate two other administration figures who were ‘suspected as having homosexual tendencies.’”

Sigh. Tell me that doesn’t make you sad. It does me. I know, I know, it was a different time, but for someone who has long been considered to be above that sort of thing to have engaged in that sort of thing is just disheartening. Especially because:

This isn’t the first time Mr. Moyers’s name has come up in connection with Hoover’s abuse of office. When Laurence Silberman, now a federal appeals judge, was acting Attorney General in 1975, he was obliged to read Hoover’s secret files in their entirety in preparation for testimony before Congress — and as far as we know remains one of the only living officials to have done so. “It was the single worst experience of my long governmental service,” he wrote in these pages in 2005.

Amid “bits of dirt on figures such as Martin Luther King,” Judge Silberman found a 1964 memo from Mr. Moyers directing Hoover’s agents to investigate Barry Goldwater’s campaign staff for evidence of homosexual activity. A few weeks before, an LBJ aide named Walter Jenkins had been arrested in a men’s bathroom, and Mr. Silberman wrote that Mr. Moyers and his boss evidently wanted leverage in the event Goldwater* tried to use the liaison against them. (He didn’t, as it happened.)

When that episode became public after Mr. Silberman testified, an irate Mr. Moyers called him and, with typical delicacy, accused him of falling for forged CIA memos. Mr. Silberman offered to study the matter and, should Mr. Moyers’s allegations pan out, he would publicly exonerate him. “There was a pause on the line and then he said, ‘I was very young. How will I explain this to my children?’ And then he rang off.”

How indeed, Mr. Moyers? Or to the rest of us who have developed a deep respect and admiration for you? Or is this just old news:

Memories are short in Washington, and Mr. Moyers has gone on to promote himself as a political moralist, routinely sermonizing about what he claims are abuses of power by his ideological enemies. Since 9/11, he has been particularly intense in criticizing President Bush for his antiterror policies, such as warrantless wiretapping against al Qaeda.

Yet the historical record suggests that when Mr. Moyers was in a position of actual power, he was complicit in FBI dirt-digging against U.S. citizens solely for political purposes. As Judge Silberman put it in 2005, “I have always thought that the most heinous act in which a democratic government can engage is to use its law enforcement machinery for political ends.”

Mr. Moyers told us through a spokeswoman that he “never heard of the Valenti matter until this story and had nothing to add to it.” He also pointed to a 1975 Newsweek article in which he wrote that he learned of the LBJ-Hoover relationship in “the quickly fading days of my innocence.” In the Nixon days, this was called a nondenial denial.

Well, my memory isn’t short. And the “nondenial denial” just doesn’t help matters much. I expected more, and better, from Mr. Moyers.

Oh – and just in case some folks have forgotten, J. Edgar Hoover was mighty good friends with Joseph McCarthy. As in the one from whom we have the term, “McCarthyism.” I might add, that J. Edgar Hoover was notorious for spying on American citizens. So, bear that in mind as you consider the above, and all of the ramifications of this article. (There are tons of books available on the subject of McCarthyism, McCarthy, and J. Edgar Hoover, if you wish to learn more. A simple search will reveal a number of them, especially at Amazon.com.)

And I wonder what Mr. Moyers thinks of Obama’s maintaining of some of Bush’s more egregious policies, given how outspoken he was when Bush began them (FISA, anti-terror policies like extraordinary rendition, State Secrets, etc., etc.). Despite the disappointment of what this article reveals, I hope Mr. Moyers will continue to hold the powers-that-be feet to the fire. That he will hold Obama accountable for continuing so many of the more despicable policies of Bush II that he decried when Bush did them.

Still, the disappointment lingers.

* By the way, you may recall that it was on the issue of GLBT people in the military, Hillary Clinton always quoted Barry Goldwater who said, “You don’t have to be straight to shoot straight.” So, it doesn’t surprise me that HE did not use the issue of homosexuality for political reasons. That the Democrats had no problems doing that, though, does…

  • candymarl

    Say it ain’t so Bill. Say it ain’t so. Sigh.

  • tek

    Bill Moyers totally got on the wrong side of me in this recent election. Before the primaries were even over, he had the presidential candidates interviewed on their possible Supreme Court nominees. He purposely, callously omitted Hillary. What a jerk. I don’t see how he could possibly have been carrying anymore water for Obama.

    Moyers is a minister, like Stephanopolous. Both jerks IMO.

  • Doc99

    Bill Moyers’ hypocrisy knows no bounds.

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      Thanks for that piece, Doc – wow. Hypocrisy indeed.

  • beebop

    Didn’t the election just passed show us that party affiliation is rather meaningless in some cases? A “D” behind your name doesn’t always make you the good guy. Sometimes it makes you a thug, bully, lazy, intellectually incurious, poser, unaccomplished, insensitive, etc.

    I have gotten to the point where I no longer quickly jump to the sentence that includes party identification. A jerk is a jerk is a jerk imho.

  • verminme

    According to the Caro books, JBJ was a horribly bullying, degrading boss. A favorite dominating tactic was to call aides into the toilet while he was taking a dump, male or female, to “take a letter”. Anyone who stayed close to LBJ took away his good with a large dose of the very bad. Moyers was young and the LBJ camp was freaked at the time about the Jenkins affair.

  • http://theheraclitanfire.blogspot.com/ Craig Della Penna

    Poor Bill! Sounds like he’s been trying to atone for many decades now.
    I was very young then but even as a child I could feel the suffocating atmosphere of suspicion in this country. Hoover was doing his best to turn us into East Germany – Stasi and all.
    No excuses but those were horrible times as we turned on each other.
    However, I still don’t get how supposedly intelligent people like Bill Moyers fell for Obama. Maybe all that moral superiority we all felt for so long blinded us to our own capacity for self-delusion.

    • http://www.madinthemiddle.blogspot.com churl

      Supposedly intelligent.Yep. As far as I am concerned, if you voted for either G.Bush or O’Precious, points must be deducted from your I.Q. score. If you voted for both, then maybe you consider not reproducing.

  • libbygurl

    Mr Moyers’ shilling for BH0 in this election did in his integrity for me. It is even more shocking to learn of his dirt-digging for and with J E Hoover (himself ironically a closet homosexual) for political ends. Not sure that I will ever trust in Moyers’ judgment and opinion again after this year, and this awful revelation.

    Well, if the erstwhile respectable Mr Moyers denies he had anything to do with the Hoover dirt, despite these new revelations (who’s behind them, btw?), then he has essentially flushed any shred of his integrity down the toilet.

  • mountainaires

    What always amazes me is that people place other people on pedestals, and think they are saints. You know, sort of like Obamabots do with their “messiah,” now.

    Politics under LBJ was ugly–how do you think LBJ got the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Acts passed anyway? You think everyone was just ready to sing Kumbaya and “We’d like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony…” in 1965?

    Don’t think so. The arm-twisting is done for political party purposes; no one is immune if you work in politics.

    This is a smear piece. Bill Moyers doesn’t deserve it. If you reflect on his entire life, would you say that Moyers has earned your trust, and respect? If he has, then why would you allow a singular moment of failure to erase a lifetime of work that rebuts it?

    Moyers doesn’t “promote himself as a political moralist.” Anyone who believes that, doesn’t know a thing about Bill Moyers’ work, on a range of issues promoting humanity and fairness and justice–for homosexuals as well as ordinary people.

    Sorry, Amy, but you don’t give Bill Moyers a fair shake here. This is a smear piece, without merit.

    Mr. Moyers has gone on to promote himself as a political moralist, routinely sermonizing about what he claims are abuses of power by his ideological enemies. Since 9/11, he has been particularly intense in criticizing President Bush for his antiterror policies, such as warrantless wiretapping against al Qaeda.

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      I don’t believe anyone put Moyers on a pedestal, certainly nowhere NEAR the level of Obama. One can respect someone and their work without doing so, and one can be disappointed in their behavior or choices made. At no point did I, or anyone else, say they thought Moyers was a saint and had fallen short. I even acknowledged that it was a different time, but clearly, Moyers in his own words acknowledges what he did was wrong.

      This was not a smear piece anymore than any revelations abt major journalists in this country not doing their job well is, or to highlight some of their previous (egregious) actions.

      Yes, it was a messy time, but not everyone stooped to the level Moyers did. Are you not putting Moyers on a pedestal yourself with the level of discourse in which you are arguing that Moyers is being “smeared”? Am I to understand that because he is not a “saint” that he does not have to be held accountable for his actions?

      Moyers has demonstrated this past election cycle that he is not above reproach.

  • NoTrollZone

    I believe it was Lillian Helman before the McCarthy
    panel who said, “I will not cut my conscience to suit the fashion of the day.”

    Moyers seems to have no similar compunction.

    I lost what respect I had for him as he jumped on the
    “I love Barack” special without a thought in his little greying head.

    And now this comes to light about his past smarminess. And Moyers brilliant comeback is, “what will I tell my kids?” Wow… way to take responsibility.

    Can we just save up some money and buy some journalists from some unknown place where they all aren’t pathetic juvenille hollow-people?

    • Cindy

      Love that Lillian Hellman quote. What a woman!

  • Rah-Rah

    I have watched Bill Moyers a lot, including the Joseph Campbell piece – which was brilliant.

    Having said that, there was always something about Moyers that made me uncomfortable. I could never completely explain, nor could I justify it. Now, it seems, that there was something pretty vile beneath the surface all along…

    I agree with candymarl: sigh.

  • Linda Anselmi

    A powerful article RRRA. Well done!

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  • Sassy

    I, too, had a great deal of respect for Bill Moyers.
    That ended when he conducted his sympathetic interview with Rev. Wright!
    Yes, Moyers was young and impressionable in those days. He has reminisced about being away from home, feeling uncertain about his abilities, and the kindness of Lady Bird Johnson.
    None the less, when you play the game, the score follows!

    • jbjd

      Sassy, I stopped watching him after that interview with Rev. Wright, too! And RRRA, I loved the series, Power of Myth, too.

  • Cindy

    I’m from Texas, grew up in Southern Baptist hierarchy because of my father’s work, so I am NOT surprised by Bill Moyers. He was always way too slick and smooth for me. I could always see right through him. I never understood why anyone would trust him. A man who would leave his so-called “calling” to the ministry to go work with LBJ (at a time when everybody knew what LBJ was like, here in Texas), should definitely make one a little skeptical.
    And his interview with Jeremiah Wright was such a soft one remember?
    Sorry you’re heart-broken. But, thank you for this post!

  • Mercedes

    Interesting. I recall from years ago, in either a TV interview or some other visual media, comments from Barry Goldwater about Bill Moyers and Lyndon Johnson. I think they were probably separate occasions. Mr Goldwater did not like Bill Moyers and I recall him saying in his forthright manner that Bill Moyers was a hypocrite. And I recall Senator Goldwater commenting that there was not anyhing that Lyndon Johnson would not do to exercise his power and Goldwater added, “And I mean anything.” Definitely no love lost between those two camps. I also recall Senator Goldwater supporting gay rights against what he considered the sanctimonious religious right. So this revelation does not surprise me. I have never given much weight to Bill Moyers moral posturing.

    • Ellen D

      I am coming to admire Goldwater more and more. As for Moyers – he himself has admitted his involvement in the Tonkin Gulf lie and Viet Nam war escalation.

      I missed the latest show, thankfully. I was sickened by his sympathetic interview with Wright and with that, I could see how he goes along with the flavor of the month favored by his support group.

      And is it just me or are some of these Poets (usually black ladies) he inflicts on us, really bad… (my son, an English graduate concurs).

  • Elsie

    I watched Bill Moyer’s journal this past Friday and I must say his show is really one sided.. He had a guest who discussed the “movement” of community organizers that Obama began which propelled him to become president.. This guest talked about how people are made to think ( I repeat made to think) who they are and then, they were supposed to meet up with people who are also in search of who they are and then, they think about their commonality and their unity and so they work together to achieve their common goals. This guest called the group camp Obama.. The thousands of Camp Obama got connected and created these massive force that put him into the White House..

    It is good to know how the strategy works and how it is being discussed in Bill Moyer’s Journal.. I was not impressed but I do recognized their success in achieving what they wanted.. Hence, the media bias, broadcasting, writing about the enthusiasm and energy and the “newness” of Barack Obama… How far can they go…I predict not much..As with every other movement, the symbolisms are there and are very powerful but when it is time for governing, they are empty. Does this remind you of that Polish labor leader who eventually became a leader.?.. can’t spell his name (Lech Waleska) He was a great leader of a movement, but did not do well as a leader of his nation.
    We will witness the same thing with Camp Obama..

    Sad day for America…

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      I’m sorry, the “movement of community organizers that Obama began”?? He wasn’t even a GOOD Community Organizer, and only worked as one for a short amt of time! Like everything else, he came into a situation in which the groundwork had already been laid, and did very little while actually there. The goals were accomplished AFTER he left by the very people – the neighborhood people – who began it in the FIRST place!

      Sigh. Sad day for America indeed…

    • CentralMass

      Walesa may have been a mediocre president but he stuck his neckout to lead a world changing movement in dangerous times.

      My brother was studying in Warsaw via an exchange program in the late 70′s. He got a chance to meet Lech Walesa and other so called “political dissendents” who were involved in the Solidarity movment. It wasn’t uncommon for people like Cathoic Priests who were too vocal against the Soviets to suddenly be involved in fatal car crashes etc.

      His school group had to leave after the Soviets declares martial law. Walesa was jailed for a year.

  • goldengrahme

    Well, I passed the churl IQ test and am feeling vewy, vewy smug.

    On the other hand, I have always admired Bill Moyers.
    Once upon a time, I even ordered one of his transcipts about an island where the treasures of Western civilization were preserved–think it was by Christian monks. That was before the advent of p.c.s and…PC political correctness, was an established fact.

    And yes, I was hugely disappointed by several Moyers
    stands–or lack thereof. Once he let Linda Chavez
    chortle on incessently about the beauty of unlimited immigration without countering or pointing out the pitfalls. Other shows found him nodding along with Obama supplicants with nary a discouraging word.

    But, whether or not we challenge Moyers for going AWOL as a journalist–be it loss of conviction or political expediency–I must admit his credits outnumber his debits on life’s balance sheet. Remember, when he made the mistake in question, he was a political staff member in an adversarial climate.

    No one is perfect.

    On this Sunday’s program on Washington lobbyists, he got back down to brass tacks. Personally, I
    applauded and was glad to have him reprise his role as an apolitical arbiter.

    So I will cut Bill some slack, admit he is no saint but nevertheless, has grown in office as a keeper of our moral imperatives. Comparing him to Bill Bennett, he wins going away.

    • Andy

      goldengrahme

      But, whether or not we challenge Moyers for going AWOL as a journalist–be it loss of conviction or political expediency–I must admit his credits outnumber his debits on life’s balance sheet. Remember, when he made the mistake in question, he was a political staff member in an adversarial climate.

      Certain goals do not justify the means. If Moyers had pointed the finger to YOU and asked the FBI to investigate every aspect of your private sexual life: how would you feel? ALL politics is adversarial and bare knuckles. As HRC said: if you cannot stand the heat get ourt of the kitchen. Moyers cannot have it both ways. Certain things are shameful and NEVER to be done. If you do not understand this you have no place in politics or anywhere else.

      So I will cut Bill some slack, admit he is no saint but nevertheless, has grown in office as a keeper of our moral imperatives. Comparing him to Bill Bennett, he wins going away.

      You are entitled to do so. But that moral relatives are magical thinking. Maybe they false logic works for you and who or what Bill Bennet is is irrelevant to what and who Bill Moyers is.

      Go to court and ask a judge to pardon you b/c the guy next to you is worse than you…What do you think the judge will do? Right…

      • Andy

        Correction:

        But that moral relatives are magical thinking. Maybe they false logic works for you and

        should be

        But moral relatives are magical thinking. Maybe the false logic works for you but ….

  • Andy

    Great post RRR Amy.

    I used to respect Moyers until the primaries… I then realized how sanctimonious he was. When he started dissecting HRC Ads while giving BO a pass that was it for me.
    He lost all credibility. I shut him off.
    You know what bothers me even more than the inexcusable fascist act of asking Hoover to investigate LBJ opponents’ sexual orientations is the fact that he denied it and tried to justify it with “I was young”.

    Bullocks. If you are old enough to serve the President of the United States -for G’s sake(!)– you are old enough for everything else.

    AG Eric Holder: here you have a real example of what coward means: Bill Moyers.

    • goldengrahme

      Oh, piffle, I fear you are up on a very high horse,
      Andy.

      Name one politician or journalist or person of faith, for that matter, who has not fallen and come short of the glory of the Lord. If you cannot forgive, as Jesus does (and I am not at all tied to any organized religion), and take the good with the
      bad, perhaps you are not in touch with realities of the human condition.

      Had one friend recently disavow Hillary; Hill has sinned; she took money from ACORN when running for NY senator. So my friend adds the SOS to a long list of people she no longer trusts. The list grows and grows. Soon, she will no longer vote.
      I have come close to that position and then realized how counterproductive it is.

      If you feel strongly about Bill Moyers, write him at PBS and vent; I did over the immigration issue.
      I felt better and maybe my rant reached his ears; maybe he thought about it. That is what democracy tends to nurture–it leads us to improve quality of life, not fester in our own bile.

      Bill Bennett has writen a whole book on our moral lapses (“The Death of Outrage” if memory serves), in which he quotes and requotes parables on what we, as a nation, should do to improve our ethics.
      He blamed American decadence on liberal drift.

      He, on the other hand, was exposed as a gambling addict, with all those perks high rollers are afforded in places where the rich are greeted and indulged. Some see excessive gambling as a sin; others as a character flaw. All in the eye of the beholder. His radio audience rarely calls him on misjudgement. Perhaps they are more tolerant than liberal bleeding hearts…speaking of hypocrisy.

      Let him without sin cast the first stone. I wouldn’t assume that role, myself. We can dredge up skeletons till the cows come home and in doing so, lose what few illusions we have left. Perhaps they offer a thin veil of protection between hope and dispair. (I am not alluding to an Obama definition.)

      All issues are political and all events connected in a chain of forward motion. There are degrees of crime. We separate them into classes and mete out sentences accordingly. Bill Moyers is hardly a venal criminal. (But I can name many who are still in positions of power.)

  • Helen

    Thanks for the article. I stopped watching Moyers during the primaries. Early on he did an opening commentary defending Hillary against Jesse Jr’s charge of racism, explaining that it was LBJ who got civil rights legislation through. (Someone should tell Jesse MLK wasn’t in the Congress) Of course Moyers was part of that legislative push. But after that program, it was downhill all the way. If he had people on with opposing views, the one supporting Obama got to speak most of the time. He didn’t moderate very well. It was getting as bad as watching Gwen Ifill on Washington Week, or listening to commentators and slanted anti-Hillary coverage on NPR. I gave up on all of them and given the biases of Ifill and Ray Suarez, and the old boy gossip of Brooks and Shields on PBS News Hour, I’ve stopped watching that as well.

    I can understand Bill making mistakes early on, but why lie about it? Much like Obama does about his past. Maybe that’s why the bonding. A couple of slick liars. It is sad. But I agree there was always something a bit too one-sided even when I agreed with his guests. He seemed to be pushing an ideology vs. informing us.
    Sad. No where to go but conservative sites for a glimmer of an opposing view.

  • Cindy

    Rev. Amy—- I had not had enough coffee when I first commented, and so didn’t see that this was YOUR post. No WONDER you’re so disappointed in Moyers, esp. being a fellow “person of the cloth”.
    We need more ministers (and retired ministers) with your ethical discipline!

  • mountainaires

    It’s childish to expect people to live up to absolute moral standards, in my view. Bill Moyers was a member of a political white house–one that had a reputation for dirty politics. LBJ was NO SAINT; Bill Moyers was raised a Southern Baptist, and the actions occurred during the 60s ferchrisesakes.

    If your father fell in love with another woman–his soul-mate, the woman of his dreams–while his wife– your mother, a woman you loved dearly–was dying of cancer, but then your father stayed with her and took care of her until she died, would you never speak to him again?

    There are no saints. There are only human beings. Moyers is a journalist–an exceptionally fine one. To see him being judged on absolutist terms–because those who judge him placed him on a pedestal themselves–is truly pathetic.

    Journalists are human beings. Some of them are bad husbands, absentee fathers, religious zealots, and hypocrites. Some of them are rotten journalists.

    Stop putting them on pedestals of the week. Judge them as journalists; hold them to a high standard as a journalist serving the public. The only thing they owe you is high ethical journalism.

    • rw

      If he believed in high ethical journalism, he would not be trying to suppress his past, imo.

      • Andy

        yep rw.

      • mountainaires

        Well, that’s a pretty pedestrian viewpoint, if you ask me. Well, you didn’t ask, but you did opine, so I’ll respond.

        Riddle me this, Batman:

        Where has Moyers compromised his journalistic integrity? Do you even know what that means?

        Do tell.

        Moyers hasn’t compromised his journalistic ethics in the least. In point of fact, he’s being judged here on the basis of personal failures while he was a political appointee in the White House.
        The two are very different things.

  • roger

    I’m still pulling for Moyers to lead the awakening from the kool-aid trance. His shortcomings are minuscule compared to Obama’s, but he’s certainly lost a lot of credibility in the meantime.

  • cynic

    That was a very long ago, during very different times. Who the man is now is not who the man was then. It’s understandable that he’d prefer this distinction not be clouded.

    Is there anyone here who has nothing in their past they’d rather not have dredged up and thrust into the public spotlight 40 years later?

    • mountainaires

      Boy I do. I was a Democrat who worked for John Kerry.

      Eww.

      I worked for Harold Ford in his Senate race. Whoo-ee.

      I was a precinct chair for the Democratic Party for years.

      Sigh~

      I feel such shame now.

  • http://thedametruth.com Liberty Central

    Another cherished illusion shattered…I, too, sadly realized that Moyers, like most of us, has clay feet, vulnerable to his choices and associations. Were it that this feature translated to the current White House resident, for whom no choices have had consequences, except for others.

  • TexasBuckeye

    As with many things, history reveals what was really going on behind the scenes.

    Contrary to everything we were taught in school, McCarthy was correct about the communist spies in our government. Don’t believe me? You shouldn’t. Check it out for yourself.

    Have you heard about the Venona Project? If not, ask yourself why not?

    http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Exposing-Espionage-Americas-Traitors/dp/0895262258/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235527147&sr=1-2

  • Helen

    Of course we are all flawed and have made mistakes in our youth. The mark of character, journalistic or otherwise, is to acknowledge them. If you can’t do that why should I trust you have any integrity. But it isn’t just about his past behavior – he repeated it these last two years. His lack of integrity as a journalist was apparent during the primaries. We are about the same age. He hasn’t grown at all. He’s missing the opportunity to share some wisdom about our youthful follies and how one repairs damage to others and to one’s own soul. I’m sorry he can’t go there. It’s sad to watch.