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		<title>By: No Blood for Hubris</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1524/update-on-battle-tested/#comment-137766</link>
		<dc:creator>No Blood for Hubris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharp wonkette progressive vs. timid centrist.

How hard is that to figure out?</description>
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<p>How hard is that to figure out?</p>
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		<title>By: S. Markom</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1524/update-on-battle-tested/#comment-137049</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Markom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why is she allowing herself to be villified for being on the Board of Wal-Mart?

Hillary Clinton should have campaigned as a hardened, tough political figure with answers to issues that she believes in even if you don&#039;t agree with all of them.

People today want credibility and authenticity in the products they buy and now the people they elect. Hillary could have had the high ground but surrendered it to polling data and trying to be all things to all people. She failed and in her place came someone with maybe credibility and maybe authenticity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why is she allowing herself to be villified for being on the Board of Wal-Mart?</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton should have campaigned as a hardened, tough political figure with answers to issues that she believes in even if you don&#8217;t agree with all of them.</p>
<p>People today want credibility and authenticity in the products they buy and now the people they elect. Hillary could have had the high ground but surrendered it to polling data and trying to be all things to all people. She failed and in her place came someone with maybe credibility and maybe authenticity.</p>
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		<title>By: NB</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1524/update-on-battle-tested/#comment-137042</link>
		<dc:creator>NB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the media has clearly shown us, being Hillary Clinton in America is far more challenging. And she has proven that she can take them all on and come out stronger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the media has clearly shown us, being Hillary Clinton in America is far more challenging. And she has proven that she can take them all on and come out stronger.</p>
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		<title>By: S. Markom</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1524/update-on-battle-tested/#comment-137041</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Markom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why she is losing.

If she just spelled out exactly how involved she was with her husband&#039;s administration instead of dancing around the edges she would have swept these primaries. &quot;35 years&quot; = of what?!

I do think she was a co-President but unless they come clean with how much she was involved with policy then it is all smoke-and-mirrors.

She has also done nothing substantial since becoming Senator of NYS. That was a mistake.

I can go on with the litany of mistakes that HRC has made and sugar coating it will not get her a majority of the popular vote or the nomination.

Unfortunately you seem to only read her press releases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why she is losing.</p>
<p>If she just spelled out exactly how involved she was with her husband&#8217;s administration instead of dancing around the edges she would have swept these primaries. &#8220;35 years&#8221; = of what?!</p>
<p>I do think she was a co-President but unless they come clean with how much she was involved with policy then it is all smoke-and-mirrors.</p>
<p>She has also done nothing substantial since becoming Senator of NYS. That was a mistake.</p>
<p>I can go on with the litany of mistakes that HRC has made and sugar coating it will not get her a majority of the popular vote or the nomination.</p>
<p>Unfortunately you seem to only read her press releases.</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1524/update-on-battle-tested/#comment-136928</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I write now is not a partisan slap at Obama, it is just something I find disturbing.

Brzezinski has always been focused on Eastern Europe because I believe he is a Polish patriot, not an American one.  This I believe rendered him blind to the danger of the radical Muslim movement he fostered as well as the radicalization of Iran, since he was primarily focused on putting it to Poland&#039;s enemy, the Soviet Union.

We are allocating resources again unilaterally to Eastern Europe.  This is in accord with Brzezinski&#039;s current line, although I don&#039;t know if the Bush Administration is following him or someone else.  The bottom line is that it has Russia very rattled.  Putin is now talking about a restart of the arms race.

We are in hock up to our ears (even Russia is now one of our creditors), dependent on some sworn enemies for energy and our Dollar may even be replaced as the preferred international currency by the Euro.  Russia, on the other hand, is on the upswing and has enough energy to threaten Europe and some of it&#039;s former Republics.

Another arms race is a potlatch we can no longer afford.  The last one brought the Soviet Union to it&#039;s knees, this one could bring us to our knees.

Other than that Brzezinski is a hellofa guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I write now is not a partisan slap at Obama, it is just something I find disturbing.</p>
<p>Brzezinski has always been focused on Eastern Europe because I believe he is a Polish patriot, not an American one.  This I believe rendered him blind to the danger of the radical Muslim movement he fostered as well as the radicalization of Iran, since he was primarily focused on putting it to Poland&#8217;s enemy, the Soviet Union.</p>
<p>We are allocating resources again unilaterally to Eastern Europe.  This is in accord with Brzezinski&#8217;s current line, although I don&#8217;t know if the Bush Administration is following him or someone else.  The bottom line is that it has Russia very rattled.  Putin is now talking about a restart of the arms race.</p>
<p>We are in hock up to our ears (even Russia is now one of our creditors), dependent on some sworn enemies for energy and our Dollar may even be replaced as the preferred international currency by the Euro.  Russia, on the other hand, is on the upswing and has enough energy to threaten Europe and some of it&#8217;s former Republics.</p>
<p>Another arms race is a potlatch we can no longer afford.  The last one brought the Soviet Union to it&#8217;s knees, this one could bring us to our knees.</p>
<p>Other than that Brzezinski is a hellofa guy.</p>
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		<title>By: SirScud</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1524/update-on-battle-tested/#comment-136916</link>
		<dc:creator>SirScud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mr. Murder&quot;, I associate myself with your observations and am disappointed to see Amb. Wilson practising historical revisionism while claiming that Obama supporters are &quot;Rovian.&quot; Is this not the essence of the Rovian politics of distortion and dissembling that we all seek to transcend? And what about these claims about the interference in Kenyan politics, and shady real estate deals? Are these not simply a variation of the &quot;swift boating&quot; of John Kerry, under a different political banner? The good ambassador&#039;s conjecture that no one but Clinton can do political battle with the Republicans, whoever their candidate is, doesn&#039;t pass the smell test. We, the people of the Democrat Party, are the team that will overcome the fascists and theocrats that have usurped control of our country, and we will choose the best &#039;quarterback&#039; to lead us; we do not need, nor do we want another oligarch, be it a king or a queen; regardless of political persuasion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mr. Murder&#8221;, I associate myself with your observations and am disappointed to see Amb. Wilson practising historical revisionism while claiming that Obama supporters are &#8220;Rovian.&#8221; Is this not the essence of the Rovian politics of distortion and dissembling that we all seek to transcend? And what about these claims about the interference in Kenyan politics, and shady real estate deals? Are these not simply a variation of the &#8220;swift boating&#8221; of John Kerry, under a different political banner? The good ambassador&#8217;s conjecture that no one but Clinton can do political battle with the Republicans, whoever their candidate is, doesn&#8217;t pass the smell test. We, the people of the Democrat Party, are the team that will overcome the fascists and theocrats that have usurped control of our country, and we will choose the best &#8216;quarterback&#8217; to lead us; we do not need, nor do we want another oligarch, be it a king or a queen; regardless of political persuasion.</p>
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		<title>By: Salo</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1524/update-on-battle-tested/#comment-136908</link>
		<dc:creator>Salo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerry and the Kingmaker role? ruh roh.</description>
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		<title>By: John Stanton</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1524/update-on-battle-tested/#comment-136811</link>
		<dc:creator>John Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not really fond of anybody from the crusty two party system but to those who say Mr. Obama is not battle-tested, a friend of mine points out that, &quot;He&#039;s a black man in America. How much more testing does he need?&quot;

I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not really fond of anybody from the crusty two party system but to those who say Mr. Obama is not battle-tested, a friend of mine points out that, &#8220;He&#8217;s a black man in America. How much more testing does he need?&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: LuigiDaMan</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1524/update-on-battle-tested/#comment-136796</link>
		<dc:creator>LuigiDaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it will be an &quot;upset.&quot;  I think the polling will begin to change once Mr. Kumbaya is annointed. He will start to drop as people look at the race seriously.  The small, zealous contingent of the Dem party that is championing Obama will suddenly be overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of people who will vote for &quot;ABO&quot; -- Anybody But Obama.


I&#039;m not sure I can take four more years of Republican life.

I live in Ohio and the average &quot;Joe&quot; might vote for Hillary (he has a mother, after all), but all hell will freeze over before he votes for someone named Hussein.  Mark my words: If its Obama vs. McCain, it won&#039;t be close.  They&#039;ll kill us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it will be an &#8220;upset.&#8221;  I think the polling will begin to change once Mr. Kumbaya is annointed. He will start to drop as people look at the race seriously.  The small, zealous contingent of the Dem party that is championing Obama will suddenly be overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of people who will vote for &#8220;ABO&#8221; &#8212; Anybody But Obama.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I can take four more years of Republican life.</p>
<p>I live in Ohio and the average &#8220;Joe&#8221; might vote for Hillary (he has a mother, after all), but all hell will freeze over before he votes for someone named Hussein.  Mark my words: If its Obama vs. McCain, it won&#8217;t be close.  They&#8217;ll kill us.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1524/update-on-battle-tested/#comment-136755</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s is the rental for the lesser of the two evils?</description>
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		<title>By: barb</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1524/update-on-battle-tested/#comment-136747</link>
		<dc:creator>barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wolf in sheep&#039;s clothing is an analogy that I think of every time I see a clip of him on TV.  Everytime I hear about how he doesn&#039;t take money from lobbyists, etc., etc. If there&#039;s one thing that turns me off it&#039;s his pure BS.  I can&#039;t help but wonder how much of his books, which he admits are somewhat fictionalized to make them more interesting, are fiction.  Don&#039;t you know everything in all those books is going to be under extreme scrutiny if he gets the nomination.

I don&#039;t get the thing about the Rezko land deal, he knew what was going on at the time and still went for the deal.  Was he so naive, so enamored of living in the nice mansion, or just so dam arrogant that he thought it was okay for him to do this, no one would notice... or all of the above.  

Whichever, it doesn&#039;t bode well to have a candidate so totally lacking in judgment on this matter as president.  

When Bill Clinton, when talking about the Iraq war said Obama&#039;s stand was a fairy tale, well I think all these people that cried racist had it correct, the whole Obama cult is a fairy tale, I think he is going to be proven to be mythical.  Going to be a lot of disappointed people around.

Quite frankly the thought of him as president frightens me.  I think we would have a candidate similar to GWB, admittedly more intelligent, but every bit as incompetent.  Who will the puppet masters be, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry?  

He is a &quot;made for public consumption&quot; candidate if ever I saw one, bet whoever his &quot;maker&quot; is had no idea he had entangled himself in a real estate deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing is an analogy that I think of every time I see a clip of him on TV.  Everytime I hear about how he doesn&#8217;t take money from lobbyists, etc., etc. If there&#8217;s one thing that turns me off it&#8217;s his pure BS.  I can&#8217;t help but wonder how much of his books, which he admits are somewhat fictionalized to make them more interesting, are fiction.  Don&#8217;t you know everything in all those books is going to be under extreme scrutiny if he gets the nomination.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get the thing about the Rezko land deal, he knew what was going on at the time and still went for the deal.  Was he so naive, so enamored of living in the nice mansion, or just so dam arrogant that he thought it was okay for him to do this, no one would notice&#8230; or all of the above.  </p>
<p>Whichever, it doesn&#8217;t bode well to have a candidate so totally lacking in judgment on this matter as president.  </p>
<p>When Bill Clinton, when talking about the Iraq war said Obama&#8217;s stand was a fairy tale, well I think all these people that cried racist had it correct, the whole Obama cult is a fairy tale, I think he is going to be proven to be mythical.  Going to be a lot of disappointed people around.</p>
<p>Quite frankly the thought of him as president frightens me.  I think we would have a candidate similar to GWB, admittedly more intelligent, but every bit as incompetent.  Who will the puppet masters be, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry?  </p>
<p>He is a &#8220;made for public consumption&#8221; candidate if ever I saw one, bet whoever his &#8220;maker&#8221; is had no idea he had entangled himself in a real estate deal.</p>
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		<title>By: vee</title>
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		<dc:creator>vee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am completely  disgusted with Obama&#039;s campaign pushing the idea that the Clintons are racists. Even after admitting that  pushing the racism agenda was a &quot;mistake,&quot; Obama continues to go along with  the storyline  that helped him consolidate  the black vote behind him. See the ABC 7- Politico video interview of Obama before Virginia at politico.com. He is still pushing  the idea that the Clintons  are racists. Also, looking at the  ideals of his church, from the church web site, and the positions his minister takes, I believe  the racist label is accurate for him.  The pig comment  was over the top, but I  am really angry about the racism charges played up by his campaign for politico gain. I think that Obama is something of a wolf in sheep&#039;s clothing. -Sorry, I can&#039;t stop making analogies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am completely  disgusted with Obama&#8217;s campaign pushing the idea that the Clintons are racists. Even after admitting that  pushing the racism agenda was a &#8220;mistake,&#8221; Obama continues to go along with  the storyline  that helped him consolidate  the black vote behind him. See the ABC 7- Politico video interview of Obama before Virginia at politico.com. He is still pushing  the idea that the Clintons  are racists. Also, looking at the  ideals of his church, from the church web site, and the positions his minister takes, I believe  the racist label is accurate for him.  The pig comment  was over the top, but I  am really angry about the racism charges played up by his campaign for politico gain. I think that Obama is something of a wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing. -Sorry, I can&#8217;t stop making analogies.</p>
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		<title>By: BernieO</title>
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		<dc:creator>BernieO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the racist pig charge is over the top, but you are right about Rezko. I cannot fault politicians for finding out that some of their supporters are less than honorable. They have to deal with the system that we have created for them. The American people for years have refused to support publicly financed campaigns arguing that they do not want their tax money going to politicians. The same people then complain when corporations and other influencers poney up. Now the Supreme Court has made any meaningful reform virtually impossible (Buckley vs. Valeo ruled that money=speech, giving a megaphone to the wealthy). But there is no excuse for continuing to deal with someone after it is revealed that there are serious questions about corruption.
What I find even more galling is that Obama puts on his pious &quot;I got ethics reform passed&quot; schtick after these kinds of shenanigans. Want to bet that he did it to counteract the Rezko stench? Funny how the media overlooks this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the racist pig charge is over the top, but you are right about Rezko. I cannot fault politicians for finding out that some of their supporters are less than honorable. They have to deal with the system that we have created for them. The American people for years have refused to support publicly financed campaigns arguing that they do not want their tax money going to politicians. The same people then complain when corporations and other influencers poney up. Now the Supreme Court has made any meaningful reform virtually impossible (Buckley vs. Valeo ruled that money=speech, giving a megaphone to the wealthy). But there is no excuse for continuing to deal with someone after it is revealed that there are serious questions about corruption.<br />
What I find even more galling is that Obama puts on his pious &#8220;I got ethics reform passed&#8221; schtick after these kinds of shenanigans. Want to bet that he did it to counteract the Rezko stench? Funny how the media overlooks this.</p>
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		<title>By: BernieO</title>
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		<dc:creator>BernieO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She was the one who headed up the major educational reform in Arkansas which was no small task. She got the stake holders to come together to get the legislation passed. One of the most impressive things she did was to convince corporate bigwigs like Sam Walton of Walmart to support a CORPORATE TAX to help finance the much-needed reform. This was in the 80&#039;s when the reform movement was just beginning so it was very cutting edge and had a lot of influence on states like Texas. Obama has never unified any groups comparable to the one Hillary had to bring together - teachers unions, corporations, taxpayers, legislators, etc. 
Her campaign has not done a good job of getting this information out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She was the one who headed up the major educational reform in Arkansas which was no small task. She got the stake holders to come together to get the legislation passed. One of the most impressive things she did was to convince corporate bigwigs like Sam Walton of Walmart to support a CORPORATE TAX to help finance the much-needed reform. This was in the 80&#8242;s when the reform movement was just beginning so it was very cutting edge and had a lot of influence on states like Texas. Obama has never unified any groups comparable to the one Hillary had to bring together &#8211; teachers unions, corporations, taxpayers, legislators, etc.<br />
Her campaign has not done a good job of getting this information out.</p>
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		<title>By: BernieO</title>
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		<dc:creator>BernieO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am talking about ordinary citizens not the elite. They were led astray by the supposedly rational leaders like the MSM and guys like Powell. I would not consider Brooks in the middle just because he is more polite that most conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am talking about ordinary citizens not the elite. They were led astray by the supposedly rational leaders like the MSM and guys like Powell. I would not consider Brooks in the middle just because he is more polite that most conservatives.</p>
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