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Bobby Jindal Lays a Turd

Nocturnal Warrior and crew are doing a bang up job analyzing Barack Obama’s SOTU (which left me thinking, “Barack STFU). But Barack has nothing to worry about. He was followed by Bobby JIndal, Governor of Louisiana and America was reminded in a very forceful way why the Republicans should not be in charge. After listening to Governor Jindal’s response it is clear neither he nor the Republican establishment has a clue. Jindal missed his opportunity to be memorable and humble. He was wooden and ultra conventional. Here is what he should have said:

On behalf of the Republican Party I want to apologize to you for our negligence and our poor decisions which have helped create the economic mess we are in. We forgot our fundamentals. We allowed ourselves to be distracted from the war on terror against Islamic extremists and started an unnecessary war in Iraq and, in the process, squandered over $600 billion dollars we should have spent at strengthening our military and domestic economy. Our party has been punished, appropriately so, for failing to deliver genuine tax reform, for failing to provide cost-effective government and for failing to rein in government spending.

We have heard you and we repent. We cannot change the past but we sure as hell can change the future. We are not going to repeat the mistakes of the past.

We agree that our nation’s economy is in trouble and that people are suffering. But we also know that Government spending does not guarantee better economic times. How do I know? In the eight years under George W. Bush we doubled our nation’s debt–from $5 trillion to $10.9 trillion. Despite all of the spending our economy is floundering, unemployment is growing, and many banks are in trouble.

So what do we do?

For starters, Government itself needs to tighten up and feel some pain. President Obama should freeze Government hiring (except for the military) and reduce Governmet salaries (20% for those making more than $120,000, 15% for those making more than $75,000 and 10% for those making less than 75,000). People who are working and being paid by the taxes of the American people should also share in the pain.

Second, President Obama and the Congress should impose a one-year moratorium on payroll and social security taxes for people who make less than $300,000. This will allow wage earners to keep more of their own money up front.

Third, Congress should pass legislation providing each family making less than $200,000 a year a $5000 grant.

Fourth, a ten percent tax credit should be provided to every person, regardless of income level, who purchases a new car, a house or condominium or a boat.

Fifth, Government should do its job of regulating and monitoring the financial sectors of the economy. Congress and the regulators failed to do their job. That is no longer acceptable.

Sixth, for companies who provide health care coverage at present we should commit the Federal Government to picking up the tab for the healthcare costs of new employees. That program should remain in place until the economy is growing at a rate of 3% for 6 consecutive quarters and unemployment is below 7%. At that point the U.S. Government will phase out its support over a two year period.

Finally, for the short term, the Government should extend unemployment benefits for six months. We recognize that there are many people who want to work and the current disruption is causing a lot of pain.

In proposing this approach we recognize that Government has a legitimate and responsible role to play in helping promote the welfare and security of our people. But we will not make our people richer or safer if we abandon the principles of fiscal responsibility and promoting the private sector.

Thank you and good night.

That might have caught some national attention. Jindal, you sucked!

  • Neil

    Here here!

    • andrew191

      Where? Where?

    • Susan

      Why do people like Larry Johnson never run for POTUS???

  • Mountain girl

    Jindal is just another man…better than a woman I guess. What is his foreign policy experience. Also, is he a natural born citizen? I heard his parents were not naturalized at the time of his birth. Give me Sarah or give me death.

    • http://firefox AnnieCollier

      Sarah’s not going away, thankfully. She’s busy cleaning up any issues that could give the opposition any validity for attacking her. Not that they need any.

      • julianna

        Agree 100%

    • andrew191

      What Jindal said was spot on, he just didn’t deliver it well. Britt Hume said that it read better than his delivery, meaning that the substance of the position was good, but it is impossible to match the saturating fawning hysteria given to Obama by the situation.

      To put things in a proper perspective, I viewed Obama’s phony performance with the historical backdrop that he deserves. Instead of Biden and Pelosi behind him, I see Goering and Goebbels, and it’s not difficult to imagine the chambers of our Congress festooned with swastikas. Everything Obama promoted tonight is by definition fascism. What will it take to convince people that almost everything our creepy president says is a lie? He must be stopped before it’s too late.

      • Sally

        Well said…I couldn’t agree more but I am anything but optimistic.

      • http://rastabob bob nudell

        you nut jobs are dangerously disturbed

        • andrew191

          Yep Bob, that’s pretty much what the Nazis said about anyone that opposed them.

        • Mutiny on the Mounds Bar

          It sounds like Bob doesn’t have children.

          • andrew191

            If he does, they probably look like the mailman.

    • FLDemFem

      If he was born here, he is a NCB. Doesn’t matter what his parents were.

      • Mountain girl

        Incorrect. To be a natural born citizen both parents must be citizens in addition to being born in USA.

        • Bruce

          Don’t know where you get your information. You are either “natural born” or “natural-ized“. That is, you are either a citizen by right of birth or made a citizen after birth through the legal process called “naturalization.” Jindal may be an idiot, but he is a citizen by right of his birth and therefore qualified under the constitution to be elected President.

          His biggest problem is that he speaks the “gospel” of the Republican base, and at the moment that story just won’t stand up. It’s like saying, “We’re sorry you folks got hit so hard by Katrina. We’ll cut your tax rates a little so you can rebuild your state and put together billions of dollars for better levies. Good luck to ya.” As a Congressman and as Governor, he’s had his hand out to the Federal money trough. He just doesn’t believe in it for anyone else. Katrina was a “special” disaster. Everyone else’s are just regular disasters, and the government has no business stepping in.

        • Sally

          Your wrong…it use to be that way but not anymore.

          • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

            Depends on the YEAR Jindal was born in the USA. In the 1980′s the requirements relaxed.

        • Pieter B

          US Code, TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401

          Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

          The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
          (a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

          Next? The only exception is for persons not subject to US jurisdiction, e.g. the children of foreign diplomats.

    • rekster

      I would like to see his birth certificate.

  • Illinois Voter

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912&ei=tnSQSfncNZCq-wHg_vX8CQ&q=zeitgeist&hl=en

    Zeitgeist Addendum

    This video is worth watching, especially the Federal Reserve Bank and how it controls our debt for profit. Unless we the people stop living on credit we will not be financially solvent. This video is a 2 hour video, but educational.

  • felizarte

    I could not watch; would not watch and didn’t watch the SOTUAddress. I rely on NQ to give me an idea of what’s going on. Others could be the shock/pain absorbers for the next four years.

  • pm317

    Jindal was awful. Sounded more like a cheap commercial or something.

    • AF catfish

      His delivery was a giant turd, golly gee he sounded like a hybrid of Bobby Brady and Rush Limbaugh.

      • truthtelling007

        LOL. That’s funny. Yeah I couldn’t see if he had a remote control panel in back or what…it was almost like watching a 50s sitcom father. “now bobby”…wow.

        I can’t believe I’m feeling sorry for the Republicans…I can’t believe I’m saying that I’m feeling sorry for the Republicans.

        Good post Larry.

  • http://firefox AnnieCollier

    Mountain Girl: I heard he was born shortly after his parents arrived in the U.S., so maybe he doesn’t meet requirements. Doesn’t seem to matter anymore. I wish Michael Steel had given the Republican response though. He’s good and a natural speaker; has command of the issues.

    • harper

      It doesn’t matter where the pregnancy took place. As long as the birth occured inside the US, he is a citizen.

      • FrenchNail

        WRONG!!! Natural born citizen meant at the time of the writing of the constitition and ever since, Born on the territory of the United States AND born from TWO parents who were american citizens at the time of the said birth.

        • tek

          French Nail: if that is the wording then Obama is not a natural citizen. His father was never an American citizen and his father was in Africa when Obama was born. I wonder what difference it makes that Obama’s parents weren’t married, or if they were, it was bigamy because Obama’s father already had two or three wives in Africa. It’s just mind-blowing that all of Obama ‘s background never became a public issue during the election.

          Jindal is creepy. Larry, I love your agenda, you should be prez, or VP to Hil. All the comparison of Obama to FDR, but where are the moratoriums FDR used to get over the Depression?

        • Baba Rum Raisin

          Well, aren’t we just the PEZ dispenser of incorrect information?

          Please read the 14th Amendment to the Constitution and peruse, at your leisure, the decision United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (of 1898, in case you have trouble finding it).

          • FrenchNail

            Sorry to rain on your parade but if you indeed read Wong, you’ll see that it in noway refute the long standing definition of Natural Born Citizen as stated above.

            Natural Born citizen = Born in US from TWO American citizens

            • Pieter B

              The US code says anyone born in the US, with a tiny exception for children of foreign diplomats and others not subject to US jurisdiction, is a citizen at birth, i.e., “natural born.”

              See my post above — search the page for “1401.”

          • Bruce

            In United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, the Supreme Court decided 6-2 that Wong Kim Ark was a citizen by right of his birth in he US under the 14th Amendment. Thus, he did not need to be naturalized; thus, he was a natural-born citizen. You can only become a citizen in two ways: by right of birth (natural-born) or by action of a Federal Court (naturalization). There is no third way.

            In addition, the Supreme Court, in a rare display of ideological unity, has made it very clear that they have no interest in defining a third way. In fact, along with the issue of members of Congress serving in offices for which they have voted for increases in salary (Hilary Clinton and many others) it’s not entirely clear that the Supreme Court would ever exclude a citizen from being elected no matter where they were born. If Arnold Schwarzenegger ran for President and was elected, it’s not clear, under rulings decided over a long period of time by justices of very broad ideological perspectives, who would have standing to bring a complaint. Right or wrong, that just seems to be the way the Court has been leaning for a long time and none of the nine has really been complaining about it.

        • harper

          care to show the law that defines it that way? there is no requirement to be born from TWO parents. it;s not that way, stop repeating that nonsense. are you part of the crowd still accusing obama of being a foreigner?

          • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

            Are you still part of the crowd that believes Obama IS a natural born citizen?

            Hurry along. The kool-aid truck is coming down your street.

    • harper

      It doesn’t matter where the pregnancy took place. As long as the birth took place inside the US, he is a citizen.

      • KintheNorthwest

        Hey the agrument is and has always been was Obama born in the US.
        If he was show the real long form BC.
        Also if he was born in the US(Hawaii) why did his parents say he was an Indonesian citizen when he was in school in Indoneia? Hey Obama if your parents lied just say so.

      • FrenchNail

        Yes, he is an American Citizen but not a Natural Born citizen

  • baltochefnancy

    was it me or did bobby speak to us like…..uh we are in the 4th grade?

    ahh, I must be having a dejavu? Bush.

    must be called ” republican speak”

    no thanks and I agree Barry STFU! I own a business and am tired of

    NO person nights.. just since the beginning of this year!

    my button reads 08- either way we’re fucked!

    • tango

      Well I just read the text of Jindals speech and I don’t think it was that bad. Unfortunately, the delivery suffered. If he had done significantly better in how he gave the speech, I think his reviews would’ve been much more positive.

    • AF catfish

      Yes, he did speak to us like he was reading us a children’s storybook.

      The text of the speech had a few good points.

  • http://www.moneymakerjobs.com Samuel Jones

    Jindal was pathetic. Is that really the best the GOP has to offer? He looked like an amateur after Obama’s speech. I think Obama actually had higher ratings from REPUBLICANS than Jindal did to give you an idea of how much better he was.

    Obama’s speech was stunningly good.

    • noproblama

      Obama’s speech was stunningly good.

      Gee, too bad I got totally creeped out and had to turn it off after two minutes.

      I am so freaking tired of being lied to by the surreal Orwellian plot that is our current administration. And here I thought Bush was insulting my intelligence.

      My former party sold it’s soul for power, so guess I’ll just have to wait for the devil to take his due.

  • James

    He sounded like Kenneth from 3rd rock.

    • James

      **30 rock.. long day

    • Karma

      LOL…long day here too.

      I was trying to remember who Kenneth was on ’3rd Rock from the Sun’.

      Couldn’t recognize the name. So wondered if it was the goofy guy who played their dog…..until I saw your correction.

  • baltochefnancy

    Hey Anne you are delusional , I live here in Maryland and Steele was ERlich’s
    dufus fetch it boy!

    ” we need a hip-hop revival” of the republican party, scare me!

    glad he’s out of MD politics!

    • http://firefox AnnieCollier

      Michael Steel knows how to speak on the issues and stand of the GOP. That’s all I’m going on.

      Anyone would have made a better impression than Jindal. I think another one like that and Jindal can say bye bye to national office. Pretty limp.

  • elise

    I wondered about Gov Palin also. She would have generated more excitement and plain talk. The Republican leadership has been trying to undermine her since the election.

    I didn’t listen to Jindal’s speech, but I have heard some Republicans admit the party has made mistakes, although they still seem to want to defend the indefensible (GWB). Politicians seem to have a problem admitting their mistakes regardless of party and that is what people want to hear along with a promise to make better decisions in the future.

  • tango

    Man, I’m so sorry Jindal was a disapointment. I think he was nervous, probably realized that his speech was seriously lacking compared to what Obama just gave and he froze. He does so much better during interviews though. And being from SE Texas, his accent didn’t bother me a bit. I feel he has only up to go regarding public speaking. I’d love to see any speaches he’s given as Governor for comparison.

    I heard Ed Rollins say on CNN that noone who ever gives these response speeches does well. It’s not like they ever go on to blazing political careers either so Sarah Palin should be glad she wasn’t chosen to give this speach. Analysts also said it was short on details so wouldn’t appeal to many because all they could then concentrate was on delivery verses content.

    If I had a few wishes, I wish the GOP would get some concrete details and put them out there! I also wish the GOP would hire some decent new speechwriters and stop trying to be nice all the time. Larry, I liked your speech above, do you want the job?

    • truthtelling007

      “I think he was nervous, probably realized that his speech was seriously lacking compared to what Obama just gave and he froze”

      He’s the governor of Louisiana…he’s been a representative before and is simply looking into a camera. If he’s still stiff after all these years of service and public speaking then he’s done for. Presidential candidate in 2012? don’t think so. He couldn’t inspire anyone with this sort of delivery.

      Now…he might be the nicest guy in the world, so I won’t write him off as some sort of idiot, but frankly the GOP is in a tailspin.

    • tek

      Really, I think Larry’s agenda demonstrates why the NeoCon policies don’t work. Anyone who believes there should be no government regulation or oversight must be a corporate millionaire, or just plain stupid. Because the corporations and millionaires were given free rein in Bushs administration, now the U. S. has to implement the soft socialism that conservatives are so afraid of, but I guess conservatives implode if they think the government is going to help average people. They don’t have a problem with Republican government’s handing our corporate or christian socialism.

      • Mutiny on the Mounds Bar

        I’m stunned by how dumbed down our voters have become.

    • DR

      I heard Ed Rollins say on CNN that noone who ever gives these response speeches does well. It’s not like they ever go on to blazing political careers either</em

      I seem to remember Jim Webb doing a pretty good job. And I can’t remember anybody doing a worse job then Jindal did.

      Its kind of a copout to say that nobody does it well, simply because nobody went to go on and become President afterwards.

      • tango

        I didn’t say it, Ed Rollins did. I was just paraphrasing him.
        I think pretty much anyone who followed Obama would’ve been found lacking in some way or other. Either in charisma or substance.

  • GUESSWHAT

    The Republicans blew it again by having Bobby Jindal
    give the rebuttal speech!!! He didn’t impress me!!
    “WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU REPUB SENATORS AND GOVERNORS??” IF YOU REPUBS DON’T WAKE UP, OBAMA IS GETTING READY TO GET RID OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND HAVE A “ONE PARTY GOVERNMENT”, THE DEMOCRATS!!! IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT??

  • Strawberry

    Larry, have you ever thought of running for office? ‘Cause both parties totally suck wind. (Pretty please with sugar on top?)

  • harper

    that response started very bad. I was surprised at how wooden and irrelevant it was after the show put by Obama. What a waste of precious tv time and national exposure. No wonder the republicans are more and more irrelevant every day.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

    I have never figured out the excitement surrounding Jindal. Sorry. Is it because he looks exotic?

    Anyway, his response was completely lacking. Why didn’t they have Sarah Palin or the real truth teller lately, Pat Buchanan respond?

    Anyway, Obama blahblahed on and Jindal sucked.

    Thank-God that’s at least over.

    • Jackarooty

      Yes, you are correct sir! Uncle Pat would have been the perfect person to deliver the GOP response.

      My expectations were high for Bobby Jindal and like most I was extremely disappointed. His delivery was like he was reading a grade school bedtime story to us. I have seen him in action and he has remarkable credentials. The GOP powers that be can work on the delivery. I watched the beginning of Barry’s speech so I could see our girl come down leading the Cabinet procession. She looked lovely in her pink jacket and she went right over to Justice Ruth and hugged and kissed her and held both her hands as they spoke. Jeesh I even saw Barry give Hillary a peck on the cheek. I just enjoy watching the pomp and circumstance and the people watching…kiss kiss! After the first 5 minutes I muted my TV and went on facebook. The speech was just more of the same.

      Meet the new boss…same as the old boss.

  • Karma

    Jindal truly wasted that air time.

    With a speech like yours, he could have sealed the deal for Reps in the midterm elections. That would have lit a fire under everyone and given each Rep a campaign platform that truly represented change.

    It would have drawn a stark contrast to the same old thing that Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are offering.

    Nocturnal Warrior asked a compelling question on the radio show. Who was responsible for the content of the speech? Was it Jindal or the Rep party?

    It seems someone might need a copy of your version.

  • http://liberalrapture.com/ John (from Liberal Rapture)

    I won’t ever vote for Palin or Jindal for policy reasons. But I’d get behind Palin as my President were she to win.

    GOP conservatives have a silly fantasy about Jindal. Obama would wipe the floor with him in 2012. Even if we see the worst 4 years in American history.

    All in all, this was a very good night for Sarah Palin.

    • Karma

      I agree, it was a good night for Palin.

      Have to admit I don’t know enough about Jindal’s record or policies. But the GOP needs to snap out of it if they think this is the guy in 2012.

      He can speak better than Obama can off the cuff from the couple of interviews I have seen. But they were short segments and much of it was about Katrina. So clearly he would be up on that as Gov.

  • Touchet

    Its all part of the show. He did on purpose and you know it.

  • DinoSilver

    Jindal does elevate Sarah as a real possibility for a 2012 run. Jindal is probably just not ready yet. He is, after all, only 37 years of age. He could use some more seasoning. Look out for him in 8 years, if we end up with BO that long.

  • socalannie

    Larry, what great ideas. Why can’t you be president?

    • tango

      He doesn’t need to be President. He just needs someone in the GOP to listen to him and take one for the team and give a version of this speach in a national forum. Then if it bombs with the public, the sacrifical GOP lamb is fondly remembered (and compenstated appropriately later) for his willingess to be a team player and jeopardize his/her own career to get out the message. If the message scores big with the American public, it can then be the message and details everyone is screaming the GOP needs to regain any sort of relevance.

      • socalannie

        Yeah, but who would that be? For some reason, getting elected to public office seems to turn people into wusses. On both sides. I’m so sick of both parties.

  • Joy

    Are you all on crack? You think Palin who can not speak in complete sentences would have been better than Jindal? Folks in La are not happy with Jindal now but he came through in Katrinia as one of the few Republicans who got it and got his folks help.

    • JustMe

      I think it’s u on crack…. did you not here Obama stumble all the way through the primaries and GE… he got there by paying people off… plain and simple. NO other way!
      he cannot even talk without a plastic screen so keep your crack….

      • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

        Joy must have missed the teleprompter tennis game this evening where Obama defended his title against himself.

        Can’t we vote Obama off the island? Sheesh.

        • Cindy

          You’re a scream, Buzz!
          Even I if were inclined to watch barack, I would get seasick having to watch his head go back and forth. He really does look like a net judge. It’s so distracting, not that I care. But honestly, who is advising him, Andre Agassi?
          jeeze

        • http://www.moneymakerjobs.com Samuel Jones

          We already voted, and Obama is not only on the island, he’s the President of the island.

          • TeakwoodKite

            Yeah, but he was not born on the Island.

            • lorac

              LOL

            • beebop

              And we can vote him OFF!!!

              Apparently Keith Obombamann did his usual nonjournalistic turn tonight and muttered “oh, God” on the air as Governor Jindal approached the microphone.

              Whatever Obombamann thinks of anyone other than himself, he might want to appear like a journalist and try to show some impartiality. The guy is just a hideous costume party version of a journalist.

      • Joy

        JustMe, please read my comments again. No where did Obama’s name appear.

        • JustMe

          you brought Palin into the conversation I am entitled to offer a view on Obama?
          Is there something wrong with that?

          • Joy

            JustMe, please work on your reading comprehension skills. Some of the posters commented on how Palin would have been a better choice than Jindal to give the Republican response. My comment was in response to them. I did not think Palin who has difficulty in speaking in complete sentences would have been a better choice than Jindal to give the Republican response.

            • Karma

              And why exactly does that negate JustMe from offering Obama as someone who has difficult in speaking in complete sentences?

              Because she clearly understood what you wrote by offering the Democratic version of a poor speaker.

              So reading comprehension wasn’t the issue.

              Try again.

              • Joy

                I did not bring Palin into this. Other posters did. I voiced the opinion that Palin would not have done a better job than Jindal in giving the Republican response because in part she does not always speak in complete sentences.

                As for Obama being an example of a poor speaker on the Democratic side, since he’ll be speaking for the next four years it will give him plenty of time to improve for JustMe.

                • Karma

                  So you open up with an insulting comment and then state your opinion.

                  And JustMe whips a version of the same insult/opinion combo back at you.

                  Sorry, it still doesn’t rate as a reading comprehension issue.

                  You are taking her quote of ‘you brought Palin into the conversation’ as proof she thinks you were the first on the thread to bring it up.

                  That isn’t proof. It is an assumption which might work better if the board operated with the most recent post at the top. But it doesn’t.

                  Try again.

                  As far as Obama’s speaking improving over the next four years.

                  What the hell was he doing the last two years? He should have this stuff down cold, it is all he has been talking about. Palin was on the national stage for a couple of months and was subjected to edits and lies to make her look worse.

                  While Obama was subjected to bj journalism by the MSM and his constant mistakes were covered up.

                  Really….if you need to lie to yourself this much….that is fine. But don’t expect us to join you in that delusion.

                  If Obama was treated by the MSM the same way Palin was from the start….Hillary would be President right now.

                  • Joy

                    Karma, a check back on the day and times shows others brought up the Palin would have done better than Jindal comment and my response was they must be on crack. JustMe comes back with his crack comment and states Obama has difficulty speaking. Again I never said Obama was a good speaker. But with four years or maybe eight he’ll have plenty of time to improve.

                    As for Palin, she worked as a TV reporter so I expect her to be a professional. It was her job to speak in front of a camera. Then there is the TV coverage as the Governor of Alaska. It’s not like it was the first time she was ever on TV. I would expect her to be able to answer what newspapers she reads. It is not a difficult question. There was no edits there just a long long long pause by her.

                    • Karma

                      Joy….snap out of it!

                      We all read the thread and know you weren’t the first to bring up Palin.

                      Geez…the first comment is about Palin. You are how many Palin posts down thread from that comment? You are making assumptions about JustMe that don’t pan out.

                      She whipped your same shit back at you…it has nothing to do with reading comprehension. Clearly, to whip a version back at you. She would have to understand WHAT you were saying in the first place. A point that repeatedly seems to escape you.

                      Anyway, you expect Palin to be professional thanks to journalism/tv experience. That would be great if the same profession was actually professional towards her.

                      I don’t consider outright lying about a sitting Gov to be professional.

                      I don’t consider editing her answers to be professional.

                      I don’t consider playing gotcha games with her while covering up Obama’s faux pas to be professional.

                      And while Obama was on training wheels with the media and still is. Gov Palin’s experience was constantly ridiculed by the MSM.

                      And yes, the newspaper question wasn’t a difficult question…it was an insulting one. Shame you don’t know the difference….but I suspect if ‘race card Obama’ was asked the same question. That would bring it home for the Obots.

                    • Joy

                      Karma, of course I know the difference. The “what newspapers do you read” could be a put down. She’s a hick, she’a woman take your pick. Instead of Palin answering the question and showing up Kaite Couric for asking it Palin looked like an ill informed candidate who could not even answer a simple question.

                      Did the press cut Obama slack probably because he was the first viable black presidential candiate? You bet. That doens’t erase the fact that at times Palin had trouble and was confused in comunicating ideas.

                    • C.S.

                      “Obama” of the many names was not the first “viable black presidential candidate”. That would be Shirley Chisholm! Not only a real African American but female, too. She may not have reached that “magic number” the Democratic party gave Soertoro/Obama but that doesn’t mean she wasn’t The First; just that the Democratic party still had their woman president hang up back then. There just doesn’t seem to be any female the Democratic party doesn’t think “not this woman” even when she’s a better choice than the half white guy whose relatives say he was born in Kenya.

                    • JustMe

                      Yes Karma look what assumption got us.. and hoping in 4 yrs Obama will of raised his speaking skills. The country needs a good President now not a guy with training wheels and Joy thinks we are all on crack because we do not agree with her/him.

                      Joy you’re like a broken record however that’s just what your leader wants someone to offer a true reflection of himself.

                    • Joy

                      C.S. it is sad but the US of A was not gonna consider a black female as a presidential candidate in 1972. She was not a viable candidate.

                    • JustMe

                      She was not a viable candidate.

                      Why was she not viable?

            • http://deleted Buzz Latte LaRue

              Joy – Apparently that would be your opinion, then, and not necessarily the absolute truth.

              • JustMe

                Are you all on crack?
                work on your reading comprehension skills.


                You are so full of taking down to people.

                I will not be listening for 4yrs so I will never know if he gets better or continues to ramble his way um um err um through and as for u if you like him so much run off to huff post and beat your drum.

      • JustMe

        “hear”

    • harper

      at this point, Palin is a much better communicator than Jindal. and with the experience she got from the campaign, she should be even better now.

      jindal has time to improve, but this national introduction was very bad, and impressions count…

    • elise

      Joy, you must have missed Gov Palin’s acceptance speech in September. If the media and bloggers hadn’t spread lies about her and her family, people would remember that speech as outstanding. The teleprompter went off, but she managed to get through without skipping a beat. Would Obama have been able to do that? I don’t think so. I remember only too well how they treated Hillary and, although I am not a Republican, I recognize a hit job when I see it and I wrote to media outlets to protest the sexism just as I did for Hillary. Nothing will ever change unless people like you start thinking beyond lables and stop listening to the media spin.

      • Joy

        elsie, I did listen to Palin’s acceptance speech and she did a great adlib save with the lipstick on a pig joke when the teleprompter messed up. And she gave a good speech. Then I listened to her in unscripted situations and it went down hill from there for me.

        As for labels and spin I watch a number of stations (FOX , CNN, MSNBC etc) to see how they spin it. For the conventions and major speeches, I watch C-Span to filter out the spin.

        I did listen to Jindal during the hell of Katrina in the water fighting for his constituents in an articulate passionate way.

    • tek

      Joy: I wonder how people in LA will feel about Jindal after he let’s them starve and lose everything because he’s trying to draw attention to himself by refusing assistance for the people of his state–many of whom are black, and the stimulus is passed by a black president. Yah, that’s great political acumen.

      • beebop

        How many of them know that more money is being promised to the criminals in Palestine than them? How will that sit?

    • The Real HC

      Where did this “Palin cant speak in full sentences” meme originate? What reporter said it first such that all these bots take it as a mantra? Someone had to invent it for them, they dont write their own material.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    Very bad presentation. Really really bad.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    I hate to say this, but I think they started pushing Jindal because they want to look diverse. Being the republican party, they don’t have much to pick from in the diversity department. I never even heard of the guy until Republicans started dropping his name. He seems like a really nice fellow but he’s a bust in the communications department, and his message was just some more of the same old tired crap. Whomever said Obama would wipe the floor with him was being gentle.

    • tango

      Well here is his victory speech when he won the Governorship of Lousiana. I didn’t watch more than the first five minutes but he sure seemed more compelling in that speech then that one tonight.

      http://blog.nola.com/tpvideo/2007/10/bobby_jindals_entire_victory_s.html

      Nerves? Fear? Hampered by what the GOP leadership wanted him to say or act? Gosh knows they didn’t do a very good job directing Sarah Palins debut either.

      • Touchet

        Or maybe he is an obama supporter and he flunked on purpose.

        • beebop

          Right.

          Sure.

          That’s it.

          Uh huh.

    • I’m a Linda too

      I think tonight showed his doesn’t have what it takes.

      • beebop

        Yes, thank GOD …

    • tek

      Uppity Woman: I suppose they think he can’t be accused of racism because he’s also dark-skinned. It looks bad, minorities dissing other minorities.

  • I’m a Linda too

    Larry, I’m sure the Republicans are quite sorry they gave Jindal this time and even sorrier they didn’t have you and your wisdom.

  • IndieDogg

    Well said, Larry, as always.

    But, a point on the Palin banter. Were does this idea come from, that the Governor can’t put a sentence together?

    Let me ask this question, for clarification. How many of you have gone to the trouble to actually look up her speeches, and her past debates (not merely the Biden mop up but her numerous debates with the former AK Governor and Senator in her state race(s)), watched the FULL interviews she’s given, and I mean all of them, not the clips that you get from the grocery check out line. In other words, how many of us on this page have actually done the homework we accuse the Obots and adoring Omedia of not doing? Are you/we aware of how much input she had on her convention speech, really, or are we bouncing back the media-generated perception like cawing crows?

    All I can say is this. I don’t know who I’ll support this far out next time around. But, as the Obama staffers (who had reviewed ALL of her previous debate performances) warned the media on the plane on the way to the Biden/Palin debate, do not underestimate this lady. In their words, “She can bring it.”

    No, I don’t intend to stay up to bat that back and forth so have at it. But, I just wanted to throw some cold water on the fools who are dismissing her, particularly for the hackneyed “hick” caricature. It’s tired. It’s not true. And it’s only going to come back and bite you (and Obama, I hope) in the ass if you persist in the delusion.

    As for Bobby. He’ll do better. 2012 is a long time from now. Personally, I’d prefer him as a VP candidate but, again, there’s a lot of water that’s got to go under the bridge between now and then.

    Whatever happens, let’s stand up!!

    I wrote a speech for Senator Clinton that she never gave. I still think she’d have won the election if she had and if the DNC had taken it’s knee off of her throat. Politicians don’t think (most of them) that people want to hear unvarnished truth. They might be surprised.

    Back to Governor Palin. I do not think she is among that group. So, aw shucks her to your heart’s delight. It only plays to her hand.

    Best of luck to all of us and to all a good night.

    • Karma

      Great points!

      I did bother to watch her Alaskan debates at the time. And remember the “She can bring it.” comments.

      And for those Obots who think she can’t.

      Then why did Biden have to lie his a** off in that debate? His performance was shameful considering his 35 years of experience. There was no reason he should have to resort to such a tactic unless he was under pressure from the ‘hick’.

  • so saddened

    won’t let o’s face darken my tv screen, so missed both his speech and jindal’s rebuttal. but have to say, larry, that your suggestions for jindal sound more like something the big zero would put out there – %5000 grants, 10% rebates on boat purchases, etc. not exactly the kind of thing you want the gov’t to do when deficits/the debt are out of control. imho, the repubs should just do a better job of putting out their tax cut message. even when they propose a cut in the 10% rate, which only applies to the lowest income levels, they are painted as only wanting tax cuts for the rich. if they truly want tax cuts for lower and middle income people, and can get that message through the media distortion maze, that message could resonate. and tax cuts would help. i’d much rather see tax rate cuts than so-called “refundable” credits.

    have seen your proposal to stick it to government workers before – perhaps you’ve met a lot of well paid, lazy, useless, government workers in washington or wherever, but remember that there are a lot of va hospital workers, medicare or social security or whatever claims processors, file clerks, etc., who do not deserve the generic scorn thrown at civil servants and cannot afford the pay cuts you suggest. just because they toil for the government instead of an insurance company or whatever doesn’t mean they’re some kind of enemy.

    • http://NoQuarterUSA.net Larry Johnson

      But they are still getting paid from funds collected from primarily non-government workers. Let’s call it White Man’s Welfare. If they don’t like it let them find a comparable job in the private sector.

      • Publius

        Where’s that tape, Larry?

        • beebop

          Up your anus. :)

      • so saddened

        most dems support a lot of government programs, like social security, medicare, medical care for veterans, etc. by definition, the people who do the work that provide the services for those programs are government workers. some clean the floors or nurse patients in the va hospitals. some take grandma’s application for social security benefits and make sure she gets a check. some work at yellowstone or yosemite. calling their jobs “white man’s welfare” is disrespectful as well as inconsistent with democratic principles. just sayin’.

      • Sally

        I take offense with white mans welfare…I much rather call it “Middle class welfare”….especially the scientists etc getting paid via grant for all kinds of so-called research! I was one of em…and that how it felt. I did nevertheless some of the hardest work of my life during this time. But was it usefull? Of course not (only to me).

  • Touchet

    Did you guys notice how Obama used the line “And the nation that invented it will not walk away from it” when referring to automobiles.

    Now, Its my understanding that Karl Benz invented the automobile. So whats up with that. I mean he got a standing ovation for that?

    • Touchet

      Oh sorry, missed the whole point. Karl Benz is a German.

      • JustMe

        Karl Benz (Carl Benz)
        In 1885, German mechanical engineer, Karl Benz designed and built the world’s first practical automobile to be powered by an internal-combustion engine.

        Karl Friedrich Benz was born in 1844 in Baden Muehlburg, Germany (now part of Karlsruhe).

        • Seattle Moss

          I saw that too and thought Benz…
          Henry Ford invented the auto assembly line.
          Just one of those little errors.

          Like Biden saying that FDR spoke to the nation on TV at the start of the great depression.

          I can think of 57 more goofs….

          • Liz

            Well, shit, Obama is only the president. It really shouldn’t matter that his speeches are factually correct. So who cares if he hires careless, incompetent speechwriters who are apparently not only sexist but ignorant and computer illiterate. Gee, wonder if a Google search could have provided adequate fact-checking? Nah, why bother. It’s only the president speaking. Why should he want to inspire trust in what he’s saying by making sure his statements are, you know, um, factual?

            • beebop

              And since the media has no history of actually holding him responsible — even when its not the speechwriters who pen ridiculous things like, uh, um 57 states, who would uh could, no wait, wait should no, no, no, that’s not right, here it is might possibly (phew) imagine that someone would pick that out from a sentence that resonated so well … it’s the prose isn’t it?

    • tek

      Touchet: it’s an Obamaism. He’s as misspoken as Bush. My theory is it’s the crack.

    • Hilary4HRC

      Maybe we were first in mass production?

  • robert

    Better to lay a turd than actually be one. Obama just sits there long and brown and stinking up the place.

  • samb

    Turd sums it up perfectly, no other words needed.

  • Jackarooty

    Most of us are in agreement that Jindal’s delivery sucked but that’s just the show biz aspect of politics. Even our girl Hillary had to learn how to modulate her voice and as it has been said (in hindsight sadly) she found her voice on the campaign trail. Hillary’s content was always intelligent and articulate but she was shrill and ears shut down sound after it reaches a certain decibel.
    Well now our girl certainly knows how to capture the attention of any crowd and hold it! It is a learned skill. Does anyone remember when The Big Dawg spoke at the 1988 democratic convention? It was rated as one of the most boring speeches that when he said “in conclusion” people cheered…he hasn’t bored us since that speech!

  • OhioDem

    I turned Jindal off 10 minutes into the response. He is just plain awful. If this guy is the candidate for POTUS, God help the GOP. The best candidate the GOP has for 2012 is the good governor of the State of Alaska.

    Larry I did enjoy reading your response and have to say there are a few good men left.

  • r2d2

    Larry, unfortunately our two parties, Republicans and Democrats, are bankrupt of ideas, and that’s maybe why these two parties, except for Bill Clinton, have bankrupted the treasury.

  • http://syd4.blogspot.com Stray Yellar Dawg

    As a Sarah Palin supporter for 2012…. I guess I’ll admit that I am overjoyed!

    http://syd4.blogspot.com/2009/02/what-happens-if-bobby-jindal-bombs.html

  • ame

    Jindal spoke as if he were adressing a room full of children; he did a great imitation of Mr. Rogers.

  • Betty

    I’ll drink to that!!!

  • Linda C.

    Who the republicans really need is the gov. from Utah. The republicans are going to be irrelevant if they do not come up with something other than the same old slogans and do nothing. They are even going back to Newt’s old playbook. Remember the “Contract with America”? Always resisting democrats because they are democrats, continuing the hot button topics of abortion and gays to get the base riled up over nothing. That was the only contract they pushed in reality.

  • Linda C.

    I did want to add to those who think that the government spending did nothing for the economy under Bush. It did wonders for other people’s economy such as Haliburton’s. It did wonders for the billions of dollars that went missing in Iraq. It did wonders for “outsourcing” government activities to sectors outside our own economy and it did wonders for padding people’s pockets.

  • Elsie

    One speech by Republican Bobby Jindal does not define who he is and what he has to offer us.. As a former Democrat so used to watching Republicans bashing Democrats and Democrats showing no balls to fight back, I really rejoice that the Republicans is now on the receiving end of this political battering.. Gone were the days when I have to watch Tom Delay and Newt and both Bushies and even Reagan, William Safire and, Ken Star and all the mean spiritedness and arrogance they displayed and practiced.

    On the other hand, I like seeing the Democrats self destruct as they are bound to lose all this support from the American people if they continue their stupid policies and or lack thereof in trying to solve our economic problems. The Democrats solution to this crisis does not give much hope, but Republicans have no solutions either. Yes, I agree to some who have been clamoring for the return of the Clinton era. But silly Democrats, they refused to do so and prop up this amateurish, inexperienced and does not have a clue kind of leader. Again, I just love to see him self implode and sorry for you Democrats in power, you are not getting my support unless you earned it..

    Sarah Palin is not and should not be the Republican’s answer to this political soap opera.. She can not convince me that she has the same caliber and brilliance and wisdom as HRC. SP is an astute politician and she will survive, but if you are looking for a true leader and ready on day one to lead, you got HRC and not this black guy who is so immature and so irresponsible.

    • lark

      Elsie, HRC is history. She had her chance and she blew it. Is over for her. Maybe Chelsea but I doubt that too.

      Palin has the spirit of America running through her veins. Fine if you want America to change and become something newly defined and hybrid. But if you cherish who we are and where we come from, then Palin has what it takes. No one else does at this time. Everyone else is out for themselves.

      • beebop

        I am with you … Sarah should use her assets.

        • Elsie

          Good for you that you have faith in SP.. Still and all, this is where I depart from those who suffered defeat because O was overwhelmingly fooled people.. Just remember that all politicians have the same goal.. run for office and win and once they are in office, they all behave the same way. I am sorry but Sarah Palin does not have the caliber and wisdom and experience of women politician I admire to name a few: the 2 Republican Senators from Maine, Snow and Collins. Boxer and Feinstein are not good materials even if they have high profiles, Two factors working against them…. gender and religion. OOOps, I dread to see the day Michelle will pick up where her husband left off. But she might. Maybe I am out of touch if Sarah Palin inspires the new generation of young women.. so be it, but my generation, I don’t think she has inspired us at all..Again, maybe we should listen to our daughters just like people who supported O listened to their teenagers and decided to vote for O..

          • beebop

            I think that by time 2012 rolls around voters will be looking for RR for real. She’s a hell of a lot closer to him than anyone else on the political scene.

          • lark

            I don’t know why you say that of SP. She threatened to resign from her State Oil and Gas Commission and that action caused fundamental changes in that structure. She challenged her party’s governor and defeat him. She challenged her effectiveness as a productive person while being pregnant. She has challenged innumerable issues, including personal embarrassments and political railroading an has come out victorious. She keeps challenging the status quo on the national problems even though it is obvious she is a far away consideration. She challenges everything in sight and she comes out in top.

            WHAT *&^ MORE DO YOU WANT FROM ANYONE?

          • lark

            Sarah Palin is the most extraordinary woman in our present history. I don’t say that your daughters or mine are not extraordinary. But in the public arena, as a person who has sacrificed everything to become a public servant, in the public arena, she is the most extraordinary woman presently serving. Just the fact that she pumped while working as a governor and even during the early stages of a national campaign makes her specially unique. Something no man could ever accomplish and few women can. This woman is obsessed with challenges, personal and professional, and in every case she comes out victorious. Sarah Palin is brilliant and wise because she was able to successfully jog being a mother and campaigning for the vice-presidency of the United States. Brilliant and wise like no other. Best of the best. Like no other human being in the planet.

            • The Real HC

              Palin doesnt have a penis. Some people will perform any mental gymnastics necessary not to vote for a woman. Unfortunately many of these mental gymnasts are women.

              • beebop

                The new Burger King mini burger ad is a classic case of making women look stupid at any cost. I can’t believe how offensive that ad is. I won’t buy anything from Burger King. They don’t want my money. That message is pretty clear.

                • Elsie

                  I agee with your opinion on the burger king ads.. For me, I decided less of fast food the better for my health and especially my heart. Won’t buy burger king and wont buy any company that brings out the worse in women in their commercials

        • Sally

          I agree…Palin 2012 or 2016. She definately has what it takes. The only problem is the media hated her before she even came out of the gate. Hard to do anything when the entire media-hi tech-illiberal complex is against you. Given that fact she still did great and with great poise. I like her because she inspires me as a woman and a human being.

      • tek

        Hillary Clinton for President 2016!!!! It’s never too late for a great leader.

        • beachnan

          I agree tek!!!! In my humble opinion, Hillary is still head and shoulders above Sarah. I voted McCain/Palin, because I simply could not vote for the fraud Obama, but I believe Palin has to gain more experience to be on Hillary’s level. I also agree with more of the ideals of the Democratic Party than the Republican Party, however, I will make my choice based on the individual, not the party.

  • go4one

    FairTax County median income is $98k/yr and home prices/rentals are indicative of that. That is why so many live so far away from DC.
    As a civil servant, my family and I have very little to show for it. We are fortunate we can afford a roof over our head which is a big thing these days. As for any “extras” – there are none. We drive a vehicle with 100k on it. When we eat out, it’s to a pizza joint. Nothing special. We have never gone on a vacation.
    Yesterday, we got our tax assessment. Our house is worth $70k less than last year. Overall, it has lost nearly half of it’s value.
    We, like most Americans, are just trying to get by.
    If we were to be forced to take a pay cut, we would be sunk and so would a lot of people who work in the DC area.

  • http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/25/political-wimps-and-cowards-whining-about-guantanamo-terrorists/#more-12310 marie

    Jindal was not speaking to all of us; just the base of the Republican Party whom he’ll need in the primaries. I think that may account for the 4th grade sound of it.

    I thought the “oh, God” was Chris Matthews and, though it was unprofessional, it may have been a reaction to the visual contrast of the President speaking against the backdrop of that great congressional hall with all the congress, cabinet and supreme court arrayed in front of the camera and then Jindal comes walking toward the camera from what appeared to be a front hallway in a small house. No excuses, though, they should all know about the dangers of live mics.

    • beebop

      Sorry there, Marie. It was politically motivated. No other reason for it. Bobby Jindal is the anti 0bomba insofar as Tingles and Spittle are concerned. They should find other jobs if they can’t bring the one thing to the jobs they have that a “journalist” needs — objectivity. If they are going to be opinionators, I would rather have Liz Smith who as of Friday is out of work. At least that would put a woman to work.

      • http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/25/political-wimps-and-cowards-whining-about-guantanamo-terrorists/#more-12310 marie

        I think it’s pretty clear that Chris Matthews and Keith Oberman are Obama supporters; no argument there. I’m probably projecting because it was a shock to me that Jindal was so poorly staged. For events like this, visuals are quite important. ( I did not gasp “Oh, God,” however, even without a live mic.)

      • nancy sabet

        He is a forigner to me , just like Hissien.

      • nancy sabet

        He is a forigner to me , just like Hussien.

        • http://www.dcmediagirl.com DCMediagirl

          Nice spelling skills. Bigoted much?

    • beebop

      And Marie, 0bomba wasn’t speaking to all of us, either. Just the ones who believe that when he uses the word “hope,” he isn’t lying.

  • Liz

    At last, you hit the nail on the head. This precisely is what the Republican party DOES NOT and will not support:

    “In proposing this approach we recognize that Government has a legitimate and responsible role to play in helping promote the welfare and security of our people.”

    Republicans believe that government should be drowned in a bathtub and that it can only do harm to citizens. They should rename themselves the Anarchist/Oligarchy party.

    • beebop

      One question for you: With all that is going on that is serious in the nation, how necessary was it for the house to spend time deciding that the citizens of this nation can’t own chimpanzees? I put it a 0 on a scale of 10, but hey, that’s just me.

    • lark

      Republicans believe that government should be drowned in a bathtub

      What a great idea. Republicans lost their ground when they try to appeal to the center just because they want to win an election.

      Republicans need to allow the Democrats and people like Obama to win elections until the country technically is completely wiped out. If the Republicans can’t stand for God and principle and be true to allowing America to be run by Americans, that is by main street, then they should simply join in the party like they did yesterday.

      Hurray for Socialism and the socialist. Like GWB said, “Bring them on.” Our children are waiting with open arms. Which side of road do they have to march in and in what direction?

    • lark

      Do I have a problem with WalMart?

      Every time I complain to headquarters in Arkansas they have an area or regional manager call me to discuss the problem. This last week I got a letter from the store assistant manager Lisa requesting me to call her to discuss the last issue.

      I have no problem with this economic meltdown. I will be applying for a WalMart credit card soon. I want my paycheck to be in WalMart credits and to pay my mortgage with WalMart credits. I will close out my IRAs and deposit the sum as a credit in a WalMart credit card. All the government I need I can get it from WalMart. WalMart knows zoning, schooling, policing, fire-safety, road building, landscaping, etc. I would prefer to drop the Major and replace him with a WalMart manager.

  • PJ

    The Repubs have no one but themselves to blame and for giving us Obama on a platter.

    It will take them at least another 20 years to regain any credibility with the public, especially if they continue to insist on the “family values” bilge as a way of winning.

    To be honest, if they keep pushing people like Palin, Huckabee, Jindal, Romney, and possibly Haley Barbour as their standard bearers for 2012, they may want to consider just handing the whole thing over to the Dems without bothering to go through a primary.

    These people cannot win a general. Period.

    • beebop

      Sorry to spoil your perversion of reality, but most of the Republicans who sat on the sidelines would rather have anyone than 0bomba. You’ll see them in record numbers in 2010 when there isn’t the post racial post partisan hopester dragging the ACORNs to the polls. Then it will be interesting. At least, that’s my take on it.

      • KintheNorthwest

        I have a feeling that the people who were not sure who to vote for and finally voted Obama will probably be pulling a different lever in 2012.
        In less than 100 days Obama’s ratings are already going down as he spends a Billion $ a day on crap that the middle class and poor will never see the benefits of. From the looks of some polls it looking like Obama is losing about 1/2 % a day in the polls. At this rate it looks like the media is going to have to be doing some really hard selling in a few months.

  • Sassy

    Once BO and the Pelosi team bury old UNCLE SAM in the pauper’s plot, and divide up the inheritance, some of us might think a Republican looks really good!

  • C.S.

    Didn’t watch Jingil’s rebuttal because I can’t watch political speeches live and the media lead in is as bad; however, I saw Katie Couric referring to Jingle as the “rising star” in the Republican party. What is this? Everyone compares Soertoro/Obama’s groupies to the TV show American Idol so are we now in a battle between Democratic and Republican groupies and their “rising stars”?

    Candidates don’t have to be “cool” and “young” and flip off their opponents with rap gestures to get my vote. I prefer old fashioned leadership skills to deal with old fashioned leaders like Putin, Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong-Il; none of which are “cool” or “young” or into rap.

    (Think about a close-to-50 year old Soertoro/Obama doing his Hillary flip off rap routine during a meeting with Amadinejad.)

    • http://firefox AnnieCollier

      Katie Couric referring to Jingle as the “rising star”

      Think she was trying to glorify the weaker candidate? After savaging Sarah, naturally she’s going to try to redeem herself by touting a new Republican.

      In your dreams, Couric. BTW, Get lost.

  • KB

    Jindal left me cold. Not impressive at all. I think they were floating him out there since he’s supposed to be a potential POTUS candidate in 2012. Personally, I stopped listening to him when I saw his ego all bruised after Palin got the attention at the Governor’s meeting. He acted like a spoiled brat because he was supposed to be the next annointed one. We don’t need anymore fat egos in DC. Look at what we’ve got now and where we are. Jindal can stay home-he’s got nothing new to offer.

  • The Real HC

    Jindal is clearly a very smart man who runs his state well, but I have never found him a great speaker. To me this is a feature. Great speakers are generally snake-oil salesmen, with rare exception. The more rhetorical tricks the less substance.

    I would say Palin is an exception, she is charismatic but doesn’t use rhetoric to sell bad ideas to the hopeless masses.

    As for Obama’s speech, it containted everything I dislike all in one horrible package. I would take Palin or Jindal or Huckabee or Romney to be rid of this guy. Hell, I would write in Ann Coulter. Thats how worried I am.

  • charlie

    I think Jindal should’ve played the whitey tape!!!!!!

    Nobama!!! Give me Palin or give Death!!!!

  • Sassy

    Larry, you made some very good points.
    I disagree that the Republicans need to make a full assault at this time.
    The Democrats are totally in charge, therefore the opposing team does not have to call a single play.
    They can wait until the home team is tiring and the fans are getting restless!
    My guess is that the Republicans have at least a year before starting to push hard.
    It’s not just office holders, for the ordinary citizens will evaluate their options, and make decisions as to how they are faring. I think that those small businesses who can tread water will do so, until they get a more favorable team to work with!

  • Doc99

    Moving forward, I’d suggest Michael Steele audition each prospective Responder in a TV studio before allowing a Response in front of millions. Palin and Rudy would have both given a far better response. IN fact, I’m thinking a Palin/Giuliani ticket might be just the thing the GOP needs for 2012.

    • http://firefox AnnieCollier

      I likee…Rudy would wipe up the floor with any of their detractors. He’s won me over during the post campaign appearance he’s done. He’s very sharp on his feet and can speak on just about anything political.

  • beebop

    Most women are far too smart to buy the smallest (read least economical) item on a menu. I get so disgusted with this ad, I throw balled up socks at the television!

  • (trying to get over it)

    Obama is better at scripted teleprompter events. He is TERRIBLE @ live , non-scripted ones.

    Jindal is the opposite.

    I’ll take an honest Rhodes scholar (who can “find” his records!), who truly lived the immigrant experience, over a dishonest Harvard lawyer (who cannot “find” his records!)who had a privileged background!

  • Judy L. NC

    Yup, you and Michael Steele, Larry, will regroup the GOP.

  • Dot

    “I see Goering and Goebbels, and it’s not difficult to imagine the chambers of our Congress festooned with swastikas. Everything Obama promoted tonight is by definition fascism.”

    You conservatives need to make up your minds. Is it fascism? Socialism? Marxism? Why don’t you stop throwing out words you don’t understand? That would be a big step towards joining the real world with the adults, you know, the people who don’t sit around imagining the worst thing that can possibly happen and then when that doesn’t happen, pretending that it does? You mewlings of “oh, I’m so worried” are pathetic. If you weren’t worried during the Bush administration when this insane war and crushing debt started, you really should be a little more circumspect in your dire pronouncements about the fate of this country under Obama. Obama has the crap of the last eight years to clean up. So sure, go ahead and sit on the sidelines, offer nothing, and dream that if Obama fails you’ll sweep back into power. But remember this: at a time when the GOP checked out of the political process, content to do nothing and let the country fall to pieces, people will remember this. You’d rather do nothing and see America fail if it meant winning the next election. That’s a pretty heavy burden and one that most Americans will not forget.

    People aren’t buying what conservatives are selling. You’ve failed in the marketplace of ideas, been slapped by the invisible hand of the market, yet we see the same old tired ideas trotted out by a different face each time. Palin, Jindal, what’s the difference? You’re just masochists looking for another punch to the face.

  • Philip Henika

    What I would like to see is the combination of restored regulations and wealth with regard to what this effect may have on economic recovery. In other words, I would like to see an appeal to all sectors of economy and not just a stimulus that goes bottom up. In this regard, I think the Republicans have an argument against what could be perceived as a backlash against the wealthy many of which serve their country with distinction and generosity. So far, I have not seen this argument from Republicans and I wonder why it has not emerged. They seem determined, IMO, to be called the ‘No Party’.

  • DAB

    Didn’t see Jindall (or Obama) last night but that rascal Chris Matthews was apparently caught saying “Oh God” in a very condescending way before Jindall began his spiel. He also said something about the Republicans “outsourcing” the speech which was a boneheaded reference to Jindall’s Indian heritage. They just don’t quit, do they????

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/02/msnbc_oh_god.html

  • http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/25/political-wimps-and-cowards-whining-about-guantanamo-terrorists/#more-12310 marie

    One huge difference was that the President kept referring to Americans and Gov. Jindall repeatedly used “Republican” and “Democrat.” Heck, we’re in deep trouble now and those separations don’t hold with most of us.

    • beebop

      Most Republicans don’t want any credit for the “stimulus” when the shiz starts to hit the fan. Kind of similar to calling it shrub’s war …..

  • tango

    I think he did pretty good this morning on The Today Show interview. See him at the end where he gets a bit fiesty regaring not accepting all the stimulus money and points out that Louisiana last month was the only state to ADD jobs. Bobby needs to work on his speech giving skills but he’s certainly no intellectual slouch.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vue6M5m-LDk

  • http://lipskip.com Political Lipskip – Conservative Blog

    Unfortunately these days the people are going to expect a star. Obama is treated like a rock star. He’s a celebrity. Jindal had a good message but he just couldn’t deliver it. People were probably looking at him thinking “is this the best we have for 2012?” He’s a good voice for the Republicans but I can’t say I’m all fired up about him being the rising star. Surely there are others more suited for the task of party leadership in 2012.

    • tango

      Is there? Who? For many different reasons, old white guys can’t (McCain), younger minority guys can’t (Steele and Jindal) and women can’t either (Palin). All of them have significant problems appealing to both spectrums of the GOP plus moderates or right leaning liberals. Now we just need to try out a younger white guy or a minority woman. Anyone come to mind who’s smart, fast on their feet and charismatic?

      I did read an interesting suggestion. Someone said the GOP needs to stop with response speeches with one person alone speaking to a camera. They need to rent a hall, fill it with the American public and do the response that way instead of close up in the speakers face. I think the energy of the crowd could only help.

  • ford

    But Larry what about Chris Matthews remark that the Pub’s “outsourced” the remarks…isn’t that racist??

    What about Helen Thomas’s”Slumdog Millionaire “remark?
    Why is it that the only racists remarks…are allegedly directed at blacks???Women, Latinos, Indians…get clobbered and no one says anything.

  • Adolph republican

    God I can’t wait till the GOP is back and power and we rid the world of non believing foreigners! YEA GO GOP! Where’s Sarah Palin. I hope she births another flock of retarded children so that one day they will inherit the earth!

  • morris1030

    Jindal’s delivery was pathetic and amateurish.

    The sheer hypocracy of his position on hurricane relief was transparent and embarrassing.

    If this is the GOP’s hope for the next election, they’ve buried themselves. Jindal is insincere,obviously unprepared and corny beyond belief. And he’s prissy and hissy.

    The republicans Jindal is catering to represent the end of the Republican Party as a relevant party.

    Simply stated, they’re the…. Party of No.

    • beebop

      The sheer hypocracy of his position on hurricane relief was transparent and embarrassing.

      Kind of like more money for the Palestinians than for Louisiana? Please …. your faux outrage is rolled a little thin ….

    • tango

      If the GOP is the “Party of No”, then the Democrats right now are the “Party of Go” – as in go spend money, go bail people and banks out, go raise personal income taxes, go punish businesses by making it more expensive for them to operate, go triple the deficit, go go go, go Speed Spender go!

  • http://drawnlines.blogspot.com Drawnlines Blog

    Your proposals are downright dangerous. Jindal’s speech may have been more self-promoting than I’d liked, but I thought he was much on point.

    Also, without even having to mention Obama’s name, he illustrated why his ideas are fundamentally flawed. I thought it was alright, all in all.