Comments on: Bobby Jindal Lays a Turd http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/ Fri, 25 May 2012 01:32:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Pieter B http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1150093 Pieter B Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:43:07 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1150093 The US code says anyone born in the US, with a tiny exception for children of foreign diplomats and others not subject to US jurisdiction, is a citizen at birth, <i>i.e.,</i> "natural born." See my post above -- search the page for "1401." The US code says anyone born in the US, with a tiny exception for children of foreign diplomats and others not subject to US jurisdiction, is a citizen at birth, i.e., “natural born.”

See my post above — search the page for “1401.”

]]> By: Pieter B http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1150083 Pieter B Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:33:19 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1150083 <a href="http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html" rel="nofollow">US Code, TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401</a> <blockquote>Nationals and citizens of United States at birth The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: (a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof; </blockquote> Next? The only exception is for persons not subject to US jurisdiction, <i>e.g.</i> the children of foreign diplomats. US Code, TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401

Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

Next? The only exception is for persons not subject to US jurisdiction, e.g. the children of foreign diplomats.

]]> By: DCMediagirl http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1149575 DCMediagirl Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:57:50 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1149575 Nice spelling skills. Bigoted much? Nice spelling skills. Bigoted much?

]]> By: julianna http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1149517 julianna Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:58:44 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1149517 Agree 100% Agree 100%

]]> By: Bruce http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1149435 Bruce Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:23:50 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1149435 In United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, the Supreme Court decided 6-2 that Wong Kim Ark was a citizen by right of his birth in he US under the 14th Amendment. Thus, he did not need to be naturalized; thus, he was a natural-born citizen. You can only become a citizen in two ways: by right of birth (natural-born) or by action of a Federal Court (naturalization). There is no third way. In addition, the Supreme Court, in a rare display of ideological unity, has made it very clear that they have no interest in defining a third way. In fact, along with the issue of members of Congress serving in offices for which they have voted for increases in salary (Hilary Clinton and many others) it's not entirely clear that the Supreme Court would ever exclude a citizen from being elected no matter where they were born. If Arnold Schwarzenegger ran for President and was elected, it's not clear, under rulings decided over a long period of time by justices of very broad ideological perspectives, who would have standing to bring a complaint. Right or wrong, that just seems to be the way the Court has been leaning for a long time and none of the nine has really been complaining about it. In United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, the Supreme Court decided 6-2 that Wong Kim Ark was a citizen by right of his birth in he US under the 14th Amendment. Thus, he did not need to be naturalized; thus, he was a natural-born citizen. You can only become a citizen in two ways: by right of birth (natural-born) or by action of a Federal Court (naturalization). There is no third way.

In addition, the Supreme Court, in a rare display of ideological unity, has made it very clear that they have no interest in defining a third way. In fact, along with the issue of members of Congress serving in offices for which they have voted for increases in salary (Hilary Clinton and many others) it’s not entirely clear that the Supreme Court would ever exclude a citizen from being elected no matter where they were born. If Arnold Schwarzenegger ran for President and was elected, it’s not clear, under rulings decided over a long period of time by justices of very broad ideological perspectives, who would have standing to bring a complaint. Right or wrong, that just seems to be the way the Court has been leaning for a long time and none of the nine has really been complaining about it.

]]> By: Susan http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1149387 Susan Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:41:09 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1149387 Why do people like Larry Johnson never run for POTUS??? Why do people like Larry Johnson never run for POTUS???

]]> By: Drawnlines Blog http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1149337 Drawnlines Blog Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:32:27 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1149337 Your proposals are downright dangerous. Jindal's speech may have been more self-promoting than I'd liked, but I thought he was much on point. Also, without even having to mention Obama's name, he illustrated why his ideas are fundamentally flawed. I thought it was alright, all in all. Your proposals are downright dangerous. Jindal’s speech may have been more self-promoting than I’d liked, but I thought he was much on point.

Also, without even having to mention Obama’s name, he illustrated why his ideas are fundamentally flawed. I thought it was alright, all in all.

]]> By: andrew191 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1149320 andrew191 Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:16:11 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1149320 If he does, they probably look like the mailman. If he does, they probably look like the mailman.

]]> By: Buzz Latte LaRue http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1149230 Buzz Latte LaRue Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:51:01 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1149230 Are you still part of the crowd that believes Obama IS a natural born citizen? Hurry along. The kool-aid truck is coming down your street. Are you still part of the crowd that believes Obama IS a natural born citizen?

Hurry along. The kool-aid truck is coming down your street.

]]> By: harper http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1149228 harper Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:47:34 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1149228 care to show the law that defines it that way? there is no requirement to be born from TWO parents. it;s not that way, stop repeating that nonsense. are you part of the crowd still accusing obama of being a foreigner? care to show the law that defines it that way? there is no requirement to be born from TWO parents. it;s not that way, stop repeating that nonsense. are you part of the crowd still accusing obama of being a foreigner?

]]> By: beachnan http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1149184 beachnan Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:09:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1149184 I agree tek!!!! In my humble opinion, Hillary is still head and shoulders above Sarah. I voted McCain/Palin, because I simply could not vote for the fraud Obama, but I believe Palin has to gain more experience to be on Hillary's level. I also agree with more of the ideals of the Democratic Party than the Republican Party, however, I will make my choice based on the individual, not the party. I agree tek!!!! In my humble opinion, Hillary is still head and shoulders above Sarah. I voted McCain/Palin, because I simply could not vote for the fraud Obama, but I believe Palin has to gain more experience to be on Hillary’s level. I also agree with more of the ideals of the Democratic Party than the Republican Party, however, I will make my choice based on the individual, not the party.

]]> By: Mutiny on the Mounds Bar http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1149169 Mutiny on the Mounds Bar Thu, 26 Feb 2009 03:28:33 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1149169 I'm stunned by how dumbed down our voters have become. I’m stunned by how dumbed down our voters have become.

]]> By: andrew191 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1149162 andrew191 Thu, 26 Feb 2009 03:15:24 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1149162 Where? Where? Where? Where?

]]> By: Mutiny on the Mounds Bar http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1149161 Mutiny on the Mounds Bar Thu, 26 Feb 2009 03:15:15 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1149161 It sounds like Bob doesn't have children. It sounds like Bob doesn’t have children.

]]> By: andrew191 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15428/what-the-republicans-should-have-said-and-more-open-thread/#comment-1149160 andrew191 Thu, 26 Feb 2009 03:12:09 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=15428#comment-1149160 Yep Bob, that's pretty much what the Nazis said about anyone that opposed them. Yep Bob, that’s pretty much what the Nazis said about anyone that opposed them.

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