Comments on: Whose Votes? (Wide Open Thread) [+ UPDATE] http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/ Fri, 25 May 2012 02:01:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: apishapa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-140120 apishapa Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:01:19 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-140120 What baffles me about this whole "let the popular vote" decide is that in order to do that, we would have to throw out all of the votes by REPUBLICANS and INDEPENDENTS in all of those primaries that allow them to vote for the DEMOCRATIC PATY candidate. At least the super delegates are <strong>Democrats</strong>. What I resent is Republicans voting to nominate my part's candidates. And I think they should allow Michigan and Florida 's delegates vote, because New Hampshire and Iowa also broke the rules by moving their primaries forward. They did that because they resented the idea that Nevada and South Carolina would have early primaries and for once diversity would play a factor in the race. So, if New Hampshire and Iowa get to have their delegates, so should Florida andd Michigan. It was uinfair for the DNC to allow Iowa to push them around, then get all tough with Florida. And I am pretty tired of hearing how Hillary campaigned in those states. Obama campaigned in Florida, not Hillary. What baffles me about this whole “let the popular vote” decide is that in order to do that, we would have to throw out all of the votes by REPUBLICANS and INDEPENDENTS in all of those primaries that allow them to vote for the DEMOCRATIC PATY candidate. At least the super delegates are Democrats.

What I resent is Republicans voting to nominate my part’s candidates. And I think they should allow Michigan and Florida ‘s delegates vote, because New Hampshire and Iowa also broke the rules by moving their primaries forward. They did that because they resented the idea that Nevada and South Carolina would have early primaries and for once diversity would play a factor in the race. So, if New Hampshire and Iowa get to have their delegates, so should Florida andd Michigan. It was uinfair for the DNC to allow Iowa to push them around, then get all tough with Florida. And I am pretty tired of hearing how Hillary campaigned in those states. Obama campaigned in Florida, not Hillary.

]]> By: CK http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-140027 CK Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:57:31 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-140027 "If you build it they will come." The membrane that separates fantasy from reality is especially thin around the intelligence services of the Bush people. “If you build it they will come.”
The membrane that separates fantasy from reality is especially thin around the intelligence services of the Bush people.

]]> By: CK http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-140023 CK Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:53:40 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-140023 SHort Answer: Yes. Long answer: Yes, we do. Longer answer: The promised monies will go into the pockets of the Kikwete administration people for the necessary Tanzanian infrastructure purchases of armored beamers, and the maintainence of the swiss banking infrastructure. SHort Answer: Yes.
Long answer: Yes, we do.
Longer answer: The promised monies will go into the pockets of the Kikwete administration people for the necessary Tanzanian infrastructure purchases of armored beamers, and the maintainence of the swiss banking infrastructure.

]]> By: Bill Keyes http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139938 Bill Keyes Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:35:03 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139938 I wonder if Larry has any comment on this story? CIA's ambitious post-9/11 spy plan crumbles http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-intel17feb17,0,3935942.story I wonder if Larry has any comment on this story?

CIA’s ambitious post-9/11 spy plan crumbles

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-intel17feb17,0,3935942.story

]]> By: Cee http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139790 Cee Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:41:24 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139790 Do we have a Zimbabwe currency printing press? Bush OKs $698 million in Tanzanian aid By Jon Ward February 17, 2008 DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA -- President Bush, in the midst of a warmly recieved visit here, today signed off on a $698 million aid package -- the latest and largest installment in an innovative program aimed at holding recipient countries accountable for the loans they recieve. The agreement, signed by Mr. Bush and Tanzanian President Jakaya Kikwete in front of the massive State House here in Tanzania’s capital, will go toward building infrastructure, clean water projects, and hydro power development. Do we have a Zimbabwe currency printing press?

Bush OKs $698 million in Tanzanian aid
By Jon Ward
February 17, 2008
DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA — President Bush, in the midst of a warmly recieved visit here, today signed off on a $698 million aid package — the latest and largest installment in an innovative program aimed at holding recipient countries accountable for the loans they recieve.

The agreement, signed by Mr. Bush and Tanzanian President Jakaya Kikwete in front of the massive State House here in Tanzania’s capital, will go toward building infrastructure, clean water projects, and hydro power development.

]]> By: Cee http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139755 Cee Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:41:30 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139755 Obamabots don’t comprehend the need for being diplomatic. North, Grow up. Hill was really diplomatic when she said Putin had no soul, right? "I could have told him — he was a KGB agent. By definition he doesn’t have a soul," Clinton joked. http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Hillary_Putin_doesnt_have_a_soul.html In response to a question pertaining to Senator Hillary Clinton's remark that former KGB officers had no soul, Russian President Vladimir Putin replied: "At a minimum, a head of state should have a head." http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=68504 Hillary is a hawkish fool. Obamabots don’t comprehend the need for being diplomatic.

North,

Grow up. Hill was really diplomatic when she said Putin had no soul, right?

“I could have told him — he was a KGB agent. By definition he doesn’t have a soul,” Clinton joked.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Hillary_Putin_doesnt_have_a_soul.html

In response to a question pertaining to Senator Hillary Clinton’s remark that former KGB officers had no soul, Russian President Vladimir Putin replied: “At a minimum, a head of state should have a head.”
http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=68504

Hillary is a hawkish fool.

]]> By: Mike Howell http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139744 Mike Howell Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:27:20 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139744 I never went to Kos before Larry Johnson recently referenced it and after what I saw there, never will again. Life is too short for crap like that. I never went to Kos before Larry Johnson recently referenced it and after what I saw there, never will again.

Life is too short for crap like that.

]]> By: CK http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139731 CK Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:53:50 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139731 Large empires believe that secession and subdivision is good for other countries. Lots of small nations with lots of little, but now international, conflicts between them does help to keep any big coalition from forming. So where there was once a Yugoslavia and it spoke with a voice and that voice was Tito's, now there are seven little nations of no consequence. Iraq will make 3 nice little nations, kurdistan to be devoured by Turkey and Iran eventually., Shiastan at the head of the gulf and Sunnitstan where all those unexplored oil blocks that Cheney desires so much happen to be located. Bolivia, where the US govt is encouraging the secession of the natural gas rich section from the other parts of Bolivia. You should have seen the original Mountbatten map for the partitioning of India. Would have ended up with about seventeen different countries where India is now. I wonder if China would be interested in helping the development of Aztlan. Large empires believe that secession and subdivision is good for other countries. Lots of small nations with lots of little, but now international, conflicts between them does help to keep any big coalition from forming. So where there was once a Yugoslavia and it spoke with a voice and that voice was Tito’s, now there are seven little nations of no consequence.
Iraq will make 3 nice little nations, kurdistan to be devoured by Turkey and Iran eventually., Shiastan at the head of the gulf and Sunnitstan where all those unexplored oil blocks that Cheney desires so much happen to be located.
Bolivia, where the US govt is encouraging the secession of the natural gas rich section from the other parts of Bolivia.
You should have seen the original Mountbatten map for the partitioning of India. Would have ended up with about seventeen different countries where India is now.
I wonder if China would be interested in helping the development of Aztlan.

]]> By: SusanUnPC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139728 SusanUnPC Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:42:47 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139728 Link away to DKos diaries/stories. But do try to link to the storyonly version (the permalink version) -- for those on dial-up, the huge number of comments can be very hard to load. Thanks! Link away to DKos diaries/stories. But do try to link to the storyonly version (the permalink version) — for those on dial-up, the huge number of comments can be very hard to load. Thanks!

]]> By: CK http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139724 CK Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:39:53 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139724 Can we apply this standard to Vermont? Can we apply this standard to Vermont?

]]> By: justsomeone http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139587 justsomeone Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:26:59 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139587 Reyes, you might want to brush up on "Operation Storm" during the Clinton yrs...a hellava lot of ethnic Serbs were ethnicly cleansed from the Krajina region of Croatia, Serbs who had lived there for many, many generations & it barely made the news. GWB has followed through on Clinton's iniative in the Balkans just as Clinton followed through on Bush the 41st NAFTA..lots of cooperation & dovetailing. Look at GWB & Condi tryin' to do an Oslo quickie on Israel et al. All the fussin' & fuedin' on the surface is mostly window dressing for the peanut gallery. You ask what is the goal? You call it a goal. I call it an agenda & suspect its alot broader than your theory of Caspian oil or lack thereof for Europe. Think big. & as for your comment of "better to go with Soros" WHY? Isn't he backing Obama. It's a crazy world. Reyes, you might want to brush up on “Operation Storm” during the Clinton yrs…a hellava lot of ethnic Serbs were ethnicly cleansed from the Krajina region of Croatia, Serbs who had lived there for many, many generations & it barely made the news. GWB has followed through on Clinton’s iniative in the Balkans just as Clinton followed through on Bush the 41st NAFTA..lots of cooperation & dovetailing. Look at GWB & Condi tryin’ to do an Oslo quickie on Israel et al. All the fussin’ & fuedin’ on the surface is mostly window dressing for the peanut gallery. You ask what is the goal? You call it a goal. I call it an agenda & suspect its alot broader than your theory of Caspian oil or lack thereof for Europe. Think big. & as for your comment of “better to go with Soros” WHY? Isn’t he backing Obama. It’s a crazy world.

]]> By: Alien http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139564 Alien Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:30:10 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139564 I have been to both Abhkazia & Sth Ossetia. They are not ethnically related to Georgians. After the dissolution of USSr these 2 former special districts were taken over by Georgia. NOT HAPPY. Anyhow Putin has stated the situations are similar. I have been to both Abhkazia & Sth Ossetia. They are not ethnically related to Georgians. After the dissolution of USSr these 2 former special districts were taken over by Georgia. NOT HAPPY. Anyhow Putin has stated the situations are similar.

]]> By: Daisy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139561 Daisy Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:29:09 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139561 she is a style of wonder and beauty. I guess a women can get out of jail and style look fabulous.i signed in the site blackcentury.com and some men were talking her and said she is attractive. she is a style of wonder and beauty. I guess a women can get out of jail and style look fabulous.i signed in the site blackcentury.com and some men were talking her and said she is attractive.

]]> By: Jesus Reyes http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139557 Jesus Reyes Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:27:50 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139557 I'm asking Hillary, but it has something to do with the geopolitical contest with Russia over the control and delivery of Caspian oil to Europe. I’m asking Hillary, but it has something to do with the geopolitical contest with Russia over the control and delivery of Caspian oil to Europe.

]]> By: justsomeone http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/1551/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139543 justsomeone Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:59:38 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/whose-votes-wide-open-thread/#comment-139543 Reyes, I think I know the history, what is the context? Reyes, I think I know the history, what is the context?

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