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		<title>By: Ignignokt</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150262</link>
		<dc:creator>Ignignokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...i will have a civilian force that is as well armed and as powerful as the military.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I must have missed the bit about Obama&#039;s private army.   

I &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; seem to recall something about letting the Bush tax cuts expire, lowering taxes for 95% of all Americans, repairing the nation&#039;s crumbling infrastructure, funding alternative energy development, providing financial assistance to students, restoring the public school system, extending health insurance to disadvantaged children, expanding rail transportation, etc.  I remember him saying equal pay for equal work would become law.  He also said something about closing Gitmo, setting a short time-table for pulling troops out of Iraq, and focusing anti-terror efforts on Afghanistan, as we should have done in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;i will have a civilian force that is as well armed and as powerful as the military.</p></blockquote>
<p>I must have missed the bit about Obama&#8217;s private army.   </p>
<p>I <em>do</em> seem to recall something about letting the Bush tax cuts expire, lowering taxes for 95% of all Americans, repairing the nation&#8217;s crumbling infrastructure, funding alternative energy development, providing financial assistance to students, restoring the public school system, extending health insurance to disadvantaged children, expanding rail transportation, etc.  I remember him saying equal pay for equal work would become law.  He also said something about closing Gitmo, setting a short time-table for pulling troops out of Iraq, and focusing anti-terror efforts on Afghanistan, as we should have done in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: foxyladi14</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150253</link>
		<dc:creator>foxyladi14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and keep fighting.we must take back our beloved country.
fire all those in washington and start over with some real americans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and keep fighting.we must take back our beloved country.<br />
fire all those in washington and start over with some real americans</p>
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		<title>By: b mathews</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150196</link>
		<dc:creator>b mathews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too bad most people werent listening to what obama was really saying all thru the primaries and election.  ie; i will have a civilian force that is as well armed and as powerful as the military. (hence millions to LaRaza and ACORN.. his civilian army?.. in the stimulus. payoff for helping him cheat to win the election?) in his book he says &quot;if the political winds shift in a ugly direction, i will stand with the Muslims&quot; hence his plan to overturn our right to bear arms.(leaving us unprotected) now he wants  the Fairness Doctrine to take away our right to free speech.  now i hear the dems want to change the amendment that only allows a president to serve 2 terms. what the hell is going on here and  where will this end? we need to stay vigilant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too bad most people werent listening to what obama was really saying all thru the primaries and election.  ie; i will have a civilian force that is as well armed and as powerful as the military. (hence millions to LaRaza and ACORN.. his civilian army?.. in the stimulus. payoff for helping him cheat to win the election?) in his book he says &#8220;if the political winds shift in a ugly direction, i will stand with the Muslims&#8221; hence his plan to overturn our right to bear arms.(leaving us unprotected) now he wants  the Fairness Doctrine to take away our right to free speech.  now i hear the dems want to change the amendment that only allows a president to serve 2 terms. what the hell is going on here and  where will this end? we need to stay vigilant.</p>
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		<title>By: lark</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150171</link>
		<dc:creator>lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without an apocalyptic ending the Fed gov or the Obama administration will never let go of a process that benefits them politically for one that would benefit us. 

But I believe you&#039;ve got it. And I agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without an apocalyptic ending the Fed gov or the Obama administration will never let go of a process that benefits them politically for one that would benefit us. </p>
<p>But I believe you&#8217;ve got it. And I agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: to77</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150160</link>
		<dc:creator>to77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;First of all, for every dollar of wealth, 1% owns $0.40 the next 19% owns $0.51 cents, and then the rest, 80% owns $0.09 — and for every tax dollar, 2% pay $0.40 and the rest pay $0.60 cents.&quot;

It&#039;s interesting how you did carry out your equation equally.  Here&#039;s the reality, the top 1% &quot;owns&quot; 40% of the wealth and they pay 40% of the taxes, the top 25% &quot;owns&quot; 90%  of  wealth and pays 87% of taxes  the top 50% of wage earners &quot;own&quot; 95% of the wealth and  pay 97% of all taxes. The lower 50% own 5% and pay 3%. 

Not the draconian difference you were hoping to portray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;First of all, for every dollar of wealth, 1% owns $0.40 the next 19% owns $0.51 cents, and then the rest, 80% owns $0.09 — and for every tax dollar, 2% pay $0.40 and the rest pay $0.60 cents.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting how you did carry out your equation equally.  Here&#8217;s the reality, the top 1% &#8220;owns&#8221; 40% of the wealth and they pay 40% of the taxes, the top 25% &#8220;owns&#8221; 90%  of  wealth and pays 87% of taxes  the top 50% of wage earners &#8220;own&#8221; 95% of the wealth and  pay 97% of all taxes. The lower 50% own 5% and pay 3%. </p>
<p>Not the draconian difference you were hoping to portray.</p>
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		<title>By: to77</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150154</link>
		<dc:creator>to77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First my response wasnt to you it was for r2d2 ridiculous breakdown of this percent, that percent blah, blah... that is what is irrelevant..

Second, I am not as apocalyptic about it as you, I think the answer is simple: cut spending about 20% and cut taxes on corporations in exchange for expansion and new hires. every $ spent on a new hire or infrastructure can be subtracted from taxes. if every dollar collected in corporate taxes was spent instead by the company to provide a new $35,000 job we would create instantly 1 million new jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First my response wasnt to you it was for r2d2 ridiculous breakdown of this percent, that percent blah, blah&#8230; that is what is irrelevant..</p>
<p>Second, I am not as apocalyptic about it as you, I think the answer is simple: cut spending about 20% and cut taxes on corporations in exchange for expansion and new hires. every $ spent on a new hire or infrastructure can be subtracted from taxes. if every dollar collected in corporate taxes was spent instead by the company to provide a new $35,000 job we would create instantly 1 million new jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150146</link>
		<dc:creator>cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, please explain &lt;em&gt;who&lt;/em&gt; the lower 15% rate has benefited and &lt;em&gt;in what way&lt;/em&gt;--leaving out hedge fund managers, who obviously enjoy pocketing more money even though it makes no sense.  

&lt;strong&gt;There&#039;s nothing &lt;em&gt;to&lt;/em&gt; understand there, other than the fact that some very wealthy people in the financial industries have been  getting preferential treatment from the government at the expense of all other taxpayers--including those who operate other types of businesses.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, please explain <em>who</em> the lower 15% rate has benefited and <em>in what way</em>&#8211;leaving out hedge fund managers, who obviously enjoy pocketing more money even though it makes no sense.  </p>
<p><strong>There&#8217;s nothing <em>to</em> understand there, other than the fact that some very wealthy people in the financial industries have been  getting preferential treatment from the government at the expense of all other taxpayers&#8211;including those who operate other types of businesses.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: lark</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150133</link>
		<dc:creator>lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens when administrations care only to see positive numbers in GDP, etc. A mantra brought by Regan and carried forward ever after. Government becomes no amoral but immoral, and abandons Christianity as the philosophical rule. The results are these so called &#039;recessionary cycles&#039; where so called &#039;corrections&#039; happen. Like you say, Bush took it up by believing the war in Iraq would have positive results in all fronts, but I knew it would not be that way only because Iraq is a completely different culture. Now, today per se we are enjoying a little bit of benefit from the war in that oil prices have dropped. But if Obama keeps taunting the oil business we could be crushed. I keep thinking that as unthinkable as it may be, the end game will have to be the institution of a Federal tyranny, a possible revolution and the break up of the union. 

In other words, either the Federal government quits, like you are asking, which is doubtful except once totally bankrupted, or IT TAKES US HOSTAGE and institutes a socialist state right after a prolonged period of nightly curfews and complete hijacking of individual rights. &lt;strong&gt;Those to me are the two options that project from what you said.   &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens when administrations care only to see positive numbers in GDP, etc. A mantra brought by Regan and carried forward ever after. Government becomes no amoral but immoral, and abandons Christianity as the philosophical rule. The results are these so called &#8216;recessionary cycles&#8217; where so called &#8216;corrections&#8217; happen. Like you say, Bush took it up by believing the war in Iraq would have positive results in all fronts, but I knew it would not be that way only because Iraq is a completely different culture. Now, today per se we are enjoying a little bit of benefit from the war in that oil prices have dropped. But if Obama keeps taunting the oil business we could be crushed. I keep thinking that as unthinkable as it may be, the end game will have to be the institution of a Federal tyranny, a possible revolution and the break up of the union. </p>
<p>In other words, either the Federal government quits, like you are asking, which is doubtful except once totally bankrupted, or IT TAKES US HOSTAGE and institutes a socialist state right after a prolonged period of nightly curfews and complete hijacking of individual rights. <strong>Those to me are the two options that project from what you said.   </strong></p>
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		<title>By: to77</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150125</link>
		<dc:creator>to77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s irrelevant. the point is you can&#039;t collect enough taxes from $250,000+ to get us out of the hole. I don&#039;t give a damn about the top 1-2% whatever, the issue is raising their taxes doesn&#039;t solve the problem. this is liberal class envy, blame game. the solution is government has to stop spending. Having the top tax rate at Clintonian levels garners you another $44 billion big deal.

Bush went on a federal domestic spending spree that is only matched by FDR and look where we are, how is upping the ante going to make things better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s irrelevant. the point is you can&#8217;t collect enough taxes from $250,000+ to get us out of the hole. I don&#8217;t give a damn about the top 1-2% whatever, the issue is raising their taxes doesn&#8217;t solve the problem. this is liberal class envy, blame game. the solution is government has to stop spending. Having the top tax rate at Clintonian levels garners you another $44 billion big deal.</p>
<p>Bush went on a federal domestic spending spree that is only matched by FDR and look where we are, how is upping the ante going to make things better?</p>
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		<title>By: andrew191</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150097</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew191</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the evidence that supports the tired and over used claim that Republicans are richer than Democrats? The members of the U.S. Congress actually demonstrate the opposite of that claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the evidence that supports the tired and over used claim that Republicans are richer than Democrats? The members of the U.S. Congress actually demonstrate the opposite of that claim.</p>
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		<title>By: LD</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150067</link>
		<dc:creator>LD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I understand it, the proposal is for a decrease for those in the 35% tax bracket and the deduction goes to 28%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understand it, the proposal is for a decrease for those in the 35% tax bracket and the deduction goes to 28%.</p>
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		<title>By: mountainaires</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150065</link>
		<dc:creator>mountainaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, wait just a minute! 

The Obama [Joe Cool] administration predicts 3.2% growth in 2010, but also &lt;strong&gt;10.3% unemployment in 2010? &lt;/strong&gt; 

How does this work, I wonder, since we&#039;ve got 7.6% unemployment as of January 2009 and a &lt;strong&gt;negative growth rate of 6.2% for the 4th quarter of 2008. &lt;/strong&gt;

Good Bloomberg article, h/t to Barry Ritholtz at The Big Picture. Must read. 


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&amp;refer=columnist_reilly&amp;sid=av_BTw3JLGOs#</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, wait just a minute! </p>
<p>The Obama [Joe Cool] administration predicts 3.2% growth in 2010, but also <strong>10.3% unemployment in 2010? </strong> </p>
<p>How does this work, I wonder, since we&#8217;ve got 7.6% unemployment as of January 2009 and a <strong>negative growth rate of 6.2% for the 4th quarter of 2008. </strong></p>
<p>Good Bloomberg article, h/t to Barry Ritholtz at The Big Picture. Must read. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&#038;refer=columnist_reilly&#038;sid=av_BTw3JLGOs#" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&#038;refer=columnist_reilly&#038;sid=av_BTw3JLGOs#</a></p>
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		<title>By: obamastolemyboyfriend</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150063</link>
		<dc:creator>obamastolemyboyfriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone give me a lowdown on the mortgage interest deduction decrease?  Is it decreased for all or a certain income or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone give me a lowdown on the mortgage interest deduction decrease?  Is it decreased for all or a certain income or what?</p>
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		<title>By: PamFlorida</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150061</link>
		<dc:creator>PamFlorida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What good is an education if corporations continue to offshore high paying jobs and bring in increasing numbers of H-B1 visa workers?</description>
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		<title>By: Sassy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/15686/ceteris-paribus/#comment-1150060</link>
		<dc:creator>Sassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess would be that raising taxes on small businesses will result in jobs lost, not jobs gained.
But what do I know?
If I were already struggling with regulation, shrinking pools of purchasers, and higher costs of shipping, etc., I would not be adding labor costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess would be that raising taxes on small businesses will result in jobs lost, not jobs gained.<br />
But what do I know?<br />
If I were already struggling with regulation, shrinking pools of purchasers, and higher costs of shipping, etc., I would not be adding labor costs.</p>
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