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The NeoCon Smear Machine Goes After Ambassador Freeman

If you dare to speak objectively and analytically about the Israeli/Palestinian relationship you might as well put a live electrical wire in your mouth. The latter is a safer bet. Word that Barack Obama has tabbed Ambassador Charles Freeman to head the National Intelligence Council has sparked a widespread assault on his character and reputation by the neo-con crowd.

Pat Lang posted this today on the matter.

He starts with this quote from Jon Chait’s piece in Saturday’s Washington Post:

Freeman belongs to the camp that’s the mortal enemy of the neoconservatives: the realists. Realist ideology pays no attention to moral differences between states. As far as realists are concerned, there’s no way to think about the way governments act except as the pursuit of self-interest. Realism has some useful insights. For instance, realists accurately predicted that Iraqis would respond to a U.S. invasion with less than unadulterated joy.

But realists are the mirror image of neoconservatives in that they are completely blind to the moral dimensions of international politics. Realists scoffed at Bill Clinton’s interventions in Bosnia and Kosovo, which halted mass slaughter. Realists tend not to abide the American alliance with Israel, which rests on shared values with a fellow imperfect democracy rather than on a cold analysis of America’s interests.

Taken to extremes, realism’s blindness to morality can lead it wildly astray. Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer, both staunch realists, wrote “The Israel Lobby,” a hyperbolic attack on Zionist political influence. The central error of their thesis was that, since America’s alliance with Israel does not advance American interests, it could be explained only by sinister lobbying influence. They seemed unable to grasp even the possibility that Americans, rightly or wrongly, have an affinity for a fellow democracy surrounded by hostile dictatorships. Consider, perhaps, if eunuchs tried to explain the way teenage boys act around girls. “

Pat offers this reaction:

“…if eunuchs tried to explain the way teenage boys act around girls.” This is an analogy to remember, an analogy by which to judge the author.

Freeman’s appointment has been under growing attack by people like Chait who attack anyone whom they think might hold balanced opinions with regard to the Arab/Israeli dispute. They seek to eliminate from public life all those whom they think are not completely in the control of “the lobby.” In fact, Freeman has a long record of support for a just solution to the Middle East situation, a solution that protects the long term interests and existence of Israel while enabling the creation of a national home for the Palestinians. Evidently that position is not one sided enough for Mr. Chait. The pathetic insertion of a private e-mail message concerning China is patently a “red herring” designed to obscure the fact that the only thing Chait is interested in is Israel.

Chait has it right concerning Charles Freeman’s forecasting in advance of the US intervention in Iraq. Freeman understood clearly that a prolonged occupation of Iraq by foreign forces would lead to fierce resistance by a population united in only one thing, a hatred of foreign domination.

Now that there is a new administration in Washington, it would be easy to forget that in the time of the previous government it was not easy to find people who had enough integrity to speak truth to power in an atmosphere dominated by concerted efforts at character assassination and exclusion of dissenting voices from the media. In that environment Charles Freeman was a pillar of strength, a voice that never faltered, an analyst whose judgments were consistently correct.

He is to be appointed head of the National Intelligence Council (NIC). This is a body of very senior analysts whose major task is to write the nation’s carefully crafted judgments regarding a wide variety of topics. These judgments are embodied in National Intelligence Estimates. (NIE) These estimates are the official truth of the US Government with regard to world realities. They are the basis for the debate on policy that every rational decision making process must follow. If these estimates are corrupted by desired policy outcomes or incompetence, then the policy that is informed by them will necessarily be flawed. “Garbage in, garbage out” is a truism borrowed from the information business. We saw that principle applied in the ’02 Iraq NIE. That document was a monument to the inevitable effect of political influence on analytic efforts and a gross incompetence in the process itself.

Charles Freeman is a man awesomely educated, of striking intellect, of vast experience and demonstrated integrity.

The business of the NIC is the description of reality. Feeman is undoubtedly a realist in both senses of the word. Who could possible be better for this job? pl

As I said at the outset of the Obama Administration, I will give him credit where credit is due and I will condemn stupidity. On the appointment of Freeman it is a smart, courageous move.

  • susaninbosque

    Larry, I applaud you more than I can possibly write about in your balanced assessment of Obama. It is so desperately necessary, always, but particularly at the moment. I for one, rely on your competence and your willingness to share it and display it. The above is deeply insightful and something we probably won’t see anywhere else.

    Once again, Thank you.

  • Andy

    Chas Freeman is a bigot and it is not the “just” the neocons going after him.
    He is an ideologue and a bad one.

  • HARP

    Larry….Please confirm if this a fact or not:

    Beijing, China — Sources at the United States Embassy in Beijing China have just CONFIRMED to me that the United States of America has tendered to China a written agreement which grants to the People’s Republic of China, an option to exercise Eminent Domain within the USA, as collateral for China’s continued purchase of US Treasury Notes and existing US Currency reserves!

    The written agreement was brought to Beijing by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and was formalized and agreed-to during her recent trip to China.

    This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take — inside the USA — land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities – to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government.

    Put simply, the feds have now actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to “take” all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt.

    • Peggy Sue

      I hope to hell this is just a wild rumor. Because if not? People are angry now. But something like this will have people take to the God damn streets.

      Tell me it ain’t so, Joe.

      BTW, the hate the idea of “eminent domain” in any quarter–local, state, Federal. But international??? Please.

      • Elizabeth

        http: //www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601009&sid=a_dsDz145J_A

        It is true apparently that China is looking for guarantees on the Treasuries not devaluing precipitously. But what would happen if they did stop buying ? The dollar would sink, which, for one thing, would be very bad for their exports…

        • Ferd Berfle

          Which is MUCH different from Eminent Domain.

    • NomNomNom

      It’s all over the internet but it does not have a source. It’s also not on any of the main chinese news blogs.

    • catherine

      No way! Do you think Hillary or any other real American in our government would agree to this??

      We would sooner go to war than give up our sovereignty. This has to be one of those crazy internet rumors.

    • cynic

      That must explain the Chinese flag I saw flying over the local Wal-Mart earlier this afternoon.

      I suspected years ago that some incideous international conspiracy was unfolding, when I noticed that Wal-Marts had begun putting their Entrance doors on the left and their Exit doors on the right.

      • Patience

        LOL

      • NoBamaNoWay

        yeah, what’s up with that? i think our wal-mart gave that up; now everybody just goes through whichever door they want to.

      • JozefAL

        Not sure where you live, but the local Wal-Mart Super Centers don’t do it like that. With ours, depending on where you’re looking from, the Entrance is on the right and the Exit is on the left. That is how it appears from the OUTSIDE. If you’re looking from the inside, it’s reversed. Of course, it makes little real difference since both sets (yes, we have TWO sets of doors at our WMSCs) have interior and exterior motion sensors which will open whichever door you’re approaching.

    • Ferd Berfle

      It is an urban legend and nothing more.

      • olivia1998

        This is no urban legend. It was reported on Bloomberg News.

    • TeakwoodKite

      CIFIUS

  • olivia1998

    This is unbelievable even for Obama. As far as Hillary I’ve had my concerns since she followed him blindly. It would be like him to get her to bid his dirty work. I always felt he would blame her if something went wrong.
    We know there isn’t enough rich folks in the USA to cover our debts. How do you think were going to pay for it?

  • TeakwoodKite

    What is a “Bonus Army” and a “goddess of democracy?

  • http://noliinsipientiuminiuriaspati.blogspot.com/ adagioforstrings

    From the thread header article:

    Realist ideology pays no attention to moral differences between states.

    Why is this a good thing?

  • Doc99

    Sorry, Larry. You’re on the wrong side of this one. As a previous poster put it – it’s not just the “neocons.”

    New Chairman of the National Council of Intelligence:

    It’s a fellow named Chas. Freeman who, among other things, is the former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia, and the president of a Saudi government-funded “public relations” organization, the Middle East Policy Council. Surely, the “no blood for oil crowd” is outraged by the appointment of someone with close ties to the Saudis to such a sensitive position?

    Then there’s this, an email Freeman wrote a few years back, uncovered by Michael Goldfarb of the Weekly Standard, that argues that the Chinese acted with “ill-conceived restraint” before massacring unarmed demonstrators in Tiananmen Square. The only thing the Chinese murderers were guilty of was “overly cautious behavior.” You have to read the whole thing to believe it [perhaps not coincidentally, Freeman also co-chairs the U.S.-China Policy Foundation, which agitates for closer U.S.-China ties]:

    I will leave it to others to address the main thrust of your reflection on Eric’s remarks. But I want to take issue with what I assume, perhaps incorrectly, to be yoiur citation of the conventional wisdom about the 6/4 [or Tiananmen] incident. I find the dominant view in China about this very plausible, i.e. that the truly unforgivable mistake of the Chinese authorities was the failure to intervene on a timely basis to nip the demonstrations in the bud, rather than — as would have been both wise and efficacious — to intervene with force when all other measures had failed to restore domestic tranquility to Beijing and other major urban centers in China. In this optic, the Politburo’s response to the mob scene at “Tian’anmen” stands as a monument to overly cautious behavior on the part of the leadership, not as an example of rash action.

    For myself, I side on this — if not on numerous other issues — with Gen. Douglas MacArthur. I do not believe it is acceptable for any country to allow the heart of its national capital to be occupied by dissidents intent on disrupting the normal functions of government, however appealing to foreigners their propaganda may be. Such folk, whether they represent a veterans’ “Bonus Army” or a “student uprising” on behalf of “the goddess of democracy” should expect to be displaced with despatch from the ground they occupy. I cannot conceive of any American government behaving with the ill-conceived restraint that the Zhao Ziyang administration did in China, allowing students to occupy zones that are the equivalent of the Washington National Mall and Times Square, combined. while shutting down much of the Chinese government’s normal operations. I thus share the hope of the majority in China that no Chinese government will repeat the mistakes of Zhao Ziyang’s dilatory tactics of appeasement in dealing with domestic protesters in China.

    I await the brickbats of those who insist on a politically correct — i.e. non Burkean conservative — view.

    Surely, Obamaphiles who have been pushing for years to encourage U.S. policy toward China to focus more on human rights are up in arms?

    In fact, while I’m sure such people do exist, a quick survey of blogs to the left of The New Republic shows that those who have chosen to comment are expressing contentment glee over Freeman’s appointment. Why, because he is a “realist” about Israel, a polite way of saying he’s expressed a fair amount of hostility both to Israel and its American supporters. Here’s The Nation, TPM Cafe’s M.J. Rosenberg, and Matthew Yglesias. And these are the folks that claim that Israel-related matters distort the neoconservatives’ perspective on world events! In fairness, other liberal blogs are maintaining a studious, perhaps embarrassed, silence. It’s entirely possible that some bloggers are mortified by Freeman, but are not prepared to “undermine” Obama and side with his “neoconservative enemies.”

    UPDATE: Here’s Stephen Walt, of “The Israel Lobby” coauthorship fame, defending Freeman from his detractors. And here, in its entirety, is how Walt explains why it’s okay for Obama to appoint an apologist for the Saudi and Chinese dictatorships, who until the day of his appointment was on the payroll of the former, to a very sensitive intelligence position: [sound of crickets chirping].

    Apparently, no matter how otherwise appalling Freeman’s appointment may be, the fact that he has acquired many of the same pro-Israel enemies as Walt (deservedly) has acquired serves as a sufficient defense. But of course, according to Walt, it is Freeman’s critics who are “obsessed” with “their own narrow-minded vision of U.S. Middle East policy.” Given that Walt is apparently unwilling to even address Freeman’s dubious ties to and defenses of China and Saudi Arabia, the schoolyard taunt “it takes one to know one” comes to mind. But that’s unfair to Freeman’s critics, who have, in fact, focused attention not just on Freeman’s hostility to Israel, but on his willingness to serve as the president of a propaganda outfit funded by a dictatorial foreign power, and his grotesque interpretation of the events in China in 1989, whereas Walt focuses his attention only on Israel-related matters, and even then fails to offer a substantive defense of specific criticisms beyond “the enemy of my enemies is my friend”

    FURTHER UPDATE: Eric Trager on Walt:

    How can Walt — who has spent the past three years bloviating on the supposed influence of pro-Israel groups on U.S. foreign policy — defend the administration for appointing an outright Saudi client to chair the all-important NIC? Why does he bristle when “pro-Israel pundits” merely speak out on foreign policy, but has no problem empowering a man whose income came via Riyadh to determine the very intelligence that makes it into top policymakers’ hands?

    Of course, I don’t expect an answer from Walt. Conspiracy theorists aren’t known for applying their supposed principles consistently.

    http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_03_01-2009_03_07.shtml#1235906972

    Besides, Larry, weren’t the “neocons” during the Bush years in the Saudis’ hip pockets because of that oil thing?

    • JulieD

      All I have to do is see pics of women forced to “cover up” from head to toe and I’m done liking that country. And men from the US defending this crap?!

      POLYGAMY? SLAVERY? RAPE? HONOR KILLINGS? NO EDUCATION FOR FEMALES? Yeah, who could prefer Israel to all of that tribal/Sharia Law stuff?!

      I’m disgusted that some folks find it fine and dandy to treat governments that treat women like chattel the same as those that don’t.

      Despite all of Rev. Wrong’s/PEBO’s blathering about slavery, when it comes to women they just don’t care.

      Brothers could kill brothers to free slaves in the US, but in the MidEast…he’ll side with … help me out what did BO say in his book…?

      FREEMAN maybe/FREE WOMEN – not even close.

      • Strawberry

        Sooooo, you can’t stand seeing women having to cover their heads, rape, honour killings, no education for women but you see no problem with those very same women getting blown to bloody bits along with their babies by a what YOU consider to be a more civilized country. Cool.

        • Andy

          Strawberry: be careful here. The women and babies “blown to bloody bits” are those in buses and streets and cafes blown by the Hamas and Hezbollah bombs and missiles. This very same cowards and assassins USE THEIR own people as human shields to protect themselves. That is what they do day in and day out. I’ve been Israel many times for long periods, in bad periods. Ready to run to the shelter; avoiding malls and never eating in restaurants and when rarely only if you could sit outside (why? because if a bomb doesn’t kill you the expansion wave destroys your organs without a scratch and you die without even
          You need to live there to know what it is.

          I hate war with all my might. One innocent human life lost is a very painful tragedy. But be careful with your thinking here. If you really want to do an objective analysis then you need to see and discuss BOTH sides of the issue. Not just one.

          Trivia: what would the US do if say, Mexico is in a civil war and a group –from Chiapas maybe? — decides it wants Baja California back and maybe parts of Mexico (for argument sake) and starts sending suicide bombers into the US and missiles accross its borders? Or suppose it is Chavez & Castro with some new Russian toys. How long, how many
          would the US take?

          http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24866318-7583,00.html

      • ritamary

        Saudi women are educated. They have to attend all-female schools and universities but they are educated. It is the Taliban that are opposed to educating women, not the Saudis.

        • JulieD

          Saudi women need permission from their husbands or fathers to work, travel, study or even receive health care. They cannot drive.

          The ordeal of the “Qatif girl” is a horrifying reminder of the insecurity and injustice of women’s lives in Saudi Arabia. In 2006, the young woman was gang-raped and later was nearly victimized again when the religious-dominated justice system sentenced her to 200 lashes for being alone in a car with a man to whom she was not married. She was only spared after King Abdullah heeded international protests and pardoned her.

          The country still has the lowest female employment level in the world. Unesco figures show that women make up 58% of the total Saudi student population, but only 16% of the workforce.

          Segregation and the state policy of male guardianship mean women can only work in all-female environments, normally schools and hospitals. Women can lose their jobs if a male guardian informs the employer he wishes her to leave.

  • Patience

    I have a hard time sorting out my thoughts about the Israeli/Arab conflict. First of all, I don’t subscribe to the notion that Israel has a God-given right to the land. On the other hand, it was within the discretion of Great Britain to hand over its protectorate to them, even if under duress after WWII, since it was among England’s “spoils” of WWI.

    I wish the issue of Zionist settlements could be resolved and put to rest. But the fact of Israel’s sovereignty being constantly threatened since its very inception makes me understand some of the hard-line tactics it’s taken over the decades, while some others have alienated me. At times Israel can be like the asshole relative who breaks a family’s heart.

    Conventional wisdom says Arabs hate the US because of our alliance with Israel and I don’t doubt it. But given how repressive Islamic culture can be, just in the case of women for instance, I wonder if Islamic fundamentalists (at least) wouldn’t hate us anyway because of our cultural differences? We seem to clash over more than just Israel.

    One quote I read via the link Andy provided above concerns me about Charles Freeman though:

    “It is widely charged in the United States that Saudi Arabian education teaches hateful and evil things. I do not think that is the case.”

    This is something I came to understand and believe after 9/11 since the identities of so many of the terrorists responsible for the attack turned out to be Saudis.

    I’d like to know the truth of this point.

    • NoBamaNoWay

      you raise some good points. i think that if israel was wiped off the map tomorrow, the arab world would still hate us and still be human rights-denying theocracies.

      btw, i think that many aspects of arab education teach hate towards israel and america from a very early age. that fact that Freeman said that he doubts this is worrisome indeed.

  • http://logisticsmonster.com/ Diamond Tiger

    Larry? did you really write this?

    • blogforce one

      Looks that way 2 me DT. P.S. I like your site!

  • blogforce one

    as long as you don’t have a problem with killing ” infidels and apostates” being reccommended behavior taught in first grade onward. also the teaching that all other religions other than Wahabbi – Sunni islam is against Allah and those who practice any other religion MUST convert or be slain… Freeman has no problem with it… Why should Obama? OT. I am A W.A.S.P who supports Israels right to exist and who has many Arab friends..

  • blogforce one

    Larry, I have enjoyed your site for some time now and have learned much but this recent heavy anti Israel anti IDF position you have taken without equal vitriol for Hamas- Iran has turned me off … I can’t Imgine you having any Jewish fans left… do you care? and your other writers…. How do they feel about this? Just asking…

    • Andy

      me too blogforce one.

    • SFIndie

      This Jewish reader finds it difficult to support Larry any more. I don’t visit NQ much these days.

    • http://NoQuarterUSA.net Larry Johnson

      If criticizing Israeli policies that are stupid and counterproductive, such as invading Gaza and accomplishing nothing of significant military importance, makes me anti-Jewish than I have nothing to say to you other than that you are the bigot. If being Jewish is the same as being pro-Israeli than I suggest you take up that issue with the orthodox Jews who don’t accept Israel as a legitimate state.

      I don’t put up this site to be “popular.” I present ideas. You are free to agree or disagree. I’m not going to pander to any particular group, Israeli or Palestinian.

      My own opinion is that Israel is a bully and has stained the very principles it was founded on.

      • termo

        I looked at Mr. Lang’s website and cannot find anything but anti-Israel posts. So his opinion us clearly jaded. I also looked at past posts of yours on the issue of Gaza, since you brought that up, and it reflects the same sentiments of Mr. Lang – including admonishing an Israeli who commented – which also does not make you exactly a fair source.

        I have not read any positive appraisals of Freeman. Do you have any other sources that are credible and support Mr. Freeman?

  • Doc99

    Then there’s this, an email Freeman wrote a few years back, uncovered by Michael Goldfarb of the Weekly Standard, that argues that the Chinese acted with “ill-conceived restraint” before massacring unarmed demonstrators in Tiananmen Square. The only thing the Chinese murderers were guilty of was “overly cautious behavior.” You have to read the whole thing to believe it [perhaps not coincidentally, Freeman also co-chairs the U.S.-China Policy Foundation, which agitates for closer U.S.-China ties] …

    http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_03_01-2009_03_07.shtml#1235906972

    Hey Larry, at least Mr. Freeman paid his taxes, right?

    • Andy

      Here is the full quote by Chad Freeman…

      “[T]he truly unforgivable mistake of the Chinese authorities was the failure to intervene on a timely basis to nip the demonstrations in the bud, rather than — as would have been both wise and efficacious — to intervene with force when all other measures had failed to restore domestic tranquility to Beijing and other major urban centers in China. In this optic, the Politburo’s response to the mob scene at ‘Tian’anmen’ stands as a monument to overly cautious behavior on the part of the leadership, not as an example of rash action. . . .

      Unforgivable he said and thought that.

  • TheWinterSolstice

    Thank you for starting a thread that would make Pat Buchanan moist with joy.

    I personally will enjoy the coming few years: over 75% of Jews always vote Democrat and 80% voted for Obama. It will be interesting to see how much time it will take them to realize that the worst enemies of Israel in the US are liberals, lefties, Berkeley & NYU grads, Chomsky & Zinn readers, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, the haters at CNN & NPR & NYTimes, etc.

    It will be a pleasure to see how Obama, indoctrinated by the anti-semite Chicago preachers, will bleed and crush Israel piece by piece. It’ll be nice to see how the liberal Jews in the US will react while watching their darling liberal Obama destroying their one piece of safe land. They voted for him so that he makes their Bolshevik dreams come true, he will destroy their land in return. It will be nice to see.

    I have been reading this site for quite a while now. It is so nice to see how you wrap your hatred towards the existence of Israel in all kinds of sophisticated pseudo-intellectual talk. That’s a nice effort, but don’t bother. Anyone can see the blind hatred seething underneath. Congrats on joining the growing chorus of Israel and Judaism bashers. How progressive and sophisticated of you.

    But then again, Israel has brought this on itself: you are the punishment of Israel and Jews for their degeneration into idolatry, self-hatred (see Waltz With Bashir) and their inevitable destruction.

    You can take the Jews out of Egypt, but you can never take the idolatry out of the Jews. They just keep going to those high places to worship idols, whether it is in the form of abortion, or gay marriage, or socialism, or bolshevism or whatever “ism” that is in fashion. They will reap what they sowed, and the funny thing is that the people that will destroy them, are the people they pledged unfaltering allegiance to: the left wing liberal virus.

    Don’t worry, just have patience, and you will see Israel destroyed and Jews in the US carried to camps by members of the Nation of Islam. It will come. Feel free to lick your lips in anticipation, because it will happen. And you will be able to rejoice.

    • Strawberry

      I’m sorry but your argument doesn’t hold water. It’s the same one Bushbots used against anyone who disagreed with the Iraq war. We were unAmerican. Obamabots call us racists because we disagree with his policies…and you claim we want to see Israel destroyed because we disagree with their foreign policy. Sorry. You are wrong. But you’re sure in great company.

      • TheWinterSolstice

        Dear Strawberry,

        Israel’s foreign policies should be such that they defend Israel’s existence. Sadly Itzhak Rabin bamboozled the Israelis into believing that “Land For Peace” would work. After 15 years or so the Israelis have awakened and remembered what they always knew – that Muslims want to destroy the state of Israel, period.

        Also, I’m not calling you *anything*. I am a faithful Christian and it is not in me to dislike you for your opinions. I simply disagree with the ignorance and lack of morality behind the ideas expressed in this article, and the deep hatred of Jews and Israel cleverly concealed in it. Arab terrorists will never be on equal footing with Israeli citizens, because they don’t deserve to. Arabs will never be on equal footing with Israelis, because they don’t deserve to. Islam will never be on equal footing with any religion, because it is a para-militaristic tribal movement, and nothing more.

        A quote from Mr. Benjamin Netanyahu: “If Arabs lay down their weapons, there will be peace. If Israelis lay down their weapons, they will be destroyed.”

        Arabs chop the heads of women, and use children as human shields. They have been tribal savages for centuries. Don’t blame Israelis for that.

        Israelis are just people who lost their nerve, because like Jews in the US, they have lost their faith. What they should do is vanquish their bloodthirsty enemies once and for all.

        I hope that my polite answer will keep us from escalating this argument. Free yourself: you can just say “I hate Jews, I hate Israel” without going into complex machinations. Your views are yours, and whether I agree with you or not, I respect the right you have to an opinion. On any day that’s more than what Joy Behar (a vile and godless Jewess) would give you.

      • Seattle Moss

        Straw
        Question…
        Do you ever change your mind based on the conditions in the present. I was against the Iraq war and even was a Dean supporter.My brother used to call me unpatriotic. I stand by my original opposition because it has led to the Obama movement and the retreat and defeat mentality that we are seeing in America.
        Today as you know I support the Iraq war based on the success that is being established plus the strategic significance our presence represents for preventing future resource wars.
        My position on Iraq today is based on the pragmatic view that we are there now and conditions and threats have changed since my original opposition.
        In fact I believe now that we are on the precipice of major regional resource and religious wars which could potentially kill millions.
        The infrastructure we have built in military assures that we will dictate the terms of these wars in the US our allies favor.
        Understand that many have died, but many more may perish if we turn our backs on Iraq or the region at large.

    • ritamary

      Your accusations are quite bizarre. Obama’s chief of staff hold dual US/Israeli citizenship. Rahm Emmanuel’s father was a member of the Irgun.

      And also there is a strong peace movement in Israel. Why are we never allowed to hear one word from that peace movement here in the United States?

      • TheWinterSolstice

        Dear ritamary,

        These are my opinions, not accusations. I look at US Jews and see fallen, godless people who are instrumental in the destruction of their one and only safe haven, and all to feed their desire for a left-wing utopia.

        It is a fact that half of the communists in the US were Jews and that half or more of professors in US colleges preaching Chomsky and Zinn and socialism and Bolshevism are Jews. They are fallen, corrupt and self destructive people.

        As to Mr. Rehem Emanuel, he is very friendly with the extreme left wing in Israel, don’t worry.

        I also dislike this whole notion of Israelis holding a dual citizenship. You are either a US citizen and pledge allegiance to the flag, or you pledge allegiance to the flag of your own country. I really don’t support this dual citizenship thing.

        The peace movement in Israel, you hear of them all the time: [1] they control the media in Israel (TV, newspapers, entertainment), [2] they speak on TV shows in the US, [3] they fill all time-slots available on NPR, [4] they have their own PAC in Washington, [5] they speak through the left-wing Jews in the US, through TV, newspapers and entertainment.

        The peace movement in Israel wants to hand over the country to the Arabs, assuming that the Arabs will give them peace. They are a sick and minor group who gets to be heard excessively because they control the media.

        Reminds you of anything? Well, exactly the same happens in the US: the media is in the hands of people that despise this country and would like to see it destroyed.

        Jewish liberals have infected the American academia and now we have self hating American liberals.

        My point is this: Jews elected Obama. He will destroy their one hope, their one safe place on earth. That was my point. Time will tell if this was a “bizarre” statement…

        Best Regards.